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RFC/U
I think you read wrong. I wasn't blocked for bad faith XFDs. I was blocked for prank nominations on April Fools' Day — and the block came two hours after I had stopped making any more prank nominations anyway, causing it to be promptly overturned. Those are not the same thing. Ten Pound Hammer • 17:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- I suppose that vandalism is usually considered to be a prank by its perpetrators. Note the first entry in WP:VANDTYPES: "Bad-faith placing of non-content tags such as {{afd}}, {{delete}}, {{sprotected}}, or other tags on pages that do not meet such criteria." Warden (talk) 09:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Again, pranking on a day known for pranking across the whole wiki ≠ bad faith. I think it's clear I was doing them in good faith. Ten Pound Hammer • 18:17, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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Academic Spring
My good Colonel, articles on the Academic Spring were all over Financial Times last week. Many of our elite friends like to large it up about their commitment to academic values, but it comes as no surprise that it took a true scholar like yourself to create an article on this important topic. Thank you! FeydHuxtable (talk) 10:49, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome. I was surprised that such a headline topic had not been touched yet. Your additions have given the topic another good push and I have given it the once-over again. The topic will only fully mature when we have some historical perspective but, at the rate these things go now, that should only take a few years. It could be that paper journals will be joining Britannica quite soon... Warden (talk) 12:33, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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For your creation of the article Academic Spring Rangoon11 (talk) 18:42, 16 April 2012 (UTC) |
- Thank you - I shall add it to my collection. I hoped that the topic would be of interest to Wikipedians and it is good to see this working out. Warden (talk) 08:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- It's an interesting and important topic and one which is much deserving of a WP article. For what it's worth I also can't help but think that such trends are not just inevitable but on balance a positive development. Rangoon11 (talk) 12:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the barnstar! Much appreciated!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:53, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Aircraft graffiti (2nd nomination)
I thought it would be polite to tell you that I have nominated Aircraft graffiti for deletion. The discussion can be found by clicking on the title of this message.
Op47 (talk) 13:28, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks; that's most gentil. Warden (talk) 20:27, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
List of trains run by Indian Railways
What is your policy based reason for keeping "List of trains run by Indian Railways"?--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:31, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:PRESERVE. I shall respond further at the AFD. Warden (talk) 09:09, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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A barnstar for your significant and laborious work on the List of trains run by Indian Railways article, through which the article has been significantly improved and brought up to Misplaced Pages's standards. Thank you for your efforts to improve the encyclopedia for the public. Northamerica1000 23:03, 24 April 2012 (UTC) |
Pakistani village life
Just a note, I've been working on improving this article. Since you've done the same, please feel free to continue, if you have available time/interest in contributing more. Northamerica1000 07:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for picking this up. I think we've done enough for now but I'll keep my eyes open for more material. Warden (talk) 09:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Lady's navel
The Resilient Barnstar | |
Ur a good egg Colonel. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:21, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
- A good egg? Is that another type of pastry? No, I understand and thank you for your compliment. Warden (talk) 17:25, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
I would rather fancy a Lady's navel to bite into..♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:49, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- We are spoilt for choice. I'm reading up on nuns' bellies now (barrigas de freiras) and find that there's another Portuguese dish called "bacon from heaven" (toucinho do ceu). Hmm... Warden (talk) 18:00, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
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Many thanks for the notification about the barn star
Many thanks indeed for the notification about the barn star. This is the first time it has ever happened to me in all my years of editing Misplaced Pages, and has helped to make my year, so a million thanks! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:19, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback
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Thank you, Colonel Warden, for your feedback at my RFA. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC) |
Orville
The Barnstar of Good Humor | |
This comment was hilarious. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:14, 8 June 2012 (UTC) |
- Thank you. For more LOLcats, see cats in popular culture... Warden (talk) 20:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
KunstRAI
Hi: I have just seen that you had Orville (cat) userfied. I created an article on the art fair yesterday - with about a line and a half on the Orvillecopter. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:31, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well done. Great minds think alike, eh? Warden (talk) 20:27, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Peeves
See User talk:Uncle G#Doffer. Uncle G (talk) 14:20, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for participating in my RFA! I appreciate your support. Zagalejo^^^ 06:24, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Lion Brewery (Hartlepool)
I've had a request to merge Lion Brewery (Hartlepool) and Camerons Brewery. As you contested an earlier merge proposal I wondered if you still had any objections. SilkTork 16:22, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
- I have been watching Farrtj's updates to the company article but didn't want to disturb his additions to it. I still prefer to have a separate page for the brewery building, like we have for Ringwood Brewery, for example. Warden (talk) 17:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
- I assume you mean that Ringwood is not merged with Marstons. Ringwood has a notability and a history entirely independent of Marstons. Lion Brewery, however, is the building for the Camerons Brewery, and the history is shared. The building's notability is entirely dependent on that of the owner Cameron. Cameron took over a brewing company in 1865 - the name of the company was the Lion Brewery, and Cameron kept the name for his brewery building. The building which exists today under that name was actually built by Cameron in 1892 - so the original company ceased in 1865, and the original building ceased in 1865. I am wondering if you are under the impression that Lion brewery is a brewing company rather than the name for Camerons brewing building, and you think that Cameron took over the Lion Brewery in the same way that Marston took over Ringwood. It's worth noting that the building in which brewing takes places is called a Brewery, and the company which does the brewing is called a Brewery, and that they often have different names. The company Camerons Brewery brews in a building called Lion Brewery. SilkTork 19:31, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I will proceed with the merge unless you have continued objections. SilkTork 07:54, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
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Undid close
I undid your close here Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Skeptoid_(2nd_nomination). We don't ignore the merge vs keep arguments just because there at AfD. The closing admin can weigh these up as well and see where the consensus lies. IRWolfie- (talk) 10:21, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
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- Colonel, it was suggested in that (now-closed) threat that you refrain from closing possibly contentious AfDs. I think that's a good idea. Happy days, Drmies (talk) 18:08, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Re: Clay Boland
Thanks Warden! I came across the The Jazz Bass Book - Technique and Tradition in Google Books when I entered the search "too good to be true" "roy eldridge". That's also how I found the Roy Eldridge, Little Jazz Giant book, although that source required a few extra steps since it only offered snippet views. The initial snippet didn't reveal much , so I removed roy's name from the "From inside this book" search located immediately above the snippet. That gave me some text , but I could only see up to the part on p. 320 that reads "Roy plays an appropriate". I then typed that sentence fragment into the main Google Books search and got this, picked out a few words that I hadn't seen in the earlier snippet view, and that gave me a snippet view in which the song's sax solo was compared to a Coleman Hawkins piece , so I used that in the article.
By the way, good work on the Clay Boland article - creating a main page for the composer really helps strengthen the ability to keep individual pages for his notable songs. Cheers, Gongshow 19:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the tips and kind words. Warden (talk) 14:35, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Joseph Azar
Colonel, this page was tagged as A7, which I declined, after which the nominator urged me again on my talk page to delete it. I disagree--perhaps you or one of your stalkers are interested in this topic, for which I believe there are some references (see also the relevant section on my talk page). Thanks, Drmies (talk) 13:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
I have added some references. Warden (talk) 14:36, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Misquotation
Evening Warden. After your revisions to Misquotation earlier, I realised that a significant portion of the article duplicates Quotation. While I'm inclined to incorporate your revisions into the Quotation article, then modify Misquotation into a redirect, I'd appreciate it if you could comment on the proposal as a recent contributor. Cheers, Mephistophelian (talk) 17:47, 30 August 2012 (UTC).
- Both articles seem quite undeveloped. It might be best to start a merge discussion per WP:MERGE. Another issue is that there's an awfully tendentious coatrack at fallacy of quoting out of context too. Warden (talk) 17:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Ten Pound Hammer
So what, are you just wikistalking me now to pounce on every AFD I file right away? Ten Pound Hammer • 23:05, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- Wikistalking is a pejorative term. Following a user who has a track record of repeated inappropriate AfD nominations into new AfD nominations would seem to be a prudent way to protect the encyclopedia from such misguided efforts, should they recur. Jclemens (talk) 23:09, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- I try to examine every AFD. TPH's tend to attract attention because they often seem erroneous. Warden (talk) 23:11, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Worley noise
Wikistalk much? I've said my piece on the Worley noise AFD. I know "dicdef" and "short" are not synonymous. I'm saying that the article is both short and nothing more than a definition. Ten Pound Hammer • 11:35, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
WP:ANI#TenPoundHammer, AfD and WP:IDONTUNDERSTANDIT
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is TenPoundHammer, AfD and WP:IDONTUNDERSTANDIT. Thank you. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- I saw it already, thanks but ANI is a waste of time in such cases. Arbcom might be better. Warden (talk) 21:07, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- For convenient reference, here's a list of the 11 articles in question:
Kansas City streets
How about showing how they can be expanded? I looked high and low and all I found was directory listings for the 39th Street Best Western or books saying " is located on 39th street". You can't build a whole article entirely by making a list of not individually notable crap on the street, or every street in the world would have an article. Your argument is "it's notable because it's notable" and "nobody's trying to improve it", neither of which hold water. Ten Pound Hammer • 22:41, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- If you think there are sources, prove it. Just saying "but there are sources" doesn't mean jack shit unless you show that there are. Ten Pound Hammer • 22:42, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- I have made a start on doing just that. Off to bed now. Good night. Warden (talk) 22:59, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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Barnstar
Thanks for that. If I have time I'll expand the main article further but I have a certain ambitious bibliography to start compiling..♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:29, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
"Close helmet"
I am largely ignorant of Misplaced Pages processes so I have no idea if what I did was within accepted punctillio or if I acted within usual mechanisms, but in regard to the article Close helmet I proposed deletion for a number of cogent reasons, as explained on the article's discussion page. Can you give me any equally cogent reasons for keeping the page?
The page could be merged with Close helm, but with all the content of Close helmet removed. The article Close helmet is entirely erroneous at present, has no redeeming features and usurps the name of a different helmet than the one described in the text.
Urselius (talk) 09:44, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- My impression is that both close helm and close helmet might best be merged with armet. They are all variations of the same idea and so it seems best to bring them together. See WP:MERGE for details of of the process. Warden (talk) 10:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- I would argue against this, as the armet and close helm(et) have a different construction and are treated as distinct in virtually all relevant scholarship (at least in the English language). They also developed at different periods - the armet from about 1440 and the close helm(et) from c.1490. The definitions of armet and close helm(et) hinge (pun intended) on the way they open to admit the wearer's head. The armet skull sometimes is almost reduced to a strip at the back, from the skull are hinged two large "cheek-pieces" which fasten together at, and under, the chin. This results in an opening which is protected by a visor which pivots at two points at the sides of the skull. The close helm(et) opens by having a bevor pivoting at the same place as the visor. The armet opens laterally, wheras the close helm(et) opens vertically. Urselius (talk) 11:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- This is best on the article talk page, where it forms part of the visible record for that article, to the benefit of future editors.
- There is no point in discussing content with Colonel Warden. He knows nothing of any subject in detail, but sees that as no barrier to a prolific career as an editor. Merely re-arranging words from one website to here is enough; understanding or expertise in a field is unnecessary. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- Andy, I wouldnt be so dismissive of experts, they can sometimes be useful. Granted, the Colonel's universal scholarship is often superior to experts even in their own domains. But very few other volunteers have the exceptional intelligence and education needed for his polymath style editing. FeydHuxtable (talk) 11:48, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, fixed my punctuation. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- Andy, I wouldnt be so dismissive of experts, they can sometimes be useful. Granted, the Colonel's universal scholarship is often superior to experts even in their own domains. But very few other volunteers have the exceptional intelligence and education needed for his polymath style editing. FeydHuxtable (talk) 11:48, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- I would argue against this, as the armet and close helm(et) have a different construction and are treated as distinct in virtually all relevant scholarship (at least in the English language). They also developed at different periods - the armet from about 1440 and the close helm(et) from c.1490. The definitions of armet and close helm(et) hinge (pun intended) on the way they open to admit the wearer's head. The armet skull sometimes is almost reduced to a strip at the back, from the skull are hinged two large "cheek-pieces" which fasten together at, and under, the chin. This results in an opening which is protected by a visor which pivots at two points at the sides of the skull. The close helm(et) opens by having a bevor pivoting at the same place as the visor. The armet opens laterally, wheras the close helm(et) opens vertically. Urselius (talk) 11:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Hoteliers Barnstar of Esteem | |
César Ritz himself would be proud of your commendable efforts to improve Bristol Hotel, Gibraltar and show the rather colourful nominator of the AFD to have shown an error in judgement. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:33, 22 September 2012 (UTC) |
Thank you. FYI, my efforts in this field have been quite modest - just pop-up hotel and Skindles, so far. I used to enjoy staying in the Marriott World Trade Center but that is no more alas. Warden (talk) 10:42, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Howz that?♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Good work. I'm finding mentions of family trees and see tantalising portions of them in Google snippets. I'll put my findings on the talk page and start a graphical version. Warden (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:The No Asshole Rule might come in handy in future AFDs..♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm, this may not be universally popular. The phrase "if the cap fits, wear it" may be useful as and when this goes to MfD... Warden (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Brilliant!
I knew I'd seen that somewhere, but damned if I could find it again. Malleus Fatuorum 21:15, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I came across the fact when browsing the topic when it came to my attention a couple of weeks ago. I didn't want to disturb you at the time but, when it popped up on my watchlist again, it seemed best to get it done. Like you say, it took a while to find a source for this again and I can't remember if it's the same one. As for the book itself, I read it in my childhood but only have a dim recollection of it now. Warden (talk) 21:52, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- I had rather modest ambitions for this article when I started on it, GA at best, but the amount of help I've received has made me think that maybe we should think about shooting for FA. That way everyone who's contributed content gets the credit for it. A small thing I know, but the only reward we get here. Malleus Fatuorum 22:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Coral Island is one of my favourite books! I'd be happy to join you on it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:39, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Mentioned
I've mentioned your name at WP:ANI. IRWolfie- (talk) 13:01, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Another Wolfkeeper sock?
Since you're more familiar with him, perhaps you care to comment at the latest Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Wolfkeeper. Thanks, Tijfo098 (talk) 05:25, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Editor's Barnstar | |
Thanks for your creation of the new Cathedral Square, Gibraltar article, and for your efforts to improve the encyclopedia's coverage of notable locations. Northamerica1000 14:04, 28 September 2012 (UTC) |
- Thanks - your gesture is much appreciated. Warden (talk) 14:45, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Typos
I figured we could discuss the question of handling typos offline from Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Σ. I'm not sure if there is a consensus on handling typos, but there are a good number of redirects that exist to handle them and the {{r from typo}} tag as well. An advantage of a redirect would be to jump directly to the article as opposed to having the multiple matches presented to the reader and having them perform another click. I will add that I've found the algorithms used by WP to not be as strong as an engine like Google, even for some 1-letter typos.—Bagumba (talk) 21:08, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Queen Elizabeth's corgis
On 6 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Queen Elizabeth's corgis, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Queen Elizabeth II has owned over 30 corgis since she ascended the throne in 1952? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Queen Elizabeth's corgis. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- That's a pleasant surprise as I didn't know it had been nominated. Thanks to you and the other DYK folk. Warden (talk) 16:38, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
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