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Regarding your comments , I would like to invite you to consider RFCC as an alternative. <span style="background:black;color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''''—&nbsp;''''']&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 02:34, 25 February 2013 (UTC) Regarding your comments , I would like to invite you to consider RFCC as an alternative. <span style="background:black;color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''''—&nbsp;''''']&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 02:34, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
:No, but it might be worth taking to RFAR. ]] 02:52, 25 February 2013 (UTC) :No, but it might be worth taking to RFAR. ]] 02:52, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
::Arbitration of this nature isn't much more than a polite way of forcing specialized contributors into semi- or full retirement; it shouldn't ever be on the table unless all other options have been exhausted, and they clearly haven't been in this case. <span style="background:black;color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''''—&nbsp;''''']&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 06:18, 25 February 2013 (UTC) ::Arbitration isn't much more than polite way of forcing specialized contributors into semi- or full retirement; it shouldn't ever be on the table unless all other options have been exhausted, and they haven't been here. <span style="background:black;color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''''—&nbsp;''''']&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 06:18, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
:::I'm not opening four different Rfc's on editors whose responses to an uninvolved admin warning them was either insults or in one case, asking that I be desysopped. It would be an excercise in futility. An Rfc presumes they care what people say; they clearly don't. I '''have''', however, taken it to RFAR; it is at ] if you wish to make a statement. ]] 06:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC) :::I'm not opening four different Rfc's on editors whose responses to an uninvolved admin warning them was either insults or in one case, asking that I be desysopped. It would be an excercise in futility. An Rfc presumes they care what people say; they clearly don't. I '''have''', however, taken it to RFAR; it is at ] if you wish to make a statement. ]] 06:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

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RfA: thank you for your support

KC, thanks for your strong expression of support during my recent RfA. It meant a lot coming from an established editor like yourself. Regards, Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 11:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

You are welcome; be sure to read the Nuetral and Oppose views carefully, and learn from them. Whether you decide to try again in the future or not, improving oneself is always a good thing. KillerChihuahua 20:37, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Response to note about Abortion and Mental Health

Hi, My edits were made after reading the actual statements made by the Associations in question. I was not attempting to convey my own opinions,within the article, but merely repeated what the APA actually said. The statements of the APA, the same words I referred to when making my edits, were not according to my own beliefs on the matter, (which I do not care to discuss on Wilkipedia) and I made the edits with a view to increasing factual detail and accuracy. These are the actual words of the 2008 Executive Summary of the APA's findings "In considering the psychological implications of abortion, the TFMHA recognized that abortion encompasses a diversity of experiences. Women obtain abortions for different reasons; at different times of gestation; via differing medical procedures; and within different personal, social, economic, and cultural contexts. All of these may lead to variability in women’s psychological reactions following abortion. Consequently, global statements about the psychological impact of abortion on women can be misleading." retrieved from http://www.apa.org/pi/women/programs/abortion/executive-summary.pdf

I do appreciate your message, and your request for discussion and know we have a shared goal of keeping Wilkepedia accurate.Rivka3 (talk) 22:11, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
I didn't leave you a message, unless you are a sock of User:Ste11aeres (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). KillerChihuahua 22:26, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Apology, explanation of non-malicious intent, and description of resolve not to repeat offenses

I did have two accounts. I had set up one, then later, another with a name I preferred, but with no malicious intentions. The purpose was not ever that one account would manufacture support for the other. I was not doing it to provide support for one account under another account name. The posting on the talk page using the other user name was by accident (as you can see by the use of first person pronouns in that comment) My purposes were not any of the ones listed as "innappropriate uses of alternative accounts." The appearance of such a misuse was an accident, where I believed I was writing under the appropriate account, but was accidently signed in under the other. My wish to maintain honesty was shown by the fact that after I realised I was signed in on the otehr account, I exited and signed in under the other to sign the post with the actual more honest name. The whole thing was a mistake, but I truly did not do it with bad intentions.

It should have been obvious that if I created a second account this could easily happen. I should have thought it through.

I offer sincere apologies and emphasize that I will not repeat anything like this in the future.

I do wish to add that the edits about the American Psychological Association, and the UK Royal College were in order to correct the factual innaccuracy that was and is present on those pages. If you would folllow the links I had read, and read the actual statements by those two organizations, you would see that is the case. This is not ideology, this is about the accurate description of what those two associations actually said. The APA said that there are so many different experiences, that a global statement may be misleading. http://www.apa.org/pi/women/programs/abortion/mental-health.pdf The Royal College explicitly said that the data is inconclusive. http://www.nccmh.org.uk/publications_SR_abortion_in_MH.html The current paragraphs on Wilkipedia are innaccurate. I trust, that you are a person of integrity who will take the time to go to the actual statements and reports by those two organizations and see that is the case. I hope that someone other than me will edit the page for greater acuracy. Rivka3 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:59, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Look, you socked, then you lied about it. I sincerely do hope you don't do it again; but if you do someone is likely to block not only this account but all your accounts. Have one account and be done. And don't lie; next time there is a question people will be far less likely to believe you. Puppy has spoken. KillerChihuahua 20:56, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

R&I article

As you note the article is subject to discretionary sanctions, you should consider your own conduct in this matter. You have made just as many reverts as Black, but have contributed much less to the talk page discussion. Many of these reverts have involved extensive deletions. In addition, you have contributed to the excessive personalization of the dispute in several ways. Try to keep the discussion on the content. You should also avoid further reverts and deletions without discussion since it makes it difficult to discuss every change when you are making them so rapidly.--The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 01:30, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure you're counting correctly. I'm certain I'm considering my edits. I'm not sure why you are posting on my page about keeping the discussion on content, as it was Guettarda who began the discussion about behavior. KillerChihuahua 02:10, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Here: . It does seem you have not made as many reverts. Black's recent revert means he now has one more revert than you. However, I wouldn't consider five massive reverts instead of six to be any big mark in your favor. Particularly when some of your reverts involve multiple deletions over several edits. As to why I am not leaving a comment on Guettarda's page, you have made several edits and comments beyond just that talk page section that are of concern. Plus, it is not explicitly forbidden to create talk page sections to discuss the conduct of other editors rather than content, though I would say it is generally frowned upon.--The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 03:04, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Well, I'm not interested in taking a straw poll to determine what percentage of editors think such discussions should be frowned upon, prohibited, or ok under certain circumstances, or ok under all circumstances. I seriously doubt it would be worth the trouble. That said, it still puzzles me why you're talking to me about it, since I didn't start it. I don't think you should bother anyone about it, actually, but as long as you are, I don't see why you chose to post here instead of on the usertalk page of the person who actually did start that section. You already know from my talk page comments that I don't see any serious issue with it, so you can hardly be expecting me to go talk to him about it. Your approach is confusing to me, and seems rather pointless. Regarding the edits, they were not all reverts, although BH's were. Now, I think we've said about all that can be usefully said on the subject. KillerChihuahua 03:15, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

SuzanneOlsson

A couple of weeks ago you blocked SuzanneOlsson (talk · contribs) for a week. Since returning she has continued her poor behaviour, including badgering and insulting other editors on talk pages. Perhaps you could take a look at her recent edit history and see if another block is appropriate, or whether we should consider taking her to ANI for a proposed topic ban. Thanks. --Biker Biker (talk) 03:30, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Topic ban; editor is too close to the subject to edit neutrally, having written a book about it and having a website devoted to it, and continuing to promote a fringe POV unaccepted by serious historians, combined with personal attacks on editors who have tried to explain policy, specifically NOR, FRINGE, UNDUE, RS and V. Please feel free to quote me and link to this edit on ANI, I'm going to bed and won't be available to comment there. KillerChihuahua 03:56, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

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I doubt you've seen this SPI about us

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/KillerChihuahua. Dougweller (talk) 10:04, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

BlackHades managed to find an old failed proposal that said accusations of meatpuppetry should be made at SPI, but then devoted the whole thing to me. Now rev/del'd by another Admin. Dougweller (talk) 11:16, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Why on earth did they rev/del??? Also, pity I missed this. This is what happens when I take the weekend off, darnit. I miss the really weird and fun stuff. KillerChihuahua 00:34, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, could you help investigate a potential behavioral issue?

Hi, Killer. I have been accused of tendentious editing at Tea Party Movement. I was wondering if you would mind taking a look at my edits and telling me if I am in violation of Misplaced Pages behavioral policies. Thanks. — goethean 21:53, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Ack, not tonight (EST) but I can in the morning. KillerChihuahua 00:36, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
What a mess! Of course, the TPM article is a contentious article, and although I have considerable experience on contentious articles I don't think I have ever edited the TPM one. To which I'm inclined at this moment to add, Thank Goodness. It appears to me the charges against you spring more from the frustration the other editor feels over a content dispute than from any actual tendentious edits on your part. IMO, it is best for you to ignore the allegations and proceed with trying to discuss content. Then again, I'm the last person to block anyone for incivility and I rarely even bother if it is serious personal attacks; if the attacks are against me I don't recall ever blocking, or reporting. I find confronting this kind of hostility is difficult to do without escalating the situation. If the situation deteriorates, you may wish to ask another uninvolved admin for a second opinion. As a side note, I noticed a key bit of the content debate was whether to utilize content about something which did not mention the TPM. If a source can be found which ties the event to the TPM, it can be used in the article. Otherwise, it is OR and/or SYNTH to so use it, however "obvious" it may be to the editors of the article.
You may wish to try a one line statement such as "I reject your allegations, and prefer to keep the topic here on content." and then be done, no matter how much more is said. If you wish, I will attempt a discussion with the other party regarding this. Let me know. KillerChihuahua 16:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I would appreciate your help. — goethean 16:21, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I'll see what I can do. KillerChihuahua 16:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Well, I tried, but it seems that although he has no compunction about posting paragraphs of vague accusations, including three posts to write and copyedit his reply to me, he can't be arsed to post even one diff, so I advised him to cease with the unsupported accusations. Let me (or another uninvolved admin) know if he starts it up again. KillerChihuahua 20:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your help. — goethean 20:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome; I hope my efforts were helpful. KillerChihuahua 20:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Notifications That You've Received a Message, if Not Written on *Your* Talk Page

Hey, you "angry barking puppy,"

You recently put a notice on my talk page. I wanted to ask you here why it supposedly had to be you posting that, instead of just the supposed admin. who had already been talking to me. When and why did it supposedly become "your business"?

(But the one thing I'm grateful for about that is that the warning was present, rather than just taking action without one. So for that one thing, thanks.)

But then I saw that you wanted us to post replies to the place where the original message was posted. Well, obviously you get a notification that someone has put a message on your talk page, and I get a notification that someone has put one on my page. But how would you get a notification that someone has responded to something you wrote on my page? You wouldn't just keep checking it and checking it every day for a long time, even if some time went without seeing a response there, would you? So that's my concern about keeping the messages lined up on the same page. Yes, it's definitely easier to follow. But the notification system isn't very good. Right? What's your remedy for that, and how do I get it too?

MaxxFordham (talk) 05:26, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

  1. If I see it, it's my business. I'm an admin.
  2. I watch your page. Learn how at Help:Watching pages KillerChihuahua 13:19, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

going back to the original ...

"Meatpuppet" thing. Does this mean we can now refer to you as "Mrs. Weller"? baahaahaa. <Newspaper across the rump, and puppy-Ched yelps and looks for a table to hide under> — Ched :  ?  14:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Wow, you just insulted me, my r/l husband, Doug, and hen-pecked husbands everywhere. Oh wait... do you speak from experience? There, there.... just because you're whipped doesn't mean you aren't valued. KillerChihuahua 14:11, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
;-D ... Wait. You're r/l husband's name is Doug too? OH MY - I do so love irony in life. Actually I did marry very young, but divorced in the late 70s. I've come close to a second try a couple times over the years, but it just never seemed work out. I would like the chance to be a hen-pecked good husband again, but with each passing year I figure it's less likely to happen. Personally I very much admire a strong and intelligent woman (must also have a great sense of humor; given my twisted way of thinking), so being "whipped" wouldn't really be a problem. (I have selective hearing issues anyway .. lol) Anyway - please convey to Mr. Chihuahua that I meant no offense. Have a good one KC. Cheers and "woof" — Ched :  ?  14:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
No, you turkey, you insulted my r/l husband and Doug, not my r/l husband Doug. :-P Sorry your attempt to become hen-pecked didn't work out for you. :-( Mr.Chihuahua doesn't do Misplaced Pages, so he'll never even know you insulted him AND called him "Doug". So all is well. KillerChihuahua 15:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
I did a double-take on "your husband Doug" as well...which was especially puzzling, since I know someone who claims to be your r/l husband, and his name's not Doug :) Guettarda (talk) 15:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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SuzanneOlson

Hi, the close clearly states "article edits" i.e. talk pages are OK. If they become disruptive then we can re-raise at ANI and look to spread the topic ban further. Regards, GiantSnowman 20:37, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Excellent, that's how I read it, and that's what I said on her talk page. Just wanted to verify. Thanks - KillerChihuahua 20:42, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Nado158

Dear Killer, please wait. Please see also my opinion (and please read my all my comments above and check it). I think that I not deserve such hard punishment. Regards--Nado158 (talk) 14:30, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

  1. I've read all your comments.
  2. You should keep your discussion about this on WP:AE and not here.
  3. This isn't about "punishing" you; it is about protecting the encyclopedia.

KillerChihuahua 14:33, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

AE Nado158

With regard to the exact parameters of the proposed topic ban, please see my comment at User talk:DeltaQuad#AE Nado158. --Joy (talk) 15:07, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

The parameters are already set by ARBMAC; The disputes presented in this case, while focusing specifically on issues related to Macedonia, are part of a broader set of conflicts prevalent over the entire range of articles concerning the Balkans; see, for example, the Dalmatia case and the Kosovo case. Many of these conflicts are grounded in matters external to Misplaced Pages, including long-standing historical, national, and ethnic disputes in the region. The area of conflict in this case shall therefore be considered to be the entire set of Balkan-related articles, broadly interpreted. - Kosovo includes The locus of the dispute is Kosovo and closely related articles, chiefly regarding the characterization of its constitutional status and relationship to Serbia. - and it is, as you can see, very broad. We can probably specify when we close, I usually do, but then I'm not sure I'll be the one who closes. KillerChihuahua 15:46, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
OK, if you mean the entire topic area, that's fine. DeltaQuad mentioned just one particular part, and when you replied to them, you didn't discuss that bit. --Joy (talk) 17:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
We generally tack on the words "broadly construed" when topic banning, and we construe fairly broadly. Back in Oct 2011 I advised an editor who asked for clarification on a Troubles topic ban "You joked about bird articles in the AE case; I tell you now, if you change a category on a bird article from Birds of England to Birds of Ireland, I'm not at all sure it wouldn't be covered. You need to edit something that has nothing to do with Ireland or the Troubles in any conceivable way." You can also read archives of AE to see how it is applied. KillerChihuahua 18:00, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Hmm. Does this wording then mean they're prevented from writing about e.g. Serbian football clubs? That would seem excessive. IOW we've gone from too narrow to too broad. --Joy (talk) 22:45, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it does. They cannot write about anything Serbian, whether football clubs or terrorists or history or anything else. That is what a broadly construed topic ban is. They are free to write about other things. Very little of Misplaced Pages is Serbian and Kosovo related. Hit "random article" a few dozen times, and I'll be surprised if you hit a single article which is covered under the topic ban. KillerChihuahua 22:58, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
I know that we have the ArbCom rulings to cover it, but the point I was trying to make is that including the whole topic area seems excessive for one article in the topic area when there are articles in that area that the user can contribute to properly. I was looking for something a little smaller than all of Serbia topic ban, because I didn't see enough to feel that the whole topic area ban was justified. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 02:13, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Ditto. --Joy (talk) 10:27, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I disagree, obviously. Here is the issue (and I speak as someone who has been at AE quite a bit): If we do not outline a broadly construed topic area, then the editors often skirt the fringes, still repeating the behavior which led to the topic ban. Let's look at sports, for example. How easy would it be to slip in an ethnic slur, or bias, such as we saw in the AE evidence? No, we make it broad for a very good reason. This is standard practice. If he does well and learns to keep his personal bias out of articles, and not misuse sources, he'll come back to editing this topic area with the knowledge he needs to avoid further sanctions. This generally does not happen in topic areas which the editor has shown he has very strong personal views about, which he has not kept out of his editing. He can learn this in topic areas which have nothing to do with the problem topic area much better. If he merely chooses articles from Category:Articles needing cleanup, he can edit ten hours a day and still have work to do before the year is out. He can edit. But in my experience, allowing leeway leads to troubles. I prefer to avoid that. KillerChihuahua 20:46, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
May I edit at least sport articles please?Thank you--Nado158 (talk) 20:08, 23 February 2013 (UTC)--Nado158 (talk) 19:23, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Not Serbian/Albanian/Kosovo, no. You can edit other sports articles, but not if any of the players are from the restricted topic area, and not if the article touches on the topic area in any way. KillerChihuahua 20:46, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Please, i wrote about 98% Serbian sport, especially about football, but also basketball etc., I never had a problem with nobody. I improved a lot of articles, wrote about players and stadiums etc. I create also a lot of articles about sport. I get even a barn star. You can all see this on my Misplaced Pages edit history etc. Please allow me to write about Serbian sports. This have nothing to do with politics and is not a controvers topics. I'm only come because of sports to wikipedia, only the last months I am moved a little bit to other topics. But my main topic, my beloved topic is sport, this is a topic which interrested me 120%. Please allow me to write about sports in Serbia, why so a hard punishment. I made mistakes in politic topics, but I never hat a problem with sports. You banned me because of my mistakes about controvers politic topics, but why i banned also for sport, although i never made mistakes there and although I was never prosecuted there?I think its right to punish for things who someone done wrong, but I never made mistakes there and i was never prosecuted there. Please allow me to write about sports in Serbia.--Nado158 (talk) 21:11, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I have no other interest area here and I had to wait a year to get back to improve Serbian sporting articles or update.--Nado158 (talk) 21:15, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
You probably should have thought about that before you transgressed our policies so seriously and ended up at AE. Sports can be very controversial, especially if ethnic slurs or source misuse is involved. Tell you what: Pick any two redlinks (nothing which violates your topic ban) from User:West.andrew.g/Popular redlinks and write articles on the subjects. I expect actual articles, not stubs. Then come back and see me in two months, and we'll discuss it again. KillerChihuahua 21:20, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

By all my respect, but I have not done with deliberate errors. I was not aware of the consequences of my error. Others get a warning or a ban on certain topics, and I get a ban on everything. That's not fair. In any civil legal system you will be punished for what you have really done and here? There was never porbleme on Misplaced Pages relating to sports, or business, agriculture, Serbian food or brands, nature etc. I've created stadium sites, player dates updated (goals, transfers, etc.), updated data, where is this controversy? I understand what you mean, but I do not edit the Albanian League or sports. Why do all my work will not be considered positive? Why all this is overlooked? I can not at all in conflict with Albania, because it has nothing to do with Serbian Sports. There is no Serbian-Albanian Football League, etc. Why is it bad if I edit about a Serbian dog, or football data (statistics), or write about a food stamp, or national parks in Serbia? about nature. This is absolutely not about those things for which I was punished. What's bad about it when I add Nemanja Vidić as a remarkable person in Užice because he was born there? Look please here i create for example this small article about Metalac Stadium, improved and create 80% of the Partizan Belgrade article till the section Club records, improved every article about almost evry club and their stadiums in the first and second league (you can ask the users there). I create a article about the Mlekara Subotica dairy. Here, nothing is bad KillerChihuahua. Please, Serbian sport, agriculture, Serbian food or brands, nature etc. have nothing to do with controversial topics with Albania etc. Please allow me, if anything were to arise, I would not take to it and report it to you immediately if you wish, but it will not happen because I think Nature etc. is not controversial. Topics like Organization for Respect and Care for Animals (which is from Serbia), Serbian Spruce, or the dog Šarplaninac and stadiums are not controversial. Please i have good faith intentions. Besied this, what you mean with not stubs? Thank you!--Nado158 (talk) 12:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

The reason we make topic bans broad rather than narrow is so you don't misjudge the boundaries and violate it. The way it is now: You can edit anything which has nothing to do with Serbia, Albania, Kosovo. Simple. Not confusing. Now, you can keep leaving long posts here about how good you'll be if I'll just let you write about Serbian football, or you can take my offer above, or you can wait out the 12 months, or you can go back to AE and contest the topic ban. KillerChihuahua 13:45, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

KC, I'd like to appeal to you once again to take two factors into account: we already have one Serbian user, User:FkpCascais, who was topic-banned similarly, but after several incidents (three previous smaller blocks over several years), and for only six months rather than a year. I agree that it's easy for them to cross the line, and indeed I was personally involved in a situation where FkpCascais at one point did exactly that, but User:WGFinley was still patient with them and I think the topic-banned user did not transgress further. As I recall, Nado158's behavior was not worse than FkpCascais', so I think it would be best to follow the same standard and at least make the two sanctions match, in order to avoid the impression he's getting treated in a manner that is less fair than someone else in a similar situation. --Joy (talk) 18:42, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

First you're worried it's too narrow, no you're complaining it's too broad. Well, you can't please everybody; there is no sweet spot which will satisfy everyone's idea of an appropriate sanction. There are always people who think you are too hard or too soft. I have a proposal above which will shorten the time by as much as 10 months, to only two months, but both you and he are ignoring that offer. I'm all done talking about this. Puppy has spoken, puppy is done. KillerChihuahua 18:48, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
The scope was narrow; the duration is twice as long as FC. --Joy (talk) 21:48, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
What is "FC"? And what scope was narrow? I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. KillerChihuahua 21:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I did not ignore the offer, but sorry, I didn't quite understand it, so I asked before what you mean with your statement ACTUAL ARTICLE, NOT STUBS? STUBS? Thank you!--Nado158 (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Apologies, I must have missed that question. I mean, more than a couple of sentences and one source. I'm flexible, but I want to see some content, say a couple of paragraphs, several sources, an image would be nice. I'm looking for a serious effort from you to write an article, as opposed to slapping up a short description of the topic. You can read more at Misplaced Pages:Stub - it is an excellent way to start an article, but I'm saying I want to see more. Let me know if you're still unclear. KillerChihuahua 20:06, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

No problem. All right, I agree with your proposal. Thank you!--Nado158 (talk) 21:38, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Excellent, please keep me informed (tell me when you've picked your articles, etc.) KillerChihuahua 21:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Re:Your recent edits

I already left a message to Bishonen, asking if the correct word was the one Bishonen applied, Bishonen said yes. The problem is solved. (Slurpy121 (talk) 18:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC))

No, the problem is not solved unless you actually read ENGVAR and cease edit warring over UK.US spelling differences. It is not just about that one single word which Bishonen had already told you several times was correct. It is about not edit warring and violating ENGVAR. If you understand that, then yes it is "solved". If you think it's about that one single edit war, then no, it is not solved. KillerChihuahua 20:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I read ENGVAR, the problem is solved. (Slurpy121 (talk) 22:34, 23 February 2013 (UTC))
And as I've already said, that is only half the issue. Did you also read WP:EW? KillerChihuahua 22:39, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes I did ;). (Slurpy121 (talk) 23:25, 23 February 2013 (UTC))
Excellent. Now I consider it "solved". :-) KillerChihuahua 23:28, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I took the edit you removed as more or less just a friendly gesture. I didn't think anything more of it than I would a smiley or other neutrally friendly note. KillerChihuahua 03:32, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Aw, Thank You >.< (Slurpy121 (talk) 20:42, 24 February 2013 (UTC))

You must claim this

  little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer  04:46, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

You mean register it? Might not be a bad idea, as it is apparently a doppelganger. KillerChihuahua 04:52, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
And a cute one too  little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer  04:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Done. A very good idea. KillerChinchilla (talk) 04:58, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
I tagged the new account for you.  little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer  05:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
And we just cross posted, heh. KillerChihuahua 05:31, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

What about this? A bit of a tautology, perhaps. Bishonen | talk 21:00, 24 February 2013 (UTC).

Well, if we don't have a KillerChinchilla, we certainly need one. Mangoe (talk) 23:04, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

RFCC

Regarding your comments here, I would like to invite you to consider RFCC as an alternative.   — C M B J   02:34, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

No, but it might be worth taking to RFAR. KillerChihuahua 02:52, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Arbitration isn't much more than polite way of forcing specialized contributors into semi- or full retirement; it shouldn't ever be on the table unless all other options have been exhausted, and they haven't been here.   — C M B J   06:18, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm not opening four different Rfc's on editors whose responses to an uninvolved admin warning them was either insults or in one case, asking that I be desysopped. It would be an excercise in futility. An Rfc presumes they care what people say; they clearly don't. I have, however, taken it to RFAR; it is at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests#Tea Party movement / US politics if you wish to make a statement. KillerChihuahua 06:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)