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::Well, its not my problem if you are incapable or unwilling to understand the "truth" in this situation. And I do not blame you for it as you for (try not to find this offensive, as don't mean it that way), a non-Sri Lankan you may not be able to grasp the ground reality which is very much different from the "prefect" environment of WP. If you were to read from what you may call an RS, you would see how schools are represent (not listed) comparatively in context rather than in individual articles out of contex ] (]) 04:34, 30 September 2012 (UTC) | ::Well, its not my problem if you are incapable or unwilling to understand the "truth" in this situation. And I do not blame you for it as you for (try not to find this offensive, as don't mean it that way), a non-Sri Lankan you may not be able to grasp the ground reality which is very much different from the "prefect" environment of WP. If you were to read from what you may call an RS, you would see how schools are represent (not listed) comparatively in context rather than in individual articles out of contex ] (]) 04:34, 30 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::Sorry, I may have miswritten above. My real point is that truth has absoluely nothign to do with Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages isn't here to decide the "right" answer, about anything. We are hear to report on reliable sources. That is the beginning, middle, and end of Misplaced Pages. And the fact that you don't agree with that makes me a bit sorry that I've been inherently defending your position on these articles. The article you linked to doesn't work; could you check the url again? I'll be happy to read it, but I'm growing very worried. You may want to respond to the ANI, as well. ] (]) 04:51, 30 September 2012 (UTC) | :::Sorry, I may have miswritten above. My real point is that truth has absoluely nothign to do with Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages isn't here to decide the "right" answer, about anything. We are hear to report on reliable sources. That is the beginning, middle, and end of Misplaced Pages. And the fact that you don't agree with that makes me a bit sorry that I've been inherently defending your position on these articles. The article you linked to doesn't work; could you check the url again? I'll be happy to read it, but I'm growing very worried. You may want to respond to the ANI, as well. ] (]) 04:51, 30 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
::: I am sorry, perhaps what I trying to say here maybe coming out wrong. I have already replayed to ANI based on the a replay I made to Xe2oner in the talk page of Royal College, Colombo. It funny how all these other articles come and end up here. There I have explain exactly why we can not rely on the RS on these topics. Pls try these urls , . Note that the word Rajakeeya is Sinhala for Royal and that is the word used to refer to Wayamba Rajakeeya PV, Kurunegala (]), Rajakeeya V, Horana (]), Rajakeeya MMV, New Town Polonnaruwa (]). Here V stands for Vidyalaya (College), P for Prathmica (elementary) and MMV for Madya Maha Vidyalaya (Central College).] (]) 05:49, 30 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Pal Kshatriya Other Clan Names (Titles)
Please see my reply on User:Qwyrxian/Pal-kshatriya and respond accordingly. --Jalaj Singh 14:33, 18 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jalajsinghpal (talk • contribs)
- I added a comment now. Sorry for the delay. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Deletion of the "Anita Bose Pfaff" article
As I write on the talk page of the article I really don't agree with the deletion proposal of the "Anita Bose Pfaff" article proposed from you. There are many reason for not deleting this article. One of the major reason isn't that Anita is the daughter of one of the most prominent political figures in the history of modern India or that she has an important academic background. The main reason is that she has from some time, in spite of herself, at the center of a major media phenomenon. Infact there is a strong dispute between those who argue that she is the daughter of Subash Chandra Bose and a minorance who argue that she isn't. (See f.e.: World believes Netaji was married, but not his party) but also: , , , , ... Furthermore some traditional hindu followers of Netaji simply don't want to accept the fact that he had a non-indian wife outside India and so on. In conclusion I strongly belive that this is definitely an article to expand, but certainly not to delete being at the center of a major international media case.--Cornelius383 (talk) 17:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- But why is Anita PFaff herself notable? I'm not asking why Subash Chandra Bose is notable--in order for Pfaff to have her own article, she must be independently notable, not just interesting because of her father. If she is only important to people in connection to the relationship of her mother and father, then she should simply be discussed in his article. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:14, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- You didn't understand my point of view. I have already explained above why this article should not be deleted. And the reason is not the one you cited here. Sorry if I repeat it again: "One of the major reason isn't that Anita is the daughter of one of the most prominent political figures in the history of modern India or that she has an important academic background. The main reason is that she has from some time, in spite of herself, at the center of a major international mediatic phenomenon" as you can easily see if you thake a look at the above mentioned (and many others that you can easily find) links. Anita is a public figure now much famous in India. And that alone would be a good reason to appear in a WP's article. Thake a look f.e. at this important historical documentary--Cornelius383 (talk) 14:17, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Regarding afd
Sorry Sir, I didn't mean that. I also told that he can improve the article/s.Even I don't have any bias against any article. Now, I have removed that message and will not do that again. Seek your pardon. Thank you for your kind advise. --- Bharathiya (talk) 04:17, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- It's no problem--lots of people don't know about the canvassing rule, and it's not one that comes up that often. Misplaced Pages has a long learning curve, so as long as you know now, everything is great. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Re: Jagannath Temple, Puri
I am a bit confused. What was unclear? Since further details of early western opinion on Jagannath is explained in the article Juggernaut I did not elaborate it again. As for the part of it being claimed Jesus had visited Puri, the same is mentioned on the Misplaced Pages page on the gospel of Aquarians. Is the gospel and the cult mainstream enough to merit the number of wikipedia articles on the subject that exist? But not mainstream enough to use as a reference in another article?. Maybe clarifying that New age believers of the Aquarian Gospels believe Jesus visited Puri may be better than deleting the entire thing together? Looking forward to your thoughts on the subject
sids 06:16, 21 September 2012 (UTC)User talk:Sidsahu
- Hmmm...well, after looking at it more carefully and Juggernaut, it does look like that information should be included somewhere. However, it's not really "influences on the west", as much as it is the source of a word's etymology. It would be better if we could get a source for that; I know it's on the Juggernaut page, but it's not sourced there. The second part is more a problem of WP:UNDUE; that is, the Aquarian Gospels are a pretty minor religion, not one with a significant connection to the subject of the temple. It certainly is inaccurate to call the temple or the Aquarian Gospels as influence on Christianity, as the group is not accepted as a Christian religion by other denominations. I'm not sure it's really important enough to go in at all, but, if it does, it needs to go somewhere else in the article, and we definitely need a secondary source that talks about the group (because their internal religious document isn't a reliable source, and it also doesn't demonstrate any importance to the group). Qwyrxian (talk) 10:38, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Codex
Greetings, User Qwyrxian!
I received your message. Thank you. I responded on the talk page for the Codex, as my response was intended for you as well as Vitaminman. Please have a look, and advise me on the appropriate course of action? --FeralOink (talk) 06:44, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Madhu Kora
The actual spelling of his name is Madhu Kora. He is an member of Indian Parliament from Singhbhum constituency. So I am giving you the most imp. ref - Election Commission of India, where a person files his name in correct spellings - See link page 17 pdf and serial no 521 http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/archiveofge2009/Stats/VOLI/11_ListOfSuccessfulCandidate.pdf and see the MOST IMPORTANT LINK - THE OFFICIAL WEB SITE OF 'GOVERNMENT OF INDIA' PROFILE PAGE OF MADHU KORA - http://india.gov.in/govt/loksabhampbiodata.php?mpcode=4328. I had earlier also requested to get your facts clear before writing a msg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckydhaliwal (talk • contribs) 10:49, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Then why do the other sources refer to hm as Madhu Koda? I've moved the article back. It is time to start a discussion on the article talk page. Qwyrxian (talk) 11:49, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
In India it is a common practice to use two spellings since the names are actually in hindi. Kora can also be wwitten as Koda. I will give you an example Gurdas Maan is a famous punjabi singer and his name is written as 1. Gurdas Maan - http://www.gurdasmaan.com/ - this his official web site and also as 2. Gurdas Mann - on itunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/gurdas-mann/id18476230 you can see in itunes both spellings.
Secondly you spoiled the article without reading it and all the refernces. I will tell how -
1.However, only a tiny fraction of the Rs 4000 crores (USD 800 mn) graft money allegedly amassed by him has been recovered - This line has no citation but you reverted it.
2.Madhu Koda was born in Patratu - he was actually born in Vill. Gua ref- http://india.gov.in/govt/loksabhampbiodata.php?mpcode=4328
3.Koda is married to Geeta, who contested the Jagannathpur assembly seat on a Jharkhand Navnirman Morcha ticket - his wife won on JBSP Jai Bharat Samanta Party -ref see Serial No 54 page 8 and 9 box of pdf http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/StatisticalReports/AE2009/Stats_JH_Oct2009.pdf - It is official web site of Election commission of india.
And so on it is full of mistakes and I corrected all but you are reverting it to wrong. You are misusing your adm power. Now the responsibility lies on you to verify to your satisfaction and correct each and every mistake in the topic as I have tried it twice but you dont allow. You say that I dont edit correctly and change valid info to invalid. But the actual fact is that you have have reverted everything again to wrong. You should prove and show me just a single line which I have edited and is wrong and not supported by references. Just tell me where I am wrong in editing and I will prove you with facts that every line written by me is correct and infact the article now is incorrect as I have given you three examples above and there are many more mistakes.
If you doubt about spelling in name you should check it but I fail to understand why you revert the edits in the article also which are well backed by references — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckydhaliwal (talk • contribs) 14:09, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- I did it that way because there was no easy way to separate out the changes you'd made, and you didn't seem willing to do it yourself. I've gone ahead and re-added your refs and changes, and then went back and changed the name by hand. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:56, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
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A message for you on talk page of Ram Prasad Bismil
Mr. Qwyxian! I am giving you two important links of worldcat organisation from where you can judge whether the books of which I had given the reference hereinabove is a reliable source or not.
- http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=au%3AKrant%2C+Madan+Lal+Verma%2C&qt=hot_author
- http://www.worldcat.org/wcidentities/lccn-no2005-41232
Even then if Mr Sitush is not satisfied what else can be done here? Hope at least you will help me. ....Quicksilver7784 (talk) 06:17, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Those Worldcat links don't tell me anything other than that the book exists and a few libraries have it. What did you intend to mean with those links? Qwyrxian (talk) 22:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Show Cause
Why you delete the contents of Textile Education in Bangladesh. You should it undo as soon as possible. Kironbd07 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kironbd07 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- I removed information for two reasons. First, a lot of it was not neutral--it talked about how great the schools are, or how well regarded, or whatever. That's not allowed per WP:NPOV. I also removed a bit of the details about the institutions, because that information can be found on the institutions pages themselves--per our summary style, we don't need to repeat that information in that page.
- Was there something in specific that I removed that you think should be put back? It's possible that during my clean-up I took out more than necessary. Qwyrxian (talk) 21:32, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Labanya Prabha Ghosh
Hi. Labanya Prabha Ghosh was nominated for deletion, and I found that the person was / is notable. I developed the artaicle and am not sure, whether my approach is appropriate. Can you please review this article and give suggestions, if any? Thank you for all your support. Rayabhari (talk) 08:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, she clearly appears to be notable, and the article looks better now. The AfD is clearly going to result in keeping the article, which is great. Thanks for the helpful additions! Qwyrxian (talk) 01:25, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Beatles RfC
I assume you are also aware of this user canvassing at "the" bands, but if not here you go. ~ GabeMc 01:17, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- I was not, but I will explore the issue. Thank you. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:24, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Spamming/promotion?
Hi there! Please take a look at User:Ranjit preet/sandbox; they seems to be a professional writer and inserted external links to his pages everywhere e.g. blogs, openlibrary, facebook pages in the promotional way. Is it not spamming and promotion? If they would do this on any article namespace, I would immigately revert that before any talk but as they did so in their user space so I want your help if a user can do what ever he/she want in their userspace? (He also did the same on the Punjabi wiki.) --tari buttar (talk) 09:49, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- I've asked the user to explain. The strangest thing is that we already have an article on the exact same topic. Unless I get a clear explanation, I'm likely to nominate for deletion, since if the only reason he created it was to spam his online presence, it's not appropriate. But it's possible he has some other purpose in mind, either learning Wiki syntax in a safe place or in preparation for modifications to the article itself, so I'll wait a while to see if any explanation is forthcoming. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:06, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
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Webclient101 (talk) 05:13, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
what i meant on "persists"
I saw that the author of an article, Blake Stamos had already been warned on creating that self-promotional article before I tagged it, it appeared that he did it again, and thus is why I thought he persisted in the self promotion. Thebestofall007 (talk) 05:29, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- But it was the same article. The editor was warned at 1:01, and you tagged the article for deletion at 1:02. Thus, there was no persisting. The editor didn't "do it again", they only did it once. And even if they had done it a second time, we rarely block people for just one repeated mistake, except when it's clearly someone just here to vandalize the encyclopedia. But for things like self-promotion, we at least try to talk to the person, because many people simply don't understand our rules about what is or isn't a valid WP article. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Okay. I gotcha now. Thebestofall007 (talk) 05:36, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
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RSN
Wow, was someone having a bad day when they responded to and then unilaterally closed my query here? Or was I really that off-beam? - Sitush (talk) 08:41, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- I've undone the closure, and added a comment. Amadscientist either misunderstood you or is just flat out wrong. In any event, noticeboard threads should not be closed so quickly unless, like the one below you, they're in the wrong place.
- I'm not good about checking threads on those pages--my eyes tend to skim over them on my watchlist (i'm up to over 4800 pages--how about you?). If something further develops there and I don't respond, feel free to let me know. Qwyrxian (talk) 09:01, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- It was the premature closure that most surprised me, although the vague suggestion that I have some sort of Muslim POV was weird also. My puny 1250-item watchlist may be static at present - some added, some removed. I reckon that I'd implode somewhere around the 2000 mark. - Sitush (talk) 09:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- YGM. - Sitush (talk) 09:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'll followup tomorrow. Qwyrxian (talk) 11:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Amadscientist seems to be showing up a bit today - looking a bit stressed, possibly -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:26, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Boing, they said on their talk page that they were not having a bad day but the indications seems to be otherwise. I, too, have seen them around a fair bit in the last few hours - I have ANI, DRN etc watchlisted. I find some of the actions and interpretations to be very peculiar. Perhaps they are just skimming stuff and picking up what they consider to be key phrases etc. It is skimming that often causes people to accuse Malleus of incivility etc, although of course he (and I!) are not perfect.
I've seen your note on their talk page, Q. I'm not happy with the situation but will back off because they have at least retracted some of their stuff. Hopefully, they will backtrack on the remainder of their high-handedness, especially the idea that my original comment was "inappropriate", contrary to some bluelink or another, and likely to foment a religious hoo-hah. If something is controversial then it is controversial and we cannot just brush it under the carpet. The assumption that, because I did not respond within five minutes, I must be rethinking my position was plain bizarre. - Sitush (talk) 16:44, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Well, people acting under stress don't always immediately recognise it in themselves - and I think there is enough on the page now to show he was wrong with his ABF, wrong in closing the discussion on his sole say-so, and factually wrong about the source. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:55, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Boing, they said on their talk page that they were not having a bad day but the indications seems to be otherwise. I, too, have seen them around a fair bit in the last few hours - I have ANI, DRN etc watchlisted. I find some of the actions and interpretations to be very peculiar. Perhaps they are just skimming stuff and picking up what they consider to be key phrases etc. It is skimming that often causes people to accuse Malleus of incivility etc, although of course he (and I!) are not perfect.
- (talk page stalker) Amadscientist seems to be showing up a bit today - looking a bit stressed, possibly -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:26, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'll followup tomorrow. Qwyrxian (talk) 11:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- YGM. - Sitush (talk) 09:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- It was the premature closure that most surprised me, although the vague suggestion that I have some sort of Muslim POV was weird also. My puny 1250-item watchlist may be static at present - some added, some removed. I reckon that I'd implode somewhere around the 2000 mark. - Sitush (talk) 09:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Other Clan Names of Pal-Kshatriya
Please see my Edits and comments at Qwyrxian/Pal-kshatriya page regarding Pal-Kshatriya.
--Jalaj Singh 09:42, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, I am going to get to this soon, I promise--almost certainly in about 12-16 hours. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Muhammad/images
i thought you should know that I reverted image deletion edits by User:ASDosar to whom you have given this final warning. DeCausa (talk) 12:51, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know; I've blocked the user indefinitely. As I explained in the block notice, usually I'd start with a short, fixed duration block, but the user's last edit before today was in May, so I doubt any short duration block would even be noticed. Indefinite, though, doesn't mean infinite--the user just needs to commit to not deleting the images any more. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:03, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
From Knightflyte
Mr. Qwyxian,
I found your message and ssuptions just a wee but harsh. You refer back to three years ago when I was just strarting to learn how to do minot editing on Wkupedia pages. I made mistakes but it was never delibarte. I have never been paid for any contributions I've made to Misplaced Pages including my latest effort for the YWCA Los Angeles. I'm contributing my time to them for many of the great services they provide to the community. Instead of threatening to block me I'd much rather appreciate your guidance and help whenever possible. – — ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightflyte (talk • contribs) 20:08, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
- Apologies if I sounded harsh. Please note that my concerns about promotionalism don't only relate to the 3 year old discussion; for instance, in June of this year, you added phrases like, "As one the industry's most respected acting coaches, R.J. Adams ..." to The Actors Workshop. That's the exact same sort of language that professional promoters use. The info you added to YWCA was also promotional in that you weren't describing them neutrally, you were praising them for their great contributions to LA (just like you've done in the message I'm replying to now). Note that promoting isn't only by being paid--if you're a volunteer for YWCA LA, and editing on their behalf, that still falls under WP:COI.
- However, please note that I'm not interested in blocking you for this. As I said, I am personally okay with people editing on behalf of their companies, organization, selves, and even editing for pay, so long as all of our other policies are followed. All I care is that we have good, well written, neutral, and informative articles at the end of the day.
- So, again, sorry if I was threatening. The main thing you need to improve on is writing neutral, sourced prose. WP:NPOV and WP:V are a good place to start for information about how those rules work. The information you just added to the YWCA LA article is much better because it was verified by reliable sources; thank you for that. I'm happy to advise further whenever you need help. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:19, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
I appreciate your taking the time to explain things to me and believe we are on the same page. I do appreciate your attitude. In the future I will do my best to follow every Misplaced Pages policy as I understand the great amount of work that editors like yourself spend on the various articles. Your offoer to add help will be gladly accepted. Many thanks – — ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightflyte (talk • contribs) 01:48, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
From Soopman11
Hey I'm that "pragmatic criticism of anarchism", basically, I decided to erase that section simple because it was off topic, why could a pragmatic criticism of anarchism article need writings defending all criticism of anarchism. That was just an article intent to list the objective critique of the philosophy since its a long topic, how would re-posting defenses against the criticism, which were already listed in the main topic that showed the reason why anarchists had their values. The main topic was explicitly clear that anarchists believe that centralized power is bad, but the critique to that perspective was the elimination of a consistent impartial standard would lead to inconsistency in justice where monetary power has the capability of swaying justice. Though that point of view was missing references which I accepted so it was taken down however the off topic information was still in place so I had to delete it since its better to have no information as compared to bad information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soopman11 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- I have no opinion on the anarchism issue. What I warned you for was putting a message on another user's userpage. Maybe that was an error on your part as a new user, but you should basically never edit another user's userpage--use their talk page instead. Furthermore, your message was very close to being a personal attack, which is not allowed per WP:NPA. It's fine to have disagreements on Misplaced Pages, but when we do, we do so civilly and patiently. If you want to discuss the article issue further, go to the article's talk page and raise the issue. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:37, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Ok noted, which third party do I have to see if I believe that somebody is being unreasonable?
- Before you seek a third party, you need to discuss the issue on the article's talk page. If you feel like you're not getting anywhere, and it's just 2 people talking, then you can request a Third opinion. If it's a bigger discussion, try an request for comment. There are other, specific places, depending on what the problem is, but those are two good general ways to go. But the most important thing is that, no matter where you go, you must try to discuss the issue with the other party first. Let me know if you need further help in getting those processes rolling. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:03, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
first reasonable person I've met Soopman11 (talk) 00:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC) |
Another requested edit to go over
WWB Too has a proposed draft up as a complete rewrite for the article Penn, Schoen & Berland. The talk page section for the draft is here. The draft itself can be found at User:WWB Too/Penn Schoen Berland. The one is probably gonna need a histmerge at the end. If you can look over it when you have time, i'd appreciate it. Thanks. Silverseren 01:53, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Dispute Resolution RFC
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Rajakeeya Maha Vidyalaya, Telijjawila
Having multiple names that have been randomly published by local news papers will only create more ambiguity. Cossde (talk) 13:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- THat's life. YOu can't exclude reliably sourced info because it creates ambiguity. Another way of putting it is that if the name is ambiguous in real life sources, then it must be ambiguous on WP, too. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:56, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- A government school can not have a name that is ambiguous in real life. Given at this school has a original Sinhala name it could be translated into English in multiple ways depending on the translator creating ambiguity in the process, even in RS. This is much like the Mokusatsu indecent. Therefore what we are doing by furthering this is making it ambiguous on WP. Or maybe that is the actual aim of these socks in the first place to create ambiguity by creating an article for any and every school sounding similar to Royal College ! Cossde (talk) 12:27, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- No, you're wrong. It can definitely have a name that is ambiguous in real life. If different RS use different names, our article must, absolutely, without exception include those various names. This is at the very heart of what Misplaced Pages does--we are not here to decide the "truth"; we are only here to say what reliable sources say is truth...and in cases where they disagree, we report that disagreement. There are no exceptions to this, and if you can't handle that, then we have a much bigger problem. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:30, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- Well, its not my problem if you are incapable or unwilling to understand the "truth" in this situation. And I do not blame you for it as you for (try not to find this offensive, as don't mean it that way), a non-Sri Lankan you may not be able to grasp the ground reality which is very much different from the "prefect" environment of WP. If you were to read article from what you may call an RS, you would see how schools are represent (not listed) comparatively in context rather than in individual articles out of contex Cossde (talk) 04:34, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, I may have miswritten above. My real point is that truth has absoluely nothign to do with Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages isn't here to decide the "right" answer, about anything. We are hear to report on reliable sources. That is the beginning, middle, and end of Misplaced Pages. And the fact that you don't agree with that makes me a bit sorry that I've been inherently defending your position on these articles. The article you linked to doesn't work; could you check the url again? I'll be happy to read it, but I'm growing very worried. You may want to respond to the ANI, as well. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:51, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
- I am sorry, perhaps what I trying to say here maybe coming out wrong. I have already replayed to ANI based on the a replay I made to Xe2oner in the talk page of Royal College, Colombo. It funny how all these other articles come and end up here. There I have explain exactly why we can not rely on the RS on these topics. Pls try these urls , . Note that the word Rajakeeya is Sinhala for Royal and that is the word used to refer to Wayamba Rajakeeya PV, Kurunegala (Royal College Wayamba, Kurunegala), Rajakeeya V, Horana (Horana Royal College), Rajakeeya MMV, New Town Polonnaruwa (Polonnaruwa Rajakeeya Madya Maha Vidyalaya). Here V stands for Vidyalaya (College), P for Prathmica (elementary) and MMV for Madya Maha Vidyalaya (Central College).Cossde (talk) 05:49, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
- Well, its not my problem if you are incapable or unwilling to understand the "truth" in this situation. And I do not blame you for it as you for (try not to find this offensive, as don't mean it that way), a non-Sri Lankan you may not be able to grasp the ground reality which is very much different from the "prefect" environment of WP. If you were to read article from what you may call an RS, you would see how schools are represent (not listed) comparatively in context rather than in individual articles out of contex Cossde (talk) 04:34, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I don't know how else to contact you
Somebody is erasing the edits which I had put that were reasonable in that criticism of anarchy page but then people who are biased against it are ruining my edits because they don't like them and I've even stating the fact that there are no actual "pragmatic criticism" on the page. What do I do, how can I find an unbiased third party guy? Soopman11 (talk) 22:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- The reason that they are erasing the edits is because you aren't providing any reliable sources to support the claims you want to add. This is a very important part of Misplaced Pages--information must be based on what real world, reliable sources have already said. You included a "reference", but it's a reference to Misplaced Pages itself, which is never a reliable source. It may help you to read some of the pages on our basic policies; specifically, I recommend WP:V, WP:OR, and WP:RS for the current concern. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:27, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) ... and WP:CIRCULAR is pretty specific. - Sitush (talk) 00:38, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
hello...whew this is so challenging to get these WIKI rules straight. You asked about external links to verify THE WIN AWARDS and WOMEN'S IMAGE NETWORK so we can stop being blacklisted, blocked and removed. I have seen at least ten external links on the win awards DOT com website UNDER news section...but if I paste them here I cannot save this page...since one of these links has been blacklisted...
can you please advise what to do? thanks.. (GingerMomma12 (talk) 19:21, 28 September 2012 (UTC))
- The sites were blacklisted because you were adding them to so many different articles, they did not appear to be reliable sources or valid external links. And the ones being blacklisted won't help the current problem, because the WIN site itself is not an independent reliable source. Before we do anything else w.r.t. WIN, we need evidence to demonstrate that someone independent of the group has talked about the awards or the Network in detail. Do you know of such references? Qwyrxian (talk) 00:27, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
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The Poll
I have just remembered that I didn't vote yet. Am I not allowed, as per your message? A reply on my talk page would be good. I thank you.--andreasegde (talk) 18:53, 29 September 2012 (UTC)