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Oops. Oh well. Too late now! --M1ss1ontomars2k4 04:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Harry S. Truman has a period.

The idea that there's no period after the "S" is an urban legend. Harry S. Truman himself used the period both in his signature and on his letterhead. - Nunh-huh 05:47, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

yes i realized that after i read the actual article on ol' harry. i trust you have changed it back already? M1ss1ontomars2k4 05:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

But of course<g>! - Nunh-huh 05:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

George W. M. Reynolds

I have added some content to this article on a British novellist and journalist. I would be grateful if you could take a look.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Capitalistroadster (talk • contribs)

That's more of an article. Do you think you could add more? also, sign your name with four tildes. M1ss1ontomars2k4 05:02, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

AfD

Please use the {{prod}} or {{db}} tag if its not a controversial issue. Thanks in advance, --TBC 05:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

hm...i suppose so...i just don't like taking the risk that other will think its is controversial :( but if you say so.M1ss1ontomars2k4 05:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Not to worry. If others object to the {{prod}} or {{db}} tag, they can always remove the tag and propose the article on AfD --TBC 05:46, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Mark Rothko

Hi, maybe it is because I go slower and fall behind, but I'm noticing that several people are missing some of the vandalism. For instance in Mark Rothko you'll see that the vandal made two edits, but you only reverted one of them. Of course, maybe that was just you picking the wrong link to start your revert. Just being grumpy I guess. You are definitely helping. Shenme 05:39, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

SpaghettiO's

I turned that nonsense page into a redirect to the actual brand. I had no idea it was normally spelled without a space. "Uh-oh", indeed... Bobak 05:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Opera (web browser)

Hi, thanks for your contribution to the opera article. I admire your dedication to getting the information, but I had to revert it due to Misplaced Pages's no original research policy. If you can find a reliable source that backs it up, you can include it. Thanks. - Motor (talk) 19:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Haha...oops i forgot about the WP:NOR stuff. But does that mean if i got a friend to do research and I added it to WP, does that still count as OR?M1ss1ontomars2k4 20:53, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Probably... yes it would still be OR. It depends on who the friend is and where he publishes his findings. Here's the relevant bit from the WP:NOR policy:

Misplaced Pages articles include material on the basis of verifiability, not truth. That is, we report what other reliable sources have published, whether or not we regard the material as accurate. In order to avoid doing original research, and in order to help improve the quality of Misplaced Pages articles, it is essential that any primary-source material, as well as any generalization, analysis, synthesis, interpretation, or evaluation of information or data, has been published by a reputable third-party publication (that is, not self-published) that is available to readers either from a website (other than Misplaced Pages) or through a public library.

- Motor (talk) 21:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

How's this? It's a little outdated, but the same thing happens today. M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I took so long to reply... someone else posted on your talk page and I overlooked your note on the watchlist. That article is actually already included in the article, but under a different link. What you need is a reliable verifiable source (a news organistion, or even an Opera developer speaking in an official capacity), that you can use as a source for what you are saying today. (BTW: It's probably better to continue this on the Opera talk page. Thanks - Motor (talk) 02:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: My username

I was in an academic challenge club in high school too. We also did activities similar to quiz bowl. Your username is also very interesting. It's very longAcademic Challenger 23:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Robert Federer

While I understand your concern, I do not believe the article should be deleted. A google search of his name reveals hits independent of his status as Roger's dad, and his study was published in a notable peer-reviewed, scholarly publication, indicating that it did in fact have some impact on the field in which he works (chemical whitening). We should definitely clean up and expand the article, but not delete it. What do you think? Stanley011 05:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Da Vinci Code

Hey I went ahead and did it yea but student-rant is there usual. Adding links in mid page instead of external solutions they way you requested and set the page up.

Hi, I saw that you've added {{sprotect}} to the Da Vinci Code's page. I appreciate your desire to stop/prevent vandalism, but merely adding that template doesn't protect the page. Since anonymous edits continued while it was present, it doesn't appear to dissuade vandalism either. If you think protection is warranted (and it may well be; I haven't been following very closely), you really should put in a request at WP:RPP. -- stubblyhead | /_c 00:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello there! Erm...what does the sprotect thing do anyway, if it doesn't actually prevent nonsense edits?M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The template itself doesn't do anything, it's purely informational. Administrators can protect a page and can then put the template up to show that it's been done. You or I putting it there would be like adding Template:test5 to someone's user page--all talk, no action. -- stubblyhead | /_c 00:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok thanks. But that's boring. ;( M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, but at least it's effective. If you really feel that vandalism is a major problem for that article, then by all means put in a request for protection. -- stubblyhead | /_c 00:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Request placed. Thx. M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

SCOTW

SCOTW

Deryck C. 11:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Woodlawn Catholic

Hi, I see you marked this article for speedy deletion. I almost did the same but couldn't find a CSD that it fell under, so I used the prod process instead. One small thought: if you come across an article that is tagged for prod (or AfD) and you decide to nominate it for speedy, could you leave the prod notice in place? That way if it is not speedied, it will still go through prod. There is no reason not to have both on the article. Thanks, Gwernol 00:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Deleting crap

Happy to oblige, though at 2am (roughly) local time it's about time I went to bed! -- Francs2000 01:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The Da Vinci Code's tagging

Hi. Concerning this edit you made at this article. Notice that the article was never protected or semi-protected. The {{sprotected}} tag is only to be added when the article has been protected. Ordinarily, the Admin who protects the article will add the tag. Please do not re-add the tag again. If you believe that semi-protection is required for the article, please post a request at WP:RfPP, or, alternatively, contact an Admin directly and provide evidence to support your claim. Once the article has indeed been protected, then the tag will be re-inserted. Thanks, Redux 02:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I see it. I was browsing the requests for editing protected pages, where an anon had posted the odd request. But your request for protection was already up. I have reviewed it. Indeed, IPs have been spamming the article. I will protect the article. But since anons are doing it, semi-protection should suffice, and it will permit legitimate users to continue to work on the article. Thanks, Redux 02:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

We are now trying to get the IP involved to stop before protecting the article. If he doesn't, he will be blocked. Then, if other IPs take over, I will protect the article. Redux 02:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I got your message. Thanks yea the user 67.101.128.6 who is telling me that I was going to get banned or something. Anyways you can see all day he has been messing with the page and other users have been continually reverting the page. Thanks M1ss Rodgerbales 03:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Gwernol#da_vinci_code_page He is trying to blame this on the admin from my site when I am not even the one that is making the revision. Other people are making them because this guy is spamming. I did as you requested trying to abide by the rules of the wiki and even created a whole new blog just for the Da Vinci Code like you requested and he is blaming this one me. It's crazy especially since I am not even the one making the revisions, other users are.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodgerbales (talk • contribs)

Hi, thanks for your comment about 67.101.128.6 on my talk page. I came across him/her while looking at Recent Changes and I agree, there was a lot of spamming going on, escalating into an edit war, vandalism and gross WP:3RR violation. Along with Pegasus1138 I made a case on WP:AIV and 67.101.128.6 has now been blocked for 24 hours. I don't know what will happen after that time limit expires, but I hope the user takes this time to cool off and accept that they can't go around vandalising articles like that. Best, Gwernol 03:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

As spamming continued from different IPs, the article is now semi-protected. Regards, Redux 16:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Internet Threats

Hey, you seemed to be fairly knowledgable about Internet activity. This user from student-rant has create this page http://assfucked.blogspot.com and has threatened me. Is there something I should do about this? Rodgerbales 16:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

re webquest help links removed

I can't believe how you people run this place. WTF is wrong with you? There were 5 different linked sites that provided help on the Da Vinci Code webquests - 2 were for the original webquest and those links had been here on Misplaced Pages for several years without issue and were the most well-used resources for the webquests on the internet, and then 3 more links were recently added for help with the NEW Google webquests that just started this month. NOTE that these new Google webquests are not related to the older original webquests at all, and do NOT superced them in any manner. ONE person comes along who has created a new site that provides help ONLY for the NEW Google webquests (and no help whatsoever with the older original webquests), and this prat deletes ALL the links and information to ALL the webquest help sites both old and new, and replaces them with his own link, and when several site owners try to put their information back up, this clown repeatedly deletes it ..and then you mods back him up??? WTF is up with that??? PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR ACTIONS??? Your page now provides absolutely no links to help with the original webquests, and only one link for help with the new webquest, which is all thanks to this one selfish prat from googlefact.blogspot.com. Oh wait, there's one more link too, and that's to his mirror site at davinciquest.blogspot.com. How can you justify your actions? The owner of googlefact.blogspot.com also posted on the site of one of the links he removed (student-rant.blogspot.com), to laugh at everyone and thank us all for the traffic and the ad-impression revenue it is generating for him. AND THIS IS WHAT YOU PEOPLE SEEM TO CONDONE???? If you could give some reason for your actions then perhaps all of us site owners who were deleted could understand, but we do not see that there is any justification for what you have done, nor has anyone offered any. The ONLY message we're getting here is that it pays to manipulate Misplaced Pages for personal gain and delete everyone else's links but your own. WE HUMBLY REQUEST YOU RECTIFY THIS MATTER AND THEN LOCK THE PAGE TO STOP THE PERSON WHO STARTED ALL THIS FROM DOING IT AGAIN - which happens to be the one link you have left on the page. At a bare minimum, restore the help links to the original webquests so people looking for help with them can actually get some. I still can't believe how unjustly you mods have administered this matter so far. The person who instigated this 'war' appears to be the person who posted above - Roger Bales. Explain your actions Roger and try telling the truth.

Look at the revert history -- it has more truth than you can handle. I never removed anybodys link from the page. Look at the very first revision that I made. I simply added my site to the page under your link. Thats all I did. Rodgerbales 18:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Keith Marlowe

• Please don't disrupt Misplaced Pages to make a point. He has just been through an articles for deletion process so a CSD nomination is not appropriate. After the duration of a suitable period of time (say two or three months) it might be appropriate to renominate for Articles for Deletion if the article is not referenced.Capitalistroadster 00:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for the clarification and apologies for the mistake. Capitalistroadster 00:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Keith Marlowe Part II

• Hey, please stop referring to me as a 'puppet' or whatever. Anyways, yes you did do WP:BITE, but whatever, sort of understood. Anyways, the reason being, when you keep inciting people to do that, my userpage keeps getting vandalized!! Its getting annoying. Anything you can do to help would be appreciated. Thx --Blogger82 01:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for helping to clear my userpage. Is there anything I can do to stop people from doing that?--Blogger82 01:22, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

• Yeah, no worries. I know how you thought that, but you should have probably just put a blurb on my discussion page and I would have responded. :) LOL, I'm worried when you said creating a userpage is (sort of) fun. I think I'll take a pass. Sort of sounds like I could regret it :)

I think we should keep Ameria's posting or whatever, but if it can't be backed up in 3 days, someone should erase it--that's my opinion on the whole thing. It took FellowWikipedian like a day to find some stuff about Marlowe, so it shouldn't take Ameria_Idol too long to find citations that prove his/her points or the points of 'others'.--Blogger82 01:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

What To Do About This? Da Vinci Code

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:The_Da_Vinci_Code#Solutions_addition

I don't care if their links are back in so long as mine is allowed to remain as well(I never took them out actually). Please advise. Rodgerbales 00:19, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Rodger Bales you are so full of sh*t

Canadian-bio-stub

Just for future reference, we use {{Canada-bio-stub}}. Canadian-bio-stub was deleted per WP:SFD. Royboycrashfan 04:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

merge

I noticed you started an AFD on Characters Per Second in Typing. If you think the article should be merged and redirected, you're welcome to be bold and do it yourself. You don't have to wait for group consensus for something like that. Joyous | Talk 23:05, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Ryan 'Ryu' Maginn

His B-Day is not in 1994. In his bio, it says "Years Active", that means how many years he has been an active rapper, not when he was born. Please get back to me when you read this. Jay 19:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• No prob. Just wanted to clear that up with you. Jay 01:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Disambig with popups

Fixing disambigs isn't enabled by default, you have to enable the option "popupFixDabs" in your monobook.js as per Misplaced Pages:Tools/Navigation_popups#Options Regards, MartinRe 23:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

p.s. I think you also need to set simplePopups to false. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:16, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds logical. The default for simplePopups is false anyway, which is why I never came across that issue as I never changed it. Hope it's all working now! :) Regards, MartinRe 00:22, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

re: Keith Marlowe

I sympathize with your frustration over the edit-warring which is occurring on this page. You are right to step in to attempt to mediate. However, your comment at the top of the page was over the line. You do not own the article any more than the anon users in the edit war do. You may not require anyone to "run everything by you" nor may you threaten to have anyone banned. To be honest, such threats are far more likely to get you blocked as a violation of WP:CIVIL, an action which would leave the edit-warriors with even less to hold them in check.

I trust that this was just a loss of temper and that reverting the comment is sufficient.

For the page itself, it looks like the edit war has died down for the night. If it continues, please contact me (or any other admin) and request that the page be temporarily protected. That is the normal approach to forcing the participants in an edit war to move their dispute to the Talk page. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 04:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

-Did you see the discussion page recently? I guess the truth comes out. I always KNEW there was some sort of political hatred going on there--that was the only explanation. Anyways I posted some comments there---I think we may finally be getting to the bottom of this whole thing, and quite possibly opening up the article to make it better without all these damn edit wars!--Blogger82 15:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Recent bot edits with misleading edit summary

If your bot is going to tag articles with {{db-bio}}, it should reflect that in the edit summary rather than "bot-aided spell checker"... (ESkog) 21:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

The Road Ahead; America's Creeping Revolution

Although I agree that this reads like a promotional piece for the book, it is also informative, and is not directing the reader of the article to a store or website where the book can be purchased. This is not a speedy deletion candidate, so I have restored the article and sent it to AfD instead. Cheers! BDAbramson T 04:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Bot

Your bot is creating some redirects, but they don't seem to work when the characters aren't normal ASCII. Specifically, your bot seems to be grabbing titles from the URLs and instead of putting in () , it's putting in &28 (or whatever the code is), which breaks the redirects. Mak (talk) 04:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Compare and contrast :(

If you do not fix your bot in the next 5 minutes, I will block it. Mak (talk) 04:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I have blocked your bot for 1 hour. Contact me for an unblock. Mak (talk) 04:46, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks for blocking--regretfully, I wasn't at my computer at the time. I saw your example at that school thing in Brockton, MA. According to the diff, you've changed %28 and %29 to "(" ")", respectively. The redirects are confirmed to be broken. BTW, I've turned off the bot until this is resolved (duh...). Which, at the current moment, means pretty much forever, unless i go back to simple spell-checking. What I need to know (i think) is how UTF-8 is treated at wikipedia. If it's OK, if/when/etc. i get unblocked i will try one page with UTF-8 disabled, and maybe another with ASCII on (if that's an option). --M1ss1ontomars2k4 05:16, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll unblock you/ your bot/ hopefully your IP now (let me know if the unblock doesn't work, sometimes the autoblocks are weird). Unfortunately I don't know much about programming, but you can ask specific questions at the Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical). Cheers, Mak (talk) 05:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, M1ss1ontomars2k4! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. PS2pcGAMER (talk) 00:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

lol. VandalBot automatically welcomes the user when they are added to the access list, but for some reason it welcomed you three times and then crashed. Ironically, it didn't automatically welcome the other user that I also added at all. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 01:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: David Blaine

Sorry, there must be some misunderstanding, the only section that I wrote in the article was the popular culture section, while your link definitely suggests that I changed that part of the article about sex offenders, I promise that I didn't.

While you have solid evidence, I swear to you, I don't know muchabout that subject and so therefore I would never write about it. Thanks for clearing this up. Pumpkin Pi 15:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for clarifying. The information that I wrote was sumarized from the original super best friends article, but I will shorten my summary to make it fit the article better. You do great work, keep it up. Pumpkin Pi 02:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

The page is blocked from editing due to vandalism. Sorry, I'm new to Misplaced Pages, is there any way around this in the short term, or does one just have to wait for the dust to settle. Thanks for helping me out. Pumpkin Pi 02:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

You don't need to worry about re-adding it. Someone already summarized my paragraph in the trivia section. I'm glad this worked out in the end. Pumpkin Pi 02:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

use of nn in nominations

Good idea. Though for nn stuff it should probably be speedied anyway if you ask me. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 01:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

In many cases, yes. But it's better, when we can, to give an article a chance to improve if there is a chance that it would actually benefit the encyclopedia. You may like the userbox {{user delete}}. Stifle (talk) 11:05, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't need more admins

I just think there are too many admins out there who abuse their powers, and so we need a sort of Request for removal of Admins or something before we have more. Ardenn 23:22, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, exactly! I'll do that next time, I don't comment on many RFA's. Ardenn 23:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Vigor

Yes, I must have forgotten to finish the AfD for that article, although I can't imagine why. Thanks for letting me know, I'll do it again and this time right. Oh and thanks for letting me know about my "history of strange deletion practices", didn't know that either. Optimale 11:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh I know now why it didn't work yesterday and why I got confused! After adding {{subst:afd1}} to the article, the link to the deletion page already exists and shows a page with an already finished procedure of a speedy deletion process. So I was confused and thought maybe this article was deleted while I was working on it. Well, the same thing happens now again and as I'm not sure what to do with that strange phenomina, I'll forget the AfD for the moment and get on with my life. Optimale 11:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Smokin ban

"In short, don't remove content from Misplaced Pages." This is not an absolute rule. I've read the discussion first, nobody there says that the personal habits of Hitler have any significance for the topic at hand. All doubt the NPOV of that part. If nobody defends this paragraph, why not delete it? If you have arguments, post them at discussion. But Hitler's habits are NOT an argument per se, or else we would have to quote his opinion at every other topic, like vegetarism, classical music, cars, art...81.14.152.197 23:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey,

After reading over the "Random Blank Areas" I discovered that they were generally false and were not supported by any sources. I'm not sure if you read over them in the page history, but they were incredibly offensive and racist and were most likely tagged on at some point by an abusive or racist user trying to spread a racist message.

Read it over, it clearly violates the NPOV policy.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.203.196 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for the heads-up

Yep, you were right, I have poor reverting skills. :) I guess I'll need to be more careful and make sure I revert everything next time. Mr. Lefty _{Talk to me!} 00:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

VF mac screenshot

thx, nice addition :) Henna 13:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

My username

It could also mean

• He/she is not a big-eared sedan chair
• He/she is not fighting lust
• He/she is not riding the rain.

But mostly it means he is not a big fish. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:35, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Viva La Wii60...

It says you put my article up for quick deletion...I wanted to know why...— Preceding unsigned comment added by Justicemanjj15 (talk • contribs)

"Shia view of"...

• Shi'a view of Abu Bakr
• Shi'a view of Abu Huraira
• Shi'a view of Ali
• Shi'a view of Hasan ibn Ali
• Shi'a view of Muawiyah I
• Shi'a view of Umar
• Shi'a view of the meeting at Saqifah
• Shi'a view of the Sahaba

I think there are some more, those are only the ones that Striver listed in one of the afds. If you want go ahead and afd them, but I am not going to. You have to understand, that there is a group of people that surround this user and protect his "contributions" by systematically voting keep on his afds (many times resulting in no consensus keeps). It really gets quite annoying, I have been attacked by his "followers", he even launched an rfc against me. Doesn't matter what he does, even listing afds to articles solely to make a point (as I mention in my response in that rfc) they just defend him and it works, really discourages me from continuing to contribute to the project.--Jersey Devil 05:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC)