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re: "stub notices cannot be used in userspace, sorry"?

No, because they will then be listed under Category:Stubs. If you want someone to clean up your userpage, you can however leave an invitation on your userpage for people to clean it up. The {{nonsense}} tag will result in your user page being listed for speedy deletion; this is used for nonsense articles that are frequently created (for example, one article which I recently listed for deletion was titled something like Alligator in sewer and had the text "Alligators sometimes live in sewers". You (Talk) 19:14, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

You can put stubs on your userpage, but you have to take the categories out. → JarlaxleArtemis 23:53, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

• For example, this is the text for the stub template:

<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="stub" align=left><!--]-->   ''This article is a ]. You can ] by or you can a ].'' </div>

→ JarlaxleArtemis 23:55, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

US sterilization laws

See the article on compulsory sterilization for information about U.S. compulsory sterilization laws. --Fastfission 7 July 2005 21:00 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand your question. As the compulsory sterilization page says, a number of states had their own different laws authorizing forced sterilizations on the mentally ill, mentally retarded, and those with other types of disabilities. The specific laws varied from state to state, though, and sometimes had different intents. If you want an example of such a statute, at the bottom of the page on Harry H. Laughlin is a link to his "Model Sterilization Law". --Fastfission 17:55, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Also, there are a number of books on sterilization and eugenics in the United States. A good general history is Daniel Kevles, In the name of Eugenics, which can be found at most libraries. --Fastfission 19:33, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

compulsory sterilization

Fastfission is an expert on this, but to answer your question to him; yes, certain US states did implement compulsory sterilization laws. Dunc|☺ 7 July 2005 21:00 (UTC)

Boothy443

Greetings! I know you wanted to do the right thing by nominating Boothy443, but if you've seen his Request for Comment you know that he's not regarded as suitable by the community right now; with 11 oppose votes already there's no reasonable way the nomination would come close to consensus. I have taken it down for that reason (which is within guidelines, if you've read the Requests for adminship page), and to avoid him being subject to unkind comments by those opposing, such as some of the ones that were already posted, and becoming further frustrated with the community -- which would backfire on your goal of improving Misplaced Pages. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:23, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Couldn't you have at least waited until I found out if he accepts or rejects it. I'm thankful you didn't delete the page so I could read the comments added from when I was gone. The opposing votes can change their votes, though. I also think giving Boothy more responsibility might make him a better editor--at least in him considering what he would do if he was an admin. I'm thankful didn't erase the page (just removed it from the main page) and I linked to that page on his talk page so I'm anxious to see what he will answer and hopeful he'll say more than no, and instead answer the questions. DyslexicEditor 09:59, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

re: vfd

No, I realise I should have written the nomination first and then put the tag up. I would normally preview the page and then follow the red link but was a bit hasty with the "save page" button this time. Sorry to put you out, excellent RC patrolling, though. Flowerparty 22:16, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Jimbo Vandalism

Well, considering that the devil will have my head on a plater because I have a MAJOR exam tomorrow, you could call it a cheap edit. (To save face we can call subtle.) However, I did expect a faster response. ;) --None-of-the-Above 17:13, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

re:RFA

Your soo funny. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 21:16, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

I am laughing so hard i am pissing in my pants. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 03:16, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Rottingham

No prob. Just saw the blank articles without porper redirects and assumed vandalism. Go ahead and remove deletion notices soon as you've fixed the links. Zunaid 14:54, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

But please note it is #redirect not #refer. -- RHaworth 02:24, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

the picture you placed on Pet

Hi,

I hope that I did not offend you by reverting the placement of your image on the Pet web page.

That picture is of lab mice used in a scientific study on mouse obesity, they aren't pets. Therefor it doesn't have anything to do with pets. So, while the sentiment about mistreatement of pets by overfeeding is a good one, the caption you provided about overfeeding and exercise was incorrect. And, well, I thought the image looked out of place in the article.

- Trysha 16:59, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

No, I was just curious. DyslexicEditor 17:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Terri Schiavo

"Terri Schiavo" is spelled as above; her full name was Theresa Marie Schiavo. -- The Anome 12:49, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. You're fast! Also I once had a name like yours. DyslexicEditor 12:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Your edits to paypal and ebay related pages

Hi,

The entire tone of your edits was argumentative, not encyclopedic. If I felt there was something redeemable about them, I would have tried to rewrite them. You have a clear problem separating a personal dislike for a company from how you edit their article and related articles on Misplaced Pages. Your edits to FedEx, for example, were absolutely awful. You included links to a poorly written rant page that had no support for their rants. Your edits to the paypal and ebay related pages were marginally better, but certainly not ready for inclusion. You pasted the exact same paragraph to several pages without making them specific for each instance. You used clearly POV language such as calling eBay's actions "deceptive". You start out the paragraph sounding like you're trying to make an argument for why eBay is lying. In fact, the entire tone of the paragraph sounds like you're trying to argue for why eBay is a Bad Company, rather than being part of an encyclopedia. This is a problem with nearly all of your edits. I'd strongly urge to go back and read some information on NPOV before you continue. kmccoy (talk) 09:22, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Tone is a vague thing. I need specifics and many things are fixed. I am editing to please you, of course, since you follow all my edits around. DyslexicEditor 09:31, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I gave you specifics. Now, learn from them and expand them. I'm not going to be your babysitter. kmccoy (talk) 09:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Then please don't go through thousands of my edits trying to delete everything you can that I contributed. DyslexicEditor 09:41, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Cowtippingroadsign.jpg

This image may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Cowtippingroadsign.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Misplaced Pages (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{GFDL}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairusein|article name}} or {{fairuse}}. See Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. kmccoy (talk) 09:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

This image is obviously cropped from here. If you falsify the source of an image again I will block you from editing. kmccoy (talk) 09:56, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Oddly enough, I know where that sign is, driven by it many a time. That's where California State Route 178 climbs into the Kern River canyon to head for Lake Isabella and Walker Pass enroute to Inyo County. FCYTravis 10:00, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Travis thank you for backing me up. (talk) has gone through every edit I have ever made and tried to revert them all--thousands of them! I told him it was a real sign. As a road sign it is a work of the US Government

It's a real sign, but the photograph is not a work of the government, it's the work of someone else, hence we can't take it as PD. Next time I drive down there I'll get a GFDL photo of it. FCYTravis 10:05, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Concerns about my actions

Please, feel free to report me if you feel I'm violating any rules. kmccoy (talk) 10:08, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

If you're an admin, they don't care what you do. You could even vandalize Jimbo's page and they'd all let you. DyslexicEditor 10:10, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

There's a couple people by the name of Ed Poor and stevertigo who might disagree. FCYTravis 10:12, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I've seen Ed Poor ban people for complaining about admins. See, wikipedia has only de-admined 5 people since it began. It seems to have endless admins and it gets new ones constantly. I don't know the number. Maybe thousands, maybe tens of thousands, but it's a lot. Lots of people who became admins started out doing 8 hours a day heavy edits, then they suddenly have no more time and they just edit a few things, and control the articles they want, too. I don't know about stevertigo, but Ed Poor will ban anyone who complains to him about an admin, period -- I've read that page of his he runs about user issues. Think of it this way, if a cop says you were speeding, and you go to the judge and claim you weren't, the judge sides with the cop (I don't say who the judge believes, that's who he'll side with). Misplaced Pages's people who are above admins always side with the admins. DyslexicEditor 10:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

You missed the point. Ed Poor can't ban anyone now. Both he and stevertigo lost their adminships under Arbcom sanctions. FCYTravis 10:49, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

He's the same guy as "Uncle Ed", right? DyslexicEditor 10:51, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry...

I'm not zscout742. I've been a lot of "~742"s in the past, but never any other "~scout742"s. elvenscout742 20:54, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

What userboxes are

They're small templates meant to be used on userpages, like {{user en}}. There's some controversy about how widely they ought to be used, and for what purposes. -- SCZenz 07:42, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. So categories aren't debated, it's just those things. Hmmm... DyslexicEditor 07:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

There is a related debate about user self-categorization as well. The concern is that userboxes/categories maybe used to organize for POV-pushing or other purposes not beneficial to the encyclopedia. By the way, many userboxes, like the language ones, are completely non-controversial. -- SCZenz 07:54, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I think the categories waste wikipedia's money. DyslexicEditor 08:03, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

How deletion works

Articles are stored forever, and admins can view and restore them. Images are lost, but can often be recovered from mirrors if they were deleted recently. -- SCZenz 08:10, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

ebay, antitrust

I don't see where that source you cite says anything about "antitrust" activities (and besides, that's a peculiar way to describe it; if eBay and/or PayPal engaged in monopolistic activitities, they've done exactly the opposite of antitrust.) We have to be careful with these terms, in particular because they've been bandied about so much. If, indeed, that book makes those accusations, the paragraph should read something like "Eric Jackson, in his book The PayPal Wars, claims that eBay and PayPal have engaged in monopolistic practices" (with of course standard bibliographic cite.) Also, one more thing -- rather than point to a place that advertises a book, just cite (for example) ISBN 0974670103. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 02:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I copied and pasted the cite from paypal. Hmm... Well paypal wars did talk about ebay using its auction monopolistically but it stopped soon after paypal was bought. So mainly it's billpoint in the book. DyslexicEditor 16:10, 13 March 2006 (UTC) Also some argue ebay uses a monopoly is true, not how monopolistic ebay is, but just that a lot of people think it is--many sites throughout the net. DyslexicEditor 16:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I guess what mostly bothers me is that the "monopolistic" pejorative has been used by detractors of eBay to mean anything from raising their fees without regard to their customers' feelings on the matter (imagine any other business doing that...oh wait, every business does that) to buying the competition to actively attacking the competition by unethical means. Without some context, it doesn't really say anything about eBay other than that there's a lot of disgruntled people (dwarfed, of course, by the number of gruntled people.) --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:29, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

The context I'm talking about is in online payment systems. They should have a link to their safe payment policy in the ebay article (unless someone took it out again) that shows how they ban all the other online money transfer systems but their own. And when they had billpoint, they tried to run paypal and other payment systems off their auction. How's that for context? DyslexicEditor 06:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

But it's simply not true that they "ban all other online money transfer systems but their own". Their rules say, "Sellers may offer to accept payment through Certapay and Propay." That's why I keep removing that very same statement. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 15:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, one (certa I think) is only in Canada and only eChecks. The other (Propay I think) is actually just a merchant account, and not an online payment system--and it lacks an actual gateway--customers have to give their credit card information to a person who phones (I think only phones) it in. So aside from this only Canada eCheck, eBay bans all other online payment systems--how about something like that in the article? And a merchant account is not an online payment service in the sense of paypal or moneybookers or stormpay or greenzap (or greendot?) or others. So what'dya think, ebay bans all online payment services except a Canada one that only allows eChecks. And then in Paypal wars, eBay tried to force paypal and others off its site to use its system billpay and when that failed they bought paypal. Or basically its sort of making it very difficult to not accept its paypal by insane, demanding site integration. ? DyslexicEditor 06:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

So what if it makes it very difficult? Businesses get to do exactly that; you can't pay your American Express bill with a Mastercard. Anyway, we both have our biases on this one; I try to keep mine under control by not putting in POV language about how wonderful a business eBay has been for the vast majority of users, and by not putting in POV language about what an nasty place it was to work. A lot -- an awful lot -- of the anti-eBay and anti-PayPal stuff out there is pure crap, and crap copied from crap. This is a natural outgrowth of eBay's size and the nature of its membership. Its part of the same oddness that gets Meg Whitman on Forbes "best CEO" list, and at the same time on Forbes "worst CEO" list. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:21, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow you worked for ebay. And all this time I thought you were a random admin. Yes, ebay is nice, but it has problems and I think its payment stuff and paypal problems should be shed light on--paypal wars did somewhat for billpay (or billpoint?). A lot of companies might be nasty to work in--Eric Jackson said ebay was very beurocratic, but I think if ebay stands out among other companies--I'm not that old but have seen many bad work environments-- as bad to work in some way unique, then it should go there, I think. Aside from ebay gouging on fees and that all the buyers old go to ebay, it's the paypal monopoly that was the problem. Most of the stuff I post of problems I've experienced firsthand, too, and know it's true. DyslexicEditor 08:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

• (unindent) More bias to beware of. "Gouging on fees" -- that's just hooey. Price gouging spells it out well, I think: In colloquial usage, it means simply that the speaker thinks the price too high, and it often degenerates into a term of demogoguery. In eBay's case, charges of "price gouging" have been flung around (as irresponsibly and inaccurately as charges of monopoly) every time eBay does what any other (unregulated) company gets to do in a capitalist free-market economy: set its prices to suit its purpose (which for most companies in most cases is to maximize profit). Now don't get me wrong -- I think eBay is clumsy as all hell, PR-wise, regarding changes in their pricing structures, but that's just personal opinion. As far as the workplace is concerned, I've worked for a lot of companies; there was nothing particularly unusual (at least, unusual enough to document in Misplaced Pages) about what made eBay (for me) a bad place to work. It's just the worst place I worked that I didn't quit quickly. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 17:14, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Akupara

Thanks for your message, and for fixing the wikification for me - apologies for the oversight! - Samsara (talk • contribs) 01:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Ebay/safepaymentpolicyemail3 20 2006 moved

I have moved Ebay/safepaymentpolicyemail3 20 2006 to User:DyslexicEditor/Ebay/safepaymentpolicyemail3 20 2006, as the contents did not appear to be appropriate for the article namespace. --Allen3  19:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I didn't do this move, although I did leave a comment on the discussion page. The 10-minute wait you mentioned was probably maintenance-related.Bjones 01:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Anti-furry site voted for deletion

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Encyclopaedia_Dramatica I hope you will vote for delete DyslexicEditor 05:53, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I voted, but not for delete. The site's policies on furries are irrelevant to its notability or suitability for a Misplaced Pages article. GreenReaper 01:00, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Nope

I just tried to fix a move that appeared (on my browser) to result in the "ON WHEELS" part of the page name vanishing. _{Luc "Somethingorother" French} 01:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Terrorism

The Google links don't work, but the BitTorrent ones do - though be warned it's a gig so takes a while to download. I downloaded it fine though. ElectricRay 16:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Image tagging

Greetings. I have reverted the retagging of the ebay images, because you cannot retag images inaccurately to save them from deletion. The bot goes and automatically tags fair use images with the warning tamplte where they are not used in article space so they may be brought in compliance with policy or deleted. They get at least 7 days grace period and you didn't give the bot operator even a full 24 hours to respond. As it happens, I can see a fair case for keeping these, in which case you can tag them as "{{notorphan}}" to keep them from getting retagged, but please do not be so quick to assume you will not get a response. Retagging fair use images with other license tags is never appropriate. Thanks, Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:01, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I somehow mistook the time for several days. Also my tag was not dishonest because screenshots one's private email is questionable as possibly self-made instead of fair use. To recap (1) I screwed up on the time. (2) It was not intended as dishonest.

To prove it was not dishonest: If I meant it as dishonest, I would use another account with another IP to reupload the images. DyslexicEditor 00:32, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Joshua Wolf

The Google data is in. Please revisit the discussion as you suggested previously. — Apr. 2, '06 <freakofnur_xture|talk>

Userbox question

You wrote:

Hi, I saw you had a nice link to the userbox thing on your userpage. I thought this all happened months ago (at least with Jimbo deleting the user boxes) even though people constantly argue about it. Your one link sums it up pretty well. Can you give me some links that best sum the whole issue up (or the controversy and drama and events)--the debate is really really long? DyslexicEditor 16:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there really is no summation, other than my little tirade (grin) so, with apologies, the links on my user page will have to do. If you should find an overview that I've missed, please, pass it on. :) RadioKirk talk to me 16:14, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Just a favor to ask you

Would you please find out for me who deleted User_talk:DyslexicEditor/header I had worked a long time modifying freakofnurture's header and I didn't save it anywhere on my hard drive (I don't believe it was freakofnurture because I told thanked the person on their talk page for it). I can't find out who did it in the deletion log (searching doesn't seem to work well). If there is a reason why it was deleted I'd like to know. If not, would you undelete it for me? Thank you. DyslexicEditor 16:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I tried several names and found who it was. It was freakofnurture. DyslexicEditor 16:52, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Would you undelete it for me or give me the source code to it please? DyslexicEditor 16:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Can't, sorry. While I'm working to be an admin someday, I'm not yet, so I can't undelete anything. I should probably mention that, even if I were a SysOp, I would not simply undo another admin's actions anyway; it would require discussion first. You'll need to go straight to User:Freakofnurture. :) RadioKirk talk to me 17:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

It said on your page you nominated yourself for admin or something or the other. DyslexicEditor 17:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

"RadioKirk was nominated for Adminship at Misplaced Pages after only a few months of significant participation. 'Though the nomination was voted down,' he says, 'I like to think my efforts here have been validated by my peers, and I am honored. My thanks to Azathar for the nomination...'" RadioKirk talk to me 17:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

racist

The correct Englist word is racist. Would it have been really so difficult to add this information? Bgully 06:24, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I was guessing it was a typo for sarcastic or a jargon word I hadn't heard of. DyslexicEditor 15:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Are you being serious?

Re: your comments here. You write, Just feel glad that the admin has not banned you--that's a very good sign. Maybe they're stressed. If they were really after you they would block you without any communication or warning -- and to make sure nobody questions the block they would say something like "sockpuppet", which nobody questions. IMHO the admin is just stressed / insane from personal problems. Does that actually happen? Can you show me examples? --Cyberboomer 20:52, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes I was. Giving examples of bad admins would be self-harming though. But in the message, the admin hadn't even banned the person--that means the admin is not really out after them. DyslexicEditor 00:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hitler?

Re:Hiel!You need a picture of Der Führer! Or a photoshopped one of the person you called hitler (with a mustache and swastika at least).

I think you may have got the wrong person or I missed the joke...? Joe_Momma 06:32 27 April 2006 (What's UTC?)

It was a joke on somebody who called someone hitler but didn't make much effort. DyslexicEditor 17:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Klingon templates

Hi. All the Klingon language templates are listed in Misplaced Pages:Userboxes/Non-ISO Languages#tlh (Klingon). ISO code KL is reserved for Greenlandic/Kalaallisut language.

So I've changed the language code call in your babel box. :D Hégésippe | ±Θ± 01:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I think there is no enough (!) people to update Babel templates on English Misplaced Pages. On French Misplaced Pages, it seems to be more easier.

About Klingon Wikipeda, Database is locked for a few months, because there was a choice to decide that Klingon and Tokipona wikis had no place as Misplaced Pages projects. Maybe another project could uprise on Wikia communities, if there is enough people to help to develop a Klingon Wikia. There was also, a long time ago, a Misplaced Pages project in tokipona language (see: tokipona:Main Page), but all the project was moved to wikia:tokipona:lipu lawa. :D Hégésippe | ±Θ± 17:04, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

WP:NPA

Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. -- Malber (talk · contribs) 17:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)