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Template:Commonwealth Realms

Your input on Template:Commonwealth Realms would be appreciated as a dispute has broken out over the changes you made to it. - SimonP 23:23, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

comment

Mediation is a long-term process, unless things go to arbitration. -SV|t 05:26, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Monarchy in Canada has been protected

I would suggest a request for mediation again if the process hasn't started yet. When it needs unprotection, let me know. I will put the page on my watchlist. --Woohookitty 01:14, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Administrator?

Hi, I noticed that you are an administrator, but your edit history is only a few weeks. Did you used to go by a different name? Also, I couldn't find your admin vote, or your promotion in the burecrat log. Do you know why this is?

Sorry for my curiosity - but you have to admit, this is a little strange.

Commonwealth Realms

Took a look at the Talk page as requested. Thanks for asking, but no, I'm not diving back into that morass. Until you guys stop worrying about the finest details of constitutional niceties and start worrying a bit more about communicating to readers looking for information you are not going to get anywhere. --Chris Bennett 18:32, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Request

Could you look over the Albert Edward Smith page? CJCurrie 02:35, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

A diversion

I know this isn't your usual bailliwick, H., but if you have anything to add to the Committee on Monetary and Economic Reform I've just created, I would be interested to read it. Thanks. Ground Zero 22:00, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks for your contribution. If you're interested, I have also created an article on the Pilgrims of Saint Michael, another wonderfully wacky band of socreds. Ground Zero 17:34, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Larry Campbell

Hi, I was just a bit confused as to why you reverted my edits to Larry Campbell, I think its a very unique and cool situation where a current mayor has been appointed to the Canadian Senate and thus entitled to being "His Worship the Honourable". Normally you see, "His Honour the Honourable" or "His Excellency the Right Honourable", but never "His Worship the Honourable", which of course will lapse as soon as the new Mayor is sworn into office. User:Eddo

Honourifics

Hi, the following is just a cut and paste of what I posted on that Canadian peoples/titles thing, sorry its 12:10AM right now and my brain is tired. ":If you think these titles are "excessively formal" isn't that your own POV? I don't think mayors are worshipful at all, but that style comes his office. You stated that 'you'd prefer not to use them in articles on Senators' well that constitutes your own POV. According to the Titles chart used by the Ministry of Canadian Heritage, Senators are titled "Honourable" just as Privy Counsellors are "Honourable". And these 'few users' that you are referring to, such as myself, I don't go around to articles and change every little thing to "His Worship does this, and that, or this or that," or "The Honourable Minister on this date did something", their titles are written in the beggining, and thereafter, its a simple "he did this, or he did that." That situation does not display any POV. Furthermore, we should be removing the titles of Lieutenant Governors, as they are Representatives of the Crown, and since the Governor General starts with "Her Excellency the Right Honourable....." then why can't the Lieutenant Governors start with "His Honour the Honourable......". If people arn't going to the bodies of the articles and typing "His Majesty/His Honour/His Excellency/His Worship did this or that" but only had that in the beginning of articles, that should be fine. A lot of people find Misplaced Pages to be educational, by having their formal titles in the beginning, it will be beneficial to readers, and having them only at the beginning, it would not be overly formal, and will not exhibit POV. I think this is a good option for Misplaced Pages to follow. User:Eddo"

The following part is new. Andy, I really hope that your not suddenly reverting all my various edits on all the various pages I've visited for somewhat personal reasons. I do not wish to offend you by any chance, but I'm just feeling really bad right now. I've read all your arguements with gbambio or something like that, and it seems like you have a very anti-momarchist, anti-formality, thing going on. I noticed by looking at the history of some pages, like Larry Campbell, or James Bartleman, that you've haven't made any edits to them, then suddenly you come up and erase their opening titles. Now, I've stood aside and read your arguements with gbam..and I hardly even intervene, in fact almost never. Then suddenly, today, you start editings the sites that I frequent often, and taking out most of my edits. Now, I know all the articles I look at are monarchy, government, canada related, and while I am a monarchist, I never push my POV. I just thought that my edits would be beneficial to Misplaced Pages by making it more informative and educational. If I really was trying to push POV, or some freako bound by all correct formalities, then I would be writing "On February so and so, His Excellency opened Parliament for the 4th time.. etc etc etc" But I've always limited formal titles to the beginning, and used normal pronouns in the body of the articles, because just like you, I know those people are just normal human beings as well. I always felt that Misplaced Pages encourages the blending of ideas, thats why people can make edits, or else it'll just be the same as Encarta right? I really hope I didn't offend you, its just when you suddenly making reverts on my edits, and knowing that you've had arguements with gbam.. i just got really scared that you might be coming after me. Once again, I really do not wish to offend you, I just finished writing my LSAT in June and finished a brutal summer semester at UBC and I'm quite emotional/stressed out lately. Misplaced Pages, surprisinly allows me to blow off steam. I never push POV, but I thought having the formal titles at the beginning and ONLY at the beginning, it might be my way of benefiting Misplaced Pages. I just hope that you will agree to the sort of compromise that I'm sort of proposing. Although I just turned 21, I'm technically an adult, and I'm sure we can solve this by coming 50-50 and being reasonable. Just because your an administrator doesn't mean that Misplaced Pages is any more yours than mine. I hope this statement didn't offend you as well, I know you must have worked hard to get admin status, and I respect that. I just hope that you can respect my way of aiding Misplaced Pages, without pushing POV. Thanks for your time. User:Eddo

AVD

AVD is again violating the tempban against posting to pages related to flags, Canada or fascism, this time by posting to Talk:Canada . Homey 19:26, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

I think editing the talk page is probably ok so long as he does not over do it. Fred Bauder 21:26, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the nomination for adminship. I am very honoured, and I appreciate the kind words. Regards, Ground Zero 14:23, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Many Thanks

Thanks for supporting my RFA. It couldn't have happened without your effort. FeloniousMonk 17:54, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Manitoba SPC leaders

Do you have any additional information on Robert B. Russell and George Armstrong? CJCurrie 02:40, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Mark Weber of the IHR

Someone claiming to be Mark Weber of the Institute for Historical Review is complaining on the Talk: page there. Perhaps you would like to respond. Jayjg 20:36, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Elders list

Thanks for sending this. I'm a little disturbed to find my name close to the bottom as a "useful idiot." I may have to write in to demand an upgrade. ;-) SlimVirgin 22:33, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

No need to. I'll put you higher up on the list, and homeontherange can take your place as a "useful idiot". I had no idea you were a full-blooded "Elder", SlimVirgin. My apologies for this oversight. Amalekite 13:04, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for dealing with him. I went there to do it myself and saw you'd beaten me to it. SlimVirgin 23:21, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Aw. And I was having so much fun... Tomer 23:37, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Don't worry, Tomer, there'll be another one along soon to take his place, and you can have your fun again. SlimVirgin 02:24, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, Tomer, don't worry! There may even be a few to come along and take his place! Amalekite 03:27, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Bob Welch

Hi,

That wasn't me i've actually never heard of this guy. I guess I hadn't loged out and my brother did it. I think he must have seen that he was listed as 'the honourable and assumed he was a P.C. - sorry about that. Dowew 21:28, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Adminship

Thank you again for nominating me for adminship. I am honoured that you and otehrs think highly enough of my contributions here to nominate me and vote for the nomination. The admin powers will enable me to patrol for vandals more effectively, amongst other things. I promise to use my new powers for good, and not to inflict the retribution on my enemies that they so richly deserve, as tempting as that may be. ;-) Thanks again, Kevin. Ground Zero 12:43, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Canada Free Press

Anon editor keeps deleting references to toronto free press (verifiable) and Paul Fromm (don't know). Do you have evidence? Ground Zero 19:05, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

• Same problem at Judi McLeod. Ground Zero 20:03, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

• Greetings. I'd just like you to be sure you're using credible, verifiable sources and avoiding original research in your edits to the Canada Free Press and Judi McLeod articles; they have been the target of a smear campaign recently and are concerned that those responsible are attempting to defame them on Misplaced Pages as well. The edits you initially made to Judi McLeod contain material that they dispute that appears to have come from disputed sources. I hope this doesn't seem rude; I'd just wanted to point this out before it becomes a problem. It appears you and Hobbes000 have discussion in hand. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 21:47, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

An anonymous IP editor made the initial edit to Paul Fromm. I imported that info to the CFP and Judi McLeod articles when I tried to rewrite them from the point-form contributions someone had made into genuine articles. I've tried to contact the original contributor and asked him/her to provide a souce. If that isn't done then I agree the material shouldn't be included and, in fact, it has been removed pending verifiecation. Homey 13:10, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your response and your efforts. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 16:51, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

VfD on De facto head of state

Hi. I have removed the VfD on De facto head of state. I can't seem to find any sign that you followed step 3 of Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion#How to list pages for deletion which perhaps explains why it was not closed before now. Anyhow, there was no consensus to delete. If you still feel strongly that this article ought to go through VfD, may I suggest that you relist it and start again? Cheers, Bovlb 05:38:12, 2005-08-24 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Busta.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Busta.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag, so its copyright status is therefore unclear. Please add a tag to let us know its copyright status. (If you created/took the picture then you can use {{gfdl}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairuse}}.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know on the image description page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Otherwise, see Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. Thanks so much. --Sanbec 13:28, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Rachel Marsden

There is a revert war in the Rachel Marsden article. User talk:Glowball insists that mentioning criminal convictions is libel, several other users have reverted his/her edits. I know little of Marsden and have never seen the O'Reilly Show which she is apparenty a guest on. I got your name from the edit history of the article. I see you have contributed a number of edits so i believe you are familiar with the subject. And since you are an admin I'm hoping you excel at conflict resolution. Please look into this and see if you can help. Thank you. --maclean25 20:29, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Asking for help! The user has violated the 3RR rule at this point. Is a block possible? I can't even revert it now to not break the rule. Thanks in advance. 66.36.147.138 02:20, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out. However, as this case went well beyond vandalism and a revert war, I took it to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents which attracted the attention of several other admins. They have blocked Glowball's sockpuppets. I'm actually starting to think that Glowball was actually Marsden, herself (psycho stalker). --maclean25 06:40, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm new to Misplaced Pages, and this is a request for help. User talk:Mark_Bourrie keeps removing large portions of the Rachel Marsden article despite being asked not to in the discussion section. I believe he has now violated the 3RR rule. Is a block possible? Thanks for any help or guidance you can give. -- 01 February 2006 User:Wiederaufbau

Hi again Homey. I see that someone is using a public terminal at the National Library of Canada in Ottawa to erase sections of the Rachel Marsden article again - once on 16:16, 1 February 2006 from 142.78.56.9 and once on 19:04, 2 February 2006 from 142.78.64.223. I suspect it may be User talk:Mark_Bourrie, since I see he was banned. I've already reverted once and asked to deal with this in discussion, but to no avail. I'm new to Misplaced Pages and thought I better ask for advice first. How should I proceed? Thanks for any help you can give. Wiederaufbau 19:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey Homey. Hate to bother you again, but it looks like User_talk:Mark_Bourrie is now using sockpuppets 142.78.56.9 and 142.78.64.223 (both public terminals in the National Library of Canada) to blank sections of Rachel Marsden. User:Cyberboomer, User:Hall Monitor and I had our hands full reverting him yesterday. Can these IPs be blocked? Wiederaufbau 17:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Placing users in danger

Andy, FYI Wikipedia_talk:Blocking_policy#Placing_users_in_danger SlimVirgin 02:23, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

How do I get an admin's attention?

User Imdaking has deleted a lot of content from my talk page. This content was my documentation of his use of multiple identities to harrass me. He's angry because I discovered his sock puppeting last night. Where do I have to go to get timely action on this? Paul Klenk 06:16, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Ted McWhinney

Unfortunately, Stauffer doesn't have a copy of The Governor General and the Prime Ministers. I could place an order, but I suspect someone else will have found a copy by the time it finally arrives.

I might be able to get a copy from a professor. CJCurrie 19:19, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

For all its faults, Kingston remains a good city for pedestrians (and those of us who just don't like taking the bus).

Getting back to TM's book ... I could also check to see if the campus bookstore has a copy. I'm not sure how generous their loitering policy is, but I could probably find the relevant quote without too much effort. (If it's there.)

• I just checked, and it isn't. sigh ... CJCurrie 21:31, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Alternately, I wonder if any of our Ottawa contributors have access to it? CJCurrie 21:27, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Featured picture candidate

Hi, I nominated a picture that you uploaded called Reichstag tn.jpg for featured picture status. If you want to vote on it you can [[Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/RedFlag|here. Jobe6 07:44, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Your request

I gave it a go, but I'm afraid I don't have much of a will to fight with grannies anymore. Sorry. Ground Zero | t 17:46, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Merle

Andy, someone removed the following paragraph from the article on Merle

"After the election his membership was stripped by the Alberta Alliance for openly critizing the party and Randy Thorsteinson and encouraging MLA Paul Hinman to defect to the Alberta Progressive Conservative Party."

Could you pull up the source so we can put it back in? --Mista-X 18:47, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Canada

That's dealt with, Homey. He assured me he wouldn't violate the injunction again, so I'm surprised to see it. SlimVirgin 21:32, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Rachel Marsden

...Well, I was impressed enough that she didn't escalate the confrontation; that she didn't raise the card McKeown figuratively called up by getting further into the personal dirt with a defense, or that she didn't lash out at him at the time. Was there a deer-in-the-headlights element there? Yes, but she faced it; that's what I meant. And I could swear the response with O'Reilly she at least half laughed it off, as in 'it's a hatchet job... but about what you'd expect from the CBC.'

So that's what I meant, fwiw. Your write is better, though.

I've also made the lede a bit less hypeish; maybe too much time in the past watching VfD has made me a bit defensive about how notable everything is.

...Anyway, something just wasn't sitting right about the article. It wouldn't be here were she only known for the harassment cases; her life as a (minor) pundit had to be brought up and fleshed out somehow.

And I'll admit to reservations about the photo. What if someone put up Svend Robinson's picture from that fundraising remove-a-fig-leaf thing for the main image for him? Samaritan 15:56, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Don

Homey, Don has deleted the posts as agreed. Check your e-mail for more details. Cheers, SlimVirgin 05:58, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Bringing Misplaced Pages to Toronto

I've been working on a bid to bring Wikimania 2006 to Toronto. I have contacted KMDI, an institute at the University of Toronto. They are very interested in partnering with us, and can get us a full range of U of T facilities for free. With this offer I think there is a very good chance of bringing Wikimania 2006 to Toronto. The only thing we currently lack are people willing to help out. I'm willing to do much of the work, but for the time being I am in Ottawa and having some people on the ground in Toronto will be necessary. We also need a number of people willing to assist at the actual event, likely the first weekend of August 2006. If you are interested in helping out sign up at Wikimania 2006/Toronto. Preliminary bids from various cities need to be made by Sept. 30, 2005, at which point a committee will choose which city gets to host the event. The number of people willing to help will certainly be an important consideration. - SimonP 16:21, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Image deletion

Listed under Misplaced Pages:Images and media for deletion/2005 September 12. Thunderbrand 21:07, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Actually, Image:16thcentcom.png is being used, while Image:16thcentcom.gif is an orphan and a duplicate. Thunderbrand 00:24, September 13, 2005 (UTC)

Please do not edit these articles

Please do not edit Rachel Marsden, Judi McLeod, or Canada Free Press for a few days. We have a very strong complaint about your behavior on those articles and for now it seems best to me if you avoid them while we get to the bottom of it.

This is a request, not an order.  :-)

--Jimbo Wales 19:18, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

To followup, there has been no legal complaint, just an ordinary complaint. Can you tell me: are you employed by or associated with a competing publication? Are you a political activist (in any organized sense) who opposes them in some specific way? Do you personally know Rachel or Judi? I ask because there seems to be some concern that you're deliberately engaged in a campaign against Rachel Marsden.

Please do not take offense at my questions, I'm merely being responsible about following up on a complaint. :-)--Jimbo Wales 12:34, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Blocked for 3RR violation on Canada's name

You have been blocked for 24 hours for a violation of 3RR on the page Canada's name. If you have any questions, leave a message on YOUR talk page; I will watch your talk page and try to answer any questions you may have on the block. Ral315 17:09, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Whoops, misjudged the time. Oh well, I guess I'll take a short break then. Homey 18:39, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I appreciate your views on the block. I figured it was an accidental, given that you stopped at 4 reverts, and didn't revert when ArmchairVexillologistDon put it to his version, but I had to treat them equally. Let me know if he continues to revert, and I'll consider protecting the page, but I hope that you both can work it out, one way or another, and it doesn't come to having to protect it. Ral315 21:50, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I could have sworn it was you...and I can't find the complaint right now. I'll follow up on it, and correct myself on AVD's page if necessary. Ral315 21:55, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Status of arbitration

With respect to Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/ArmchairVexillologistDon/Proposed decision what do you want us to do. We have recent reports that information regarding you remains posted, but I have no idea where that is (use wikimail to contact me if you wish to tell me the url). There is a note withdrawing the arbitration. It that to be interpreted as an acceptance of ArmhairVexillogist's apology on the talk page as a full settlement of disputes between you? Fred Bauder 15:38, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

german elections

btw , CDU gets 2 seats more than SDP Aleichem 23:26, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Ballot counts in Germany's federal election show Angela Merkels's Christian Democrats wins 2 seats more than Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's Social Democrats. Among smaller parties the 'liberalen' beat the Green Party and the new Left Party.

A BBC report had said the two parties were "tied" in the Bundestag according to projections. Obviously we now have more accurate info. Homey 01:57, 19 September 2005 (UTC

u are bad informed gtz ;-) Aleichem 07:12, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Image:La marsh.jpg image source

Do you have a source for this image (will soon be deleted otherwise) ? --Duk 15:07, 2 October 2005 (UTC) ps - see image talk page

Request for Comment regarding ArmchairVexillologistDon

I have filed a "Request for Comment" regarding the behaviour of ArmchairVexillologistDon. Perhaps I am being naive, but I am hoping that hearing the views of others will convince him that his approach has often not been in keeping with the spirit of the Misplaced Pages community. I am wondering if you would be willing to certify the basis for the dispute at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/ArmchairVexillologistDon. I don't want to draw you into this matter, but I need another user's certification before it can go forward. I know that you have encountered his rudeness, despite your being civil and reasonable toward him. HistoryBA 02:14, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I made a comment at the RFC, but I personally feel that this user, after the RFAr was over, it looked like he went back to his old ways. While I have not ran into him again for a while now, but I personally find this very troubling. Zach (Sound Off) 05:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, Homeontherange. I understand why you don't want to be part of this. I appreciate your suggestion that I contact others. I've already tried Saxifrage, who hasn't been on Misplaced Pages in a few days. I'll try GroundZero as well. I hope I can find someone soon. As another helpful editor explained to me, an RFC can only go forward if it is certified by two users who have been involved in a dispute with the party in question. HistoryBA 00:50, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Patrick Asselin

You will notice that one of the main changes that I made was to break up long sentences into shorter ones. This makes the article easier to read, especially for those reading English as a second or foreign language. Even for native English-speakers, sentences that have several clauses tacked together can be confusing. As you found out, I was not entirely clear who was doing what in at least one of the sentences. And yes, I think that HistoryBA is being naive in thinking that the RFC will change Don's behaviour. It is probably only one step. Regards. Ground Zero | t 21:53, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

John Sandfield Macdonald

It should definitely be Macdonald..The Dictionary of Canadian Biography is very careful about these things, and can safely be regarded as authoritative. Also the definitive biography of him renders the name that way (see ref. at the bottom of ), as does the Encyclopaedia Brittanica . Finally, all of the other family members I know about (two were also MPs) rendered the name Macdonald. Cheers, Fawcett5 20:39, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

French ensigns

You seem to have had problem with that page and after checking it out, I have to concur for the reason I wrote here ]. How do you go about making it a candidate for deletion ?--Marc pasquin 03:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that. What is the accepted behaviours for this, do I nominate right away or first wait a few days for someone to either concur or dispute my assertions ?--Marc pasquin 03:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I've made the deletion page ] so if you want to add your comments, feel free.--Marc pasquin 01:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

RFAr

I am letting you know that I have filed Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#User:ArmchairVexillologistDon_-_Reopening. Zach (Sound Off) 08:40, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

SinghaDog

Hi HOTR, I'm hoping you can help me with a VfD that's been going on over a week. User:SinghaDog has been adding the word "wenches" to several pages and I've been deleting them, but now he's created a page David C Harrison with more of it. This page is a complete hoax, but several "Keep" votes with new IPs have shown up. I checked their edits and, sure enough, they've been adding more "wenches" crap to pages.

1. Could you delete the David C Harrison page?
2. How can I watch a user's Contributions page to be alerted when they edit a page?

-- Corvus 23:20, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Much appreciated. I suspect this user has been uploading image files with the word "wench" in the filename as well. Is there any way to search for this? -- Corvus 02:27, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Kim Jong Il

there is now a poll at Talk:Kim Jong-il on "leader"/"ruler" for the Kim Jong Il article. maybe this will finally put the silly, protracted debate to rest. thanks in advance for taking the time. whatever your view, i think the article just needs a bit more attention of outside parties.Appleby 21:12, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Woodbine Avenue

Can you take a look at this - Woodbine Avenue - it's an odd edit by User:0219631 but I can't say that it's wrong. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather 21:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Final decision

The arbitration committee has reached a final decision in the Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/ArmchairVexillologistDon case →Raul654 23:27, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you very, very much, for taking care of that particularly vexing problem. Ground Zero | t 20:49, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Electoral Districts

I would like to invite you to participate in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada. Discussion has begun on the many issues that need to be addressed. So please read through it, familiarize yourself with the topic and the options/examples and then participate in the debate about how the pages should best be laid out. --maclean25 07:12, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Canada Free Press & Judi McLeod

Thank you for adding the new sub-heading to the Canada Free Press page. I have done the same to the Judi McLeod page.

I'm sure Our Toronto published a short 100-word letter to the editor from Paul Fromm. I re-read it last year when going through older issues. I will look into this again.

I also intend to respond to Hobbes000's comments on the relevant talk pages. --Cyberboomer 22:59, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree with most of your changes to Judi McLeod. You managed to retain the essence of what I was saying.

I'm not so sure that what I wrote suffered from too much POV. In one case I simply copied your "vendetta" remark on the history page regarding Nola Crewe. You just found a more elegant way to phrase things. I guess the problem is that having spent a weekend reading Our Toronto back issues, Judi McLeod's own "writing style" rubbed off on me.

It's also tricky trying to find the appropriate words to describe her behaviour. What is a non-objectionable way of saying Judi McLeod has smeared people especially when the smears are horrendously defamatory? I figured that "maligned" was a better word than "smeared".

I've made several other changes.

I've removed the "Al Bundy" reference since you removed the other childish names McLeod had for her opponents. Perhaps that wasn't clear. I wasn't taking cheapshots against Paul Henderson, Don Wanagas or the others.

I've also removed Ezra Levant from the list of friends-turned-enemies. I don't really consider Levant worthy of inclusion. Although they had a strong disagreement about Rachel Marsden, I suspect that it was only a mild falling out. They probably still have a stable working relationship. On the other hand, McLeod's relationship with O'Donohue, Layton and too many others go beyond bizarre. In other words, it was enough to make one's jaw drop.

Shame about the "thin-skinned hypocrite" paragraph. I wish that should stay. Have to think about some way of rephrasing it.

I do appreciate you adding the information about John Clarke to the CFP page.

Once again, thank you for your excellent changes. --Cyberboomer 23:29, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Handing and the Klan

I've reverted your edits regarding Warren G. Harding in the Ku Klux Klan, the same arguments were removed in September 2005 because they lack doucmented primary evidence to that proves Wyn Craig's point. If you are unfamiliar with Wyn Craig's claims, then you will know (and note) that Craig used secondhand information taken from a reporter who claimed to have been at the deathbed confession of a Klan member who claimed to be at Harding's initiation. No appointment books from White House detail any such visit, none of Harding paper's in the Ohio Historical Society or Marion County Historical Society show any evidence that this happened. Robert Ferrell (Starnge Deaths of President Harding), Carl Anthony (Florence Harding) or John Dean (Warren Harding, The American President Series) all of which have written well reviewed and accurate books on Harding have never been able to prove Craig's claims.

Unless someone can provide primary source material (from a relaible source that can be verified) that unequivically proves Harding's membership in the Klan, the rumored swearing in/Klan membership should stay out of the article. Misplaced Pages is about presenting verifiable information that is accurate, not about presenting "rumors" and hearsay. Stu 01:18, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Since you have carried this conversation over to my talk page, I should note that I have posted my answer over there. I respect your right to an opinion, but disagree with you on validity of the claims that you make based on Wade and especially on Wyn Craig's faulty research. Stu

TDC

I noticed you have been getting in a revert war with TDC on human rights in Cuba. Probably not surprising to you, you are not alone. See: Talk:Winter Soldier Investigation, Talk:Air America Radio, TDC has been rebuked by Tony Sidaway Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:TDC

So if it continues contact Tony. And TDC can be booted for a 12th/13th time. Travb 17:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Request

If you have a chance, could you look at the discussion on Talk:Chris Buors? CJCurrie 20:13, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Summaries now available. StrangerInParadise 19:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Chris Buors

My thumbnail sketch:

• 1. A few weeks ago, an anonymous poster added three quotes attributed to Buors to the Misplaced Pages bio page. My judgement was that this anonymous post was defamatory in intent, but that two of the quotes were accurate and salient (one of these has such been discarded as gratuitous).
• 2. The quote currently under discussion concerns Buors's personal views on homosexuality, as expressed in a public forum a few months ago. My view is that these comments, as the public statements of a registered party leader, are appropriate for the article.
• 3. User:StrangerInParadise has raised two objections, respectively concerning original research and reliability. I think the former has been dealt with, but there is still some controversy as to the latter.
• 4. The current objection seems to involve sourcing, and specifically the use of a web-posting that could eventually disappear from the public record. My view is that, as the post can be referenced now, and its existence can be (and has been) verified by a number of Wikipedians, there is no reason to discount its validity.
• 5. I'm also concerned about a possible attempt to undermine Misplaced Pages's autonomy. The disputed Buors quote appears to have been deleted from the public message board after its appearance on Misplaced Pages, and as the result of a corresponding amplification of discussion concerning Buors's views. (The current quote-link leads to a Google cache.) I'm not comfortable with the prospect of potentially damaging information being "wiped from the slate" as a result of its inclusion here.

Your comments are welcome. CJCurrie 21:24, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

On a semi-related topic, what is your view about including election results on candidate biography pages? CJCurrie 21:25, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Possible Michael Coren vandalism

Please keep an eye on the Michael Coren page. User:69.194.240.220 has a history of vandalizing pages and keeps trying to insert questionable information which other users have reverted. --Cyberboomer 01:04, 10 November 2005 (UTC)00:59, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Clayton Ruby

Hi, I'm guessing you have a reason, but why did you add Clayton Ruby to Category:Anarchists? On the face of it, it seems like an odd classification for a lawyer. --Saforrest 02:14, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough. I think my surprise was reasonable: left-wing and anti-establishment doesn't necessarily imply anarchist. Thanks for the quick reply. --Saforrest 03:02, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Electoral records

It's more a matter of how the article flows and presentation ie an article whose text consists entirely of "He won this election by 100 votes, and that election by 300 but lost the next one by 700" is quite dull.

As a leading culprit on this front, I'd noticed -- this was my primary rationale for the new approach.

My feeling is that these charts are appropriate unless they take up a ridiculous amount a space (Turmel would be an obvious example) -- and in those cases, a separate page could suffice. We may have to hash this out at some point in the future. CJCurrie 22:44, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Greg Gogan

Do you know if NDP candidate Greg Gogan (Scarborough Centre) is the same Greg Gogan who led the Option Canada Party in 1991? CJCurrie 05:14, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, he is.

favor?

Would you look at this and comment on both Hogeye's and my points? Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 00:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Browser/System incompatible with UTF

What browser are you using? It's ruining all UTF characters in the articles you edit... bogdan | 15:33, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Let me second that. See for instance this diff. Please revert your own changes there and in other articles (I've already done it in the Stalin article). And fix your browser ;-). Shanes 15:38, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, accidentally logged on with the wrong browser. Anyway, if you're reverting please change Category:Communist dictators to Category:Communist rulers. Homey 15:40, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

André Boisclair elected

Thank you for adding a mention of the election at the head of the Parti Québécois at the In the News section. Could you consider adding a link to the event and article Parti Québécois leadership election, 2005? THIS is the event that took place, so it should be mentioned, and also, that article is much more informative on what actually happened.

I would also suggest bringing it closer to your original version, since now someone has modified it, making Boisclair's being gay seem like the only thing notable. That is questionable (it may be offensive to gays in a sense), and a new talented leader of a left-wing independence party is important in itself.

It could also be useful to specify the nature of the party, which is "the main sovereigntist and social democratic party in Quebec". I'd understand if space concerns prevented that, however.

Suggestions:

• André Boisclair wins the 2005 leadership election of the Parti Québécois, the main sovereigntist and social democratic party in Quebec. He becomes the first openly gay politician to lead a major political party in North America.

• André Boisclair wins the 2005 leadership election of the Parti Québécois, the main independence and social democracy party in Quebec. He becomes the first openly gay politician to lead a major political party in North America.

• André Boisclair wins the 2005 leadership election of the Parti Québécois. He becomes the first openly gay politician to lead a major political party in North America.

Thanks. --Liberlogos 23:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for adapting it. This version is better, not only because it includes the link to the election, but also because it indeed brings it back to the sense that his being gay isn't all there is to it. I also think it was wise of you not to throw cocaine in the sentence since more context is needed and because it could have fallen into sensationalism.

On the Social democracy of the party in question, I will say that I do think it is reasonable to say that it is basically a social democratic party (despite some historical conjectural variations all social democratic parties have executed), especially now with the new platform adopted at the 2005 National Council (the same that saw Landry's resignation announcement) that is indeed genuinely progressive (and mentions "social democracy", or "social democratic", many times, word for word). Of course, I understand why you think it can't be included within the In the News section for space concerns.

If you have any time, I'll invite you to check out my humble study of the social democracy in the Parti Québécois' parent party, the Bloc Québécois, here. The same scepticism was around about the Bloc and my study seemed to settled the question. I intend to do the same for the Parti Québécois when I have the chance (I'll post that at the PQ article talk page).

As for Boisclair, I would not say he's neoliberal, but impressions can make it seem that he is not as much to the left as some of us would like to (I have addressed it in the leadership article to which I am somehow main contributor). We'll see the future holds, but at least he has repeatedly pledged to defend that same progressive platform. It's always fun to collaborate between Wikipedians, so thanks again. --Liberlogos 04:12, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Joseph Tweed Shaw

Unfortunately, I don't know when he resigned as leader. I assume it happened before the 1930 election, but I don't know the specifics. CJCurrie 22:10, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Important AfD

Hello again! I haven't run into you in a while. (Until a couple of weeks ago I hadn't even noticed the new name.) If you have time please take a look at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of modern day dictators. I'm a bit worried that the main protagonist for the keep side is threatening to reverse the long-established consensus against creating historical categorization schemes on Misplaced Pages based on editors' original research. Best regards. 172 22:35, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Thomas J. Hagerty

I notice that you have added category:ChristianSocialists. I had added Category:Communist because the text stated that he had been a Marxist from before his ordination. May I know why then have you categorized him as "Christian Socialist"? Did he return to a belief, in whatever form, in Christianity? If so, before, or simultaneous to adding this category, you should add such a statement, shouldn't you? And if he returned to Christianity, he does not meet the qualification of being a Communist, but of being a "former Communist" (or Marxist), doesn't he?

Regards,

WikiSceptic 18:29, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

One can be *both* a Marxist and a Christian simultaneously. Now true, there are many Marxists who say you cannot along with many Christians but, nevertheless, there are individuals, some of whom are listed as "Christian socialists" who professed to be both. Homey 19:12, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Please, will you assert that one can be both a Muslim and a "Kafir" and face the consequences of it? Is it merely because Christians are generally not militant but are easygoing that one believes that one can offend and insult them and get away with it? I am aware that there are "Christian Socialists" and I can have no problem with them, except rejecting them as heretics, because the label is legitimate in that they, even though mistakenly, believe that they can be both Christians and Socialists. But there is no basis for claiming the same with Hagerty, or if there is, you must insert it into that article first (and probably prove it, but it is my policy not to fight on subjects on which I know nothing). I would suggest that you either prove that Hagerty met the definition of Christian Socialist or that you remove that categorization. Of course, this is not too important for me, and I will cease following up this matter from here on. WikiSceptic 03:15, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

You seem to think there is no such thing as a Christian Socialist. Nevertheless, there are a number of people who have asserted to be both and there is an entire "Christian Socialist" school of thought. Perhaps you should read the Christian socialist article?Homey 03:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

According to Joyce Kornbluh, Hagerty was:

"a Catholic priest from New Mexico who had been converted to Marxism even before his ordination in 1892. Suspended by his archbishop for urging Telluride miners to revolt during his tour of Colorado mining camps in 1903, his formal association with the church ended at this time, although he insisted that be was still a priest in good standing"

Note that he was converted to Marxism *before* his ordination yet went ahead with it and continued to regard himself as a priest even after the was expelled. Evidently he thought of himself as both a Marxist and a Christian regardless of your opinion of him. Do you have any evidence that he ceased to regard himself as a Christian once he became a socialist? Homey 03:51, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Dear Ma'am, - Thanks for the reply. What is important is Hagerty's insistence that he continued to remain a priest "in good standing", so that therefore he qualifies as a "Christian Socialist"; that much is enough, and all the above would have been avoided if you had provided this quote earlier. As for his "insistence", I can only say that I feel sorry for him and his self-deceit! A man who was very well educated, and educated in a Catholic seminary may deceive himself, but knows that when he has effectively ceased to be Catholic, and has been cast out, is is deep spiritual trouble, and if he truly believed in Catholicism, would have taken the trouble to cease and reform his ways. One's soul is more important that matters of this earth, however justified one's notions may be or not be. It remains a fact that there can be no animal that is both wolf and lamb, so that there cannot be anyone who is truly Christian and Socialist, self-deceit apart. WikiSceptic 04:16, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Ma'am? Anyway, the article already said he became a Marxist prior to his ordination so the fact that he was both a Christian and a socialist should have been evident. I think you're allowing your personal views interfere. NPOV is an important principle at wikipedia. Homey 04:47, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Dear Homey, - Sorry about the "Ma'am" part. My mistake. I keep my "NPOVs" out of entries, and I do not believe that I have permitted it to enter the Hagerty page. Talk pages are another matter, and I do not believe that Misplaced Pages's NPOV rules apply there. And, it was not apparent to me that he was a Christian Socialist merely from the info that he was a Marxist prior to his ordination, for he could have been a secret Marxist. I doubt that he informed his Seminarian authorities or his ordaining bishop of his Marxist beliefs, for they would not have ordained him otherwise. At least, by and large, it was so in those days, although today things may be seen diffently by the Catholic Church (You must know that I am post-Sedevacantist). Regards. WikiSceptic 04:58, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Your user page

I saw your userpage and, with all the work I do with sound files, couldn't help myself . Please revert if this is undesired. Raul654 00:53, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Che Guevara

"I keep my "NPOVs" out of my entries"

Doesn't seem that way looking at Che Guevara. Homey 05:23, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Dear Homey, - I don't get your drift. What is it about any connection between me and this Communist thug that you are complaining about? Can you be more explicit? Regards. WikiSceptic 05:31, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

What exactly was "POV" about my edits? That I called a terrorist a terrorist? I make no apologies; I will continue to affirm that a spade is a spade, and that Osama bin Laden, for example, is a terrorist, whether this is also considered as "not NPOV" or not, whether Misplaced Pages likes it or not. If this is Wikpedia's standards, then I can only pity Misplaced Pages! It is Misplaced Pages or those who set such "standards" and not me that demonstrates that they are pathetic! Next you will be telling me that I must not say Katyn was a massacre! WikiSceptic 05:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Canadian dissolution

Please stop adding in inaccurate entries on the Canadian dissolution. As an encyclopædia WP has to get things right. Constitutionally the Governor General can refuse a dissolution. It has been done in the past. The odds are that it won't be in this case (first time pms are usually given their first dissolution requests.) But it isn't automatic and WP cannot show complete ignorance of constitutional law by suggesting that it is automatic. Cover the facts. Don't add in POV speculation, even if it may well be right. When the GG grants the dissolution, then the page can be changed. WP would look a right fool if, as happened, the GG said no and our constitutionally illiterate front page had been telling readers that it was a done deal. FearÉIREANN 14:31, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Under constitutional law the description is may face. Nothing is certain until the ink is dry on the parchment. It is 99% likely but there is a long history worldwide, including Canada, of "certainties" not happening, of "high unlikely" things happening. Stating as fact something that is not a fact constitutionally but at best a probability is both a breach of NPOV and unencyclopædic. FearÉIREANN 14:41, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

No. We are getting into terminological accuracy, which is an automatic requirement in an encyclopædia. ITN is not a news box and as everyone regularly points out does not apply news standards. It applies encyclopædic standards. Learn the difference. FearÉIREANN 16:01, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

I never said a former footballer belonged on ITN. George Best was not just any former footballer. He was regarded as a sporting icon of the 1960s, one of the finest footballs in the history of the sport, and his long battle with alcoholism had been followed by millions worldwide for years. He is of such importance that his funeral is being held in a parliament building, plans are being made to rename an airport in his honour and the police have asked that the date when his body is flown home be changed for fear that the crowds turning out would criple and entire city traffic system. Someone with that impact is not simply some former footballer. FearÉIREANN 16:43, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Try getting a dictionary and look up the words icons, encyclopædia, etc since you seen incapable of understanding the above. And maybe you should learn how news values and encylopædia values judge factual coverage, since you obviously don't as of how understand either. FearÉIREANN 16:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Your lack of constitutional knowledge is astounding. There is no such thing bound by precedent re the gg. Precedent, like convention, is something which can be and is regularly ignored. As unwritten traditions they are quite literally not worth the paper they are written on. All a gg needs to do is decide to start a new precedent and they can. No wise governor general would throw away precedent lightly, but they are constitutionally and legally entitled to do so at any stage, as McNeill on letters of credence, and both Byng in Canada and Kerr in Austrialia on the refusal of a dissolution and withdrawal of commission of a prime minister respectively, showed. You seem not to understand the legal concept of precedent as exercised by a governor general, nor the workings of reserved powers. Legally the Governor General was fully entitled to refuse a parliamentary dissolution to the prime minister, particularly where the prime minister has lost the confidence of the House. (Precedent up until the early 20th century in many then dominions was that prime ministers did not seek a dissolution if defeated in the House but resigned. That precedent too was abandoned. Canada has explicit precedents for dissolution request refusals. Please learn your constitutional history. FearÉIREANN 17:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

I work with them all the time and written in academic textbooks on the powers, functions and duties of the Canadian, Australian, New Zealand and Irish governors-general. Your reply suggests you possess a distinctively shaky grasp of Canadian constitutional law and misunderstand superficial 50 second media soundbites on CBC for in-depth knowledge. FearÉIREANN 18:09, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Baird/Andersen

I'll be re-integrating this information with the article in a few minutes. CJCurrie 01:45, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

John R. Baird

I've finally finished my expansion/referencing of the article (and I really didn't think it would take as long as it did ...). If you have the chance, could you look it over for mistakes, omissions, etc. CJCurrie 01:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

CJN

My apologies for the capital letter mixup with Canadian Jewish News. I'm not quite sure what happened there. --Yamla 04:07, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Green party

Home, does the GPC call itself "eco-capitalist", or is that an epithet applied to it by opponents of Jim Harris' leadership? Ground Zero | t 17:09, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Where on earth?

Where on earth did you get that nonsensical version of the Queen's title for Canada? Since 1952 the UK has not featured in royal titles outside the UK. And, as the royal website makes clear, "defender of the faith" is never used outside the UK. Since 1952 the form has been to use Queen of this realm with this realm replaced by each realm. So in Australia it is Queen of Australia, in Canada Queen of Canada, etc. It is a standard format that never includes either the UK or defender of the faith.

The new oath introduced in Canada, by the way, explicitly referred to the Queen of Canada.

From this day forward, I pledge my loyalty and allegiance to Canada and Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, Queen of Canada. I promise to respect our country's rights and freedoms, to defend our democratic values, to faithfully observe our laws and fulfil my duties and obligations as a Canadian citizen.

FearÉIREANN\ 22:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

See the Department of Justice's website carrying the Consolidated Statutes and Regulations for Canada (the compendium of all federal laws extant). Specifically, this page. Homey 22:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Your post on the elections discussion page

What did your little blurb on eco-capitalism have to do with the discussion on the elections project discussion page?Skookum1 00:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Gregory Lauder-Frost

Could you look over the discussion taking place on this page? CJCurrie 23:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

There's more ...

• Western Goals Institute
• Committee for a Free Britain (I haven't changed this one yet)
• Harvey Ward

I think it might be time to take official action. CJCurrie 02:03, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

My apologies

My apologies. I thought your user name said Honey at first. I understand some of your comments but I weary of the ceaseless attacks which I feel are just so unreasonable. There are lots of people on the left, lots on the right. Surey a biography of all of them can be written without it being perverted by the opposition. I see, above, you are being called into action by CJCurrie with his stamp on them agenda. I don't know that many people on what could be called 'the Right' but I suspect it would be easy enough to gather in enough of them to come into Misplaced Pages constantly and make the mess that CJCurrie is doing, but as I don't believe its right I will not go down that path. Robert I 17:56, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

• Might one ask what you opposition to Gregory Lauder-Frost is, if its not political? Your description of "hard right" is a highly offensive and very politically biased opinion. 213.122.84.212 14:43, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

List of Jewish Fellows of the Royal Society

I note your intervention. I see that User:Antidote alleges that User:JJay is continously reverting the addition of a factual accuracy tag. In fact, the issue is a "totally disputed" tag; this is a completely different issue, as there is no reason to believe there is any bias in the article.

In my opinion, the real issue is that Antidote does not want this article (or any other list of Jews) to exist; he has twice failed with requests for deletion and twice (in one day!) attempted to delete it by the back door by renaming it to List of Fellows of the Royal Society and adding some non-Jewish names.

Antidote justifies his "totally disputed" tag on the grounds that "errors have been found" (i.e. more than one). In fact, he has done a thorough check and found only two alleged errors; in one case, he was wrong, and there is some doubt in the other case. Does this justify "totally disputed"? His other claim is that "solid source verifications for each addition are not provided". Is there a policy that each entry in a list needs an explicit reference? Has this policy been applied to other ethnic lists, such as List of African American jurists, and if not, should all of them have "totally disputed" tags?

I ask you to remove the block immediately please, and if you feel unable to do so, please say when you would be prepared to do so. - Poetlister 15:24, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

On another matter entirely ...

I've started preparing a biographical sketch for Joe Young at Communist League (Canada). Do you have any information? CJCurrie 02:19, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

John Baird talk page

Do you think that the discussion concerning Baird's sexual identity should be deleted? I've noticed that Misplaced Pages talk pages are starting to show up on Google searches, and I can understand why Baird might have legitimate privacy concerns on this front. CJCurrie 20:17, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

User:Robert I

It would be better if you asked a fellow-administrator to action blocks against users against whom you are in dispute. Bad citations can be grounds for banning, but not by an involved party. Wizzy…☎ 18:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

GLF's contributions

I had seen both of those before, but thank you. I have little doubt at this stage that GLF, his daughter and Robert Isherwood are responsible for all of the works in question (unless Isherwood is actually GLF). CJCurrie 02:43, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Banning

Could you please be careful what IP numbers you are banning, I just tried to save a lot of work to find you had banned me, I had to re-start the computer and log out three times and clear the cache before it would let me back in. Giano | talk 17:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

OK no probs Giano | talk 17:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Dominion

If that is the case, please put it under Dominion (British Empire) or something similar, as the main page was and should be a disambiguation since there is no one primary usage from an NPOV. (Within the British Empire and former colonies, that may be the primary usage, but outside that POV, people have hardly heard of it used in this way.) Thanks! Narco 19:49, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

LOL! I meant the angel, not the Star Trek definition. But it's not worth arguing about; it's the way things are done and should stay as it is. Narco 22:26, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

RFA

There may be at least one relevant precedent for a situation like this. I discovered the situation of User:DW a while ago: the user was "hard banned", and subsequent sockpuppets known or believed to be the same user have also been banned. I'm not certain what procedure was used to determine the identity of the sockpuppets, though it seems to have just been reasonable deduction in some cases.

Perhaps something similar could be arranged here.

I certainly agree that there are grounds for an RFA: we've had legal threats, intimidation, and generally uncivil behaviour in addition to the bad citations. CJCurrie 02:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

RFA2

I have formally requested arbitration on the CMC/GLF matter. CJCurrie 00:49, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Conservative Monday Club

(Not about the RFAr - I haven't gone into that.) I don't think it's specially helpful to have edit wars simply about prominence of the 'far-right' claim. If David Davis thinks they are too far to the right, that makes the point pretty adequately. The lead section of articles should be kept, in my view, to a very quick version. Obviously, given the length of the article as is, and about 45 years of politics to cover, the lead cannot adequately cover all of it. Giving two reference points (early 1960s, 2001) would seem to be reasonable. Trying to get more in with a shoehorn is probably a distraction. Charles Matthews 15:48, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Moving articles on afd

When you move an article that's on afd, could you please create a redirect from Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/OldTitle to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/NewTitle instead of moving the afd discussion? My bot can account for redirected afd discussions automatically, but it can't detect moved ones, and there isn't really an easy way to make it do so. —Cryptic (talk) 15:48, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration accepted

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Robert I has been accepted. Please place evidence at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Robert I/Evidence. Proposals and comments may be placed at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Robert I/Workshop. Fred Bauder 20:45, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

William Horace Temple

This article really needs references and sources. Please provide them. Thnx. TheRingess 07:33, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Need help

I have been going back and foth with a guy removing a delete tag. I am somewhat new to this so you are the first administrator I found who was actually on-line. Could you take a look at Lucas Piccoli and help me out if you get the chance. Thanks--Looper5920 01:17, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Unblock 64.230.123.119

Hi, I saw you blocked User:64.230.123.119 for a month, even though the IP only had seven edits and had no warnings given. So I've gone ahead and unblocked the IP. Let's make sure to give some warnings, and block in increments of hours, days, weeks, rather than one month off the bat. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 01:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Cheryl Gallant

I'm actually going to unprotect this. It's basically just one IP hitting the article. When that's the case, it's easier to block the IP than SP or protect. I'll put the article on my WL. It looks like the anon was warned. So if he hits again, I'll block him and that might take care of it. --Woohookitty 22:19, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Marissa Marchant article speedy delete

Hello,

Could you give me the reason why the article on the singer/songwriter Marissa Marchant was speedy deleted? Was it due to Copyright violations or for another reason?

I'm asking because she has quite a large "fanbase" who are already planning a new article and it might be better to clear this up before this is posted. Although she does not qualify for inclusion under the WP:MUSIC directive, she has gained quite a bit of attention, for example this article : http://www.sfweekly.com/Issues/2005-12-21/music/music.html in a San Francisco Music Journal. Thank you in advance for your response. Musikfabrik 00:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for giving this article a "second chance". We'll see what happens! Musikfabrik 10:39, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Hi Homeontherange. I just want to wish you a happy new year and let you know how much some of us appreciate your tireless efforts. It must be difficult to keep going when you are being hit at by all sides but never let the trolls get you down. Illegitimati-Non-Carbonum --Cyberboomer 01:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Strange

I don't know you, but thought you might be interested. Evidently someone thinks that I'm Richard Warman. I suspect the person is Dogmatic. This is what he wrote in my Talk section:

RW - you should know better (being a member of the BAR and all) - you shouldn't go online posting information about people that you have current complaints against. You also shouldn't be posting links to "white supremacist" websites.

The most pathetic thing about A.L.'s and now also your campaign to spread misinformation on Misplaced Pages about ultra-nationalists is that these individuals like the spotlight and were never hiding in the first place. You are only stroking their egos.

Like I said, strange.

Vote to Keep Marcell Rodden

Vote to keep the article! http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Marcell_Rodden

Ian Smith

Homey. I haven't changed my views. The problem is that I said rather more about myself than was wise. I will remove the text again in a day or so. Do me a favour and please do not reinstate it. Your understanding is appreciated. Bob

BScar23625 19:22, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Homey. Thanks for your prompt response. I will take a look at it tomorrow and adjust rather than remove the relevant sections of text. I am new to Misplaced Pages and did not quite realise .... . Bob.

BScar23625 19:51, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Vanishing Act

I pretty much noticed right away that your "movement" of another user's material pretty much obviously deleted not just my vote, but all of my additions to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Childlove movement. At this point, before I say anything else, I'd like to give you a chance to explain it. --DanielCD 16:45, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

That reply doesn't make much sense, as my vote was placed at the bottom. I still am not understanding this. --DanielCD 17:02, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, that makes much more sense. I thought it was a boo-boo of some sort. --DanielCD 17:04, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Harry Cassidy

It was speedied, but should have gone to afd so I could vote to delete it as a completely nn bio anyway. No googles...the article talks about a nobody.--MONGO 10:57, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm not going to send it to Afd as you claim it was notable enough to restore...I disagree...but if you feel he is notable enough, then no problem...I did check the edit history...in my opinion, it is a nn bio. As I mentioned, I didn't send it to afd now as I am not a WP:DICK, so assume good faith.--MONGO 19:39, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Why did you speedy delete Harry Cassidy? You should have reverted it to when it was about a real person. Next time check the history!Homey 10:49, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

You are right and my mistake—I guess the combination of the vandalized article and the pet name ("Harry") in the Lemma threw me off. However, I did not speed-delete the article but merely put up the request. Maikel 16:17, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Ontario Leader of the Opposition

Here's the answer, taken from Peter Oliver, G. Howard Ferguson: Ontario Tory, (Toronto and Buffalo: University of Toronto Press, 1977), p. 158:

"Although the UFO after the 1923 election had elected more members than the Liberals, Ferguson arbitrarily refused to accept them as the official opposition and stated that W.E.N. Sinclair, whom the Liberals had just selected as their temporary and House leader, would be recognized as leader of the opposition. There was not a shred of justification for such a move: facetiously and cynically, he claimed he was merely recognizing the official statement of the UFO that it was out of politics. Manning Doherty, the new leader of the parliamentary group, was outraged but Ferguson turned a deaf ear to his protests. Finally the Speaker ruled that Doherty was entitled to the $1500 by statute for the leader of a group of 15 or more members. The Liberals under Sinclair, who disliked third parties as much as Ferguson, readily agreed to the outrageous manoeuvre. If there had ever been any doubt, it was now certain that the old order had returned with a vengeance to the political life of Ontario."

Interestingly, Sinclair and Ferguson had also talked about an alliance prior to the election. CJCurrie 20:54, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages in the news

Thanks for the link. When you have a change, check out my recent entry on Talk:Stuart Smith. CJCurrie 22:11, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Double spacing

Do you know if Misplaced Pages has a double-space function? Some of my recent footnote-heavy pages are looking a bit unbalanced ... CJCurrie 03:01, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me about the vote. I have alerted others also. FearÉIREANN\ 23:45, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Airbus

I can assure you, this was a terrible mistake. I was doing a big rewrite of the article, (Look in the talk page of it), and cleaning up sections that were incredibly messy...I must have simply forgot to put it back in. Mulroney is most definatly not a hero of mine, as you can see with the edits I made, which I actually think were more critical then the article was before I made them, or if you look at my work on the 1983 Progressive Conservative leadership convention (I mention a few unflattering thinigs about him). A good amount of people after me edited the article, and had no problem.

I'm kind of in a state of shock over this, that the Toronto Star actually picks that up...Habsfannova 16:09, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure it was me who edited that part out, BTW? Because I included it in a few of my edits (ie: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Brian_Mulroney&oldid=34137592)Habsfannova 16:16, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Upon further review, it is my fault. I apologize...I even have that Airbus part on the notepad file I use to cut/paste later during article edits. I just forgot about it, I guess. No idelogically reasons behind it at all, just forgetfullness. And in the future, could you please refrain from attacking me and questioning my motives before I have a chance to explain myself? Thank you.Habsfannova 16:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Main page

Please do not add images to templates on the main page wihtout protecting them, if they are on the commons you must upload the image to Misplaced Pages and then protect it. Unprotected images on the main page are frequently vandalised.--nixie 05:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

User:Lets murder baby animals

Admin action requested: You may want to ban this new user, whose name bears a striking resemblance to WoW socks like User:Lets vandalise random articles. CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 06:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Honourifics again

Hello! It has been a while, I've been quite busy with law school applications. I just wanted to raise a point with you. Recently someone started a section on the Canadian board about removing all Honourifics from intro section on articles. I remember a while back, that we had an arguement over this, and asked other users what they thought. I believe that we came to the agreement that honourifics would be okay as long as they do not become too excessive (ie. His/Her Worship for mayors and His/Her Excellency for ambassadors) I can't find this discussion anymore on the board or the archives. I would just to get your current stance on this issue. Eddo 05:29, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

John Aimers

It was on the news the other day. I emailed him to double check. Carolynparrishfan 00:16, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

A suggestion

Re: this edit - while you were right to revert Ral, it's usually considered bad form to use your admin rollback on another good user instead of doing it the old fashioned way along with a substantive comment (which I saw you dropped on Ral's talk page) Raul654 20:14, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Locus

Hrm, I suppose you might be right. Ral315 (talk) 20:13, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

656.59  

4861.89 3231.27 1501.41 10251.16 (feb 8/06)

39th Canadian parliament -- Officeholders

I've questioned the necessity of your addition of the Officeholders section to 39th Canadian parliament but I'm not willing to take it out just like that. If you'd please explain your addition on the talk page I'd be quite appreciative.

MiC pictures

Thanks for adding the pictures back in. And your solution re. the naming of the lines is a good compromise - something I hadn't even considered. --gbambino 02:11, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Ernst Zundel

Homeontherange, would you mind taking a look at a dispute I'm having with another editor regarding the appropriateness of including material about the "Muhammad cartoons" on the Ernst Zündel article? Jayjg 20:52, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Judi McLeod & Misplaced Pages

So far as I can tell, Judi McLeod has implied that Kofi Annan and Misplaced Pages are in cahoots to remove information about his father. A discussion has begun on Talk:Kofi Annan. Wikinews reporter user:zanimum has written to her asking for specifics but has not heard back. We would like your expertise in this matter. --Cyberboomer 22:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC).

Gregory Lauder-Frost et al

Please give an explanation as to why my edits have been removed. Was there something wrong with them? Did I not give sources? Also, you might explain whether or not my computer is banned from Misplaced Pages and why? Is everyone who was ever connected with the Monday Club, Lauder-Frost, et all banned now? I am neither GLF nor whoever it is that is causing you problems. Your actions seem a bit unfair. 86.141.173.190 23:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

My apologies. I've restored your edits to the Monday Club article. Homey 18:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protection of Conservative Monday Club

I think you need to take care with this one. Charles Matthews 23:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

• Its a bit like blocking out all British Telecom users as the first numbers (81, 86, whatever) of their ISPs will all be the same. Hundreds of thousands of people, if not even millions. Given the membership of the Monday Club and, so, those who will have known Lauder-Frost and may want to add something to either, the action seems pretty drastic. 86.141.173.42 07:54, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

To clarify: semi-protection is a relatively new procedure, and the protocols for applying it are I think less well worked-out, compared to full protection. Taking this action of yours as arising from the Robert I ArbCom case, I think it would be useful to discuss the matter. Could you mail me from my User page, with what you may have on possible infringement of the ruling in that case? Charles Matthews 10:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Editing by the anon you cite as justification for semi-protection seems more productive than tendentious. Fred Bauder 18:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protection would be justified if the anon edits were concentrating on Lauder-Frost and his role. Try taking it off from time to time and monitoring edits. Fred Bauder 13:15, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Will do. Homey 17:56, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Regarding banning

It is not our intention to ban everyone who edits from a Tory perspective using British Telecom as a provider. This is under discussion among the arbitrators. I will drop Homeontherange (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) a note regarding this matter. Fred Bauder 18:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Edits by "Robert I" will focus on Gregory Lauder-Frost and his role in things. Fred Bauder 01:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Freedom Party of Ontario

Hello. On jurisdiction the arbcom haven't commented on that opinion yet, I'd suggest giving it some time (if you want to continue). It is an interesting point, where exactly do the Foundation and the community overlap. On the email - if you can give me a couple of days, I'll discuss how much I can add to the talk page. In some cases we can copy parts of the mail (without names of course) to the talk page. In this case I would want a second opinion before doing so. I may not be able to get that until after the weekend. -- sannse (talk) 21:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Sannse and the FPO

I've already been following this discussion for a few days. While I also believe that sannse's deletions were arbitrary and inappropriate, I think the matter can be solved with recourse to the ArbComm or a related governing agency. I plan on expanding and adding references to the FPO page shortly; when I do, I'll revise the wording of the contentious sections in a way that (hopefully) will take us over this impasse.

On another matter, have you seen the craziness at the Raymond Samuels page? CJCurrie 03:11, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikimedia Canada

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Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Mark_Bourie

...User:Mark Bourrie, but you knew that. Samaritan 22:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protectin lifted

I have removed the semi-protection at Conservative Monday Club. Not suitable to have that there long term. If you need more on this, you'd better mail me, as I can't mail you. Charles Matthews 19:10, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

David Miller

Could I request that you revert some of the recent changes by User:Gold Dragon? I've already reached my three reverts for the 24-hour period.

I'm particularly concerned about this line: "noting that a fiscal self-examination was overdue while spending on new programs was rampant", which seems to be a deliberate misrepresentation of the source material. (I've explained my rationale on the talk page.) CJCurrie 20:00, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Honorifics

Homey. I am not an expert, but my understanding is that the term "Right Honourable" (or Rt Hon) applies to a member of the Privy Council. Any cabinet member of the UK or old Commonwealth Dominion governments is automatically a member of the Privy Council. If you are going to demote Ian Smith in the main article, then you will have to adjust the caption to his official portrait as well. best wishes. Bob BScar23625 15:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

your earlier blocking

Hi homey. Given your earlier warning and blocking for excessive blanking, I thought you should note this edit Bucketsofg 19:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Upper Canada College

Hi homey, I see that you have edited this article in the past. There is a current dispute on the article between User:Gbambino and one or more anonymous editors at Talk:Upper Canada College. This dispute led to an edit war that I ended by semi-protecting the page. I have attempted to mediate, but one of the anon editors does not accept that I am being impartial in this. I would appreciate you taking a look at the situation and providing your views. If I have been unfair, or if I could have handled this in a better way, I would like to know. Thanks, Ground Zero | t 18:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for your contribution to resolving this dispute. With all possible fingers crossed, I have lifted semi-protection. Regards, Ground Zero | t 18:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Sidebar from the debate on the interim leadership

Can you do me a favour and do previews before adding your posts, I've been guilty of posting a reply to the debate and going back and changing it myself and I too will start previewing first. I ask this because in your most recent reply, which you subsequently modified twice, I write replies in turn but by the time I posted them an edit conflict existed, you had changed/expanded you argument and then I had to re-write a different reply only to find another edit conflict which again required me to rewrite my reply. I hope this doesn't come off as an unreasonable demand, it would just make my life a lot easier and, if you've ran into the same problem I did when I was going back to edit my replies, I am sure you feel my pain - Jord 03:12, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Guy Charbonneau

Re: Guy Charbonneau: And you accused me of whitewashing PC history? ;-) Habsfannova 18:57, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I know, buddy, just ribbin' ya.Habsfannova 20:51, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

CBC Radio One

For what it's worth, CBE in Windsor, CBG in Gander, CBI in Sydney, CBN in St. John's, CBU in Vancouver, CBY in Corner Brook and the three CBC North stations are still on AM. Given the FM dial in Detroit, I'm fairly sure CBE's going to be stuck on AM forever — but some of the others are probably going to move eventually, too. Bearcat 19:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Heads up

H, I have had that article under semi-protection for about a week now, which is longer than semi-protection is intended for. I think that I should lift s-p tomorrow as an experiment to see if we can get back to normal editing. The article would need careful monitoring, and a willingness to return to semi-protection if disruption returns. Your thoughts? Ground Zero | t 18:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

• Sorry about that. It was Upper Canada College. I have now unprotected it since it had been semi-protected for a full week. Regards, Ground Zero | t 18:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

French Turn: Thanks!

Homey, thanks for your comments. As you might have spotted we are on the edge of a revert war on this page and on Max Shachtman. I have not been through one before, and sensible comments about the content, like yours, are a great help. --Duncan 12:12, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

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Court Circulars

I have picked up on your rude remarks. You seem obsessed with those on the political Right, and with their denigration. The principle reason for showing some of the more prominent guests at a function is that it shows who the individual was associated with and thus gives the person's persona a broader perspective. I note the "your friends" remark, but I have not been involved in politics since 1994. I thought Misplaced Pages was open to all to edit. Or is there an 'approved' list? Sussexman 08:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Bill Graham

If you have a moment, would you mind taking a look at the dispute on the Bill Graham page. I might be wrong in the position I'm advancing, but I'd like someone whose opinion I value to explain it to me in a rational way. HistoryBA 00:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Bob MacDonald

There was a faulty redirect. JLaTondre asked me to write a stub, which I've done. Please feel free to modify it. --Cyberboomer 22:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --Cyberboomer 23:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Knesset

True enough, but I'm having difficulty even finding the top 20 names for some parties. (I can only find the first 14 for Likud, for instance, and I'm fairly certain there were incumbent MKs in lower positions).

The standard approach in the last election was to publish the first 40 names of each list online; I'm not sure why the Israeli media isn't doing this now. CJCurrie 01:35, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Howard Moscoe

Just as a heads up, you may want to keep watch on the Moscoe page. User:GoldDragon has been adding slanted information, some of which seems inaccurate. CJCurrie 04:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

He's back again, and he's violated the 3RR. Since I'd prefer not to do this myself, could you please review the page. CJCurrie 18:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Although I did not get a chance to defend myself, I would like to point out that there was a significant difference between my last and second last edit - the last edit not simply being a blanket revert since it incorporated CJCurrie's contribution. Could you explain why that violated the 3RR? GoldDragon 02:44, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Jacrosse

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Jacrosse. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Jacrosse/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Jacrosse/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 13:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Green Party of Canada

I have nominated it for peer review. Ardenn 07:06, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

NAS

I'm somewhat taken aback by a few of your posts to Talk:New anti-Semitism. Are you saying we're not allowed to use as sources people who support Israel as a Jewish homeland, without making clear that they do? That's well poisoning. And what if I don't know whether they support it or not? Or do you mean something else by "Zionism"? I'm looking through a set of 49 papers I have here on the new anti-Semitism, trying to work out who is and isn't a "Zionist," so I can answer your question on talk, and with most of them, I can't tell. Some clearly aren't, like Edward Said (though he's condemning the anti-Semitism of Palestinians, not the Left explicity), some clearly are, and with many, it's not obvious either way.

Can I ask how much of the literature on this you've read yourself? SlimVirgin 00:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

There's no such thing as objectivity. According to lots of people, there's no such thing as anti-Semitism, period, but we don't start that article by qualifying it as only a term used by such-and-such.

NPOV says we describe majority and significant-minority published opinion; stress on "published." That's why I asked how much of the literature you've read. The term is very far from being used by only one point of view. You can't edit in your own opinions to articles. You can only repeat what the literature says, and it very firmly, without exception that I can find, agrees that the new anti-Semitism is a real phenomenon, and associates it with the Left. These are books and articles written by people with many different POVs, largely academics and well-known journalists.

The intro you put up is factually inaccurate and doesn't even reflect the sources after the sentences. That's why I'm surprised.

Rather than us exchanging personal views, which are irrelevant, can you say how much of the literature you'd read, and which papers/books you're relying on, and then start quoting your sources, please? If we stick very closely to what reputable sources are saying and give references with all our edits from now on, it will make for a more intelligent article. SlimVirgin 01:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I think you may have violated 3RR on that page. SlimVirgin 01:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

You keep deleting other people's edits. You're reverting every time you do that. Please read WP:3RR. It doesn't have to be the same edit each time. SlimVirgin 02:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

You've just done it again. SlimVirgin 02:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

You've misunderstood 3RR. It's any undoing of another editor's work (e.g. deletion) or repeated re-adding of your own, even if they're different edits each time. You've violated 3RR more than once, I suspect. Please leave the intro alone for 24 hours. SlimVirgin 02:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Homey, the arguments we are putting forward are scattered across the talk page. In order to make sense of them all, I created a sub-page in my user space. Please feel free to edit this page at User:TreveX/NAS if you find a good source or formulate a good argument that we haven't got yet. The page is split into sections to seperate the main issues of contention. Please change the structure etc if you feel it is needed. TreveX 18:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Merge?

What an astonishing suggestion. Are you serious? They describe entirely different phenomona. Jayjg 23:49, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Lord Nicholas Hervey

Because that's where WP policy says it should be. Proteus (Talk) 10:25, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Ruprecht

I agree -- that is an odd article. My first thought after reading it was that he might be seriously ill and taking "rest-cures" in the Caribbean, though obviously I don't have anything to back that up. I'm a bit surprised that anyone noticed he was gone, frankly. CJCurrie 23:41, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah ... I imagine they're trying to redo the Andy Thompson angle, in that case. CJCurrie 23:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Update: I saw Ruprecht deliver a petition in the Ontario leg. today: he was frailer than usual, and seemed to be slurring his words a bit. I think my initial suspicion may be correct. CJCurrie 22:02, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

You know ... I just re-read the article, and realized that I skimmed over the "obvious innuendo" paragraph the first time around. Sorry for seeming oblivious (though I still think the "rest-cure" explanation is the most likely). CJCurrie 22:06, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Agreed on the subtlety observation. I was under the impression that Sunmedia gave up on that particular style of "investigative" journalism a few years ago, but apparently Ms. Blizzard still has a few surprises up her sleeve. I suppose the fact that the neighbours call him "Anthony" could be seen as suggesting an air of effeteness ... at least she didn't feel compelled to comment on his marital status.

Now that I think of it, the article's corresponding image (Ruprecht as the lonely traveller drifting confusedly toward the ocean) could be seen to suggest "Death in Venice" comparisons, though I imagine very few Sun readers would have made that particular connection. (I really should be writing more cultural articles ...)

As to Cuba and rest-cures: it may not be the optimal spa location, but I imagine any Caribbean location would be better than downtown Toronto for dealing with respiratory problems (for instance) or some related illness. I realize that Ruprecht always looks pale and diminutive, but he also seemed frailer than usual earlier today (this doesn't, of course, rule out the possibility that he was really there for the reasons he provided.)

I suspect no-one will remember this in a few weeks' time, one way or the other ... CJCurrie 04:07, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a link for the Now article? I wasn't able to find it online.

You may already be familiar with this. CJCurrie 03:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

afd

Just thought I'd let you know: someone is reopening the "minor candidates" debate.

• Christian Heritage Party candidates, 2004 Canadian federal election
• Marijuana Party candidates, 2004 Canadian federal election

CJCurrie 05:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

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Hello

Hey, can you check out 2006 Harper attack ads and tell me what you think of the situation there? Thanks.Habsfan|t 03:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

ArmchairVexillologistDon

I was just about to ask you whether you'd gotten a second opinion about reverting and protecting his talk page (being a party to the arbitration), but I looked up the banning policy and realised that I was erroneously assuming comprehensive bans work like blocks and allow the user to still edit their talk page. So, nevermind, and I'm surprised it took this long! — Saxifrage ✎ 20:36, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's wonderful what you learn just by tooling around Misplaced Pages! — Saxifrage ✎ 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

TIME covers

No. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I do take responsibility, and I don't apologise for removing copyright violations and non-fair use images. Jimbo Wales has already said what I did was OK. If you have a problem, add it to the RFC: Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Ta bu shi da yu 2. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Really big thank you

I want to give you a really, big, super-huge thank you for helping me out on Green Party of Canada leadership convention, 2006. I'm glad to not be the only one working on it. BTW your talk page needs archiving. Thank you again. Ardenn 04:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

NAS

You've violated 3RR again. Please take the opportunity to revert yourself. SlimVirgin 23:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I've blocked you for 24 hours for violating the WP:3RR on New anti-Semitism. If you promise to steer clear of the article for the time period during which you'd otherwise be blocked, I'll lift the block. · Katefan0/poll 00:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I can't respond on your page. Yes, I promise not to edit the article itself for 24 hours. Can I edit the Talk page?Homey 00:57, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Sure, of course. Just don't edit the article please. · Katefan0/poll 01:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, then please unblock me.Homey 01:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Rae image.jpg

Hi. In this edit you claim that Image:Rae image.jpg is not under copyright. That's an extraordinary claim for a recent Canadian government photograph. Canadian crown copyright expires fifty years after the creation of the media. Further, if the media really was not under copyright, there would be no need to claim "fair use" on it, as it would be, by definition, free to use for any purpose. See Misplaced Pages:Licensing and Misplaced Pages:Fair use for more information. Jkelly 18:43, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

NAS again

Homey, please let me know if you want me to pursue the idea of finding an informal mediator for NAS. I'd look for someone very experienced who has a thorough understanding of policy and who can be neutral. We may as well take advantage of page protection to get it sorted. Formal mediation through the medcom is unlikely given their backlog, but there are several good editors out there who might be willing. SlimVirgin 21:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

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Mackenzie Institute

Hi Homey. I believe you have some expertise regarding this organization. Please feel free to continue the article. --Cyberboomer 23:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

NAS

Please say whether you agree to mediation. You were the one who suggested it, and now you're the only one who hasn't responded. SlimVirgin 19:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Free Dominion citation

Thanks for finding the citation. --Cyberboomer 22:14, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Self-hating Jew

You've just violated 3RR again. Please take the opportunity to revert yourself. SlimVirgin 03:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC

You've undone another editor's work four or five times. It doesn't have to be the same material each time, as you know. You were blocked for the same thing just last week. SlimVirgin 04:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I saw your message on SlimVirgin's page, and just thought I'd point out that WP:3RR (which I suggest you review) specifically says (in bold):

Note: There is no requirement for the reverts to be related: any four reverts on the same page count.

I haven't reviewed the page that you were editing, and I haven't looked to see if you've been reported, but if you made any four reverts to the same page within a 24-hour period, you risk being blocked. (In fact, as you'll see if you review the policy, you can even be blocked for fewer than four reverts.) AnnH ♫ 20:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I haven't looked into the history of the reverts, so I'm not making any comment on how many you made. I just posted here because your message to SlimVirgin showed a misunderstanding of the policy, and suggested, in fact, that you thought she was misunderstanding it. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 00:05, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

No, because your comments to SlimVirgin indicate that you think her "interpretation of the 3RR rule is overly broad and unique" when she says that that "it doesn't have to be the same material each time". All I'm saying is that her interpretation of that rule is perfectly correct. That has nothing to do with how many reverts a certain editor made on a certain day. AnnH ♫ 00:18, 7 May 2006 (UTC)