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TruthSeeker1234 has written about you

Tom Harrison, you are mentioned several times in my article about my experience here. I accuse you of vandalism. Journalistic responsibility requires that I give you an opportunity to respond, should you choose to do so.

TruthSeeker1234 05:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Giovanni. Freethinker, TruthSeeker...Can't keep socks straight...Apologies G33...My head hurts.Timothy Usher 06:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Heh; this is a whole other issue, related to 9/11 conspiracy theories, nothing to do with Giovanni33. Tom Harrison 13:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

TruthSeeker1234, It was a good joke. --Aminz 00:57, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Re Wisdom

Yes, I shall take a look, though I've been pretty busy today.

One problem we're having on these other pages, besides the issue of translation, is that an editor has opinions about the way passages should read far stronger than his command of the language.

Thanks again for protecting my talk page from vandalism. It is obvious now he is not an impersonator, as I'd wondered the other night. The relevant e-mail address is abuse@rutgers.edu - I'm curious as to whether WP policy allows me to take action on my own.Timothy Usher 03:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Timothy blocked

Hi, Tom, Timothy Usher has been blocked on what appears to be a rather flimsy pretext. Can you look into the matter? He has requested an unblock. Thanks, Pecher 21:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I've asked Cyde. Do you find him to be sufficiently uninvolved? Pecher 21:58, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Impersonators

Now we've got User:Timothy Usherr, blocked by Pepsidrinka, and User:T Usher, who claimed to be me on User talk:Sean Black.

Good thing I set up those Doppelgangers, huh?Timothy Usher 21:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I've corrected my spelling of one of the usernames above. AnnH has already blocked him.Timothy Usher 22:13, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

9/11

I read the foot notes for the 9/11 article, but what is wrong with using the word colloquially, seeing as thats how 9/11 and september 11th are referred, in a manner of speech. Such as "often referred colloquially as 9/11 or September 11th". If anything, it enhances the readers understanding of the terms and their useage.--Gephart 22:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Any particular reason...

...you reverted me on WP:AbRep? 68.39.174.238 19:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Ahh crap! I didn't even see that! Thanx anyway dude... 68.39.174.238 21:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Edit War is a' brewin on 9/11 conspiracy theories

Pokipsy 76 is working himself up into a frenzy over the statement he added into the intro. Right now he is up to three reverts on the same section.

We had an interesting talk on his user page:

Pokipsy, the consensus was against you on this one. Plus you are getting dangerously close to vioalating the The three revert rule.--DCAnderson 20:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The objections were only yours and that of bill. Bill completely misunderstood my edit ("You just wanted to show that some people disagree with the mainstream criticism of the conspiracy" he said) I explained he was wrong and he didn't object my explanation. Moreover your objection was just a sort of "preference" (you liked it best before, you find the addition is not "needed"), it is not a substantial objection. It is very little to say that "the consensus is against me". However thank you for making me notice the The three revert rule.--Pokipsy76 20:50, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

From looking at the history of people who reverted it, Tom Harrison was against it too. And nobody seemed to have supported it, except you.--DCAnderson 20:57, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Tom Harrison didn't give any motivation for his revert, it was pure vandalism.--Pokipsy76 21:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

So apparently you're a vandal now. Please step in before this gets out of control--DCAnderson 21:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

On Pokipsy 76's user page he said

"Please don't write in my tak page again. Thank you.--Pokipsy76 21:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)"

Would it be wrong of me to reply with, "Why?"--DCAnderson 21:55, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

It would be amusing, but probably unhelpful. The way things are going someone is going to be posting to his talk page real soon now. Hopefully he'll stop his incivility and personal attacks before it comes to that. Tom Harrison 21:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I figured I should say something here. From what I can see, Pokipsy has tried to be constructive and I think his editing was conducted in a proper manner, at least as far as he understands it so far. I have seen far worse behaviour from some administrators. He thinks that he is being ganged up on by POV pushers and I don't blame him, especially if he is new and his edits and comments are met with such ridicule. Someone will be posting to his talk page real soon? I bet! It's getting harder and harder to assume good faith. SkeenaR 00:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I reply on your page. Tom Harrison 00:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Is that the same guy Jayjg was blocking who just wrote about the debris field? SkeenaR 04:35, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Dhimmi

Dhimmi is under attack from anonymous sockpuppets who collectively are well over 3RR.Timothy Usher 19:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

crossbow

need some help to make this article correct again. it has been vandalized, just for the claim that the crossbow was invented in China. well, I have a different opinion, I showed many reasons and there is none with a logical argumentation against it. unfortunartely this user either remade technical errors and deleted historic bonus material, sources, external links, etc. I hate such people.

moves

Yes I know. I hope it isn't moved again. RM was where people should have went in the first place. --a.n.o.n.y.m 21:41, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Smiley Template

Copy/Pasting Mystic's message:

After some thought I decided to create this smiley template, as I thought most of the arguments in the talk pages are due to misinterpretaion of what is being said, hopefully these smileys will help us (at least me !!) communicate in a much more friendly manner. Hope you all will like it.

• {{smiley|1}} will produce (Friendly smile)
• {{smiley|2}} will produce (Confident)
• {{smiley|3}} will produce (Mocking)
• {{smiley|4}} will produce (Hysterical)
• {{smiley|5}} will produce (Hurt)
• {{smiley|6}} will produce (Very Sorry)
• {{smiley|7}} will produce (Sleepy)
• {{smiley|8}} will produce (You are Nive)
• {{smiley|9}} will produce (I am not happy)
• {{smiley|0}} will produce (No Comments)

 «₪Mÿš†íc₪»  20:15, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

--Aminz 04:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Operation Northwoods re: proven conspiracy theories

If you look through the documents the possibility of flying an airplane into a sky scraper was mentioned explicitly. Please don't make reverts without at least explaining the reason why - this is not vandalism and it is very pertinent information.Sukiari 02:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Can you please look into this

Hi Tom,

Can you please have a look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Najis&diff=52372278&oldid=52283450

This comment, as I understand, only aims to humiliate me rather than providing any information. Please have a look at the history of this article. I asked Pecher over and over to respond to my comments on the talk page and finally he made the above comment.

Also, please have a look at the relevant talk at http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Najis#Last_changes Please have a look at the dates of the posts.

The issue started by my edit at http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Najis&diff=51797236&oldid=51788882

Can you please look into it. Thanks,

--Aminz 05:13, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Tom, Can you please also look into this: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Rules_of_war_in_Islam&diff=prev&oldid=53199313

Also, Pecher has not explained yet what I need to learn according to his comment ( http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Najis&diff=52372278&oldid=52283450 )

Can you please ask him to let me know what I should learn about my religon.

Thanks very much --Aminz 20:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Jibril

Hi Tom,

The merge template has been on Jibril for several weeks now. All the editors who've shown up support the merger. It is an exact duplicate of the text found in the main article Gabriel. However, I'd been threatened by Anonymous editor on the basis of policies he wouldn't specify that I'd be blocked if I redirected it again. Is there any basis for this, or can I redirect it again?Timothy Usher 05:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Geelong Grammar School

Dear Mr Harrison

I the Editor in Chief of the Geelong Grammar School Newspaper. It has come to my attention that you and some other administrators have rejected amendments to articles written by Students of this school with Citation to material that I publish. I would like to clarify that none of the material in the Geelong Grammar School Newletter "The Window" is copyrighted material. All of our material in The Window is public domain and may be freely quoted and cited anyone. If you wish for further information, you can contact the school by phone or email. I understand the "if in doubt throw it out" approach taken by Misplaced Pages Admin as proper caution. Since this issue has been addressed, I hope that a freer flow of information will result, improving the services that Misplaced Pages Provides.

Regards Paul Lim

Editor in Chief The Window VERITAS VINCIT—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.19.252.190 (talk • contribs) .

My concern is not copyright, though other editors have mentioned it. The changes have not been, in general, improvements to the encyclopedia, and I am not convinced they were meant to be. Tom Harrison 12:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear Mr Harrison

Thank you for clairfying the issue. Could you kindly ensure where you can however, that copyright is no longer brought up as an issue by other administrators who do not have a familiarity with the nature of my publication

Regards Paul Lim—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.19.252.190 (talk • contribs) .

Help me!

Hello! I'm a Persian Wikipedian and I wanna build a robot, but I like to build a one in English Misplaced Pages. So Can you help to make a bot step by step??? Thanks a lot! --MehranVB 16:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Another annoying request

Hi Tom (and sorry off the top that you're the admin I bug for things). I've been involved in two sort-of flame exchanges on our Anti-Americanism page. Well, OK, so goes the Wiki. But curiously tonight, the two showed up in minutes of each other despite the fact that neither are very active and one seems to edit only every two days. I really don't know how any of this works, but could you see as best you're able that User:Rkrichbaum and User:Christinam are not the same person? Perhaps they aren't and I had the bad luck of getting two "annoyed with me" people on at the same time. Also, horrible as it sounds, I'm going to keep reverting them on Anti-Americanism until they explain to me why we need to ditch an intro that has been standing for months. Maybe it should be locked. Obviously, I want it locked at the old version (that I like), but I think a disinterested look is in order. Apologies again for bothering, Marskell 22:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, help please now if you could. I just took the time to start a new section to incorporate the editors points as a compromise and got reverted completely. She won't address me directly, so I don't know what to do. Marskell 08:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Tom. You'll notice I've gone a little batshit on the talk page :( but today was very frustrating: I was literally right in the middle of inserting her points. I did indeed but the Guantanamo pic back in and I haven't dropped any point she's made, just moved it to a "modern" section. I think it might be worth raising a talk point on WP:LEAD making "summation in lead, details in body" as explicit as possible. Marskell 13:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Tfine80 has started an RfC: Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Christinam. This may be weilding a big stick too soon, but this editor is very very stubborn and if you look at her editing pattern she's obviousl single-issue, POV editor. She's reverted six times in a day and half and most frustratingly she doesn't seem to recognize that keeping her info was an attempt to compromise. Anyhow, I see your "busy in real life", just thought I'd point out the RfC. Marskell 08:52, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the clean up Tom. Sophia 13:47, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Warnings for Editing Pages

I would like to inform that Misplaced Pages staff that users from are school all share the same IP Address. Everycomputer uses 151.199.193.49 as there IP Address. So you can't really block the trouble makers, without blocking everybody.

So I don't know how else to tell you and stuff, it could be one of million students screwing around with a page and stuff. Sorry that people have to act this way... but its the same 151.199.193.49 not just 1 person!

Thanks.

Natural Hygiene Walled Garden

I've been trying to do something about this page, because it is full of a lot of unverified claims and seems to be a POV fork off of Naturopathy. From what I've been able to gather, the only thing really keeping it from changing is that no one knows the page exists.--DCAnderson 17:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I dunno man, those Natural Hygiene guys seem pretty hardcore.--DCAnderson 04:15, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Here's another crappy page that pretty much needs to be deleted:

Nick Berg conspiracy theories--DCAnderson 22:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, you did a good job cleaning that one up.

Have a:

I have a feeling that once that article realy gets pruned, it could probably be replaced with a sentence and a couple of links in the main NickBerg article.--DCAnderson 23:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Can you please block me

Tom, I can not study because of wikipedia. I am addicted. Can you please do me a favor by blocking me for five days. Thanks --Aminz 01:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I am unblocked now. THANKS Again! --Aminz 02:16, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/KDRGibby

I've had a change of opinion on this. Because of Gibby's relentless incivility and personal attacks on other editors, and his edit warring, but in particular because of the unbending nature of his approach to subjects on which he has strong feelings, I think it may (either now or soon) be time to consider invoking the General Probation in his case to ban him from Misplaced Pages completely. I don't think he's shown any sign of trying to work with other Wikipedians, and instead he's treating Misplaced Pages like a corner of Usenet. I no longer cling on to the hope that he has both the capacity and the will to reform.

KDRGibby is placed on general probation. Any three administrators, in the exercise of their judgement for reasonable cause, may ban him from Misplaced Pages if his general pattern of activity is unacceptably disruptive. Such a ban and the basis for it shall logged at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/KDRGibby#Log of blocks and bans.

I'd be interested in your opinion on this. --Tony Sidaway 12:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I've opened a discussion on this on WP:AN. I'd like to see if there are reasonable objections before pressing ahead. --Tony Sidaway 14:38, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi Tom! I saw that you just reverted vandalism on the Claude Debussy page from 216.120.184.66. Thank you! This user seems to have quite a history of vandalism. I'm rather new to Misplaced Pages - is there anything that can be done about this for the future? Best wishes. -MarkBuckles 14:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page. --Nlu (talk) 14:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Query about AFD procedure

JA: Hi, could you explain the AFD procedure to me, as I only dimly remember going through it once before in my first few weeks at WP. I'm under the impression that there's supposed to be a place for discussion and voting, but don't know if that's supposed to be at the article talk page or at some dedicated AFD page. This is in reference to the article Truth theory, a page that already existed, but which I changed from a redirect to an article in order to add content that was being deleted whole hog by one editor at the article on Truth. This was due to objections about its technical level rather than POV issues. Thanks, Jon Awbrey 16:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

JA: Hi again, does "speedy keep" mean I can remove the AFD tag, or should I wait for somebody else to do that? PS, thanx for the smiley templates but I object to the label "mocking", as it's just the way I really look. Jon Awbrey 14:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

35.9.4.44

I think your block may have been a little premature here. The user hadn't even been warned. In fact I'd just added a 'welcome' message (with a little warning) about thirty seconds before you blocked him. DJ Clayworth 14:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

But compare Special:Contributions/35.9.4.44 with Special:Contributions/35.9.4.45. Exactly the same vandalism, and just the last digit different in the IP address. Is Tom vindicated? :-) AnnH ♫ 17:24, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Two consecutive 3RR violations

User:Pecher has twice 3RR violation in last two days, in Dhimmi article. That is yesterday as well as today. Remember what is meaning of 24 hours. From 19:28, 16 May 2006, to 11:57, 17 May 2006 he had 4 edits (excluding self edits). Also he revert each thing that is written with reference saying it WP:RS or see talk page. The whole article of Dhimmi is not neutral and only presenting one side view. The article looks like some anti Islam campaign. I will need you help and support to change it and give both sides view. Do not you think wikipedia policy is to have neutral articles giving both sides view? Right now, I will appreciate if you can give him at least a 3RR warning. Thank you. --- Faisal 19:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I feel extremely bad not to have you on Dhimmi article. You were a big hope for me. Now I do not know that how I can correct that article without a good admin. They continue reverting back all the changes and their number is very large. They have made the article a propoganda article. I am sad after getting your message :( ... --- Faisal 22:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I just want to tell you that I have reported him. Let see if any action is taken against him or not. I am now thinking to report again his yesterday violation as well, in case that will help. --- Faisal 22:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Important e-mail

Tom,

I just sent you an e-mail that requests imeediate action. Sorry to have done this.Timothy Usher 19:38, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

If "Islamic Terrorism" can be tolerated then why not White Christian Terrorism. Is wikipedia only for the white folks?

If "Islamic Terrorism" can be tolerated then why not White Christian Terrorism. Is wikipedia only for the white folks?

AmandaParker

"Hate crime"? "Racism"? Calling 1.2 billion muslims "terrorists" and allowing the terms like "Islamic Terrorism" is not a "Hate crime" or "Racism". Taking off innocent Muslims off the planes coz the fellow passengers didn't feel "comfortable" or making movies to criminalize innocent human beings is not "hate crime" or "racism"? Asking from muslims to continuously apologize for 911 and other acts which were committed by some lunatics and yet not apologizing for White Christian Terrorism is not "hate crime" or "racism"? It is time for the White Christian Terrorists to have the taste of their own medicine which they shoving down the throat of others for centuries. What you guys are doing is harrassment and forcing me to stop contributing to wikipedia which claims to be neutral and yet allow 1.2 billion human beings to be called "terrorists" and yet White Christian Terrorists crimes against humanity, genocide, holocausts squat free. It is double standard and hypocrisy. AmandaParker

Request unprotection

Tom, please, you think we could get that page protection off the Sept 11 article? It's been up for a long time and I think it's no longer necessary. SkeenaR 00:01, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! SkeenaR 00:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Bizarre Practical joke in new messages link

Hi Tom,

Something very strange just happened. I got the "You have new messages (last change)," but the bluelighted link was to Practical joke. At first I thought it was a talk page redirect, but there's nothing in my talk page history, and the "my talk" link was unaffected. How on earth was this done? Any ideas?Timothy Usher 03:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Duh, I'd been had. Check out User:Alienus.Timothy Usher 04:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's just html. Instructive, in a sense. Tom Harrison 12:26, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Langston Deletions

I'd like an explanation for why Glen and Michael Langston were removed from Misplaced Pages with zero explanation. I noticed much of the work I performed cleaning up some of the field definitions in biomechanics and dynamics has been left, but two pages dealing with two specific scientists were destroyed. Why was this done? Imusade 13:40, 18 May 2006

UPDATE: Michael Langston is certainly worthy of inclusion - he aces the "professor test" and is a highly respected figure (certainly one of the most well-known) in the rapidly growing field of bioinformatics. Glen Langston is more debateable - he is young in his field, but is of particular interest due to both the lineage from Michael Langston and his mastery of a formulation of dynamics that is so advanced (Kane's Method)it will be mentioned alongside Newton and Lagrange in history books.

So Michael Langston certainly belongs here, and it may be that Glen Langston does not fulfill requirements because he is currently earning his PhD and is not yet a full professor. Regardless, the area of biodynamics is sorely lacking here on wikipedia, and I will spend some time in the near future updating the areas and adding leading figures, as well as some history.

69.194.28.186

The user with that IP address is vandalizing the Assyrian people article.King Legit

141.217.41.238, he's at it again, he may have a dynamic ip address

It appears as if the same vandal is at it again on the Assyrian people page.

Cookie

Thank you :-) - Drogo Underburrow 06:53, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration on TruthSeeker1234

I have filed a request for arbitration regarding TruthSeeker1234. .--DCAnderson 21:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Heytesbury street

Hi, This certainly was a candidate for deletion in its original form. I've now added material and wonder if you could see what you think of it now? Dlyons493 Talk 20:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal case on Christianity

Hi, I have taken the Christianity case over at the mediation cabal. I am reviewing the case now. -- Joebeone (Talk) 17:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Dia Mirza

Thank you for the action on Dia Mirza. Let's see what happens now. Zora 01:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for protection of Diamirza article..Anon Alleged vandal of Dia Mirza article.

Care to review?

--MONGO 20:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Raphael1.2FPersecution_of_Muslims

I've moved our dialog to WP:ANI. Raphael1 10:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Muhammed al-Ahari article edits by Moorbeyel

You warned Moorbeyel about hacking the article about me. I thought he was blocked. Muhammed al-Ahari

He is now. Tom Harrison 12:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Capital Punishment discussion

I appreciate your assistance in the capital punishment talk page. I'm sorry that you think my behavior was unacceptable. If you don't mind, would you point out what specifically you thought was inappropriate. I'd appreciate it so that I can avoid it in future. Regards. JCO312 05:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for catching this while I was away: . Perhaps the work of this blocked IP from a new machine? Never knew I could draw such attention.... --mtz206 (talk) 20:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

TruthSeeker1234 Journalism

I am indeed writing an article about my experience here, about Misplaced Pages in general, and about 9/11 articles in particular. I did write a draft a few weeks ago, however there is much more to write about now, so I have held off on seeking a publisher. Since you and other administrators are partly the subject, I offer you the opportunity to dialog with me, to be interviewed by phone or email. Prior to seeking publication, I will make a copy available to you, and ask for any corrections, clarifications, or comments that you wish to make.

Contrary to your concerns, this is not meant to be a "threat" of any kind. I am merely exercising free speech, and of the press. I find WIkipedia very interesting. Many people enjoy being the subject of articles.

Of course you are under no obligation to dialog with me at all, and I would never violate your privacy. I hope this clears up the questions you have voiced on other pages.

TruthSeeker1234 22:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)