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			This RfC opened on September 1 and on 4 October by Nathan Johnson after a request here. Noetica has twice reverted the closure, asking that an admin close it, so this is a request that an admin endorse or overturn Nathan's closure.

			The RfC was about this sentence: "An overriding principle is that style and formatting choices should be consistent within an article, though not necessarily throughout Misplaced Pages as a whole." The question is whether the words "though not necessarily throughout Misplaced Pages as a whole" should be removed or retained.

			Thirty people responded:
			*Thirteen supported the removal of those words: Noetica, 86.160.221.242, SMcCandlish, Ohconfucius, Boson, Dicklyon, Tony, Neotarf, Mirokado, Br'er Rabbit, 128.127.107.10, 87.79.226.106, and Rreagan007.
			*Seventeen opposed the removal: Enric Naval, Quiddity, Amatulić, Binksternet, Shenme, Darkfrog24, jc37, CBM, Peter coxhead, Beyond My Ken, JIMp, Resolute, Hiding, 87.112.91.134, Jayron32, WhatamIdoing, and myself.

			Many thanks, ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 16:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:List of castles in Belgium#RfC: What word should we use for châteaus/manor houses/kasteel? Does using the word 'castle' for these even make sense?

Would an admin assess the consensus at Talk:List of castles in Belgium#RfC: What word should we use for châteaus/manor houses/kasteel? Does using the word 'castle' for these even make sense? (initiated 3 August 2012)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Isle of Wight Academy#RFC regarding mention of segregation academy in lead paragraph, parallel version of history

Would an admin assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Isle of Wight Academy#RFC regarding mention of segregation academy in lead paragraph, parallel version of history (initiated 8 August 2012)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Persian gardens – Three merge requests

The Persian gardens article has three merge requests tagged on it since August 2011. Requesting assessment and closure. Northamerica1000 14:25, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Note that this refers to three articles that have been proposed for merger into this article; it's not being proposed for merger into three others. Nyttend (talk) 02:27, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Done MBisanz 18:46, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Reincarnation research#Merge proposal

RfC has ended. Needs admin closure. (note canvassing issues etc) IRWolfie- (talk) 19:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Muhammad Iqbal#Poet of the East

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Muhammad Iqbal#Poet of the East and Talk:Muhammad Iqbal#Poet of the East 2? Please consider making the second section a subsection of the first since the two sections are related and then hatting both sections when making a close. The discussion was initiated on 13 August 2012 to determine whether to call Iqbal "The poet of the East". The discussion has run its course, and I would like an uninvolved editor to assess the consensus in the discussion which "adds a degree of finality to it". Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Taylor Swift discography#Can we get a consensus please?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Taylor Swift discography#Can we get a consensus please?? The discussion was initiated 26 August 2012 to determine with regard to Taylor Swift what qualifies as an official single and what qualifies as a promotional single? The discussion has run its course, and I would like an uninvolved editor to assess the consensus in the discussion which "adds a degree of finality to it". Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Done MBisanz 18:52, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Syrian civil war#Infobox - combatants

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Syrian civil war#Infobox - combatants? The discussion was initiated 2 September 2012 to determine whether to include in the infobox a section on countries which provide non-lethal/humanitarian aid. The discussion has run its course, and I would like an uninvolved editor to assess the consensus in the discussion which "adds a degree of finality to it". Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Done MBisanz 22:40, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Axis occupation of Vojvodina#RfC:Is this article subject notable, and if so, is it an acceptable fork of existing articles?

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Axis occupation of Vojvodina#RfC:Is this article subject notable, and if so, is it an acceptable fork of existing articles?? The discussion was initiated 12 August 2012 to determine the applicability of the guidelines Misplaced Pages:Notability and Misplaced Pages:Content forking to it. The discussion has run its course, and I would like an uninvolved editor to assess the consensus in the discussion which "adds a degree of finality to it". Regardless of the discussion's result ("no consensus", "merge/redirect", or "do not merge/redirect"), a close will establish a clear status quo about the article's state and avoid future edit wars about the topic. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

non-admin closure Churn and change (talk) 20:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Control (2007 film)#Join Hands and The Idiot

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Control (2007 film)#Join Hands and The Idiot? The discussion was initiated 13 August 2012 to determine whether a fact should be mentioned in the article's plot summary. At Talk:Control (2007 film)#RfC, Carliertwo (talk · contribs) wrote, "This is about two parts that used to be in the plot : Join Hands and The idiot. They were both present for more than 1 year but were withdrawn by the same person." I have not verified whether the information has been in the article for one year, but if this is correct, it should be considered in the close if the result is "no consensus". Is the status quo to retain the material because it has been in the article for one year, or is there another status quo? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Done MBisanz 22:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Crimean Karaites#Proposed renaming of article

Rename discussion, opened thirty days ago. There has been a lot of silliness on this talk page with inserting new comments in between old ones, moving entire sections around, objections to simple things like archiving five-year-old discussions, etc. I've been trying to play referee but somebody else should probably close this so I don't appear to be taking sides with regard to all the other nonsense. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:52, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Much appreciated Beeblebrox. Kaz 13:13, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Hollywood Squares#Requested move

This has been opened for too long, and it is no longer listed in WP:requested moves. Nevertheless, it is still open. --George Ho (talk) 22:55, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Done MBisanz 02:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Occupation_and_illegal_annexation_of_the_Baltic_states_by_the_Soviet_Union_(1940)#Requested_move

I think there is a consensus to move. There is some discussion, but it leads to nowhere. My very best wishes (talk) 02:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (Vietnamese)#RfC on spelling and Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (Vietnamese)#Other options

Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (Vietnamese)#RfC on spelling (initiated 18 July 2012) and Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (Vietnamese)#Other options? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

The discussion seems to have been renamed to Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (Vietnamese)#RfC on spelling. Cunard (talk) 00:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RFC: Names with diacritics and other non-ASCII letters: Should we permit, require, or prohibit ASCIIfied versions?

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive765#BLP edit warring on British Jews

Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive765#BLP edit warring on British Jews, particularly the section at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive765#Proposal: User:Bus stop topic-banned from Jewish categorisation, broadly construed. After closing the discussion, consider moving it back to WP:ANI so the community is aware of the decision. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Geo Swan and AfDs

Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Geo Swan and AfDs? There are three proposals there: (i) Proposal to slow down a bit at AfD, (ii) Proposal to topic ban Geo Swan, and (iii) Proposal to refer to Arbcom. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

The whole thread was moved on September 5 to a subpage at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/GeoSwan and AFDs. There were two further comments that day, but nothing since then. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the link to the discussion. In addition to assessing the proposals, a findings of fact and advice like TParis (talk · contribs) provided at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive767#TenPoundHammer, AfD and WP:IDONTUNDERSTANDIT would be very helpful in summarizing the discussion. Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines#Proposal: Character notability guidelines

Would an admin assess the consensus at the RfC at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines#Proposal: Character notability guidelines (initiated 3 August 2012)? There is a request to close the RfC at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines#Close this RfC?. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:52, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#Additions to the sidebar

Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#Additions to the sidebar (initiated 9 August 2012)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Too late. The discussion has been archived at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 92#Additions_to_the_sidebar. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:00, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Because the RfC has been archived, there are two methods to implement the close: (i) Move the discussion back to the talk page and close it and (ii) Close the discussion, keeping it in the talk page archive, and announce the result on the talk page. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Not done There is a slight hint at consensus to adding the Teahouse link (13-6), but the overall sample is small and there were still issues to discuss relative to Teahouse v. Helpdesk. Suggest a new RFC on its own page. MBisanz 22:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Record charts#Bubbling Under

Would an admin assess the consensus at the RfC at Misplaced Pages talk:Record charts#Bubbling Under. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RFC: Names with diacritics and other non-ASCII letters: Should we permit, require, or prohibit ASCIIfied versions?

Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RFC: Names with diacritics and other non-ASCII letters: Should we permit, require, or prohibit ASCIIfied versions? (initiated 23 July 2012)? See also the comment at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RfC closure: "Time to ask an uninvolved admin to close this RfC?" Thanks, Cunard (talk) 07:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Categorization of persons

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Categorization of persons? Please also consider John Carter (talk · contribs)'s comment at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for comment/Categorization of persons#Possible wrapup:

I think that it would make sense, sometime in the future, to have the request for comment here be gone over by someone, possibly uninvolved, who could "boil down" the various comments into clear proposals.

This could facilitate a Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Categorization of persons 2, which would have a clearer scope and outcome. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#Orange fixit box on mainpage

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#Orange fixit box on mainpage? The discussion was initiated 25 August 2012. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Done MBisanz 22:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#KISS image filter

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#KISS image filter? The discussion was initiated 29 August 2012 and the most recent comment was 19 September 2012. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Not done auto-archived as stale and, in any event, there was no clear consensus in either direction. MBisanz 18:59, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Teahouse#Welcome template discussion

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:Teahouse#Welcome template discussion? The discussion was initiated 16 August 2012 and asked editors to determine whether the Teahouse be listed on the standard welcome templates. It was listed at and archived from Template:Centralized discussion. The final comment in the thread was:

Input seems to have slowed down, if not actually stopped, on this discussion. It appears many people would support adding the link, but would prefer adding the Teahouse welcome to Twinkle, and of those who oppose adding the link, many support adding the Teahouse welcome to Twinkle. It may be best to start a new Rfc with three choices; Add teahouse link to Welcome, Add Teahouse welcome to Twinkle, and Do neither. Thoughts? KillerChihuahua 20:20, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

If there is no consensus for any course of action, perhaps a closer could summarize the principles in the discussion and initiate a new RfC as outlined by KillerChihuahua. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Done MBisanz 18:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Archive 129#RFC: shall changes in beginning of sentence case be allowed in quotations?

Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Archive 129#RFC: shall changes in beginning of sentence case be allowed in quotations? (initiated 24 July 2012)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 22:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

This needs to run another few days or so, imo. I'll consider closing after it's been open for 30 days. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:41, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I requested an early closure only because the discussion was archived by MiszaBot II (talk · contribs) owing to inactivity. Should it be unarchived for further discussion until 23 August 2012? Cunard (talk) 17:44, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Good point. Yes, I would recommend unarchiving so that it can have 30 days. If there were greater participation, I would have no problem closing it early, but it's easy to question the legitimacy of an RfC that had low participation and was closed early. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:54, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Discussion unarchived to Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#RFC: shall changes in beginning of sentence case be allowed in quotations?. The RfC can be closed in about two days. Cunard (talk) 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

The discussion has now been archived again to Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Archive 129#RFC: shall changes in beginning of sentence case be allowed in quotations?. Cunard (talk) 06:58, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Because the RfC has been archived, there are two methods to implement the close: (i) Move the discussion back to the talk page and close it and (ii) Close the discussion, keeping it in the talk page archive, and announce the result on the talk page. I asked HJ Mitchell (talk · contribs) to review the discussion at User talk:HJ Mitchell/Archive 71#Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#RFC: shall changes in beginning of sentence case be allowed in quotations? on 26 August 2012 but he was unable to do so because he was busy. He remains busy with Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for comment/Abortion article titles, so I think it would be fine if another user closes the discussion. Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

non-admin closure Churn and change (talk) 23:51, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Er, but not using either i) or ii). I just wasted half an hour trying to figure out wtf did this come from, as it was closed in the archive and then moved to the talk page already closed. I am going to simply move it back to the archive and provide a link. Apteva (talk) 03:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Due to the size of the archive (over 600k) it was moved to Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Archive 130#RFC: shall changes in beginning of sentence case be allowed in quotations?. Apteva (talk) 03:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Move review/Log/2012 September 13#Tenedos

Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Move review/Log/2012 September 13#Tenedos? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I'd love to! ;) Drmies (talk) 02:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Kurmaa

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Kurmaa (initiated 24 August 2012)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Done MBisanz 19:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Wikiwatcher1

Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Wikiwatcher1 (initiated 6 August 2012)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:50, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Done. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:13, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive239#What happens to proposals that...

Per the request at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive239#What happens to proposals that..., would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 92#Differentiating reference syntax in the editing window.?

A summation of the consensus before initiating a new RfC with more exposure would be helpful.

Note to closing editor - An RfC has already been started on the topic (by myself) upon the recommendation of the editors at the AN discussion. The opinion of the closing editor is likely to be factored into the RfC. I, Jethrobot (note: not a bot!) 03:23, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Done at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for comment/Syntax differentiation in editing window. MBisanz 22:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Good article reassessment/Bommarillu/1

I believe that this was closed incorrectly, because Talk:Bommarillu shows that the discussion is still open after a years time. BollyJeff | talk 16:40, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

..or maybe the header at Talk:Bommarillu was not updated properly after the reassessment. I think that 'no consensus' may mean the same as 'keep' in this context. BollyJeff | talk 19:07, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Memento

Tag removed 28/9, last support/oppose comment (outside of some discussion yesterday) was 24/9. Thanks! Andrew Gray (talk) 09:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Done MBisanz 22:58, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#RfC: Internal consistency versus consistency across articles

This RfC opened on September 1 and was closed on 4 October by Nathan Johnson after a request here. Noetica has twice reverted the closure, asking that an admin close it, so this is a request that an admin endorse or overturn Nathan's closure.

The RfC was about this sentence: "An overriding principle is that style and formatting choices should be consistent within an article, though not necessarily throughout Misplaced Pages as a whole." The question is whether the words "though not necessarily throughout Misplaced Pages as a whole" should be removed or retained.

Thirty people responded:

Thirteen supported the removal of those words: Noetica, 86.160.221.242, SMcCandlish, Ohconfucius, Boson, Dicklyon, Tony, Neotarf, Mirokado, Br'er Rabbit, 128.127.107.10, 87.79.226.106, and Rreagan007.
Seventeen opposed the removal: Enric Naval, Quiddity, Amatulić, Binksternet, Shenme, Darkfrog24, jc37, CBM, Peter coxhead, Beyond My Ken, JIMp, Resolute, Hiding, 87.112.91.134, Jayron32, WhatamIdoing, and myself.

Many thanks, SlimVirgin 16:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 September 9#Genus navboxes (2)

has been open for quite some time now, and the discussion appears to be dead. Frietjes (talk) 23:48, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Done by De728631. MBisanz 19:04, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 September 11#Category:Organizations that oppose LGBT rights

Open for nearly three weeks, last comment was over a week ago. Consensus seems pretty clear, but an official result would be helpful so that we can start talking implementation. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:22, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Douglas Anthony Cooper

Open for more than a week with some possible sock/meat issues. Fayedizard came in and did some major work to the article to address some concerns. I do not see any remaining delete votes at this time, but it would be better to have someone uninvolved close. Thanks in advance! --No unique names 15:45, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Premature close requests

Thanks to closers

Thank you, Drmies (talk · contribs), Beeblebrox (talk · contribs), TParis (talk · contribs), and Jafeluv (talk · contribs), for your RfC closes. Although the previous section was moved to Misplaced Pages talk:Administrators' noticeboard#Comments from Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure main page, I'd rather place the thank you note here so it will be more visible to RfC closers. Cunard (talk) 07:21, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

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