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August 2012

Hello, I'm Macaddct1984. Misplaced Pages is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Category:Jewish anti-Zionism seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, MacAddct1984 14:59, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Your lawsuit

Hi! In this edit, you indicated that you are planning a lawsuit against Misplaced Pages. That is entirely your right. However, while you are in the process of suing Misplaced Pages, Misplaced Pages's policies require that you stop editing Misplaced Pages, and instead, your communication with Misplaced Pages should happen between your lawyer and the Wikimedia Foundation's lawyer. You can read more about that at WP:LEGAL. I also noticed, in that edit, that you had misunderstood which of your edits was against Misplaced Pages's rules- the problem edit was this one. You can read more about Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy at WP:NPOV. The rules require me to block this account from editing, until your lawsuit has concluded. However, I think there's a chance that you were just making an idle threat, and aren't really planning a lawsuit. If that's the case, all you need to do is respond to this message, clearly stating that you are not involved in a lawsuit against Misplaced Pages or any of its editors, and have no plan to file such a lawsuit in the future. I'll wait a few minutes before blocking this account, to give you a chance to respond. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:26, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Amiram Goldblum

In attempting to remove the inaccurate and biased information from this article, you also removed some basic Misplaced Pages information, like the category tags and the reference list. I've restored those, but removed information which seemed to be verified only by sources that don't meet Misplaced Pages's reliable source guidelines. I'll try to keep an eye on this article, to make sure that only well-cited information is added to it. I may have made some errors in fact simply because I don't have much knowledge of chemistry or Zionism, but I will do my best! Be aware that facts about you that are reported in reliable sources will get to stay in the article. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:32, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Additional question, regarding notability

Does Misplaced Pages need an article about you? Here are Misplaced Pages's criteria for notability for university professors; do you think that you meet that criteria? It looks like this article was created purely for political reasons; if you don't meet that criteria, I'd be happy to nominate this article to be deleted from Misplaced Pages. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:35, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Rastiniak. You have new messages at Macaddct1984's talk page.
Message added 18:36, 12 August 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

MacAddct1984 18:36, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


HI AGAIN,

i AM NOT SURE THAT i ANSWER PROPERLY, BUT CLEARLY NEED YOUR PROTECTION. i DO NO REGARDS MYSELF AS ONE OF THE CHEMISTS WHO ARE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BE ON[REDACTED] - MAYBE i WILL CHANGE MY MIND, BUT THAT ONLY IF I MANAGE TO DISCOVER A MAJOR IMPORTANT ANTI CNACER DRUG, WHICH IS MY MAIN ACTIVITY i AM INDEED INVOLVED IN POLITICAL ACTIVITY AND THIS ARTICLE ABOUT ME WAS CLEARLY INTRODUCED FOR POLITICAL SMEARING OF ME. i CNA ALSO ADD THAT NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THE ITEMS UNDER THE "CONTROVERSY" TITLE IN MY "BIOGRAPHY" IS CORRECT, AND THE ONLY PARTIALLY CORRECT ONE MENTIONS FINANCIAL QUESTIONING OF MY SUPPORT TO PM BARAK IN 1990, BUT I WAS NEVER CHARGED IN COURT FOR THAT, SO THAT IS A LIE AS WELL. aLL THE "SOURCES" CITED IN MY BIOGRAPHY, EXCEPT FOR THE NEUTRAL ONES ABOUT MY UNIVERSITY POSITION, ARE "SELF CREATED".

YOU MAY SAFELY DELETE MY NAME FROM WIKIPEDIA, AS THERE IS NO REASON YET TO INCLUDE ME THERE

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP, Rastiniak (talk) 18:48, 12 August 2012 (UTC)AMIRAM

Thanks- I'll start the procedure for deleting this article. It will be several days -maybe as long as a week - before it is deleted, but in the meantime, there are at least two of us watching it to prevent the restoration of the biased information. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:52, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


Thank you very much ! Rastiniak (talk) 19:00, 12 August 2012 (UTC)rastiniak (Amiram Goldblum)

Greetings

Hi Rastiniak

I note your comments at User talk:Soosim/Amiram Goldblum. You may be interrested at looking at the record of my Misplaced Pages stalker: See Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Runtshit and Category:Misplaced Pages sockpuppets of Runtshit. There are several other related pages, and I would be happy to share information with you regarding this; I believe that we have a common enemy. (Note, however, that I do not share your opinion that to be called an anti-Zionist is abusive). RolandR (talk) 00:49, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

1400+ socks? omG..... Soosim (talk) 17:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

the new Amiram Goldblum page

hey rastiniak - you are in violation of several wiki rules with all of your changes. the best solution for now might be to just stop editing that page. the next best might be to revert most of your edits since they are in violation of the rules (WP:1RR).

in any case, i have brought the article to the attention of other editors and to the WP:BLPN. you may comment there, or here, or anywhere, if you want.

i think for the betterment of wikipedia, it would behoove you to learn some of the basic rules and to follow them. your edits, as they stand now, are very very disruptive and can lead to sanctions. Soosim (talk) 17:17, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Request to stop the Vandalism on the Amiram Goldblum article

I have already made several requests to stop the vandalism by political rivals who try to smear the name of Goldblum by adding irrelevant information and adding lines to the "political Acitivity" section on that page which are a set of swears rather than reference based information. There is nothing on that page as it was edited by rastinak that has the slightest ingredient of incorrect information. I hope that senior[REDACTED] editors would indeed intervene in order to block the political smearing, which is a repeat of the attempts during August 2012 that ended by deleting the article altogether. This may be the preferred avenue now. Rastiniak (talk) 17:53, 2 December 2012 (UTC)rastiniak

See Misplaced Pages:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Amiram_Goldblum, Misplaced Pages:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Amiram_Goldblum.27s_disruptive_editing and User_talk:Sean.hoyland#amiram_goldblum. Several editors aree aware of the problems here, and are working to resolve this. Meanwhile, I would advise you to pay special attention to the Misplaced Pages rules about edit-warring, and not to allow yourself to be drawn into a trap whereby you will be blocked while your defamers will be free to continue. RolandR (talk) 18:26, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

December 2012

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Misplaced Pages, as you did to Amiram Goldblum, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 21:09, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Misplaced Pages articles, as you did to Steven Plaut. Doing so violates Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Hertz1888 (talk) 22:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

To User:Hertz1888 : I wonder how the steven Plaut article can remain neutral without stressing his most important activity in Israel, Isracampus.org.il, where he is the initiator (after separating from the right wing watchdog Israel-Academia-monitor in 2008), the "master mind" (writing most of the names articles on Isracampus, and he presenting himself as plaut@isracampus

and being the owner of that site (according to all neutral examinations). This site has been already the reason for the Neve Gordon libel suit against Plaut and is now subject to a second libel suit by Goldblum. Please explain what is wrong in presenting his own mocking of the Palestinian Nakba, where he "congratulates" the Palestinians with his hopes for more Nakbas ? Is he ashamed of what he wrote ? or maybe proud of it and will be happy if it is mentioned in his article, a fact that might have been ignored until now ? Please explain why not bring his own very extreme words to be publicly acknolwedged ? Rastiniak (talk) 22:44, 8 December 2012 (UTC)rastiniak

Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and not a site for expressing our opinions. Please try to avoid editorializing and stick to what is reliably sourced. It is your added comments and conclusions (such as "smears", "do not adhere" and "mocked") that make the edit problematic. WP cannot take a non-neutral tone in its own voice. Relevant policies are found at WP:NPOV, WP:NOTSOAP (especially nos. 1 & 2) and elsewhere. Your labeling of "his extreme right-wing ideologies" is also uncited, and an apparent violation of WP:BLP as well as WP:LABEL. Hertz1888 (talk) 04:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
To User:Hertz1888 I understand and agree with your explanations. I am still learning, maybe the hard way.... with that being said, what about a source such as Steven Plaut's own words, please suggest how to introduce it, or why not to introduce it: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11654 ? Other citations by him are found on his page, why should that one be excluded ? Thank you. Rastiniak (talk) 15:34, 9 December 2012 (UTC)rastiniak


Please do not attack other editors, as you did to Talk:Amiram Goldblum. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Mifter (talk) 23:34, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

to Mifter It seems to me that I did not attack on this present page any editor but I asked relevant questions concerning content that were unanswered yet. It will be good to learn what are the opinions of WP editors about including in the article about Steven Plaut the following piece of his:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11654 which reflects more than a thousand photos his ideas. Please recommend if it should be discussed on the talk page of the Plaut article. Thank you. Rastiniak (talk) 23:46, 8 December 2012 (UTC)rastiniak

October 2012 Yisraela Goldblum Fund poll

Please do not make comments in a Misplaced Pages article. Instead, use the article's Talk page, Talk:October 2012 Yisraela Goldblum Fund poll.

Also, please read WP:Assume good faith and WP:No personal attacks. Comment on content, not on contributors. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 05:46, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


To Talk Thank you for your useful comments. Unfortunately, we are too experienced with these attempts by user:soosim and others to smear the name of goldblum by all kinds of tricks, that senior editors of wikipedia already identified and are well aware of, and there is clearly no aspect of WP:Assume good faith in this case, quite the contrary, as there is no problem to identify a Smear Campaign here and elsewhere. Rastiniak (talk) 19:12, 1 January 2013 (UTC)Rastiniak

January 2013

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Talk:October 2012 Yisraela Goldblum Fund poll. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 20:30, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at Talk:October 2012 Yisraela Goldblum Fund poll, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 21:23, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Israel and the apartheid analogy. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring states:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
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