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Tony the Marine's User Boxes This user loves Puerto Rico. External audio You may listen to Marc Anthony's interpretation of "Preciosa" here and "Lamento Borincano" here This user identifies as a Puerto Rican. This user is of Corsican ancestry. This user is of Spanish ancestry. This user is a United States Marine (Once a Marine always a Marine) This user has written or significantly contributed to 4 Featured articles on Misplaced Pages. This user has written or significantly contributed to 1 featured list on Misplaced Pages. This user has helped promote 21 good articles on Misplaced Pages. This user has been a major contributor to 62 articles featured in the Did you know... section on the Main Page. This user has 5 Featured Selected Biography/Articles in the United States Marine Corps portal This user is an administrator on the English Misplaced Pages. (verify) This user participates in WikiProject Caribbean. This user is a member of WikiProject Puerto Rico. en This user is a native speaker of the English language. es Este usuario tiene el español como lengua materna. This user has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian and was awarded his own day. Search user languages

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Tony!

Long time, no hear. I'm aware that your country is celebrating a very important day today... so I just thought I would take a moment to wish you a very happy July 4. I hope you are doing well and staying out of trouble. Be good, and whatever you're having, have one for me too. Regards,  -- WikHead (talk) 03:35, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Always a pleasure to hear from you too! Other than Misplaced Pages Tony, I really haven't been up to too much... but I've recently learned that I'll be a grandfather in March, so I'm sure my schedule is soon about to get a whole lot more exciting. Have yourself a great day Tony... and enjoy the fireworks!  -- WikHead (talk) 05:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you, it is so nice to hear from you. Yes, in the United States July 4th is celebrated as Independence Day. The pre-United States was a colony of England and did not have any representation in the English courts. The members of the continental independence movement fought with the aide of France and Spain and won. It is ironic that the United States celebrates it's independence when it has denied it's colony Puerto Rico its God given right to its own independence. The independence factions in the island fought for this right in 1950, but unlike the continentals of America, they had no one to back them up and were crushed. As Abraham Lincoln, the 16th President of the United States, once said:

  "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves."

Take care, Tony the Marine (talk) 06:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

• It would seem to me that you knew that slice of history right off the top of your head, without having to look it up... and I must say that I'm always impressed when I see someone who is so in-tune with their history like that. I'm rather interested in certain eras of history myself, but tend to be the guy who always has to hit the books to refresh my memory and collect the facts before the discussion begins.
• (as well) - Thank you kindly for the Facebook invitation. As nearly all my online activity takes place within my employer's network (that blocks or filters certain websites), I've never got around to creating a Facebook account... but with my first grandchild on the way, it's probably something I should soon look into for the sake of sharing the experience with my extended family and friends afar. I will make certain to look you up when I finally get around to setting that up. Stay cool Tony... enjoy your day, and don't be taking any wooden nickels.  -- WikHead (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Agueybana

Hello Tony, I know you are good in military history. Can I ask a favor? Please check out Agüeybaná II and Agüeybaná an their associated talk pages and let me know if I missed anything please. I recently work a lot on these articles and I know you contributed a lot to them. Thank you, Mercy11 (talk) 15:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Article Merge: Illegal drugs in Puerto Rico and Puerto Rican Drug War

DONE!!!

You may now delete Puerto Rican Drug War as discussed. I have merged everything into Illegal drugs in Puerto Rico, as discussed.

Thank you,

Mercy11 (talk) 00:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Wall of Honor

Wow Tony! This has got to be one of the kindest gestures, and nicest things that anyone on Misplaced Pages has ever said, done, and given me. I'm practically speechless and nearly have a tear in my eye over how thoughtful you are, and how proud you've just made me feel. I have plans to actually create a user-page for myself in the coming weeks, where I will most certainly be displaying my shiny new star with pride. It's certainly a great honour to be on your Wall of Honor! Thank you for all your kind words, your thoughtfulness, and most importantly... for being my friend . You're certainly a great guy to know. Please feel welcome to message me any time you please, even it's just to say hi. Thanks so much, again!  -- WikHead (talk) 00:48, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Agueybana II

RE: ,,, now there is a huge space between Arrival of Conquistadores and Taino Rebellion sections .............

Mercy11 (talk) 16:18, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Awesome

Hey man, I really like this picture. I hope to go there someday. Mercy11 (talk) 13:48, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Agüeybaná

Hi! In reference to THIS, when you say pintuta (painting), do you mean this PAINTING (your upload), or this SCULPTURE (my upload)? I am not clear if you wrote in dissapointment (yours) or in warning (mine). And remember either one could be kept (we can try!) in the Englsih WP via fair use. Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 10:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Main Page appearance

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of the article List of Puerto Ricans Missing in Action in the Korean War know that it will be appearing as the main page featured list on July 23, 2012. You can view the TFL blurb at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured list/July 23, 2012. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured list directors The Rambling Man (talk · contribs), Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) or Giants2008 (talk · contribs), or at Misplaced Pages talk:Today's featured list. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Misplaced Pages doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 03:29, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

A total of 121 Puerto Rican soldiers were among the 8,200 people listed as missing in action during the Korean War. This total does not include people of Puerto Rican descent who were born in the mainland of the United States. It was during the Korean War that Puerto Ricans suffered the most casualties as members of an all-Hispanic volunteer unit: the 65th Infantry Regiment. One of the problems the unit faced was the language difference; the common foot soldier spoke only Spanish, while the commanding officers were mostly English-speaking. The Battle of Outpost Kelly (illustration pictured) accounted for 73 of the men missing in action from the total of 121. Out of the 73 MIAs suffered by the regiment in the month of September, 50 of them occurred on the same day: September 18. All 121 men served within the ranks of the United States Army with the sole exception of Ramón Núñez-Juárez, who served in the Marines. Their names are inscribed in El Monumento de la Recordación located in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

• Nice. Tony the Marine (talk) 05:53, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

And the Agueybana saga continues

These 2 guys were brothers, not uncle-nephew, so I changed the 2 articles to reflect that. just fyi. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 14:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

New Cat in town

Category:Puerto Rican independence activists,,,,, I would like to see this go past the 200 mark (at 87 now). I know they are out there, we just need to keep finding them!

Hey, thanks for the Antonio Valero de Bernabé cite - I knew if the bio was about a Puerto Rican and military, you probably held the "key". At the same time I was curious if the correct translation was "from" or "of"....but now I understand the whole thing and why it has to be "from". Thanks for adding this guy whom I had never heard of.

Here is a treat for you: Los Chinos de Ponce (note: if it's hot out be sure to get plenty of napkins,,, they melt fast!!!).

Mercy11 (talk) 18:47, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Congrats

on the article List of Puerto Ricans Missing in Action in the Korean War. Also, I now have in in my watchlist. Take care, Mercy11 (talk) 16:33, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Morgan Earp

Your picture of the Campbell & Hatch Billiard Parlor is incorrect. I made a note on your picture. I work at 5th and Allen Streets in Tombstone and am there virtually every day. Please input the correct picture. Thanks.

Jim

Grumpyjimcanyon (talk) 03:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

• Done! Hey "Grumpy", it would be nice if you took pictures of the Historic Markers in Tombstone and uploaded them. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Masacre

Hey Tony, in reference to THIS, what are you using as a source? I have seen 2 policemen in various sources, and 1 policeman only once (besides your correction here, that is). I always had my curiosity about the TWO dead policemen count, asking myself if it was that they shot so bad that even without any opposiing fire the group of some 40 policemen would manage to kill 5% of themselves via friendly fire alone. Hey, if there were 2 dead policemen, we might assume there were, what?, 10-20 additional wounded policemen?????????????? Thanks. Mercy11 (talk) 13:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I wonder if Calle Victoria, a well-known and long thoroughfare in Ponce, is name after him... Mercy11 (talk) 19:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

This guy >>>>(Sunny A. Cabrera Salcedo. Hacia un Estudio Integral de la Toponimia del Municipio de Ponce, Puerto Rico. Ph. D. dissertation. University of Massachusetts at Amherst. Graduate School. Department of Spanish and Portuguese. May 1999.)<<<< would know. This is how he got his PhD.

In any event, I doubt it was named after V-day, because I believe Teatro Victoria (it's located at Victoria esq. Union) was already there before V-day. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

LongHorn Restaurant photo

Hi Tony,

It turns out that the photo you added to the LongHorn Steakhouse article is of an establishment with a similar name but is not part of the chain. I've removed it (with regret.) It's a great photo; maybe you'd like to author an article on the restaurant?

Cheers, Majoreditor (talk) 03:53, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Yajaira Sierra-Sastre

"Sin palabras"

Mercy11 (talk) 13:17, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Gracias! One of my degrees is in chemistry so it figures I might know a bit about that stuff. It's always a pleasure to work with you! Take care, Mercy11 (talk) 17:10, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Attention

Was wandering if I could have your opinion on the following. This editor HERE has been bickering on issues related to the Puerto Rican independence movement article. Without entering into the merits of his claims -- which at this point is not the issue here -- I am doubtful of his sincerity and intentions. I say this because according to the records HERE, he has been editing for only 2 days and yet he has managed to move around aspect/services of the encyclopedia (--- as shown HERE , HERE , HERE , and HERE ---), that, at least in my case, take a good 3-6 months to have fully mastered. Even if it didn't take 3 months, his is certainly not a 2-day old expertise level. Check out his other contributions, and you will find plenty other examples that would reflect a level of expertise that is far beyond 2 days. Hey, when an editor has been around for 2 days only, he is plenty content only with being able to edit articles!

Since you are quite versed at this sort of things, I am wandering if you are thinking what I am thinking and if you think a checkuser would be appropriate here. You know, in the past, new editors have pop up that have participated in controversies, etc, that have taken a considerable amount of our time (read: they have disrupted the encyclopedia) and our effort, just to be found out later they were sockpuppets all along. Your opnion is appreciated. Mercy11 (talk) 00:56, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Puerto Rican independence movement

Tony,

Mercy and you presented an excellent defense of Puerto Rican independence movement. I just added another comment on the talk page, and I also thanked Mercy for the thorough and compelling defense, as well.

Nelsondenis248 (talk) 22:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

69.116.111.163

Hi. I saw your notes at User talk:69.116.111.163 and User talk:69.116.103.24 about the same person using multiple IPs to edit. That can be deliberately abusive but usually it's just due to the fact that IP addresses change as folks change editing locations or their ISPs reassign their modems new IPs. For all we know, he may have merely experienced a summer thunderstorm and gotten a new IP when his modem re-powered.

His edits don't look vandalistic. Maybe he doesn't fully understand the way we do things.

In any event, thanks for keeping an eye on our articles. --A. B. 00:59, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• The situation in particular is that this user has continuned to post the same cats. on the Rick Aviles article, dispite the fact that he/she has been told not to because they do not apply to the subject. This is not new, the user has been doing this for a long time therefore he/she is not a newbe. If users who are registered use multiple accounts and are blocked for violating our sockpuppet policies, then the same rule should apply to IP users who do the same, no exceptions. None the less, I left an explanation to the user in the articles talk page. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:46, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

In my experience over 90% of vandals use anonymonus IPs. Someone ought to start up a RFC on whether Misplaced Pages should continue to allow editing by anonymous users. I realize this represents a policy change, and also realize the subject has probably been brought up before. But, hey, every other website on Earth requires you be a registered user to edit, why not Misplaced Pages? And the answer cannot be the "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit" slogan because claim would still be true if editors had to register (read: the two concepts are not mutually exclusive).

Fact is, (1) a significant amount of us ("legit editors") time is taken up going into the Watchlist to clean up after vandals, (2) a fair portion of disrupotive editors are anonymous IPs, (3) a good part of our quality Misplaced Pages time is spent dealing with anonymous IP editors in a fashion that I feel is unfair to the registered editor, that is, anonymous IP users, having less of a "reputation" to preserve are generally more prone to acts of uncivility and abuse that we registered users have to put up with, (4) most sock-puppeteers are, I believe, anonymous IPs, (5) as shared IPs, anonymous IPs get a lesser "sentence" when blocked than registered users, resulting in an unfair penalty to registered users when get in trouble for violation policies (3RRs, etc) -- this goes against reason/common sense, and (6) even legit editors will, though probably rarely, will, intentionally, edit from an anonymous IP when they really want to make a change but don't want to tarnish their "reputation" by being confrontational. Ok, I am not an expert at initiating, moderating, etc., RFC's. Maybe someone that agrees with this can fire it up. Mercy11 (talk) 03:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

¡Hola Tony!

I am always remembering you for your guidance and encouragement given to wiki users. Semper fidelis. MusiCitizen (talk) 13:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Venegas

Keep an eye on THIS guy - he may be our next Venegas, except maybe Silver or Gold!!! Mercy11 (talk) 19:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Help with AfD Elliott Castro

Help please: Elliott Castro. Ahnoneemoos (talk) 15:52, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

• Mrmatiko ius right, there are some minor issues with the stub. I did some minor stuff related to the format which I think will help for now. I suggest that you expand the article a little more and post some extra sources. The important question that we must ask ourselves is, is he truly notable or is he "one amongst many"? I see that he has contirbuted many sports related articles for "Claridad". You many want to create a "section" titled "Sports articles by Castro" in the article and cite where they are written in Claridad as the reference sources. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:43, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Sports in Puerto Rico

Tony, I am really not that well versed in sports (remember science /chemistry is my forte). I do well in cultural issues, but when it comes to sports I am hard pressed to do justice even to Ponceños. If I come across the type of info you'd like, I will happily add it to the Sports in Puerto Rico article. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 00:21, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

You know I don't like to say no, so here is something I can proffer for now: and . You may already have these; if not, I hope this helps. Mercy11 (talk) 19:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

FREE

Hi. You may want to sign up for these, if you haven't already:

THIS, THIS and THIS

Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 01:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

9/11

You must have a respectable library at your disposal!!,,, sometimes I wonder how the heck and where the heck you get all this info from! Also,...I wonder if this guy's parents and my grandparents ever crossed paths in the Yauco mountains. Regards. Mercy11 (talk) 03:19, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Seriously?

Gang leader too???? Awesome!!! Maybe you know my buddy Nicky Cruz!!! Mercy11 (talk)

Marine

I am not sure why THIS edit - the quoted cite specifically and unequivocally states "The most decorated soldier of the Vietnam War" (ignoring the War reference which was clearly a typo). Could you explain please?

With the exception of one citation (THIS ONE by the Vietnam Veterans of America at http://www.vva.org/archive/TheVeteran/2001_01/memnotes.htm which calls him “the most decorated PUERTO RICAN veteran”), all the other 3 citations (#1 Puerto Rico Daily Sun at http://www.prdailysun.com/index.php?page=news.article&id=1321065604 , #2 Major General Orlando Llenza at http://www.prstatehood.com/news/llenza_1108.pdf and #3 Latino Alliance at http://www.latinoalliance.net/profiles-in-courage.html ) also state in one fashion or another that Otero is the most highly decorated U.S. soldier in Vietnam.

These are sources by the news media, two peer groups, and one community advocacy group...a well-rounded mix of sources. In that case, clearly, they could not all be wrong...

The U.S. military is apparently not in the business of bestowing "most decorated soldier" awards. If it did, it would be easy to support the "most decorated" this and that. Nevertheless, we can still go by what is documented outside the U.S. military.

The quote was also consistent with the other 2 references related to this subject in the article (#1 "the most decorated U.S. soldier of the Vietnam War" (lead section) and #2 "The most decorated U.S. soldier of the Vietnam War" infobox) prior to your edit. What citation are you using for the change?

As it appears you may have missed the references that were provided, I have corrected your edit to remove the "Puerto Rican" qualifier which is not found in the reference cited. Any questions, let me know.

Thanks. Mercy11 (talk) 03:06, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

The defender award

	The Defender Barnstar
	Thank you for creating, sourcing and defending the Jorge Otero Barreto article; for your contributions to Puerto Rican history; and for your efforts to improve the encyclopedia for the public! Nelsondenis248 (talk) 06:37, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Otero

I dont have the expertise in military history you have, so I am coming for advise/help in that area. From graduating at United States Army Air Assault School, then seems Otero was a member so the 181st airborn division. As such, I have added him to the list of notable members HERE. If this is incorrect, please feel free to remove or edit as needed. If not a member of that division, then which one? and as a notable member of what division should he be added to? In any event, the article about him should probably state that sort of information, as well as his unit information. Thanks, Mercy11 (talk) 22:03, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Based on the text and description HERE, it seems to me Otero was also awarded THIS medal.

TEXT:
"The Vietnam Service Medal is presented to any service member who served on temporary duty for more than 30 consecutive days, or 60 non-consecutive days, attached to or regularly serving for one, or more, days with an organization participating in or directly supporting ground (military) operations or attached to or regularly serving for one, or more, days aboard a naval vessel directly supporting military operations in the Republic of Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos within the defined combat zone (DoD 1348 C6.6.1.1.5. revised September 1996) between the dates of 15 November 1961 to 28 March 1973, and from 29 April 1975 to 30 April 1975."

¿Comments???? Mercy11 (talk) 01:10, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

I think I have almost enough info

to answer the question at Commons. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 22:15, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Hola!

Good to see you still fighting over here. Just got mailed to the old e-mail, which to be honest freaked me out, since that one has been unused for a while after being hit with spyware spam. I will send you the new e-mail this week (it's the same one that was updated a couple of months in my FaceBook account). However, I may stick for a few weeks to attend the Clemente GAR, if that is still open, then will most likely return in Thanksgiving week and remain here until January. The "Military branches in Puerto Rico" article has been siting half-way done in a CD ROM for a while, since I got a new PC three months ago, that should be done by the holidays.- Caribbean~H.Q. 02:21, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	hi, i jut edit like 5 time about puertoricans th US . i add Anthony Romeo Santos is a half puerto tican dominican singer born in Bronx. i make my research n yes he is puertorican by mother side. sorry n thanks Ily16 (talk) 01:02, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

• ???? I think that this is my first sarcastic barnstar (smile). Anthony Romeo Santos's name was removed from the "list" because the simple rules of inclussion were not followed. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:57, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Sports in Puerto Rico

Tony,

Sports in Puerto Rico looks great! Also, I added a couple of New York Times cites to Casals Festival.

That is a beautiful barnstar you sent me! Aesthetically and emotionally, a real jewel. Thank you.

Nelsondenis248 (talk) 18:29, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

RE: AWARD

Didnt want you to think I had overlooked or forgotton about your Award to me- Thank You!! Was just waiting for after the Otero discussion had completed in case I had some additional thoughts, which I do but, IAE, thanks for now! Mercy11 (talk) 21:02, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

John Rivas page

Saludos Tony:

First of all nice to meet you, its an honor.

Thanks, I wanted to make the infobox, but didn't know how to.

Also, Thanks for creating John Rivas page. I am his assistant and I am updating his page. He told me to ask you your mailing address, so he can send you BONZZO's Second Pictorial Cancellation Memorabilia (from May 10, 2012) with BONZZO's Comemorative Stamp by mail, and if you are on Facebook, please let me know, so he can add you to his friends.

Last, I wanted to place pictures, but I am not sure how to, I tried to place an image of his, that's also on his Facebook page (but we have the original and he's the owner of the image), but it didn't upload. Could you please help me with these? I don't know how to.

Thanks --GenovevaT (talk) 17:37, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

All that I can say is THANKS!!!, for all your help. --GenovevaT (talk) 01:45, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Better picture

Hi. The photo of Otero displayed in the article (HERE) is public domain according to THIS, and I have seen it again in various websites with varying degrees of detail and cropping. The one in his article seems to be the most-cropped and, thus, the least-detailed of those roaming around various websites. The one most detailed (and least cropped) seems to be the one at the Brave Lords site (HERE). It shows his full name tag ("OTERO") and the two airborne patches on his upper arms. Plus the "US ARMY" tag on his shirt. All of these are missing from the photo in his article. Maybe we could upload a new version of the file. What do you think? Mercy11 (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Entiendo. Mercy11 (talk) 13:52, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

 ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mercy11 (talk) 14:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Adding a Person

Hi Tony - i was truying to add the following person to the list of puerto ricans but not sure which categroy she comes under (dancer and academic) -http://en.wikipedia.org/Ana_Sanchez-Colberg Ericmakesthree (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:02, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Check

You may want to check footnote #10 at the botton of page 5, HERE. This is the same author that stated that Juan Sanz from Ponce was the first one to perish in France during the WWI conflict. As I recall, back then you had shown some lack of confidence that the book/author/historian might not be an authoritative source. Just for teh record! Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 03:42, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

No prob. Mercy11 (talk) 19:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:AntonioMartin/Antonio Martin San Juan International Airport

User:AntonioMartin/Antonio Martin San Juan International Airport, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:AntonioMartin/Antonio Martin San Juan International Airport and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:AntonioMartin/Antonio Martin San Juan International Airport during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. damiens.rf 20:34, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you for the notice. I only created the page for my son. It will be up to him to deal with it if he still wants it to stay. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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