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Soviet/Nuclear Strike sources

Hi Bridies, here are the sources relating to the Strike series that we'd discussed earlier. I've collapsed them in tables to reduce their general bulkiness. Hopefully the result will be easy for you to use, but feel free to change the formatting however you see fit.

I have also made an attempt at translating the Russian source (Review of Soviet Strike for PS1 appearing in Great Drakon) and I'd be happy to share that with you if you'd like. And again, I have access to the article from Retrogamer #45 in case you can't get in touch with Guyinblack. Good luck with the articles. I'll be more available to help in August/September. -Thibbs (talk) 01:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm adding into the table above another part of the Russian review that I had neglected to add last time, as well as the RetroGamer "making of" article (this isn't the full article, but it's the only part that deals with Soviet Strike and Nuclear Strike at all) and also translations of the Russian material below. Let me know if anything above is unclear. -Thibbs (talk) 20:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

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MuZemike delivered by MuZebot 21:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Why won't you just move stuff from Cannon Fodder (series) to the game article first, and only then start building on that?

Now it's like 2 different articles about one and the same thing. --Niemti (talk) 08:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Cannon Fodder 3

On 22 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cannon Fodder 3, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that successful 1990s video game Cannon Fodder received a new sequel, Cannon Fodder 3, from an "unknown" Russian publisher in 2012? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cannon Fodder 3. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Re:

Tiderolls 12:30, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Cannon Fodder 2

Hello! Your submission of Cannon Fodder 2 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! LauraHale (talk) 02:13, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Cannon Fodder (video game)

Hello! Your submission of Cannon Fodder (video game) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! LauraHale (talk) 03:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Cannon Fodder 2

On 1 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cannon Fodder 2, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the designer of Cannon Fodder 2 started writing a novella to accompany the game, but the publisher vetoed the project, leaving reviewers baffled by the game's lack of plot? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cannon Fodder 2. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:04, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Cannon Fodder (video game)

On 3 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cannon Fodder (video game), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that video game Cannon Fodder, intended as an anti-war satire, drew controversy for juxtaposing violence and humour, as well for iconography resembling the remembrance poppy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cannon Fodder (video game). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Yngvadottir (talk) 00:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/God of War: Chains of Olympus/archive1

Made changes to passive language noted. JDC808 (talk) 21:16, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Addressed the other comments about the passive language. JDC808 (talk) 06:07, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Nuclear Strike

On 13 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nuclear Strike, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that shooting for Nuclear Strike's full motion video employed a live tiger and the Batcave? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nuclear Strike. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Yngvadottir (talk) 08:03, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

And Yet It Moves

Hello. Thanks for the GA review on And Yet It Moves! I really appreciate it. I have been revising the article based on your comments and was wondering if you would give it a second look with any new input. Thanks again! --ThomasO1989 (talk) 15:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

UFO again

Thanks for the review. Could you just make a proper grammer copy edit, as it's tagged now? --Niemti (talk) 17:57, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Jagged 85

Hey, I know we had a run in once in the past, for which all I can do is express my deepest regrets and apologies. You are a thoughtful and careful editor, and I engaged in some overreaction that was unbecoming. Anyway, I saw your discussions with Jagged on the FPS page because I have been shadowing him across wikipedia video game articles for several months now. During this time, I have been forced to revert numerous inaccurate additions, original research, and inappropriate use of sources. I gave a few examples on the RFC talk page in the section you started there, and I just wanted to let you know that if you or anyone else decides to take further action against Jagged from a video game standpoint that I am happy to help with the legwork and with providing numerous examples of editing abuses he has engaged in. Indrian (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cannon Fodder 3

The article Cannon Fodder 3 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 5 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Cannon Fodder 3 for things which need to be addressed. Kürbis (✔) 10:10, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cannon Fodder 3

The article Cannon Fodder 3 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Cannon Fodder 3 for comments about the article. Well done! Kürbis (✔) 14:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cannon Fodder 2

The article Cannon Fodder 2 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Cannon Fodder 2 for comments about the article. Well done! Kürbis (✔) 14:30, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

FPS; CS:S vs. CS GO

I undid your revert. If you read again carefully, you should find that the original was correct. If you still disagree, let's discuss on the article's talk page. -- Nczempin (talk) 07:34, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

— ΛΧΣ21™ 16:36, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Urban Strike/Cannon Fodder sources

Here they are:

• Halverson, Dave sub nom Dr.E. Urban Strike. DieHard GameFan. No.22 (Vol.2, Issue 10). Pg.64. October 1994.
• Halverson, Dave and Des Barres, Nicholas Dean. Canon Fodder. DieHard GameFan. No.25 (Vol.3, Issue 1). Pg.25. January 1995.
  • Note: the three scores come from "Skid", "Nick Rox", and "Takahara" in that order. "Nick Rox" is the nom de plume of Mr. Des Barres, but as far as I understood it both "Skid" and "Takahara" were pseudonyms for Dave Halverson. He's also the editor in chief so you can list him as the author alone if worst comes to worst. In other cases with scores like these I've seen people treat them like Famitsu Cross reviews, i.e. adding the scores and giving a total out of 300. I'm not sure what's the best way to handle it though.
• Halverson, Dave sub nom Takahara. Cannon Fodder. DieHard GameFan. No.25 (Vol.3, Issue 1). Pg.102. January 1995.

Enjoy. -Thibbs (talk) 16:53, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm sure I'll figure something out. bridies (talk) 17:14, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Soviet Strike

Hello! Your submission of Soviet Strike at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 05:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

XIII

Hey Bridies!

Thanks again for your copyedits. Do you think that XIII (video game) may become a FA in its present shape? Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 10:28, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Halo: Reach/archive1

I think I've addressed your concerns, if you'd like to take another look. Thanks! Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 11:29, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

You've got to be kidding me

Go and compare to the reception sections at popular GAs such as Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) - this one I've never touched (other than for updating categories, because I created a lot of them), and so it's incredibly chaotic and its style is awful. And yet it's still a GA. Quite typical, too - I cleaned up/rewrote many others like that. Oh and it's like that after a recent rewrite by someone else that "fixed a lot of punctuation, grammar and phraseology issues" because it used to be just horrible.

While Kasumi's reception is actually exceptionally clearly divided by themed paragraphs and easy to read. I even checked it for "featured", "included", "listed", "ranked" and such to not repeat in the same paragraph too much, small things like that. So your opinion was just insulting for me. --Niemti (talk) 13:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Ha, no, Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) is a C-class article. It was delisted from GA in 2007 and failed again in 2008. On that note: take any GAs needing clean-up to WP:GAR, I review against the criteria, not other-crap which has degraded or wasn't reviewed properly in the first place, sorry. I disagree regarding you're assertion that it's "exceptionally clearly divided by themed paragraphs and easy to read", and given the dozens of copy edits I made, I trust my opinion on clear and coherent prose more than I do yours. I made all those copy edits, you give an edit summary like this one, and you're complaining about being insulted? Please. bridies (talk) 14:20, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Strange I'd swear it was a GA. Well, in this case, for example, the related article Tifa from before my edits last summer (total chaos and badly written for so many reasons). Oh and yes, I did more than "dozens of copy edits". Actually, probably most of several thousand articles that I edited this year got a copy edit from me (more or less thorough). --Niemti (talk) 15:42, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm not really seeing your point. bridies (talk) 15:47, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

"My point" is that your "opinion on clear and coherent prose" was wrong, and also you're complaining about allegedly "unclear and incoherent" stuff that was in your edit too. Because all you did was very quickly move some stuff around, almost randomly, while I did this on a much greater scale and with more sense, and with fixing the resulting issues (which you didn't), plus a variety of other improvements - from fixing the dead links, to citing the authors by name if needed, to overally improving flow and readibility, to getting away with a separate section about GD only (also removing the outdated "newest" about Dimensions for that matter). But you didn't even wait for me to finish, which is also "my point". --Niemti (talk) 15:57, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I thought your point was supposed to be regarding how badly that Tifa article was supposedly written (which it wasn't)? Right, I get it, you think that section is clear and coherent, I don't. You might also want to use the edit summary once in a while if you're going to get worked up when people don't second guess what it is you're up to. bridies (talk) 16:13, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you show me an example of reception being "clear and coherent"? Your edit summary was just "reorganise... think this works", to which I disagreed ("nope"). After that, you started edit warring, not commenting on my further edit at all while reverting it (only writing ""nope" isn't a valid reason to revert", which didn't explain why you reverted my next edit too, including bringing dead links back). --Niemti (talk) 16:29, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Also what, you thought Tifa's reception was... written well???? You've got to be kidding me, part deux. --Niemti (talk) 16:36, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Not great, but adequate, and better than anything I've seen you write. All you seem to have done is added some of your editorialised hyperbole: Tifa has received an extremely positive reaction. As for coherent reception sections: Lara Croft. bridies (talk) 16:50, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

You really want to insult me, eh? My edits are here (not all of them, and pretty quick). Now,

Critical reception

, I'm bolding bad style. Almost nothing there is dated, there are no authors. Everything there is chaotic, there's not a trace of any negative reception. All the list names are also not turned into prose. And more.]

Since her introduction Tifa has received much positive reception, and has been cited as an example of a strong female character in video games in the wake of Lara Croft's introduction, and in 2010 was named in a poll by Famitsu the nineteenth most popular video game character by Japanese audiences . GameSpot readers named her one of the ten best female characters in video games, with the site's editors noting they agreed . IGN listed Tifa as the thirteenth best Final Fantasy character of all time, describing it as an attempt by Square to "give Final Fantasy characters real sex appeal", and one that "could take care of herself in a pinch"; in a follow-up Reader's Choice edition of the list, Tifa placed first, with the staff repeating their previous comments while attributing her placement on the list to her breasts.In a later article focusing solely on Final Fantasy VII characters she placed fourth, adding that while her sex appeal contributes to her popularity, "Tifa helped drive a tradition of tough, independent RPG heroines." They later named Tifa one of the ten best heroines in gaming, describing her as "without a doubt, a legendary heroine of the Final Fantasy universe". Mania Entertainment placed her tenth in their article of the "13 Video Game Women That Kick Ass", stating that while subsequent games in the Final Fantasy series introduced other memorable female characters, "Tifa is our first Final Fantasy girl and holds a special place in our hearts."

UGO.com ranked her twenty-fourth in their "Top 50 Videogame Hotties" article, stating "We can't get over how much better she looks in each subsequent game release." They later listed her as one of the "Top 11" girls of gaming at number five, stating a preference for her over Aerith in Final Fantasy VII and adding "Tifa's outfit is a marvel of understatement – but it's her natural assets and unforgettable personality that earn her a spot on this list." GameDaily ranked her thirty-first on their "Top 50 Hottest Game Babes" list, sharing UGO.com's preference for her and praising both her appearance and combat abilities. MSN astated similar sentiment, stating that while her presence in the series was "a little subtle, giving her more of an emotional undertone", the franchise would not be as special without her. Tom's Hardware listed her as one of the "Top 50 Greatest Female Characters in Video Game History," describing her as "one of the more richly drawn and intricate female characters around." Joystiq named her their top pick out of twenty characters from the Final Fantasy franchise they wished to see in Square Enix's crossover fighting game Dissidia Final Fantasy, describing her as one of the series' "greatest heroines".

In June 1998, The New York Times Sunday Magazine featured her as the pin-up girl of the "cyber generation". That same year, Electronic Gaming Monthly named her the "Hottest Game Babe" of 1998, describing her as "well-proportioned as they come" and praising her as a viable alternative to Lara Croft . In 2004, Play featured Tifa in the first issue of their Girls of Gaming annual periodical, describing her as "the most adored female in recent history". In 2007, she was named the eighth best character of all time in Dengeki PlayStation's retrospective awards feature about the original PlayStation, one of six characters from Final Fantasy VII to appear on the list and the third highest ranked character from the game. In 2007 Korean singer Ivy portrayed the character in a music video for the song "유혹의 소나타" ("Sonata of Temptation"). Recreating a fight scene from Advent Children, the video was banned from airing on Korean television after a copyright lawsuit by Square Enix citing plagiarism.

This section was also badly outdated (barely updated since 2009). --Niemti (talk) 17:07, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, and to compare with this shit above, my FFVII character GA is here: Yuffie Kisaragi. There's also FFX one, Yuna (Final Fantasy). How horrible they must be, just look at them. --Niemti (talk) 17:16, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with most of the stuff you've bolded. bridies (talk) 17:19, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

You've got to be kidding me III. All the "nineteenth" and such, all the lack of proper punctuation, ALL THE LACK OF NAMES AND DATES IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE, all the chaos all the style errors, all the lack of negative reception whatsoever, all the other things that I already wrote of. I just lost my faith in you. See ya. --Niemti (talk) 17:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

1. Staff (2001-06-15). "Girls got Game". The Beaumont Enterprise. Texas, United States. 0106230231.
2. Glifford, Kevin (2010-02-10). "Snake Beats Mario, Is Coolest Video Game Character Ever". 1UP.com. Retrieved 2010-03-10.
3. "Readers' Choice - The Ten Best Female Characters". GameSpot. Retrieved 2009-01-11.
4. Smith, David (2008-05-14). "Top 25 Final Fantasy Characters - Day III". IGN. Retrieved 2008-05-14.
5. Pirrello, Phil (2008-05-20). "Final Fantasy Reader's Choice". IGN. Retrieved 2008-05-20.
6. Smith, Dave (2008-03-25). "Final Fantasy VII: Top 10 Characters". IGN. Retrieved 2009-01-07.
7. IGN PlayStation Team (2009-07-08). "The Wednesday 10: Gaming Heroines". IGN. Retrieved 2009-07-09.
8. Lawrence, Briana (01-04-2010). "13 Video Game Women That Kick Ass". Mania Entertainment. Retrieved 01-26-2010. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= and |date= (help)
9. "Top 50 Videogame Hotties". UGO Networks. UGO Networks. Retrieved 2008-12-14.
10. "Top 11 Girls of Gaming". UGO Networks. UGO Networks. Retrieved 2008-12-28.
11. Buffa, Chris. "Top 50 Hottest Game Babes on Trial". GameDaily. AOL. Retrieved 2009-06-28.
12. Staff (2009-09-07). "Gaming's Hottest Babes". MSN. p. 6. Retrieved 2011-01-12.
13. Wright, Rob (2007-02-20). "The 50 Greatest Female Characters in Video Game History". Tom's Hardware. Archived from the original on 2008-01-25. Retrieved 2009-07-02.
14. Staff (2008-03-21). "Top 20 Final Fantasy supporting characters that should be in Dissidia". Joystiq. GameDaily. Retrieved 2009-07-01.
15. Steinberg, Shirley R. (2004). Kinderculture: The Corporate Construction of Childhood. Westview Press. p. 265. ISBN 0-8133-9154-7. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
16. Staff (1998). "The Good, the Bad and the Silly". Electronic Gaming Monthly (1998 Buyer's Guide): 24.
17. Staff (2003). Play Magazine Presents Girls of Gaming (1): 31. {{cite journal}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
18. Gantayat, Anoop (2007-11-22). "Nomura Talks FFXIII". IGN. Retrieved 2007-11-22.
19. Ashcraft, Brian (2007-04-10). "Clip: Square Cracks Down On Korean Video". Kotaku. Retrieved 2009-07-05.