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Any chance you'd want to have a look at the page's edit history and think about re-inserting some of the content that was in the article before it was maimed a few days ago... or maybe just as it stood ]? Regards ] (]) 18:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC) | Any chance you'd want to have a look at the page's edit history and think about re-inserting some of the content that was in the article before it was maimed a few days ago... or maybe just as it stood ]? Regards ] (]) 18:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
:I contested deletion because the rationale given was obviously incorrect. That doesn't mean that I'll help you in your efforts to earn money by editing Misplaced Pages. I'm a volunteer here, and make my own choices about what articles to improve. ] (]) 20:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC) |
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Jhenda redirect
Hello! If redirecting it to Zenda (Marathi film) is suitable than deletion as per the PROD i placed, its okay. But what do we do with Talk:Jhenda? §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 20:26, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Contested deletion of Mobi Okoli.
Hi there. You removed the PROD-tag on Mobi Okoli the other day, with the rationale "contest deletion - passes WP:NFOOTY". Giving such a specific reason for contesting a deletion is very good, for I would encourage you to actually read the policy that you claim Okoli passes (now he passes it, after making his debut in Tippeligaen on 29 April). WP:NFOOTY specifically claims that "players who have appeared, and managers who have managed, in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable." - and when you removed the PROD-tag there were no indication in his article that he had played in a fully professional league, which in Norway is only Tippeligaen, not Adeccoligaen. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 06:39, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Persian Resurgence 1729
This entire article is in fact a major copyright violation where someone copy-pasted the material from a website. You can obviously see this in the way it is written plus the numbers appearing as footnotes.--182.177.69.52 (talk) 02:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
AFD notification for Ann Dunnigan
Hi - just letting you know about this AFD; you removed the PROD tag on the article some time ago. Cheers, Dawn Bard (talk) 16:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC) Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ann Dunnigan
Ganda Singh
Hi, given that you removed the PROD at Ganda Singh, I have stripped the article right back. It is hopeless, although perhaps you are not aware of the transliteration issues that are involved. Aside from being unsourced until your edit, there are numerous Ganda/Gandha/Gainda etc Singhs who were Indian revolutionaries/independence activists and at least two who were involved with the Ghadar movement. All the stuff concerning migration to Canada etc is ludicrous in this situation and even that source that you added makes a distinction between a Gainda Singh who came from Hoshiapur (which is what the article claimed) and a Ganda Singh (your man) who came from Ferozpur), per pp. 81-82. Furthermore, the subject of the article has an additional name that does not appear in the source that you cited, and the article made no mention of time spent in China: you may in fact have unwittingly added to the confusion. Indeed, I am pretty sure that you did because the article claimed Singh was being prosecuted in India at the time when your source says he was in China.
It is issues such as transliteration & common names that give rise to confused articles that become compendia of the lives of various people rather than of any single person and it is thus that such unsourced articles can fail WP:V, WP:GNG etc. They are frequently found in the India-related sphere and without a decent "hook" source that really does delve into the life of a particular person, the articles are well-nigh useless. I'll try to build something using the source that you provided, but it is not a great one. I hope that this makes some sort of sense to you - the article certainly did not <g> - Sitush (talk) 02:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Contested PROD of NKVT
Hello,
You contested the proposed deletion of NKVT, saying that "of course we should have an article on a government ministry in one of the world's largest countries." I agree with the basic principle of this - we should have information about such a ministry. But there's simply not enough encyclopedic content to justify having an article. Furthermore, even if that content is there, it's unsourced, so it's not useable. What is justified is a blurb in the Council of the People's Commissars article on each of these little ministries, not individual articles at this time. - Jorgath (talk) 15:19, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
- I've taken it to AfD. Link to the discussion is here. - Jorgath (talk) 15:32, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I've replied to your comment on the AfD...
and having discovered something interesting as a result of your comment there, I'd like you to take a look. MSJapan (talk) 03:04, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Cyrille Ndaney
Hello. You removed the BLPProd tag because it has references but both references provided are not for the person in question. In fact, the majority of the article is just a cut and paste of an existing one, just the name and a couple of things were changed. That is why I BLPProd'd it. The user in question has a history of doing this and frankly I can't be bothered to clean up after them every single time if they're not willing to put in the effort to create articles properly (see their talk page, I've left them plenty of messages). Thanks. TonyStarks (talk) 18:39, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- This reference clearly says that Ndaney is a player from Cameroon signed to ES Sétif, How is that not for the person in question? If you doubt the reliability of the source or the notability of the player then please use other deletion procedures, but this article meets the requirements of WP:BLPPROD. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:57, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry you are right, I only read the title and intro of the article and assumed it was for another player. As such, I should not have BLPProd'd it. Thanks for pointing out my mistake! TonyStarks (talk) 14:15, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for taking the time to defend a minor little article like ICS 205-930. Such actions are noticed and appreciated. —The Illusive Man— 19:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC) |
- Thank you. Always glad to be of service. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:50, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
College Park Mall
Tell me how a shopping mall is not A7. Shopping malls are businesses. They certainly fit under A7 and I've seen them A7'd before. Ten Pound Hammer • 19:49, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- A shopping mall is owned by a company, but is not itself a company. Most of them are owned by large property companies that have many other interests. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Still, I've seen shopping malls A7'd before without question. Ten Pound Hammer • 19:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- That only means that we have some incompetent admins, which is a well-known fact. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Still, I've seen shopping malls A7'd before without question. Ten Pound Hammer • 19:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
No. 1 Service Flying Training School
Hi
Did you read the top of "http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1940s/Trg-1SFTS.html" the only difference between that and the article is the lead sentence and the fact the wikipedia article is structured.
Gavbadger (talk) 20:49, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Speedy deletion only applies if the whole article violates copyright, and simple lists are not copyrightable. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:53, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, Thanks. Gavbadger (talk) 20:54, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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AfD: Al Yasmina School
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I am nominating the article above for deletion. I think you might be interested, since you removed my proposed deletion tag. Rgs.
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Thank you, Phil Bridger, for your feedback at my RFA. I plan on being careful with further AFD nominations and replies, thanks in part to your feedback. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:12, 3 June 2012 (UTC) |
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Oh my goodness! How lovely to find you saved my page by placing a Reference!
While I was looking for References that I could use, and then inserting them... I noticed there was a already added! Let's hope mine are accepted now too... that'll make . Thank you so much... this is my first attempt at creating a page and there is sooo much to learn about procedures etc. yikes. Thanks again... Redlippedlady (talk) 10:25, 9 June 2012 (UTC) |
My Sygnature
My Sygnature is just fine now. It had been in a coma, but it just recovered. Please post all complaints on User talk:Bleakgh/complaints BLEAKGH - БЛЕАКЬ - بــلــكــغ - בּלכּג - 뱍가 - ᚷᚲᛇᛚᛒ 12:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for changing your signature. If I ever feel the need to contact you again I will post the message in its proper place, which is your talk page, not a sub-page. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:11, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Contested deletion of Shipwire, Inc.
Hi - please see below regarding why Shipwire, Inc. meets notability guidelines. Also, the notification is posted twice on the same page. Please remove one instance.
The article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it meets Misplaced Pages's criteria for notability specified in the guidelines.
Here are the five notability criteria and how the Shipwire, Inc. entry meets these guidelines.
- Significant coverage - no original research was used in making the entry and all sources document the significance of the entity
- Reliable - sources are from notable and independent sources
- Sources - there are around 10 differing and quality sources
- Independent of the subject - Most sources are independent of the subject and thus can be construed as unbiased
- Presumed - the subject should hence be presumed for inclusion
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Johannes Maas and Worldwide Faith Missions
I came upon your involvement in the AfD discussion on a missionary by the name of Johannes Maas (see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Johannes Maas (missionary) and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Johannes Maas (missionary) (2nd nomination) for the discussion). I have nominated Worldwide Faith Missions, another article which was written by the same author as the Johannes Maas article, up for AfD and I read in the Johannes Maas AfD discussion that you too were highly sceptical about this article. Apart from the author of the Worldwide Faith Missions article and myself, there has been no response so far on its AfD page. Would you mind having a look at this AfD perhaps? You can find it here: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Worldwide Faith Missions. Thank you. - Takeaway (talk) 03:37, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- I will not comment in the AfD discusssion unless you inform all of the editors who participited in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Johannes Maas (missionary) and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Johannes Maas (missionary) (2nd nomination), including Jackie-thai, JimScott and Jemesouviens32 who gave "keep" opinions (I see that Rak-Tai has already found the discussion). Informing people in the selective way that you have done is frowned upon as canvassing, and is nearly always counter-productive as it tends to deflect AfD discussions into talk about canvassing rather than the merits of the article. Phil Bridger (talk) 06:43, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't inform Jackie-thai because that account has not been active since 2009 and I strongly suspect that account to have been either a sockpuppet of Rak-Tai or belonging to someone who was his assistant due to Jackie-thai's edits all being connected with the person Johannes Maas. I have indeed not informed JimScott as he did not contribute to the second AfD nomination of the article about Johannes Maas. His name there was added by Rak-Thai himself so I assumed that JimScott had lost interest in the discussion. Having this AfD turned into a canvassing discussion is not my intention at all and I will then too inform JimScott even though he did not participate in the second discussion. - Takeaway (talk) 07:01, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
- Jemesouviens32 has last been active on wikipedia on 30 April 2011. I hope enough people can be found to participate. - Takeaway (talk) 07:11, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Question
What are the "two assertions of importance" in the Greycaps India article? Basalisk ⁄berate 15:49, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Second largest company in its field and international operations. Remember that importance/significance is a lower standard than notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:54, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Am I missing something? Is there a guideline/policy page somewhere which defines rational claims to importance? Perhaps I'm being a bonehead, but I didn't really feel that a claim to size is really significant; a tiny company in a sector with a very small market could make that claim. Basalisk ⁄berate 16:01, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- The point of the speedy deletion criteria is to eliminate articles that don't require any investigation to determine that they don't belong in Misplaced Pages. If an article makes claims that require such investigation then the appropriate venue to decide on deletion is WP:AFD. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:04, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. Basalisk ⁄berate 21:45, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- The point of the speedy deletion criteria is to eliminate articles that don't require any investigation to determine that they don't belong in Misplaced Pages. If an article makes claims that require such investigation then the appropriate venue to decide on deletion is WP:AFD. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:04, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
- Am I missing something? Is there a guideline/policy page somewhere which defines rational claims to importance? Perhaps I'm being a bonehead, but I didn't really feel that a claim to size is really significant; a tiny company in a sector with a very small market could make that claim. Basalisk ⁄berate 16:01, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Beate Bille speedy
Hi there. I noticed that you removed the speedy deletion tag from the above disambiguation page. You remarks were "look at the criteria". I did so and under the criteria of a disambiguation page: "An article which contains two or less links, or as many non-functional links". That article would have met the criteria for a speedy deletion. On a side note, contesting a speedy does not involve the act of removing the speedy. Contesting would be to add the "hang-on" tag and giving your reason for contesting such an issue. In your case, you just removed the template. I will respect your views and take the page to an AfD forum. Good day to you. keystoneridin! (talk) 20:47, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- Read the speedy deletion template again. The first criterion only applies if the title of the disambiguation page ends in "(disambiguation)", which this one does not, and the second only applies if the page links to no articles, but this one does link to one. And any editor other than the article creator can contest a speedy deletion by removing the tag with an explanation in the edit summary. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:58, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- I did read the template again. I am not trying to engulf this into an edit war. I was always under the impression that the proper way to "contest" a speedy was to add the hang on to the page so that the individual wanting to stop the speedy could explain this on the articles talk page. I, up to this point, have found the generally accepted way of "declining" a speedy was to remove the article. No hard feelings. I added it to today's AfD board. Cheers!keystoneridin! (talk) 21:03, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well, if you did read the template again, could you explain how this page met either of the criteria? For contesting of speedy deletion see WP:CSD, which says "The creator of a page may not remove a speedy deletion tag from it. Only an editor who is not the creator of a page may do so." I am not the creator of this page. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think it's just best to agree to disagree on this one. I don't want to leave a bad impression on anyone. I did not say you were not able to remove the tag. You are fully able to as an non-creator of the article. I was talking about contesting vs. declining. From my experience, it appears that you were in fact declining the speedy. This is completely fine, and I have no issues with it. Good luck in your editing!keystoneridin! (talk) 21:20, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Nomination of Monametsi Kelebale for deletion
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Lucy Carr
Hi Phil, I clicked on OTRS link to verify my identity but as I am not experienced at Misplaced Pages I'm not sure what I am supposed to be clicking or doing next - I did send an email to info-en-q@wikimedia.org saying that I am happy to send a copy of my driving licence. p.s thank you for the support Ladymanor13 (talk) 18:51, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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Image
Hello Phil,
Thank you for contesting the deletion and contributing to the page. I have one request if you're willing to participate, it's nothing big. It's just that I'm confused with adding the logo, and I was wondering if you are willing to add that to the page. If so, that'd be brilliant.
~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeeminglySubdued (talk • contribs) 22:09, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for participating in my RFA! I appreciate your support. Zagalejo^^^ 06:10, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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Roofing materials
Unfortunately, almost the only place that information is available is trade sites. I initially checked the refs very thoroughly and only passed those sites that offered solid information (like the difference in durability between straw and reed thatches). I haven't check through the refs lately, but I am sure some of them are valid. Did you go through them all before deleting?
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Lady Starlight (DJ)
Hello there. Please note that users have also suspected that the page is in violation of her official page. I couldn't find a way to fit both links into the SD template. SplashScreen (talk) 10:11, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
- If that's the case then I won't contest a reinstatement of the speedy deletion request with the official page url. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:14, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
- OK. I've reinstated the template with the new link. SplashScreen (talk) 10:16, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
ETOA
Hi, Out of curiousity, could you please direct me as to where this soon to be deleted article asserts notability? Thank you, -- MST☆R 10:42, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- The test is whether it indicates importance/significance, which is a lower standard of notability. The second sentence does this. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- There you go, learn something everyday
. Thank you! -- MST☆R 10:49, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- There you go, learn something everyday
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National Memorial Hall (Mount Herzl)
pleas do not change to subject. the memorial structure will honor the Jewish worrior from 1860 until today. thank you ! פארוק (talk) 18:49, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
- Putting words in bold doesn't persuade anyone that they are true. The way to do that is to cite reliable sources. The one source in the article, from Haaretz, says that this commemorates post-Holocaust casualties. Let's pplease keep further discussion to the article talk page rather than have have a private conversation on my talk page. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:33, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Shah Niyaz Ahmad
Hi. Thank you for considering Shah Niyaz Ahmad. The difficulty with using edit summaries to explain the reasons for actions like deprodding is that it makes discussion awkward. The talk page already had a section. Your summary was contest deletion - the book linked by the proposer on the talk page demonstrates that the outside world considers this to be a suitable topic for an encyclopedia entry, which is what we go by. I would contest that. WP:BASIC states: "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability." As on the talk page, I would argue that the source in question fails on those grounds, as it merely gives genealogy and a list of interests. If that were enough to establish notability, every English country vicar would be notable because they have entries in Crockford's Clerical Directory. I'm not going to bother with an AfD, however. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 09:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Bharat Patel
Hello; as you previously removed a prod template from Bharat Patel, I thought you might like to know that I've taken it to AfD. -- Hoary (talk) 01:48, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Merge discussion for National Memorial Hall (Mount Herzl)
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I need some clarification here....
You contested the prod for Lawrence_of_Arabia:_The_Authorised_Biography_of_T.E._Lawrence, based on "prodding via guesswork." You also claimed it clearly met NBOOK. I did not think so at the time, and I certainly didn't find anything now, so could you tell me what you found? MSJapan (talk) 19:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- I found the sources that I cited, among many others found by the obvious search. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:53, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Mannifest
You removed the A7 speedy, quite correctly--I agree that band/singer/etc. should not be stretched to cover such events. But I was going to delete as G11, promotional, however I want to check with you first DGG ( talk ) 23:15, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
- I have no objection. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:30, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Hassan Sheikh Mohamoud
Did you see the discussion at Talk:Hassan Sheikh Mohamud? While I have no problem with a redirect from Mohamoud, there's very little chance of it being considered an "accepted" spelling. In my experience with names transliterated from Arabic, I've rarely seen such consistency among sources as there is in this case (2250 vs. 7 Google news hits). I think it's likely that the sources that put the extra "o" in there were confusing it with the usual spelling of the name "Mahmoud". —— 15:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes I saw the discussion, which gave a good reason why the article title should be spelt as it is, but no reason why there shouldn't be a redirect. There are a few sources with the "o" in them, and a redirect will help readers find the article that they are looking for if they include that "o" when they search. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- I just noticed that you said that you have no problem with a redirect. If so, why did you tag the redirect for speedy deletion? Redirects only have to be from spellings that readers might type in, not from "accepted" spellings. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:19, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't do it :) I might also suggest a redirect from Mahamoud, which is how AllAfrica spelled it, though they weren't even consistent (it was different in the article than in the title)! I only wanted to point out that we should spell it internally the way the vast majority of high-quality sources do. I've therefore edited the 20 articles that had the previous spelling. —— 18:47, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- I just noticed that you said that you have no problem with a redirect. If so, why did you tag the redirect for speedy deletion? Redirects only have to be from spellings that readers might type in, not from "accepted" spellings. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:19, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Vladimir Mikhailovich Zakharov
HI! I ask you NOT not remove PROD delition from the page Vladimir Zakharov any more! I am the author of this article and post and kept it for 2 yeaqrs and I requested PROD because I wasnt fairly treatred and paid for my work here by this Vladimir Zakharov, so I have a right to request deletion of my page!! Thanks. Eva Basil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eva basil (talk • contribs) 18:07, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- If you have any conflict with Mr Zakharov that is no concern of ours at Misplaced Pages - you need to resolve that with him as you have agreed to the free use of your content by creating the page. Once a deletion proposal has been contested, as I have done, then the only way that this can be deleted is by starting a discussion at WP:AFD, but you will have to explain why Zakharov is not a suitable subject for an encyclopedia article, and any unfair treatment or lack of payment is irrelevant to that. If you want to proceed to a deletion discussion but have difficulties with the technicalities then I can start a discussion on you behalf - please let me know if you would like me to do that. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:33, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- There is such a thing as "WP:CSD#G7 - Author requests deletion". However, it only applies if "the only substantial content to the page and to the associated talk page was added by its author". It is difficult to say: I've gone through every edit to this article, and Eva basil has contributed essentially all of what I consider the substantial content, but numerous other editors have removed content, fixed typos, added categories, etc. Talk page is just project banners. I'm inclined to say this would be a valid G7 deletion, but I don't think I would feel comfortable saying this definitely meets the requirements without some agreement from others whether it applies here. I suggest starting an AFD discussion, where we can discuss whether (a) G7 is satisfied, or (b) whether Zakharov is a suitable article subject. If the discussion ends up agreeing with deletion on either of these two points, it can be done. If not, I'm afraid there is nothing more you can do to remove this article. In particular, re-adding tags over and over is guaranteed not to work. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:06, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
ibt
Hi Phil. Thanks for your updates and thanks for your comments. I removed that talk page because a lot of it has to do with speculation that has since been resolved. But with regards to your addition to the article itself I can't say that they pass the WP:SOAP tests. The CT article you listed doesn't Jang controls it, it says simply that the founder "declined to participate in a Christian industry association," so ownership is a stretch. The USAToday article (actually syndicated from the Tennessean) says leaders and former students run it, but 'Jang controlled' is inaccurate. Looking at IBT's history it says what the wiki says -- ie it's owned by Etienne Uzac and Johnathan Davis. This is a corporation. They can't just make up whatever. I am tending to believe that until something concrete comes. There are sources that, for example, say Bernanke is part of the illuminati -- should we put that into Ben's wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volcom7 (talk • contribs) 11:59, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
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For recognising "notability" of Dr. T.G.McGann - I intend to find more sources for this article and develop. Rayabhari (talk) 16:54, 17 September 2012 (UTC) |
Salty_Fingers
Hi,
Thanks for your contributions. Could you possibly format your comment with either Comment, Delete, Keep, Merge here:
Many thanks Mootros (talk) 08:36, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- It might facilitate a better understanding of view in relation to this AfD. Mootros (talk) 08:36, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- No, it wouldn't. I want people to read what I have actually written, not just a single-word summary of it. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:38, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- Not a problem. A sensible point that appears to be based on faith in the editors. Mootros (talk) 08:43, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- No, it wouldn't. I want people to read what I have actually written, not just a single-word summary of it. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:38, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- It might facilitate a better understanding of view in relation to this AfD. Mootros (talk) 08:36, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
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With compliments! Mootros (talk) 08:44, 25 September 2012 (UTC) |
Speedy deletion of Satyanarayan Chhipa
Hi Phil,
I have reverted the change that you had done on the article Satyanarayan Chhipa
The reason for me reverting is, to start a discussion on the talk page of the article for any information you needed as to the reason I marked the article for Speedy deletion. I invite you to discuss anything related to this article on the Talk page.
Thanks
Nithin (talk) 17:00, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- And I have reverted again. The tags that you added to the article call for deletion without discussion. If you want to start a deletion discussion the procedure is described at WP:AFD. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- I understand the tags that I placed are for articles that do not call for discussion. I was only trying to reach out to you to inform you for the reasons why I tagged the article with WP:GCSD G3& A7.
- 1. G3 - Pure vandalism, and blatant hoaxes. - This article should be considered a hoax as the creator of the article credits the indiviual for discovering soda feldspar - a mineral that has been available for over a thousand years(*1).
- 2. A7 - No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content). - This article qualifies as there is no indication of importance. As we can't have articles on every other businessman in the world, Or every other businessman with a feldspar mine!
- If you could show a reason as to why this article is of importance, I shall be glad to have learnt something new.
- I will wait for your reply, after which I shall proceed with adding the WP:CSD back.Thanks! Nithin (talk) 17:42, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ref - *1. Science and Civilisation in China: Volume 5, Chemistry and Chemical Technology, Part 12, Ceramic Technology, Volume 5 Page 219, Confirms the usage of Soda Feldspar (Sodium Feldspar) in the Ching-te-chen city provice around 1004AD — Preceding unsigned comment added by NitRav (talk • contribs) 17:44, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- NitRav, once again, if a discussion is necessary then the place to have it is WP:AFD. I would probably support deletion unless someone in the discussion can find any coverage in reliable sources, but this article does not qualify for speedy deletion, and if you put those tags back it would be considered edit warring. The article does not credit Mr Chhipa with discovering soda feldspar, but simply that he found some deposits of it, and "pioneer of mineral Soda Feldspar in Rajasthan" is a clear indication of importance/significance. If you would like help with creating a deletion discussion then I would be happy to create it on your behalf. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:10, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
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FYI Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:24, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
T. G. McGann
Could you pls verify the sources again and undo my edit if you successfully establish that there was such a person. At the moment, none of the sources say anything about T. G. McGann, only about a McGann hospital. I can't access source number one, the book on google, as the page is now blocked. At the moment, it all looks like original research. Many thanks!
Roberto de Ocampo
Thanks for the catch on my erroneous BLPPROD. I could have sworn I looked at history, but it's clearly there... My error entirely. Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 15:33, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Richard Fifer
aparently some people accessing google continue to recieve cached version which contains improperly sourced BLP claims about criminal activities. -- The Red Pen of Doom 20:34, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- it was briefly discussed Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_103#Content_from_deleted_versions_appearing_in_Google_search and I will see if i can find more about it if you wish (i think I found out about it on the BLP notice board.) -- The Red Pen of Doom 20:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- I very much doubt that renaming the article will make any difference. It seems to be something outside of our control that would need to be taken up with Google, but if you think there's a chance that a rename might help then I won't revert it again. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- I dont have any clue about the technicals, and did not move the article. it was moved by Maniako (talk · contribs) (who has an editing history that is strikingly similar to Bluepenoffun (talk · contribs)). -- The Red Pen of Doom 21:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- well, on second thought, my google preview section now lists under his name (as categories?) "convicted drug dealer" - as far as I can make out from the spanish language sources he has not been convicted, merely charged, and then accused of bribing officials to make the charges go away. -- The Red Pen of Doom 21:31, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- I dont have any clue about the technicals, and did not move the article. it was moved by Maniako (talk · contribs) (who has an editing history that is strikingly similar to Bluepenoffun (talk · contribs)). -- The Red Pen of Doom 21:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- I very much doubt that renaming the article will make any difference. It seems to be something outside of our control that would need to be taken up with Google, but if you think there's a chance that a rename might help then I won't revert it again. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
VIAF reverts
I would have liked to be able to leave an edit summary, but unfortunately doing it via rollback doesn't seem to allow one! However, given the complaints about formatting, I decided it was best to mass-rollback and then overwrite with the "correct" edits as soon as possible, which will hopefully minimise the impact on watchlists.
Apologies for the inconvenience! Not the best solution however I did it, I guess. Andrew Gray (talk) 21:10, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
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SPI
Hi mate,
Thought you should be aware of the following - Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Brainbug666.
Cheers, Stalwart111 (talk) 23:46, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Buildings
My rational for nominating under A7 is that buildings are generally also companies, and thus qualify under the organization category. But I can prod them all instead if you think that's safer...maybe I'm stretching on A7. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:44, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Buildings are generally also companies? No, they are quite obviously never companies. Buildings are inanimate physical objects whereas companies are legal entities made up of people. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:49, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
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Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/HD Draw
Hey,
I get the feeling that this article can be kept; I'm wondering where a bulk of the information is coming from, which may be the Trains magazine. Do you have this publication? Without it, it might be tough to keep. - Theornamentalist (talk) 21:19, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Tom Sjogren
Thanks for finding originals of those news articles! The person who filed the AfD said there appeared to be few sources, and I have found more and more newspaper archives are either paywalled or refuse to allow Google indexing, so I'm assuming you took the time to specifically search for each one, but maybe I just didn't beat the bushes enough on Google News first. Either way, I'm hoping the article can be kept with those sources added. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:31, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Drace-Francis
As usual, thanks for letting me know.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:00, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Civil
See WP:CIVIL. Stop the personal attacks against me. It is a weak tactic to try and attack someone in a debate with ad hominem comments. I've had minimal interaction with you, so knock it off with the characterisations of why I do things. IRWolfie- (talk) 22:55, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Don't be ridiculous. I'm perfectly entitled to point out flaws and inconstistencies in your comments. Phil Bridger (talk) 23:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Without looking to see where this came from, though, I can recommend addressing the issue rather than the issuee. For example A says, "the sky is blue", instead of B saying "A, you are wrong", or "you are wrong", it is better to address the issue - "not in my experience", "except when it is overcast", or even, "on Earth maybe", but in all cases focusing on the issue and not on the individual making the remark. All of us are a diverse group of individuals who can all contribute something to improving WP. So please do point out flaws and inconsistencies, but address them generically and not at the individual who made them. And please do keep it civil. Apteva (talk) 18:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- Quite. I did address the issue rather than the issuee. If you had looked at where this came from then you would have seen that. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:29, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent. Apteva (talk) 18:34, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- Quite. I did address the issue rather than the issuee. If you had looked at where this came from then you would have seen that. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:29, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- Absolutely. Without looking to see where this came from, though, I can recommend addressing the issue rather than the issuee. For example A says, "the sky is blue", instead of B saying "A, you are wrong", or "you are wrong", it is better to address the issue - "not in my experience", "except when it is overcast", or even, "on Earth maybe", but in all cases focusing on the issue and not on the individual making the remark. All of us are a diverse group of individuals who can all contribute something to improving WP. So please do point out flaws and inconsistencies, but address them generically and not at the individual who made them. And please do keep it civil. Apteva (talk) 18:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Salty Fingers (plant)
Even if you discount the potential socks, I don't think it changes the outcome - marginal sources, marginal headcount (although I guess if the headcount went to four to four, the closing phrase would need to be slightly different). WilyD 08:36, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Anatoly_Wasserman
Since this AfD is closed, I choose to respond here to you. If a trusted editor could translate the text, perhaps as a quote inside a citation, I would be happy with that. The real problem is that Russian uses an alphabet that Google often mis-spells or mis-translates, thus I can't verify that any of it is true. A book source is fine with me, because I have access to subscriptions that I can use to verify an English, Spanish, or French text source. Since I found at least one English online source, I invoked WP:BARE. Bearian (talk) 14:44, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- "Verifiable" does not mean "verifiable by every individual Misplaced Pages reader". I don't have the patience to discuss with you any further a point that has alread been explained to you ad nauseam in the AfD discussion and at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)#Verifiability for articles with no English sources, and is explained for everyone at WP:V. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:57, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Removing PROD BLP
In this edit you removed the BLP PROD from Aram Van Ballaert, with the edit summary: remove WP:BLPPROD tag - now has a reference. The requirement is not just a reference, but a reference to a reliable source. Do you consider a flyer published by Van Ballaert's managing agency to be a reliable source? WikiDan61ReadMe!! 13:03, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- The source is published by the Belgian embassy in Ukraine. Phil Bridger (talk) 13:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Not exactly. The source was published on the website of the Belgian Embassy in Ukraine. Van Ballaert appeared in a concert there, and the embassy published the managing agency's flier as part of that performance. No Circus is the managing company: you can see the link to their website at the bottom of the first page of the cited reference. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 13:09, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- So we have a source that the Belgian embassy chose to republish saying that van Ballaert played in a concert in Kiev. Are you saying that we can't rely on that to be true? Of course we can. He may or may not be notable (I haven't checked) but the article gets past the requirements of WP:BLPPROD. Phil Bridger (talk) 13:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I suspect we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 14:18, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- So we have a source that the Belgian embassy chose to republish saying that van Ballaert played in a concert in Kiev. Are you saying that we can't rely on that to be true? Of course we can. He may or may not be notable (I haven't checked) but the article gets past the requirements of WP:BLPPROD. Phil Bridger (talk) 13:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Not exactly. The source was published on the website of the Belgian Embassy in Ukraine. Van Ballaert appeared in a concert there, and the embassy published the managing agency's flier as part of that performance. No Circus is the managing company: you can see the link to their website at the bottom of the first page of the cited reference. WikiDan61ReadMe!! 13:09, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Merging Porul ilakkanam to Tamil grammar
I have proposed that Porul ilakkanam be merged to Tamil grammar. Since you recently discussed the articles at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Porul ilakkanam, I would welcome any comments you may have on the proposed merge. The discussion is at Talk:Tamil grammar#Merge discussion. Thanks, and happy editing. Cnilep (talk) 04:16, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Mattheus Marinus Schepman
For someone who has been here as long as you have, your edit summary is disappointing. As I would have thought you would know, a CSD deletion decision is based on the text of the article, not on what one can find elsewhere written about the subject. I have, as it happens, restored this article, which I did before your comment and hence not because of it. The article, as posted, contains absolutely no assertion of notability, unless you wish to stipulate that being an expert on molluscs is an automatic and intrinsic assertion de facto. --Anthony Bradbury 21:40, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- The article had a reference and a "further reading" section listing a book and an academic paper when it was restored, so they must have been there when you deleted it. These are clear indications of importance/significance, as required to get past WP:CSD#A7. It is your action in deleting this, rather than my completely accurate edit summary, that is disappointing. You have demonstrated what I have long thought, that Misplaced Pages's greatest problem is the Dunning–Kruger effect. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:51, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Your De-PROD of the page for Dr. Philip Oxhorn
Hi Phil Bridger. I wanted to commend you on your common-sense De-PROD of this article. The subject clearly and unambiguously meets notability guidelines.
I was hesitant to De-PROD it myself, as the Nom is an activist pursuing a beef against the article creator (me). S/he gutted the article of references a few days ago then PRODded it for lack of RS and proof of notability. When I looked at this editor's edit history, it looks like s/he does this kind of thing regularly: de-references articles then nominates them for deletion due to lack of references.
Any chance you'd want to have a look at the page's edit history and think about re-inserting some of the content that was in the article before it was maimed a few days ago... or maybe just as it stood ? Regards Celtechm (talk) 18:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- I contested deletion because the rationale given was obviously incorrect. That doesn't mean that I'll help you in your efforts to earn money by editing Misplaced Pages. I'm a volunteer here, and make my own choices about what articles to improve. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC)