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kindly do not move my post from under DrKiernan's; I was replying to him, not you, and you changed the context; that's called ]. ] (]) 21:51, 7 October 2012 (UTC) | kindly do not move my post from under DrKiernan's; I was replying to him, not you, and you changed the context; that's called ]. ] (]) 21:51, 7 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
:You moved my two separate replies around, from where the reply to him under his comment and my reply to you under yours, to being both under yours. That's why I reverted you, and that was clear in my edit summary. There was no intent for disruption, and actually I felt you were the one disrupting me. ''']''' <sup>''']'''</sup> 21:56, 7 October 2012 (UTC) | :You moved my two separate replies around, from where the reply to him under his comment and my reply to you under yours, to being both under yours. That's why I reverted you, and that was clear in my edit summary. There was no intent for disruption, and actually I felt you were the one disrupting me. ''']''' <sup>''']'''</sup> 21:56, 7 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
:: I {{diff|User talk:Fry1989|516533255|516532998|replied to DrKiernan}}; you {{diff|User talk:Fry1989|516533845|516533255|moved my reply}} in a level under a new reply of yours to DrKiernan, making it appear as if I was replying to you. I {{diff|User talk:Fry1989|516534312|516533845|fixed the threading}} and you {{diff|User talk:Fry1989|516534474|516534312|reverted me}}. I {{diff|User talk:Fry1989|516535863|516535571|restored my post to it's original location}} and explained further, leaving your post askew. I'm going to support indefing you. ] (]) 22:10, 7 October 2012 (UTC) |
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Discussions ↓↓↓
Dry counties map
You might want to change the dry counties map to reflect changes in Virginia. This is the most recent ABC report mentioning dry counties in Virginia. Artsygeek (talk) 05:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- I will work on it when I can, thanks for the link. Fry1989 21:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Request
I would be grateful if you would stop your campaign of cross-wiki harassment. I have stopped commenting on you at this site, and even supported your unblock, but you have repaid that kindness by following me around commons, reverting my edits there without explanation while tagging the revert as minor, nominating the files I uploaded for deletion, and calling me names. Please stop it. DrKiernan (talk) 20:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
The lifting of the prior indef was obviously inappropriate and it should be restored. Enough is enough, as they say. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 20:16, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Br'er Rabbit, it was nothing of the sort, you can't block me for actions on a different project, Commons and Misplaced Pages English are completely different places (besides the fact there is absolutely no proof of "cross-wiki harassment"). Drkiernan, I don't like you and you don't like me, you've called me names and I've done the same. I have a right to my opinion and it's not gonna change, but the both of you know I have completely obeyed my restrictions for an unblock on Misplaced Pages English. Fry1989 20:58, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Also how I mark my edits is my own business, but if you MUST know, I have my user settings on Commons to automatically mark my edits as minor. If you don't like that option, take it up with the programmers of Commons, but it's my right to put my settings how I want them. Also I don't follow you (or anyone else for that matter) around, every day I go through the new files log on both Commons and Misplaced Pages English, I happened to come across Trajan's files yesterday, and looking at their history I saw what you did. You added a *fictitious* tag to them with absolutely no proof, and now you're nominating them for deletion just because Trajan removed your tag a further two times. As for the link to the nomination I made on one of your uploads, what Drkiernan isn't telling people who see this is that after his file was deleted, he uploaded it a second time, instead of the proper process of a UnDeletion Request. It was deleted a second time because of the improper process, and then he uploaded it locally to English Misplaced Pages and forced it on all the pages the Commons file was used, just to get his way, instead of talking it out on Commons and getting a consensus (which there now is, and I've left the issue alone since!) You act this way, people have a right to their opinions about it. That's all I have to say on the matter. Fry1989 21:04, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- There was an undeletion request : it found in my favor. DrKiernan (talk) 21:26, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- There's nothing wrong with marking fictitious coats of arms as fictitious, or nominating files not useful for an encyclopedic purpose for deletion. Stop following me around and opposing me at every opportunity just because you hate me. DrKiernan (talk) 21:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I DON'T FOLLOW YOU AROUND! I've already made it clear that I check the upload logs daily for new files which pertain to my interests and knowledge (coats of arms, flags, signs...). If you wanna to continue assuming I'm following you around, that's your own insecurity. I don't hate you for just any reason (infact hate is a strong word), I dislike you because of the way we have interacted over 2 years. You've pushed me, you've bullied me, you've been rude to me, and I am tired of it. Suddenly when I push back just a little, I'm the one with a "cross-wiki harassment campaign", even though the fact remains that whenever there has been consensus on an issue I walk away, and that Trajan contacted me asking for my input on the DR you created, I wasn't even aware of it until he did, and I simply stated my personal opinion on my talk page. You're the one who always follows me to see what I have to say. Fry1989 21:19, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- You followed me to the three coats of arms. You followed me to the deletion request. You edited all the pages after me, so I'm obviously not following you. You are following me. I'm asking you to avoid me, please. DrKiernan (talk) 21:26, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think ANI review of Fry's continued participation is in order. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 21:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Again, I DID NOT FOLLOW YOU', every file that is uploaded or is changed shows up in the upload log. I go through them every day. Trajan's files were new, so I of course came across them. The fact that I clicked on them, saw the fictitious tag and went to the file history to see why it was there, then removed it, does not make me the stalker you're trying to paint me as. It could just as easily have been any other user on Commons who added the tag and I still would have removed it if there was no proof of the files' fitionality. You admitted in your own edit summaries the shields are true, and I've stated in the DR that I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume the shields came with a full achievement. You don't have any more proof they're fake than we do they're real at the moment, and a fictitious tag is a serious thing, it needs proof. Fry1989 21:35, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- What the hell for? I have done absolutely nothing on English Misplaced Pages since my unblock, my checking the upload logs perfectly explains why I came across the files, and Trajan ASKED ME for my input in the DR. What was I supposed to do, say no? I removed Drkiernan's fictitious tags once, I haven't done anything to the files since. Trajan removed the tag a further two times, which is when Drkiernan nominated them for deletion. I was completely unaware of it until after Trajan asked me to have my say in the DR, and the time-stamps prove that. Fry1989 21:35, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Br'er Rabbit, you're really gonna try and do a lynch mob on English Misplaced Pages when I have done NOTHING on here that breaks my unblock restrictions, and I've had no interaction with Drkiernan here on English Misplaced Pages either since then, just because I reverted one of his edits on Commons once (where I am not under any sort of restriction and even earned file mover rights), and happened to state my dislike of him on my own talk page, after I was ASKED by another user for my participation??? That makes utterly no sense. Fry1989 21:35, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- You followed me to the three coats of arms. You followed me to the deletion request. You edited all the pages after me, so I'm obviously not following you. You are following me. I'm asking you to avoid me, please. DrKiernan (talk) 21:26, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I DON'T FOLLOW YOU AROUND! I've already made it clear that I check the upload logs daily for new files which pertain to my interests and knowledge (coats of arms, flags, signs...). If you wanna to continue assuming I'm following you around, that's your own insecurity. I don't hate you for just any reason (infact hate is a strong word), I dislike you because of the way we have interacted over 2 years. You've pushed me, you've bullied me, you've been rude to me, and I am tired of it. Suddenly when I push back just a little, I'm the one with a "cross-wiki harassment campaign", even though the fact remains that whenever there has been consensus on an issue I walk away, and that Trajan contacted me asking for my input on the DR you created, I wasn't even aware of it until he did, and I simply stated my personal opinion on my talk page. You're the one who always follows me to see what I have to say. Fry1989 21:19, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Also how I mark my edits is my own business, but if you MUST know, I have my user settings on Commons to automatically mark my edits as minor. If you don't like that option, take it up with the programmers of Commons, but it's my right to put my settings how I want them. Also I don't follow you (or anyone else for that matter) around, every day I go through the new files log on both Commons and Misplaced Pages English, I happened to come across Trajan's files yesterday, and looking at their history I saw what you did. You added a *fictitious* tag to them with absolutely no proof, and now you're nominating them for deletion just because Trajan removed your tag a further two times. As for the link to the nomination I made on one of your uploads, what Drkiernan isn't telling people who see this is that after his file was deleted, he uploaded it a second time, instead of the proper process of a UnDeletion Request. It was deleted a second time because of the improper process, and then he uploaded it locally to English Misplaced Pages and forced it on all the pages the Commons file was used, just to get his way, instead of talking it out on Commons and getting a consensus (which there now is, and I've left the issue alone since!) You act this way, people have a right to their opinions about it. That's all I have to say on the matter. Fry1989 21:04, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Your unblock conditions stipulate that you must refrain from commenting on individual editors anywhere except at the appropriate behavioral noticeboards. You have broken that condition. DrKiernan (talk) 21:43, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Those restrictions are for English Misplaced Pages, and you know I have followed those restrictions to the letter. No where does it say it applies to all projects, and the very idea that Misplaced Pages admins could set rules for Commons, a completely separate project, is foreign to me. I am not under any restrictions on Commons, fact. I was asked to participate in that DR by the files' uploader, fact. I didn't follow you around, I checked the upload logs like I do every day, fact. I've done nothing here that breaches my editing restrictions or that warrants an incident report. 21:49, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not talking about commons. I'm talking about this page (where you obviously talk about me above) and my talk page (where you said I was "incredibly childish" and "obviously have no faith in " and that I was "lazy" and "wrong"). DrKiernan (talk) 21:54, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- Everything I have said about you on this page was civil. What part do you feel was not? The part where I said that if you continue to believe I'm following you around when I had a perfectly good (and true) explanation for why I encountered the files, that's your own insecurity? I didn't even call you insecure, I said if you choose to believe I'm following you after my explanation, that would be your own insecurity. As for my comments on your page some time ago, again those used qualifiers which made it absolutely clear that you are choosing a course of action over another, I never directly called you "lazy" or anything else for that matter. You told me to do work for you, and I refused. I said stop being lazy (which is a qualifier) and telling me to do your work for you. The entire quote which you are ignoring shows that I felt your choice of telling me to do something for you when you're capabale of doing it yourself, is a lazy action. You know I found the action objectionable, you had no right to tell me to do it for you, I made it clear I wouldn't stand in your way if you did it yourself, and you refused saying you don't believe me. That was your choice. Fry1989 22:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not talking about commons. I'm talking about this page (where you obviously talk about me above) and my talk page (where you said I was "incredibly childish" and "obviously have no faith in " and that I was "lazy" and "wrong"). DrKiernan (talk) 21:54, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have avoided Drkiernan here on English Misplaced Pages for this entire reason, every little interaction between me and him blows up into a war. All I did was remove your tags on those files (which weren't even your files in the first place, it's not like I'm hunting for all your uploads) once. I haven't had anything to do with them since. Trajan asked me for input in the DR, and now Br'er Rabbit wants to call that "continued participation" and a reason for an incident report??? HE ASKED ME TO COMMENT!!!! And I only commented once, I had my say, and I again haven't had anything to do with the files since. Everything that happens between me and Drkiernan blows out of proportion. Fry1989 22:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
kindly do not move my post from under DrKiernan's; I was replying to him, not you, and you changed the context; that's called wp:disruptive editing. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 21:51, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- You moved my two separate replies around, from where the reply to him under his comment and my reply to you under yours, to being both under yours. That's why I reverted you, and that was clear in my edit summary. There was no intent for disruption, and actually I felt you were the one disrupting me. Fry1989 21:56, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- I replied to DrKiernan; you moved my reply in a level under a new reply of yours to DrKiernan, making it appear as if I was replying to you. I fixed the threading and you reverted me. I restored my post to it's original location and explained further, leaving your post askew. I'm going to support indefing you. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 22:10, 7 October 2012 (UTC)