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Social Justice

Hello,

I think it is VITAL to add the picture of the person who coined the term Social justice. I am aware that the picture is low res, but as it is an old picture and there isn't any other option. I feel it is important. I mean it is common sense to add the picture of the person who coined the term 'Social Justice'. Also, I do not see how 'social justice' is part of a series on progressive politics. All the founders of social justice were either apolitical or conservative. 3abos (talk) 03:01, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

please see talk page to discuss whether social justice is "progressive". I have also re-added the picture of Fr. Luigi Taparelli as he is the person who coined the term "social justice". 3abos (talk) 03:05, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the image, I've moved it down the page a little.

Please see my comment at Talk:Social justice#Progressive? concerning your second point. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 03:10, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Would it not be wiser to have it at the top? I mean which is more important. The founder of the term 'Social Justice' as a low-res image. Or a picture of an unkown woman from a recent event (occupy)? 3abos (talk) 03:15, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion, a recent picture that illustrates what most people think of when they hear "social justice" is better than a postage-stamp-sized picture of the largely unknown man who coined the term. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 03:18, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

My issue here is, how do you know this is what most people think? I don't believe for one second that most people believe what the woman in the picture believes. Also, the occupy movement started from the tea-party protests. A reactionary conservative group. I think it is best to add the picture of a reknown scholar than an unkown woman. 3abos (talk) 03:21, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Huh? The Occupy movement started from the Tea Party protests? — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 03:24, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Nooo, I'm pretty sure it didn't, actually, but was rather a part of a broader movement including the Arab spring. I say that as someone who as peripherally active in the occupy movement for at least a while, and I can remember very few if any individuals associated with it anywhere who were even particularly sympathetic with the Tea Party, let alone supporters of it. Also, I have to agree with Malik that we are probably better off indicating with the first image on the article something which indicates to the reader something which helps "define" the article's topic to the reader. In general, some sort of image which relates to how the term "social justice" is used today would probably do that better. Granted, any individual image, like that of the occupier, can be called into question, but that image also includes not only the woman, but images of the various signs which also indicate various concepts relevant to social justice. Personally, I think the lead could be rewritten a little, with maybe a first section of the article on "Term," "Definition," or something of that sort, which could reasonably include the Taparelli image. But that is a different matter entirely. John Carter (talk) 17:07, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

The Occupy movement had nothing to do with the Tea Party Movement, or the Arab Spring, for that matter. It arose solely as a reaction to corruption on Wall St. The Occupy movement was a true grass-roots movement, not corporate funded AstroTurf. A comparison of the demographic of the Occupy Movement to that of the TPM would indicate that the "social justice" contingent is pro tax (vis-a-vis the wealthy), and liberal on social issues. Obviously that is diametrically opposed to the TPM ethos.--Ubikwit (talk) 17:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

That jibes with what I remember as well. I'm not sure where 3abos is getting her/his facts. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 02:41, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

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Source

Would you please keep an eye on User:Afaprof01. He doesn't seem to grap that we shouldn't use primary sources. Cheers. Pass a Method talk 16:15, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll try to keep an eye on Afaprof01's edits. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 01:36, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

aaron lopez trades slaves.

if somebody was involved in the slave trade, that is major information. aaron lopez was involved in the slave trade, and you dont want in mentioned in the lead. instead you want it to say he was a philantropist.

you call the trading of slaves a commercial venture. so we know were your heart is at.