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Even if MikaM's edits are indistinguishable from Gio's, I'm asking that you avoid calling them a sockpuppet until and unless there is confirmation. That's all. ] 04:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC) Even if MikaM's edits are indistinguishable from Gio's, I'm asking that you avoid calling them a sockpuppet until and unless there is confirmation. That's all. ] 04:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== Another 1 week block for personal attacks ==

Alienus, I've blocked you for another week for personal attacks, based on , made on your very first day back from your previous 1 week block for personal attacks. I note as well, that you've done little but edit war since your return. Your presence on Misplaced Pages is becoming increasingly disruptive; please learn to work ''with'' other Misplaced Pages editors. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 07:21, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

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Welcome

Welcome to my Talk page. Please feel free to leave me messages here. Al 02:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Signature

Hi Al - if you want to get rid of the arrow in your sig use the internal wiki links like this: ] . Good to see you back. Sophia 10:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Odd. I tried this earlier and it didn't work right, but it's working fine right now. Thanks. Al 17:14, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Circumcision advocacy

Alienus, let's take a moment to review what happened here.

  1. Between May 1 and May 2, Jayjg made 4 edits to the article (see diff). Edit summaries explained these edits. A talk page comment remarked on actnow. One paragraph had no citations, which had been requested long before. Two others were commented out with explanations for this in the comments.
  2. You reverted these changes, with the inadequate (non-)explanation that they were 'incorrect'. You demanded that anyone disagreeing with you discuss it on the talk page, yet given the above and your further comments, the onus was upon you to do precisely that.
  3. I reverted your reversion.
  4. You then reverted again, commenting that reverting without explanation is unacceptable behaviour. Apparently there is an exception if one's username is Alienus.
  5. I reverted your reversion.
  6. You then reverted again, leaving a note to complain on my talk page.
  7. I gave a detailed explanation, and reverted.

Some thoughts occur. Firstly, you are making demands of other editors that you are unwilling to apply to yourself. Secondly, you are ignoring earlier edit summaries and explanations in the text. Both of these things are irritating, and make it difficult to work with you. Jakew 19:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your extensive comments, but I believe I've fully addressed the issue on the talk page of the relevant article, so there is nothing further to discuss here. Al 19:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser

Hi Al,

A checkuser does not generally establish that usernames are not the same individual, only that they propagate from different IP addresses. Though I haven't seen the report, to which you're free to direct me.

I'm sorry I came across to you as incivil; I didn't mean to be. I've said my peace, so your warning is unnecessary.Timothy Usher 04:05, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

A CheckUser can confirm that two accounts use the same IP, hence are likely the same individual. Without such confirmation, suspicions of sock puppetry remain merely suspicions. To state your negative suspicions as fact is a violation of both WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL, as I have explained. Thank you for understanding. Al 04:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Sure, no problem. I don't include you (or SOPHIA) in this - there's nothing suspicious about sharing POV(s). However, other editting patterns, most notably patterns of language usage in talk space, can raise suspicions far above the "merely" level. Your edits are nothing like Giovanni's in this respect.Timothy Usher 04:17, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Even if MikaM's edits are indistinguishable from Gio's, I'm asking that you avoid calling them a sockpuppet until and unless there is confirmation. That's all. Al 04:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Another 1 week block for personal attacks

Alienus, I've blocked you for another week for personal attacks, based on this edit summary, made on your very first day back from your previous 1 week block for personal attacks. I note as well, that you've done little but edit war since your return. Your presence on Misplaced Pages is becoming increasingly disruptive; please learn to work with other Misplaced Pages editors. Jayjg 07:21, 7 May 2006 (UTC)