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If the photographer was 30 years old in 1890 and died at the age of 90 (which would be in 1950), it is just 62 years after "life of author." The term is ambiguous, but per the template definition refers to the death-year. For unknown photographers, seems unlikely any photo will benefit from the tag, since we are talking of a potential 170 or 180 years in the past here. Yeah, the whole thing is a pain. ] (]) 03:05, 6 October 2012 (UTC) If the photographer was 30 years old in 1890 and died at the age of 90 (which would be in 1950), it is just 62 years after "life of author." The term is ambiguous, but per the template definition refers to the death-year. For unknown photographers, seems unlikely any photo will benefit from the tag, since we are talking of a potential 170 or 180 years in the past here. Yeah, the whole thing is a pain. ] (]) 03:05, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
: Yikes, it looks like my math was wrong :( We might have to delete it after all, or convert to fair-use. Hopefully Giano will respond and tell us where he got the image. The file is currently in use in a userspace draft. -- ] (]) 03:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC) I don't think it qualifies for fair use in the user-space draft, and the user has retired, so the article may never be moved into main space. -- ] (]) 03:46, 6 October 2012 (UTC) : Yikes, it looks like my math was wrong :( We might have to delete it after all, or convert to fair-use. Hopefully Giano will respond and tell us where he got the image. The file is currently in use in a userspace draft. -- ] (]) 03:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC) I don't think it qualifies for fair use in the user-space draft, and the user has retired, so the article may never be moved into main space. -- ] (]) 03:46, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
==I do know what is going on with Samofi ==
Samofi's latest message at his own talk page was so devoid of common sense that it left me astonished. Frankly, this is precisely the sort of behaviour which makes the English Misplaced Pages an unpleasant place to work. First of all, he isn't only banned from editing Misplaced Pages for an indefinite duration, but there is even a topic ban he is placed under, which prohibits him making any contributions in Misplaced Pages that pertains to Hungarian and/or Slovakian ethnic and national disputes, likewise for an indefinite duration .
:As for "It looks like a spamming and nationalistic agenda ...", it constitutes ] as well as the downright violation of his valid topic ban. However, since he is already blocked from editing, I have no way to ask an administrator to make amends for this harassment by blocking the user.
::As for "I have noticed a lot of POV pushing from problematic (lot of times blocked user - Nmate", it is him who should hold his row concerning this matter; for GOD's sake, this is a twofold indef-blocked user who is banned from editing each article that covers his only one interesting field in Misplaced Pages, and even a former(?) sockpuppeter in addition. I do not think that I should take the blame for anything this user says.

In case, he were to receive an unblock given him for an indefinite duration, and in addition; he were to manage to even convince the Arbitration Comitee about the fact that his topic ban that covers his only one interesting field in Misplaced Pages should be lifted, he would still be unable to make useful contributions in Misplaced Pages because of his poor command of English. As a native speaker of English, you can also recognize that none of his sentences is written in grammatically correct English.

:::You Diannaa told "The best way forward if you wish to open an arbitration case or discuss your block is to contact the Arbitration Committee at arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org". I augur that it won't help. I regret to inform you that it is not possibe to send any messages to the Arbitration Comitee directly. Any messages of this sort are riddled by moderators who take decision on forwarding them to the Arbitration Committee. Unfortunately I received a rather senseless block in last October. When I was blocked, I did all I could to appeal it including sending emails to the Arbitration Comitee to which I failed to receive an answer. Also, Samofi is free to initiate a discussion his unblock, however, I wouldn't dare to lay a wager on his success. With his past, he can hardly offer anything to be cogent enough for the community to let him edit Misplaced Pages once again.--] (]) 13:26, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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Undeletion of file:Tom Smith, US Senate Candidate.png

Can you please help undelete the file that you deleted the other day. I just saw the discussion, and that it was deleted, yesterday.

The nominating user was later banned from deletion processes: banned and nominated for user deletion due to overzealous deletion practices. (Which was rejected)

I appeciate your help. Thank you. --Joetheguy (talk) 16:15, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Joetheguy. It doesn't matter that Bulwersator was the nominator; I was aware of who the nominator was and what his story was when I deleted the image. None of my deletions were done carelessly or without thorough investigation. The reason this particular file was deleted is because there's no evidence on the website that any of the material has been released into the public domain. Under United States copyright law, material is automatically copyright unless released under license or declared to be in the public domain. Campaign materials are not an exception to this law. What you will need to do is get permission of the photographer, and get an OTRS ticket in place on the file. Please refer to WP:Consent for instructions on how to get an OTRS ticket. -- Dianna (talk) 19:43, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I would appreciate it if you would revert the changes, pending a discussion, which never really happened. Even one picture on the main page of Misplaced Pages has a pending copyright determination status, as can be seen HERE. I have contacted the source of the image regarding the image status. Is it possible for you to revert the changes at all, or will the picture have to be re-uploaded from scratch no matter what? --Joetheguy (talk) 20:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
The place to go if you wish a review of the closure is to Misplaced Pages:Deletion review, where you can post to have the decision reviewed by experienced uninvolved administrators. They will be able to view the file, even without reversing the deletion. -- Dianna (talk) 21:24, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Your Valued Opinion Requested

Hi, Diannaa! As you know, I respect your copyediting skills and evaluation greatly, and I'm wondering if you could possibly take a glance at a little article I'm expanding (Bill Stewart (television journalist)) and give me your opinion on it. I'm not completely done with it yet and am still researching and culling unreferenced tidbits; and I must admit a slight "COI". He was a friend of the family, I met him as a youngster and witnessed the horrible killing on the nightly news. I don't think this sort of graphic footage would be aired today on the nightly news, but as Cronkite explained at the time, "Because it is an important documentation of the savagery of the Nicaraguan war, we will show this ABC News videotape with a warning that parents might not want their children to view it." Millions of kids remember seeing it :( I understand if you're busy and appreciate any time you could give to looking at this with the goal of advancement! Thanks :> Doc talk 10:58, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Doc! I have done some clean-up and copy editing. A good addition would be some more material on his early career, if any sources can be found. There's one paragraph in the "impact" section that's totally unsourced; it may be original research. I did not copy edit that paragraph, but marked it with a {{cn}} tag. -- Dianna (talk) 13:59, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you so much! The section you tagged will eventually get snipped and was there before I came along - good call :) I really appreciate your expert help: Bill Stewart was a good man that in no way deserved what happened to him. His story shouldn't be forgotten, and you've helped ensure a quality article. Cheers :> Doc talk 14:09, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

RevisionDelete please

Hello Diannaa. You are listed in the category. "Misplaced Pages administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests". Could you please delete two revisions for me, that I made in the article Tetseo Sisters. The problem is that I authored the article on my real name account and the two changes under this account should not be brought in connection with my real name. The last edit is ok again. --Gf1961 (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not sure why you need multiple accounts, and why you need to hide the fact that you have multiple accounts. And if it's for privacy concerns, why did you post here rather than sending me an email? I ask because I am not sure your reason for asking for the revision deletion is one that is allowed under the policy. -- Dianna (talk) 19:42, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi Dianaa. I use two accounts. One is a real name, one is more secretive. I accidentally edited with the secretive one and a connection can be drawn, for example by my employer. He would most certainly never find this edit, but might find the ones that are lined up on the article. As you see the real name edit is identical to the other one, so nothing ist lost, if you could hide the two made by account Gf1961. --217.190.5.247 (talk) 20:15, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
The page states: Hiding of a username or IP should only be used where that username or IP has a reason in and of itself to be hidden, such as accidentally editing logged out or an attack username. Sorry for causing workload. --217.190.5.247 (talk) 20:17, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 Done It's not the workload; I just wanted to confirm that the reason falls within policy. -- Dianna (talk) 22:07, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. I really appreciate very much. --217.190.5.156 (talk) 03:36, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for you help with regard to: Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree files/2012 September 5#File:UNC Chapel Hill Cornerstone.jpg. I appreciate it. Eric Cable  |  Talk  02:11, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. The mural might actually be PD, but this way we are covered. -- Dianna (talk) 02:56, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Possible personal info

Please see here where I commented out a message in which an IP seems to be giving a personal e-mail URL. Should this be permanently deleted? If so, please do so.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 02:43, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done -- This could be a valid email address, and nor necessarily that of the person who posted it. Thanks -- Dianna (talk) 02:56, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you! —Odysseus1479 (talk) 04:21, 23 September 2012 (UTC) Edited 04:25, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Imagine (song)

I've made a few edits to Imagine (song), and I think I am heading in the right direction. If you could find the time, please review the article as it now stands and give me some direction as to what it needs moving forward. Please post any suggestions you have at the article's talk page. Thanks and cheers! ~ GabeMc 22:18, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the comments and to clarify, I know there's housekeeping issues like citations stuff and copyediting that's needed. I was looking for more general, content advice, as to what you hope the article can cover. ~ GabeMc 04:30, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Manstein and Melvin

In this edit you have removed Smelser-cited text and streamlined the article to line up with Melvin. Why dump Smelser? Why the apparent over-reliance on Melvin? The topic is bigger than one author's viewpoint. Binksternet (talk) 04:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

The text I removed regards testimony he provided at Nuremberg, not at his own trial. I will re-incorporate it, but in the proper sequence of events. Some of the material needs further corroboration from other works, too, as Smelser's work seems over-sensationalised. There's a book that just got added to the collection at my library (Erich Von Manstein: Hitler's Master Strategist by Benoît Lemay) so I will get that later today and incorporate material from it throughout. There's still a long way to go yet. The whole trial section is way too long and presents as a wall of text, so I may move some of it to a separate new article. -- Dianna (talk) 14:04, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Smelser and Davies are heated in their prose but their analysis is significant and their facts are not wrong. I would like to see their main points and conclusions kept. Binksternet (talk) 23:53, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
Lemay is quite scathing in his conclusions too, and will serve to give some more balance. -- Dianna (talk) 01:36, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Looking forward to the solution... Binksternet (talk) 04:41, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 September 2012

Inquiry

Hi, your name was mentioned at Wikipedia_talk:RFA#Statistics_.28and_lies.3F.29, so I decided to stop by and see if you might be willing to answer a couple questions?

1. What motivates you to do a lot of deletions? Is it your primary manner of participation on Misplaced Pages or a smaller part of your overall work?

2. What sorts of things or interactions make your deletion work less pleasant? What sorts of changes or occurrences would make you less likely to perform the number of deletions you presently perform?

3. Do you have any suggestions on how the deletion process or conduct policies surrounding deletions could be improved to encourage greater admin participation?

Feel free to respond here or at WT:RFA, if you decide to respond. Thanks. MBisanz 15:55, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

The amount of deletions I do varies from month to month, as I tend to switch primary tasks quite often to help keep my interest level high. Deletions require a different mindset from writing or re-writing articles. It's a totally different kind of work requiring a different part of the brain. So when I am tired from writing, deletions are a good place to go. Mostly I work in file deletions. It's fun to work with images, especially the user-submitted photos. I started out working on non-controversial simple ones like F8s and F5s, and would leave and watch-list any I wasn't sure about, and then make a note of whether or not I agreed with how the closing admin handled the file. Over time I have become more and more familiar with our rules on freedom of panorama and fair use guidelines and copyright law, to the point where I started closing discussions at WP:PUF. Right now I am working on a case that involves copyright law, fair use, and Nazi Germany; I'm the perfect person for the job. Serendipitous. Since I have acquired a skill-set that allows me to do large numbers of deletions with few errors and few complaints from other users, it's more or less beholden on me to use those skills to help get the work done as best as possible. Another task I do sometimes is checking bot moves to the Commons; to do this task the checker has to be an admin on the sending wiki, so that they can look inside the deleted file and make sure everything arrived safely. There's presently over 61,000 transclusions of the {BotMoveToCommons} template, from all wikis. I have no idea how many of these are from our wiki. It's a simple task that's fun and easy to do, but only admins can do it, so I do it.

I think we have two kinds of admins: those who view it as a promotion, a way to level-up, a hat to collect. Then there's people who once they become an admin they realise that they are now one of the grownups in charge, and they are obliged to try to help in whatever ways best suit their temperament and skills (whether that be vandalism work, closing contentious discussions, or more gnomish stuff). So I think the best way to encourage admins to help out with deletions or any of the other admin tasks is to try to locate and elect the people who fit into the second category. How that would be done I'm not sure, as I am not very politically motivated. -- Dianna (talk) 22:03, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate your last point. Trying to separate those who seek authority for its own sake and those who seek it to be responsible participants seems to be a major problem. I suspect RFA's current method seeking diverse content-oriented contributions may not be the best way to separate those groups. MBisanz 16:32, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Diverse content-oriented contributors might not be the best people to be administrators. In fact it might be a waste of their particular skill-set, unless they are prepared to acquire new skills and spend at least part of each day doing admin tasks. The more people specialise, the fewer admins we will need, as there will be efficiencies gained by becoming highly skilled. Another thing: As the number of us who edit daily continues to shrink, the fewer admins we will need, as people get to know each other better and treat each other with more respect as neighbours and friends. This is already happening; I'm seeing the same few people over and over everywhere I go. -- Dianna (talk) 21:40, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Polly James (DJ)

How do i get in contact with you regarding a page you deleted? Graeme — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graeme Mullins (talkcontribs) 22:52, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Graeme. I have to assume you mean the page Polly James (DJ), and that you are interested in more details on why the page was deleted. I looked it over quite carefully and found that the subject of the article is not notable enough, as Misplaced Pages defines it, to qualify for an article. Notability would be indicated by references to the person in reliable third-party sources such as newspapers, magazines, or online material. I did a search and found no such material. The only citations in the article were to the websites of her agent, her radio station, and her own website. The article has now been deleted four times since 2010 by four different administrators, so I feel pretty confident that my decision was the correct one. Sorry. - Dianna (talk) 23:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the info, if you look at the station she works for, http://en.wikipedia.org/Absolute_Radio#Presenters she only one of two presenters without a page, what other information could we provide to keep the page active. Graeme Mullins (talk) 19:48, 30 September 2012 (GMT)

Looking at those other DJs, I see that several others, such as Russ Williams (DJ) and Pete Donaldson, don't (as presently sourced) meet Misplaced Pages notability guidelines either. Sorry. -- Dianna (talk) 19:45, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Is this one OK?

Hi Dianna. I'm wondering if the 2nd paragraph of Global Crossing#Post-2001 and 2002 bankruptcy filing might be sailing too close to the wind, if not right into the wind, in terms of uncited allegations of wrongdoing. What do you think? Simon. --Stfg (talk) 14:25, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

It is unsourced as it stands right now. The link at the bottom of the section is dead and it's been dead for a long time. I think it should be cleaned up. -- Dianna (talk) 15:26, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I've removed that paragraph and cleaned up some of the rest of the section as well. I also cleaned up the last two sections (Corporate spending and Political contributions), which were actually a bit gross. I've removed everything uncited. Could you look at those too, please? Someone has been using it rather as an attack page (the talk page shows the strength of feeling). There's still a lot that's uncited, but I'm hoping to have removed anything that might constitute attack. S. --Stfg (talk) 15:49, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
I will, but I have to go out right now. I will do it later -- Dianna (talk) 15:53, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the further copy edit you did. Looks much better now. --Stfg (talk) 09:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

IP socker Marburg72 back for round 3?.....15?....27?

166.147.72.150 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), left this for me on my talk page , from the same range you had to keep blocking a month or two back. Heiro 10:33, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Wow, note the fake admin signature. It's probably better to just revert without comment, as he probably gets a charge out of annoying you. Don't give him the satisfaction. This is actually a slightly different range, starting in mid-September. The three IPs I have collected so far make a really tight range so we will likely have to continue to collect information and broaden the range moving forward. This series appears to be assigned to a mobile device. -- Dianna (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Diannaa. You have new messages at WP: AIV.
Message added 17:43, 30 September 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Re: Lowsk712 (talk · contribs). Please see the account's edit filter log entries as they tripped the filter after my warning, and that is why I reported them. Also, please note that I reported it as a vandalism-only account, which it appears to be. Thank you! --v/r Electric Catfish (talk) 17:43, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I will check that out right away. - Dianna (talk) 17:47, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
The last edit was at 16:45 so I am still in favour of waiting. -- Dianna (talk) 17:54, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
The stuff in the edit filter is not so serious, school sucks, stuff like that. -- Dianna (talk) 18:04, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Help please?

Hi Dianna. I copy edited Tain, Shekhawati as part of the drive, and the article's creator has reverted the whole job with an edit summary saying "Reverting to the older and historically correct version". I think that my copy edit changed nothing of the history, and that this is a case of ownership. I don't like to interact with editors who do that sort of thing, especially as I'm not yet on an even keel about the wasted effort. Please would you take a look and see what is best to be done? By the way, User:Soulparadox has picked up on the re-inserted copyedit tag. I've sent them a heads up about this. Thanks, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 08:59, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Soulparadox only removed the copyedit tag and added GOCEinuse. The IP that reverted that action geolocates to Jaipur ;) --Stfg (talk) 10:05, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Simon. Sorry, I've been busy with RL stuff today. Torchiest has reverted to the copy-edited version, and I will put a note on Warriorking99's talk page as to why this is the right thing to do. Hope this helps. -- Dianna (talk)
Hi Dianna (and Torchiest -- I assume you're watching this page too). Yes, Torchiest's handling of it was very neat and so was your message to Warriorking99. Much better than me jumping in with involvement. Thank you both. --Stfg (talk) 22:39, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Reason to Believe

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GOCE September 2012 drive barnstars

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Dianna for copy editing 7 articles to a total of 26,134 words during the Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you both for your copy editing and for everything else you did to help the drive. --Stfg (talk) 15:49, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much! — Dianna (talk)

The Signpost: 01 October 2012

I think this was meant for you...

Hello Diannaa! This message was left on my talk page, but it was probably meant for you:

Thank you for your recent articles, including Trial of Erich von Manstein, which I read with interest. When you create an extensive and well referenced article, you may want to have it featured on Misplaced Pages's main page in the Did You Know section. Articles included there will be read by thousands of our viewers. To do so, add your article to the list at T:TDYK. Let me know if you need help, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 20:39, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Cheers, Constantine 20:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Constantine. I will give it a look. — Dianna (talk) 22:48, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of notable alumni on Preshil article.

Hi Diannaa,
I noticed that you deleted most of the notable alumni on the article for the alternative school Preshil, in Melbourne, Australia. I am challenging your deletion of these entries, as I believe that although those alumni may not have been properly source or have their own pages, within context, these alumni are actually very notable. As I could be considered a primary source on this issue, my view is that these entries should have been kept in the article while merely hidden from normal view.

I shall be re-instating these entries into said article (while keeping all relevant entries hidden until they can be properly sourced.

Regards,
SilvestertheCat (talk) 14:32, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Bob Hope

Congratulations!..Modernist (talk) 17:23, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, M! -- Dianna (talk) 18:44, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Third Prize - Core Contest
Congratulations for winning the August 2012 incarnation of the Core Contest! Your voucher will be on its way soon.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

D'oh! I am so sorry about that. I somehow got the wrong name in my head :/ ....congrats though this had a really engaging prose. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:58, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! -- Dianna (talk) 22:40, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

GOCE September 2012 drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 41 people who signed up this drive, 28 copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We achieved our primary goal of clearing July, August, September and October 2011 from the backlog. This means that, for the first time since the drives began, the backlog is less than a year. At least 677 tagged articles were copy edited, although 365 new ones were added during the month. The total backlog at the end of the month was 2341 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We completed all 54 requests outstanding before September 2012 as well as eight of those made in September.

Copy Edit of the Month: Voting is now over for the August 2012 competition, and prizes will be issued soon. The September 2012 contest is closed for submissions and open for voting. The October 2012 contest is now open for submissions. Everyone is welcome to submit entries and to vote.

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The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012

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The PD-100 tag on County Mayo

If the photographer was 30 years old in 1890 and died at the age of 90 (which would be in 1950), it is just 62 years after "life of author." The term is ambiguous, but per the template definition refers to the death-year. For unknown photographers, seems unlikely any photo will benefit from the tag, since we are talking of a potential 170 or 180 years in the past here. Yeah, the whole thing is a pain. Churn and change (talk) 03:05, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Yikes, it looks like my math was wrong :( We might have to delete it after all, or convert to fair-use. Hopefully Giano will respond and tell us where he got the image. The file is currently in use in a userspace draft. -- Dianna (talk) 03:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC) I don't think it qualifies for fair use in the user-space draft, and the user has retired, so the article may never be moved into main space. -- Dianna (talk) 03:46, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

I do know what is going on with Samofi

Samofi's latest message at his own talk page was so devoid of common sense that it left me astonished. Frankly, this is precisely the sort of behaviour which makes the English Misplaced Pages an unpleasant place to work. First of all, he isn't only banned from editing Misplaced Pages for an indefinite duration, but there is even a topic ban he is placed under, which prohibits him making any contributions in Misplaced Pages that pertains to Hungarian and/or Slovakian ethnic and national disputes, likewise for an indefinite duration .

As for "It looks like a spamming and nationalistic agenda ...", it constitutes Misplaced Pages:Harassment as well as the downright violation of his valid topic ban. However, since he is already blocked from editing, I have no way to ask an administrator to make amends for this harassment by blocking the user.
As for "I have noticed a lot of POV pushing from problematic (lot of times blocked user - Nmate", it is him who should hold his row concerning this matter; for GOD's sake, this is a twofold indef-blocked user who is banned from editing each article that covers his only one interesting field in Misplaced Pages, and even a former(?) sockpuppeter in addition. I do not think that I should take the blame for anything this user says.

In case, he were to receive an unblock given him for an indefinite duration, and in addition; he were to manage to even convince the Arbitration Comitee about the fact that his topic ban that covers his only one interesting field in Misplaced Pages should be lifted, he would still be unable to make useful contributions in Misplaced Pages because of his poor command of English. As a native speaker of English, you can also recognize that none of his sentences is written in grammatically correct English.

You Diannaa told "The best way forward if you wish to open an arbitration case or discuss your block is to contact the Arbitration Committee at arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org". I augur that it won't help. I regret to inform you that it is not possibe to send any messages to the Arbitration Comitee directly. Any messages of this sort are riddled by moderators who take decision on forwarding them to the Arbitration Committee. Unfortunately I received a rather senseless block in last October. When I was blocked, I did all I could to appeal it including sending emails to the Arbitration Comitee to which I failed to receive an answer. Also, Samofi is free to initiate a discussion his unblock, however, I wouldn't dare to lay a wager on his success. With his past, he can hardly offer anything to be cogent enough for the community to let him edit Misplaced Pages once again.--Nmate (talk) 13:26, 6 October 2012 (UTC)