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Had to recover content after Nagle deleted most of the information. All information was factually substantiated and accurate. Nagle even deleted information about the titles and descriptions of works that Wadhwa produced. There needs to be more oversight about these changes here. Had to recover content after Nagle deleted most of the information. All information was factually substantiated and accurate. Nagle even deleted information about the titles and descriptions of works that Wadhwa produced. There needs to be more oversight about these changes here.
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I just looked further into the user Nagle. He uses the pseudonym John Nagle, who was the former INS Commissioner during the exclusionary regime. He keeps removing content, ostensibly out of anti-immigrant biases.

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Not notable?

Notability here is questionable. He's basically a blogger. All the "academic appointments" are hanger-on type positions and don't meet Misplaced Pages's "professor test" WP:PROF. ("Visiting scholar" doesn't mean much; I've been one at Stanford, and it's not a big deal.)

His contribution to computer science involves migration tools for COBOL, and had a business doing that in the run-up to the Y2K problem..

Actual articles about him are scarce. There's Mouth piece: Vivek Wadhwa's talent for trumpeting his company shines, but observers want to see another kind of performance.. His company, Relativity Technologies (legacy COBOL conversion) is described as "a five-year-old, money-losing start-up that last year scratched less than $10 million from a fragmented market estimated at $550 million." He was associated with Seer Technologies in the 1990s, and seems to have been responsible for moving them into IBM mainframe terminal screen-scraping.. The most useful bio is from Fast Company in 2001..

A bio might be possible from these sources. What we have now is an inflated resume. --John Nagle (talk) 19:50, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Updated article with some of above info, with refs. Also removed CrunchBase ref (you put yourself on CrunchBase; it's not a reliable source), and category "Harvard University faculty" (he's not.) --John Nagle (talk) 20:57, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
To judge by the references below, a more accurate summation of what Wadhwa did with Seer than
"moving Seer into screen scraping technology for IBM mainframe terminals, as an early form of client-server computing"
would be to say that he
"pioneered an open development environment for developing three-tier applications deployed across client–server systems, initially for MVS and OS/2 and later for platforms including HP-UX, AIX, Solaris, and Windows NT ".
Jason Pontin, "Seer migrates its three-tier SeerHPS to Windows NT", InfoWorld 27 Mar 1995, p. 34
Brad Howarth, "SEER divines a new channel", ARN 2 October 1996
Would you disagree with that?
Sorry, don't yet know how to indent my text.
Signatorius (talk) 00:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
That reads more like advertising copy. Also, Seer is not the originator of the three-tier concept, just a user of it. See Three-tier (computing). Seer's contribution is that they figured out a way to connect the business tier (on web servers) to a database tier (on IBM mainframes) through screen scraping, back when it was tough to get IBM mainframes to talk to anything but IBM terminals. --John Nagle (talk) 21:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm not going to try to parse all this critique though I've read most of it. I was glad to find the article here and concerned by the notability template. I added the bit I'd brought and, in addition, sifted through the academic and writing positions paragraph. I identified two which had no citations (amending from "is currently", for them, to "has been"; one to which I did this was the Harvard position mentioned as currently wrong above; plus gave the two a "Citation needed") and footnoted the rest.

One substance comment I'd make: writing for Bloomberg B'week, on the face, doesn't strike me as "basically blogging".* I haven't read Wadwah's work there but believe writers have a different, higher-profile (more worthy of an article, in the functional sense, I guess I'm saying; not though of course to downplay business and tech credentials) standing. ... I would hope the good work on this page gets over into the article (the "three-tier" stuff, if it's not already) and that the notability template is dropped, so we move on.

Final note. I can't immediately recall the first, but this is the 2nd time in about 3 days I've encountered the Rock school. Not a huge deal but (like the Yahoo angle on the other side of the bit I added to the Wadwah article) worthy of note, IMO. Rock doesn't have its own article yet. ... But it's intriguing; corporate governance has to be a growth discipline, is my editorial sense. The Rocks put in $10 million, to that effect. (I'll try to get that to their articles at least.) ...

That's it for now. Cheers. Swliv (talk) 23:01, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

*Washington Post, ditto. Will add it to article. Swliv (talk) 23:43, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I've worked with Wadhwa on a few Duke University publishing projects. It seems to me that his public position on immigration opens him up to a great deal of hostility that may be expressed in attacking his credentials.

There appears to be no basis for the claim that Seer Technologies did any "screen scraping".

Based on the references below, I propose to replace the sentence about screen scraping with this:

"He and a Seer colleague, Leonid Erlikh, found and hired a team of 30 Russian mathematicians, led by Andrey Terekhov, to implement Terekhov's new, mathematical, approach to analysing the important functionality of legacy computer code and synthesising from that analysis new code that, after an initial trial run whose failure taught them all a valuable lesson in making the conversion very broadly adaptable, performed more functions and functioned faster than the legacy software had."

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2000/1113/6613336a.html

http://www.fastcompany.com/42581/re-writing-code

http://www.informationweek.com/836/wadhwa.htm

Does that strike anybody as questionable?

Signatorius (talk) 02:59, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Undid promotional edits by SPAs

Undid some promotional edits by SPAs which deleted negative information and added marketing-type info for a new book. Please watch for promotional edits. Thanks. --John Nagle (talk) 03:59, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Edits by two SPAs seem to be rather similar. Hmm. --John Nagle (talk) 01:08, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Restoring Content

Had to recover content after Nagle deleted most of the information. All information was factually substantiated and accurate. Nagle even deleted information about the titles and descriptions of works that Wadhwa produced. There needs to be more oversight about these changes here. (talk) -samisacat —Preceding undated comment added 05:43, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I just looked further into the user Nagle. He uses the pseudonym John Nagle, who was the former INS Commissioner during the exclusionary regime. He keeps removing content, ostensibly out of anti-immigrant biases.

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