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=== November 1 ===
==== Stephen Crane ====
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''']''' (1871–1900) was an American novelist, short story writer, poet and journalist. Prolific throughout his short life, he wrote notable works in the ] tradition as well as early examples of American ] and ]. Crane's first novel was the 1893 ] tale '']''. He won international acclaim for his 1895 ] novel '']'', written without any battle experience. Late that year he accepted an offer to cover the ] as a ]. As he waited in ] for passage to Cuba, he met ], the madam of a brothel, with whom he would have a lasting relationship. Plagued by financial difficulties and ill health, Crane died of ] at the age of 28. Although recognized primarily for ''The Red Badge of Courage'', Crane is also known for short stories such as "]", "]", "]", and '']''. Stylistically, his works are characterized by vivid intensity, distinctive ]s, and ]. Common themes involve fear, spiritual crises and social isolation. His writing made a deep impression on 20th century writers, most prominent among them ], and is thought to have inspired the ] and the ]. (])</div></div>

* Writer on birthday, interesting bio, too bad that some will have to be trimmed ;) --] (]) 14:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Support''' important author. --''']]]''' 18:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' because too similar to the recent TFA '']'' - both are about American lit; he's a naturalist as is Dillard, and both written by the same editor. I would be more than happy to support this at a later date and I think more thought should be put into these suggestions because it's not nice to have to oppose. ] (]) 18:23, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
* Nominator needs to calculate points for us to reflect any recent similar TFAs.--] (]) 18:29, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
*:Needs OCLC numbers for every book written before the 1970s before I'll support.--] (]) 03:05, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Per Rschen7754. I think the connection to PaTC is reaching, to be honest. I looked through the past few months and I don't see any recent similar TFAs. ] (]) 22:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
*:Yeah and they'd be roughly a month and a half apart. --''']]]''' 22:29, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Support''' This is a very important writer, <s>neglected on wikipedia,</s> way above the level of '']'' IMO. And writing about an important era (the Civil War) in American history. So should be on the main page on his birthday. ] (]) 23:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
*:To be fair, there are four Crane-related FAs, two of which I believe have been featured on the mainpage. <span style="font-family:verdana">] </span><small>(]])</small> 13:56, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*::Sorry, you're right. Doesn't change my "Support" though. According to ]: "The good writers are ], Stephen Crane, and ]. That's not the order they're good in. There is no order for good writers." ] (]) 14:35, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*:::You'll get no argument from me as to Crane's notability; I'm a huge fan, hence the four FAs. I'm neither opposing nor supporting this nomination, I just thought your comment strange considering. <span style="font-family:verdana">] </span><small>(]])</small> 15:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*::::Yes, I was unaware. I've not been following FA/FAC for very long. ] (]) 15:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' because too similar to the recent TFA '']'' on September 17, per Truthkeeper. Fine in the New Year. ] (]) 16:13, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
* <s>'''Support'''</s> as ''Tinker Creek'' is a book while this is a biography. Similar, but not too similar, IMHO.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 16:24, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*:Agree with Crisco. Crane was not "a naturalist as is Dillard". The word "]" is being misapplied. For Crane the word refers to his introduction of realism, not that he concentrated on writing about nature. "Naturalism was a literary movement taking place from the 1880s to 1940s that used detailed realism to suggest that social conditions, heredity, and environment had inescapable force in shaping human character." Is this the same as Dillard? Their writing is not similar, nor their topics, nor their level of fame and influence on literature. He was primarily a writer of fiction and did not write as ''Pilgrim at Tinker Creek'' is described: "Told from a first-person point of view, the book details an unnamed narrator's explorations near her home, and various contemplations on nature and life". ] (]) 16:40, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*:: I'm sorry MathewTownsend but I have to disagree. I have on my computer desktop a Cambridge Companion book titled ''American Realism and Naturalism'' with a chapter devoted to Crane. In American lit., naturalism (which doesn't necessarily have to do with nature, but sometimes does) began pre-Civil war with ] and the ] (though they were the forerunners), took off fully with Crane, Twain, Dreiser, Sinclair and others after the Civil war, continued with Hemingway (see "]") and Faulkner mid-century and certainly is seen in Dillard. All this is beside the point though; I made a very pointy oppose, for which I feel awful to the point that I will send Maria email to apologize yet again, because I feel this page is being misused. How many articles do we have about American literature? How many editors do we have writing about American literature? These are considerations to keep in mind. Furthermore, since when does the primary editor have the obligation to write the blurb and to provide OLCL numbers (as requested above), particularly when editors are simultaneously being accused of ownership issues. Something's very rotten in Denmark is the point I'm trying to make; and quite frankly this is an issue that's gone once to RfAR. In my view another trip there might not be a bad idea. This page should be used for editors to request main page appearance for articles to which they've contributed, not to be used as a place to post willy-nilly without thinking about long-term ramifications. I didn't support ''Tinker Creek'' and had that not run, I'd be happy to see Crane go now. I believe Crane should go and am upset to see the mess that's been made here. ] (]) 18:49, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*::: You decry concerns of ownership and then immediately express the view that proposals for main page appearance should only be made by significant contributors to articles. Obvious issue, right? Any wonder that there are calls for this culture to end? ] (]) 19:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*:::: No, Jack. I've never used this page and Gerda put a message on my page inviting me to join the conversation. You're letting your personal animus get in the way of seeing the obvious problems: Austen nominated now when a major anniversary looms in four months (maybe the author knows about that?); British royalty nominated now when another major anniversary looms (where's the spot for that request?). A major American author nominated a few weeks after another book by an American author, when today yet another book is being run. We simply don't have that many lit. pages and they need to be spread out. I don't care if you change this place or not, but some kind of order or thought needs to be put into the nominations - order and thought that seems currently to be lacking. You can decry the ownership issue all you like, but if you have issues with it, try bringing forward solutions better than those that have been brought forward. ] (]) 19:47, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*::::: Sorry to hear about your private concerns. - To these facts: Austen was nominated now, but can very well appear on the anniversary if that is what gets consensus, 2013 that is. If so, I don't see why a male author and a book by a female US author should not appear within the same quarter, --] (]) 20:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*::::: {{ec}}On the contrary, I think Gerda has done a great job nominating articles (which very few people are willing to do) and deserves to be thanked--not criticised. Raul and Dabomb need our help, and we should be encouraging people who try to {{diff|Misplaced Pages talk:Today's featured article/requests|prev|479134465|make their lives easier}}. I encourage anyone unhappy with the job a volunteer here is doing to step up and try to do it better. ] (]) 20:24, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*::::: As to whether this is too close to have articles generally related to American literature together--that's a matter of personal opinion, maybe it is and maybe it isn't. We just have to wait for more people to show up here and form a consensus. ] (]) 20:24, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*::::: My name's not Jack. Note that I've not supported this TFA suggestion. This is a forum for discussing potential TFA and... they're being discussed. And don't be attacking Gerda. She's sincere, mellow, and we've a paucity of good female participants on this project. ] (]) 20:47, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
*:::::: (blushing, again) --] (]) 20:58, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
{{od}}Regarding Crisco's comment above about one article being a biography and the other about a book: (see footnote 5 above) "Similar is defined differently than the categories at WP:FA: two dissimilar articles may be grouped under the same category. For example, two film articles would be considered similar but an article about a newspaper and one about a film may be both grouped under Media but would not be considered similar. Conversely, similar articles may be in different categories at WP:FA: for example, Atom and Noble gas." ] (]) 23:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:*Indeed. In this case I find it dissimilar enough to not be an issue. If this were a novel and then a short story came along, there might be pause, but novel and author are different enough I think&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:01, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
::*We have, in the past, viewed a creator and then a creation as not similar, assuming that they are not related (i.e. don't run ''The Red Badge of Courage'' right after Crane.)--] (]) 14:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Support''' ] ] 19:24, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per Truthkeeper88 and Johnbod...] (]) 19:40, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''': if ] appears on October 23 (see above), that will make two male author/journalists on the mainpage in as many weeks. Seeing as how this nom already has several opposes, I think the other one should take precedence. Not to mention, the 50th Bond anniversary is surely more important than Crane's 141st birthday. <span style="font-family:verdana">] </span><small>(]])</small> 20:28, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' as Ian Fleming should take priority.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:46, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Fleming is scheduled, --] (]) 23:06, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
:*I'm not sure why this is still here. 5 opposes, 4 supports, an extremely similar article scheduled eight days before this is proposed to run. Surely this nomination should be removed? <span style="font-family:verdana">] </span><small>(]])</small> 23:33, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
::*Not so sure, do you think two authors of different eras are "extremely similar"? --] (]) 23:54, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
:::*Two anglo-male author/journalists featured on the mainpage within 8 days? Yes, they're extremely similar. This nom should be removed so that a more diverse article can take its place. <span style="font-family:verdana">] </span><small>(]])</small> 00:13, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
::::*This needs to go...] (]) 00:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' given Ian Fleming's selection. Gerda, please bring this back some other time. ]] 08:04, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


=== November 4 === === November 4 ===

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Here the community can nominate articles to be selected as "Today's featured article" (TFA) on the main page. The TFA section aims to highlight the range of articles that have "featured article" status, from Art and architecture through to Warfare, and wherever possible it tries to avoid similar topics appearing too close together without good reason. Requests are not the only factor in scheduling the TFA (see Choosing Today's Featured Article); the final decision rests with the TFA coordinators: Wehwalt, Dank, Gog the Mild and SchroCat, who also select TFAs for dates where no suggestions are put forward. Please confine requests to this page, and remember that community endorsement on this page does not necessarily mean the article will appear on the requested date.

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On that nomination page, fill out as many of the relevant parts of the pre-loaded {{TFAR nom}} template as you can, then save the page.

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Date Article Reason Primary author(s) Added by (if different)
2025:
March 1 Meurig ab Arthfael Why Dudley Miles Sheila1988
March 18 Edward the Martyr Why Amitchell125 Sheila1988
April 1 Bart Simpson (rerun, first TFA was April 19, 2015) Why 750h+ Xeroctic
April 12 Dolly de Leon Why Pseud 14
April 15 Lady Blue (TV series) Why Aoba47 Harizotoh9
April 18 Battle of Poison Spring Why HF
April 24 "I'm God" Why Skyshifter
April 25 1925 FA Cup final Why Kosack Dank
May 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (re-run, first TFA was May 14, 2015) Why Peacemaker67
May 6 Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories Why Harizotoh9
May 10 Ben&Ben Why Pseud 14
May 11 Valley Parade Why Harizotoh9
May 11 Mother (Meghan Trainor song) Why MaranoFan
May 17 Bad Blood (Taylor Swift song) Why Ippantekina Jlwoodwa
June The Combat: Woman Pleading for the Vanquished Why iridescent Harizotoh9
June 1 Namco Why Harizotoh9
June 3 David Evans (RAAF officer) Why Harizotoh9
June 5 Jaws (film) Why 750h+
June 6 American logistics in the Northern France campaign Why Hawkeye7 Sheila1988
June 8 Barbara Bush Why Harizotoh9
June 23 Battle of Groix Why Jackyd101 Jlwoodwa
June 26 Donkey Kong Land Why TheJoebro64 Jlwoodwa
July 1 Maple syrup Why Nikkimaria Dank
July 7 Gustav Mahler Why Brianboulton Dank
July 14 William Hanna Why Rlevse Dank
July 26 Liz Truss Why Tim O'Doherty Tim O'Doherty and Dank
July 29 Tiger Why LittleJerry
July 31 Battle of Warsaw (1705) Why Imonoz Harizotoh9
August 4 Death of Ms Dhu Why Freikorp AirshipJungleman29
August 23 Yugoslav torpedo boat T3 Why Peacemaker67
August 25 Born to Run Why Zmbro Jlwoodwa
August 30 Late Registration Why Harizotoh9
September 2 1905–06 New Brompton F.C. season Why Harizotoh9
September 6 Hurricane Ophelia (2005) Why Harizotoh9
September 20 Myst V: End of Ages Why Harizotoh9
September 30 Battle of Morlaix Why Gog the Mild
September 30 or October 1 Hoover Dam Why NortyNort, Wehwalt Dank
October 1 Yugoslav torpedo boat T4 Why Peacemaker67
October 3 Spaghetti House siege Why SchroCat Dank
October 10 Tragic Kingdom Why EA Swyer Harizotoh9
October 16 Angela Lansbury Why Midnightblueowl MisawaSakura
October 18 Royal Artillery Memorial Why HJ Mitchell Ham II
October 29 John Bullock Clark Why HF
November 1 Matanikau Offensive Why Harizotoh9
November 19 Water Under the Bridge Why MaranoFan
November 20 Nuremberg trials Why buidhe harizotoh9
November 21 Canoe River train crash Why Wehwalt
December 25 Marcus Trescothick Why Harizotoh9
December 30 William Anderson (RAAF officer) Why Ian Rose Jlwoodwa
2026:
January 27 History of the Jews in Dęblin and Irena during World War II Why Harizotoh9
February 27 Raichu Why Kung Fu Man
March 13 Swift Justice Why Harizotoh9
March 22 Chris Redfield Why Boneless Pizza!
May 5 Me Too (Meghan Trainor song) Why MaranoFan
May 30 Bejeweled (video game) Why Lazman321
June 1 Rhine campaign of 1796 Why harizotoh9
June 8 Types Riot Why Z1720
July 1 Mount Edziza Why User:Volcanoguy Sheila1988
July 23 Veronica Clare Why Harizotoh9
September 6 Assassination of William McKinley Why Wehwalt czar
September 20 Persona (series) Why Harizotoh9
November The Story of Miss Moppet Why Harizotoh9
November 11 U.S. Route 101 Why SounderBruce
October 15 Easy on Me Why MaranoFan
November 20 Tôn Thất Đính Why Harizotoh9
December 21 Fredonian Rebellion Why Harizotoh9
December 22 Title (song) Why MaranoFan
2027:
June 1987 (What the Fuck Is Going On?) Why
August 25 Genghis Khan Why AirshipJungleman29
October 15 The Motherland Calls Why Joeyquism


Date Article Points Notes Supports Opposes
Nonspecific 1
Nonspecific 2
Nonspecific 3 Hadji Ali 2 2 for no similar article appearing within six months 3 0
Nonspecific 4
Nonspecific 5 Porbeagle 2 0
October 29 Give Peace a Chance (Grey's Anatomy) 3 Date relevance, nomination by significant contributor, and no related article featured within 3 months. 8 1
November 1 Stephen Crane Birthday 5 4
November 4 Gabriel Fauré 5 Day of death, no article similar in over 6 months(composers, not operas), widely covered 1 0
November 5 Thomas Percy (Gunpowder Plot) day of death 4 0
November 6 William Jennings Bryan presidential campaign, 1896 Day significant 2 0
November 13 Horseshoe Curve (Pennsylvania) Day significant -- anniversary of date listed on National Register of Historic Places and as National Historic Landmark 2 0
November 17 Metroid Prime 5 Tenth anniversary, 2008 FA, nomination by significant contributor 3 0
November 20 Windsor Castle 4 20th anniversary of the fire; widely covered topic 1 0

Tally may not be up to date; please do not use these tallies for removing a nomination according to criteria 1 or 3 above unless you have verified the numbers. The nominator is included in the number of supporters.

Nonspecific date nominations

Nonspecific date 1

Nonspecific date 2

Nonspecific date 3

Hadji Ali

Hadji Ali

Hadji Ali (c. 1888–92 – 1937) was a vaudeville performance artist famous for acts of controlled regurgitation. Thought to be of Egyptian extraction, his best-known feats included water spouting, smoke swallowing and nut and handkerchief swallowing followed by disgorgement in an order chosen by the audience. The mainstay of Ali's act was "water spouting." After swallowing large amounts of water, 60 to 100 glasses at a time, he spouted the water in a continuous stream for a sustained period of time, sometimes approaching one minute. Ali's most famous stunt, and the highlight of his act, was drinking copious amounts of water followed by kerosene, and then acting by turns as a human flamethrower and fire extinguisher as he expelled the two liquids onto a theatrical prop. While these stunts were performed, a panel of audience members was invited to watch the show up close to verify that no trickery was employed. Ali had a dedicated following on the vaudeville circuit in the United States and performed for heads of state including Tsar Nicholas II of Russia. Judy Garland named him her favorite vaudevillian and David Blaine identified Ali as his favorite magician. Two documentaries contain footage of Ali taken from Politiquerias: 1977's Gizmo!, and 1999's Vaudeville. Ali's unusual gastric abilities led to rumors that the Rockefeller Institute had offered a large sum of money to obtain his stomach post-mortem. After he died in England his body was offered to Johns Hopkins for study, though the offer was declined. (more...)
  • suggested for nonspecific date. One point for unusual topic not covered elsewhere. MathewTownsend (talk) 19:55, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
    • Thank you for the nomination Mathew. Shouldn't it be three points – one for diversity and two more for no similar article appearing within six months? The question mark is because the scope of the standard is not sparklingly clear. Certainly nothing "similar" has been featured... ever. But if broadly construed, there have been actors and musicians one could I suppose classify as also being "performance artists".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support x2. Awesome. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:50, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Very well written article on a very interesting subject. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:56, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support as fun. Johnbod (talk) 14:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment blurb is only 840 characters, about 2/3rds the appropriate length. Running a blurb that is too short messes up the balance of the sections on the main page. And "diversity" only wins a point when it's in a specified FA category, see above; this is a "culture and society" article so is 2 points. Bencherlite 21:53, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
  • To Bencherlite - please see Raul's footnote 5 above: "Similar is defined differently than the categories at WP:FA: two dissimilar articles may be grouped under the same category. For example, two film articles would be considered similar but an article about a newspaper and one about a film may be both grouped under Media but would not be considered similar. Conversely, similar articles may be in different categories at WP:FA: for example, Atom and Noble gas." MathewTownsend (talk) 13:47, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
    • Hello Mathew, I don't know why you feel the need to lecture me about "similarity" when my issue is with "diversity", as I thought I had made clear by using the word "diversity" not "similarity". To save you the effort of reading the instructions once more: "Subject underrepresented at WP:FA: 1 point". FN4 is: "The category where the article is listed at WP:FA has fewer than 50 featured articles. The categories which currently qualify are: Awards, decorations and vexillology; Chemistry and mineralogy; Computing; Education; Engineering and technology; Food and drink; Geology and geophysics; Health and medicine; Language and linguistics; Mathematics; Philosophy and psychology." This article is in "culture and society" i.e. no bonus point for "diversity". I have no issue with the two points claimed for "similarity", which is why I said "2 points" since 3 points claimed less 1 point wrongly claimed makes 2 points. Hope this makes sense now. Bencherlite 18:30, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
      • Nope, I believe Raul's footnote and the evaluation of -Fuhghettaboutit and User:Crisco 1492 . Just my view. I'm not sure what special knowledge you have over theirs. MathewTownsend (talk) 20:00, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
        • The ability to realise that the points for "similarity" and "diversity" are calculated in different ways, perhaps? It really isn't that difficult. Bencherlite 20:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
          • yes, it is that difficult. Meant to kept newbies out perhaps? So the old crew runs everything according to rules where some FAs are on a sekret list never to be on the main page. Seems incredibly stupid to me. But then, I'm not part of the "old crew" that runs everything according to obscure rules. Of course, the "director for life" hasn't logged in for over a month. Are you his mouthpiece? MathewTownsend (talk) 20:22, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
            • Is it really worth arguing about whether this should get 2 points or 3 points? Pretty much all the non-specifics with several net supports get their chance these days. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
              • I'm not oppposing its selection, but if the rules are misinterpreted on this nomination without someone pointing out the error, we risk confusion in the future on a nomination where it might be more important e.g. where there are competing nominations for the same date. As there is no consensus to do away with the point system, we might as well get it right. Bencherlite 20:32, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support, presuming any summary length issue can be solved. Intriguing bio; nice graphic.hamiltonstone (talk) 22:32, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Nonspecific date 4

Nonspecific date 5

Porbeagle

a silver stubby nosed shark

The porbeagle is a species of mackerel shark in the family Lamnidae, distributed widely in the cold and temperate marine waters of the North Atlantic and Southern Hemisphere. In the North Pacific, its ecological equivalent is the closely related salmon shark. The porbeagle typically reaches 2.5 m (8.2 ft) in length and a weight of 135 kg (298 lb); North Atlantic sharks grow larger than Southern Hemisphere sharks and differ in coloration and aspects of life history. Gray above and white below, the porbeagle has a very stout midsection that tapers towards the long, pointed snout and the narrow base of the tail. It has large pectoral and first dorsal fins, tiny pelvic, second dorsal, and anal fins, and a crescent-shaped caudal fin. The most distinctive features of this species are its three-cusped teeth, the white blotch on the back of its first dorsal fin, and the two pairs of lateral keels on its tail. Preying mainly on bony fishes and cephalopods, the porbeagle is an opportunistic hunter that regularly moves up and down in the water column, catching prey in midwater as well as off the bottom. Only a few shark attacks of uncertain provenance have been attributed to the porbeagle. It is well regarded as a game fish by recreational anglers. The meat and fins of the porbeagle are highly valued, which has led to a long history of intense human exploitation. However, this species cannot sustain heavy fishing pressure due to its low reproductive capacity. (more...)

Specific date nominations

October 29

Give Peace a Chance (Grey's Anatomy)

Patrick Dempsey, whom the episode was focused on

"Give Peace a Chance" is the seventh episode of the sixth season of the American television medical drama Grey's Anatomy, and the show's 109th episode overall. Written by Peter Nowalk and directed by Chandra Wilson, the episode was originally broadcast on the American Broadcasting Company (ABC) in the United States on October 29, 2009. Grey's Anatomy centers around a group of young doctors in training. In this episode, Dr. Derek Shepherd (Patrick Dempsey, pictured) performs an operation on a hospital technician's "inoperable" tumor, despite the objections of the chief of surgery, Dr. Richard Webber (James Pickens, Jr.). The episode was designed to revolve around Dempsey's character. Mark Saul, Jesse Williams, and Nora Zehetner returned as guest stars, while Faran Tahir made his first and only appearance. Viewed by 13.74 million people, "Give Peace a Chance" won Wilson an NAACP Image Award for directing, and was generally well received among critics. (more...)

Three points: One point for date relevance (three year anniversary of premiere), one point for being a significant contributor/never having an article as TFA, and one point for no television/film article featured within 3 months of the requested date. Recently promoted FA. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

November 4

Gabriel Fauré

Gabriel Fauré in 1907

Gabriel Fauré was a French composer, organist, pianist and teacher. He was one of the foremost French composers of his generation, and his musical style influenced many 20th-century composers. Among his best-known works are his Pavane, Requiem, nocturnes for piano, and the songs "Après un rêve" and "Clair de lune". Although his best-known and most accessible compositions are generally his earlier ones, Fauré composed many of his greatest works in his later years, in a harmonically and melodically much more complex style. Fauré was born into a cultured but not especially musical family. His talent became clear when he was a small boy. At the age of nine he was sent to a music college in Paris, where he was trained to be a church organist and choirmaster. Among his teachers was Camille Saint-Saëns, who became a lifelong friend. After graduating from the college in 1865 Fauré earned a modest living as an organist and teacher, leaving him little time for composition. (more...)

I think this should be on the main page. It has 5 points in total.--Lucky102 (talk) 16:13, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

  • Support the article, but the blurb doesn't need events he has in common with others (childhood, unspecific graduation), should better show what is his specialty. We began rehearsing his Requiem yesterday, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Not sure the table above says "Day of death, no article similar in over 6 months(composers, not operas), widely covered" but why should I have to look up there? When did he die anyway? Another dubious calculation of similarity "(composers, not operas)" - right, and with beards! When is the Glass opera just selected going as TFA? Fuller and better nominations please! Johnbod (talk) 23:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

November (8) 5

Thomas Percy (Gunpowder Plot)

Thomas Percy

Thomas Percy (c. 1560–1605) was a member of the group of provincial English Catholics who planned the failed Gunpowder Plot of 1605. A tall, physically impressive man, little is known of his early life beyond his matriculation in 1579 at the University of Cambridge, and his marriage in 1591 to Martha Wright. In 1596 a distant relation, Henry Percy, 9th Earl of Northumberland, appointed him constable of Alnwick Castle. In the years before 1603 Percy was the earl's intermediary in a series of confidential communications with King James VI of Scotland. Percy became disenchanted with James after his accession to the English throne in 1603, as he considered that James had reneged on promises of toleration for English Catholics. He met Robert Catesby in 1603 and in the following year joined Catesby's conspiracy to kill the king and his ministers by blowing up the House of Lords with gunpowder. Percy provided the group with funding and secured the leases to certain properties in London, one of which was the undercroft directly beneath the House of Lords, in which the gunpowder was finally placed. When the plot was exposed on 5 November 1605, Percy immediately fled to the Midlands, catching up with the others en route. They were besieged in Staffordshire on 8 November by the pursuing Sheriff of Worcester and his men; Percy and Catesby were killed. (more...)
Confuse? There was no bonfire, and the person died 8 Nov, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
The point is that 5 November, aka "Bonfire Night" in the UK, is the day that the "Gunpowder plot" is commemorated, being the date in 1605 on which the conspiracy to blow up king and parliament was discovered. Percy is only really noteworthy because of his involvement with the plot; his death date three days later has no actual significance. For that reason I agree with the IP above. Brianboulton (talk) 17:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

November 6

William Jennings Bryan presidential campaign, 1896

William Jennings Bryan speaking during the campaign 1896

In 1896, William Jennings Bryan ran for U.S. president. The former Democratic congressman from Nebraska, who gained his party's presidential nomination in July of that year after electrifying the Democratic National Convention with his Cross of Gold speech, was defeated in the general election by the Republican candidate, former Ohio governor William McKinley. Born in 1860, Bryan grew up in rural Illinois and in 1887 moved to Nebraska, where he practiced law and entered politics. He won election to the House of Representatives in 1890, and was re-elected in 1892, before mounting an unsuccessful US Senate run. Despite the loss, he set his sights on higher office, believing he could be elected president in 1896 even though he remained a relatively minor figure in the Democratic Party. In anticipation of a presidential campaign, he spent much of 1895 and early 1896 making speeches across the United States; his oratory, for which he was noted, increased his popularity in his party. Bryan often spoke on the issue of the currency. He undertook an extensive tour by rail to bring his campaign to the people, speaking some 600 times, to an estimated 5,000,000 listeners. His campaign focused on silver, an issue which failed to appeal to the urban voter, and he was defeated. (more...)
Gerda, what does "as pending request" mean? Are you the nominator? The date relevance will not be obvious to everyone. When did we last have a similar article? NB Bryan's Cross of Gold speech from this same campaign was FA on July 9th. If you are going to nominate things, please do so properly. Johnbod (talk) 14:03, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

November 13

Horseshoe Curve (Pennsylvania)

View of the horseshoe bend from the air

Horseshoe Curve is a 3,485-foot (1,062 m), triple-tracked, railroad curve on the Norfolk Southern Railway's Pittsburgh Line in Logan Township, Blair County in the U.S. state of Pennsylvania. It is close to 1,300 feet (400 m) in diameter and has a grade of almost 2 percent. As a train travels west from Altoona, it ascends almost 60 feet (20 m) in the 0.66-mile (1.06 km) segment that makes up the curve and rotates 220 degrees. The curve was completed in 1854 by the Pennsylvania Railroad as a means of lessening the grade to the summit of the Allegheny Mountains by increasing the distance. It was built as alternative to the time-consuming Allegheny Portage Railroad, the only other method of traversing the mountains. It has formed an important part of the region's transport infrastructure since its opening, and during World War II was targeted by Nazi Germany in 1942 as a part of Operation Pastorius. Horseshoe Curve was added to the National Register of Historic Places and designated a National Historic Landmark in 1966. It was also designated a National Historic Civil Engineering Landmark in 2004. Since its opening, Horseshoe Curve has been a tourist attraction. A trackside observation park for visitors was completed in 1879. The park was renovated and a visitor center constructed in the early 1990s. (more...)
Nov 13 is the date is was listed as a National Historic Landmark and on the National Register of Historic Places.

November 17

Metroid Prime

Metroid Prime is a video game developed by Retro Studios and Nintendo for the Nintendo GameCube, released in North America in 2002 and in Japan and Europe the following year. It is the first 3D game in the Metroid series, the fifth main installment, and is classified by Nintendo as a first-person adventure rather than a first-person shooter, due to the large exploration component of the game and its precedence over combat. Like previous games in the series, Metroid Prime has a science fiction setting, in which players control the bounty hunter Samus Aran. The story follows Samus as she battles the Space Pirates and their biological experiments on the planet Tallon IV. The game was a collaborative effort between Retro's staff in Austin, Texas and Japanese Nintendo employees, including producer Shigeru Miyamoto, who was the one who suggested the project after visiting Retro's headquarters in 2000. Despite initial backlash from fans due to the first-person perspective, the game was released to both universal acclaim and commercial success, selling more than a million units in North America alone.(more...)

Five points: Date marks the tenth anniversary of the game's release. Featured since 2008, and I'm the main contributor. Last VG article on the main page was in September 20, which can lead to a two month break if no such TFA appears in October. igordebraga ≠ 03:37, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

November 20

Windsor Castle

A red coloured castle with battlements and towers lies in the distance Windsor Castle is a medieval castle and royal residence in Windsor in the English county of Berkshire, notable for its long association with the British royal family and for its architecture. The original motte-and-bailey castle, built after the Norman invasion by William the Conqueror, was designed to protect Norman dominance around the outskirts of London and to oversee a strategically important part of the River Thames. The castle's lavish early 19th-century State Apartments are architecturally significant, and the 15th-century St George's Chapel is an outstanding example of English Perpendicular Gothic design. Since the time of Henry I it has been used by a succession of monarchs and is the longest-occupied palace in Europe. A popular tourist attraction, it is used as a venue for hosting state visits, and is the Queen's preferred weekend home. It was used as a refuge for the royal family during the Second World War and survived a fire on 20 November 1992. More than five hundred people live and work in Windsor, making it the largest inhabited castle in the world. (more...)

Four points: 20th anniversary of the fire, and a widely covered topic. Old-school citations, but everything else is first-rate. -- Dianna (talk) 22:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

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