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| ::::It's 11/26 by my count, but still. Also, given DW's confrontational attitude toward me, the retired Hijiri88 and 8ty3hree it does seem that if it is SAW he hasn't learned his lesson. Did SAW in his day refuse to engage on talk pages and generally stick to snide remarks in edit summaries when he got into a dispute? ] (]) 02:57, 21 April 2013 (UTC) | ::::It's 11/26 by my count, but still. Also, given DW's confrontational attitude toward me, the retired Hijiri88 and 8ty3hree it does seem that if it is SAW he hasn't learned his lesson. Did SAW in his day refuse to engage on talk pages and generally stick to snide remarks in edit summaries when he got into a dispute? ] (]) 02:57, 21 April 2013 (UTC) | ||
| ::::: and edits to main namespace, both showing only about 5% edits to talk pages. In any case, I would caution DW to use talk pages more often, and perhaps point him to ]. I'll talk to him on his own talk page as well. <font face="Frankenstein SF, Luftwaffe, Fraktur, Old English Text MT">]</font> <font face="Helvetica">(] | ])</font> 15:49, 21 April 2013 (UTC) | ::::: and edits to main namespace, both showing only about 5% edits to talk pages. In any case, I would caution DW to use talk pages more often, and perhaps point him to ]. I'll talk to him on his own talk page as well. <font face="Frankenstein SF, Luftwaffe, Fraktur, Old English Text MT">]</font> <font face="Helvetica">(] | ])</font> 15:49, 21 April 2013 (UTC) | ||
| Wilhelm Meis, maybe you should give Konjakupoet that same advice, Konjapoet has NO history of editing ANY Japanese armor and or weapons articles, in fact Konjapoet has NO history!! and yet Konjapoet claims to be an editor on the Japanese Wiki but refuses to reveal under what name. Despite having no history of editing here Konjapoet has made major changes to Japanese armor and weapons articles without first discussing the intended changes on the articles talk pages...merging, renaming, removing referenced information and references, these are not the actions of someone who wants to work and get along with other editors, the bull in the china shop approach is a good way to make friends...not!!!] (]) | |||
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User:Darkness_walks has engaged in discussion at Talk:Kabuto in a manner that implies WP:OWNERSHIP (diff) but has NEVER edited the article. Specifically, this user is defensive of the extraordinary number of images stuffed into this article, nearly all of which were added by User:Samuraiantiqueworld (a quick look at the edit history plainly shows this), who was the main contributor to the article but has been blocked since June 2012. User:Darkness_walks was created in December 2012 (several months after Samurai's indef block) and shows WP:PRECOCIOUS edit history (first edit was adding a template familiar to Samurai, also using other templates on related topics within first 10 edits). Medieval warfare and Japanese martial arts seem to be the primary interests of both accounts. Looks like a block evasion sock. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 06:16, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- WM, you read my mind. Or, rather, we had an edit conflict. I had started writing up the same thing, but then I realized that if SAW wanted to sockpuppet he might not have waited as long as he did, so I came here to see if this had already happened before. Anyway, here's my two cents:
- Both users edit almost exclusively in the area of Japanese weaponry and armour. About half of the pages DW has edited were also edited by the indeffed user Samuraiantiqueworld. Both users show a preference for links to GBooks over properly-formatted references. Both users seem to believe that Misplaced Pages articles on historical Japanese weaponry should refer to said weaponry in the present-tense as though it is still being "traditionally made". (The blocked user seems to REALLY like this phrase -- I'm pretty sure he added it to every single similar article on English Misplaced Pages.)
- Konjakupoet (talk) 16:26, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Looks like just about every article edited by DW had also been edited by SAW. I wonder if there was another sock he was using June-December 2012, probably also blocked now. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 22:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- It's 11/26 by my count, but still. Also, given DW's confrontational attitude toward me, the retired Hijiri88 and 8ty3hree it does seem that if it is SAW he hasn't learned his lesson. Did SAW in his day refuse to engage on talk pages and generally stick to snide remarks in edit summaries when he got into a dispute? Konjakupoet (talk) 02:57, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- 84% (SAW) and 92% (DW) edits to main namespace, both showing only about 5% edits to talk pages. In any case, I would caution DW to use talk pages more often, and perhaps point him to WP:BRD. I'll talk to him on his own talk page as well. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 15:49, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- It's 11/26 by my count, but still. Also, given DW's confrontational attitude toward me, the retired Hijiri88 and 8ty3hree it does seem that if it is SAW he hasn't learned his lesson. Did SAW in his day refuse to engage on talk pages and generally stick to snide remarks in edit summaries when he got into a dispute? Konjakupoet (talk) 02:57, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Looks like just about every article edited by DW had also been edited by SAW. I wonder if there was another sock he was using June-December 2012, probably also blocked now. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 22:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Wilhelm Meis, maybe you should give Konjakupoet that same advice, Konjapoet has NO history of editing ANY Japanese armor and or weapons articles, in fact Konjapoet has NO history!! and yet Konjapoet claims to be an editor on the Japanese Wiki but refuses to reveal under what name. Despite having no history of editing here Konjapoet has made major changes to Japanese armor and weapons articles without first discussing the intended changes on the articles talk pages...merging, renaming, removing referenced information and references, these are not the actions of someone who wants to work and get along with other editors, the bull in the china shop approach is a good way to make friends...not!!!Darkness walks (talk)
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User:Wilhelm Meis is wrong, whether or not I have edited an article in the past has nothing to do with why I would not want it to be changed. I have used and still do use the kabuto article as a learning tool, the images on it as well as the references and descriptions make it a unique learning tool that I have referred to many times in the past. I strongly opposed User:Wilhelm Meis when he stated that the article had to many images, and I stated my reasons why I think the article should be left alone (it is the only article of its kind that I am aware of). I have a great interest in the subject of the articles I have edited but I rarely edit these articles and I have learned how to edit them by imitating the edit style of previous editors which explains any similarity to any other editors particular editing habits. When I come across information which I think may improve an article I add it, also I have added articles I have an interest in to a watch list and when I see that there is a change I take a look, once in a while I revert what appears to be an edit that is not helpful to the article as many editors do, that is all, nothing sinister happening on my part as has been suggested.Darkness walks (talk) 06:22, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Most of your edits in the last 24 hours have been reversions of my edits, and you have made no attempt whatsoever to engage me on talk pages. If you are found not to be a sockpuppet you will still be taken to ANI for edit-warring.
- I think you will be the one taken to ANI for removing referenced information, renaming and merging articles with out discussing your intentions, and your uncivil comments.Darkness walks (talk) 04:02, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Konjakupoet (talk) 06:29, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Additionally, if you get a large amount of your knowledge of Japanese history from images in Misplaced Pages articles, then please refrain from pretending to know more than legitimate scholars... Konjakupoet (talk) 09:24, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Konjakupoet, this space is supposed to be for presenting information that has to do with the discussion taking place here, not for personal attacks, you seem to have a complete lack of knowledge on the subject of Japanese weapons and armor, you seem hell bent on forcing your POV that all Wiki articles should conform to your personal beliefs based on your superior knowledge of japanese, you have renamed articles, merged articles, removed referenced text all without going to the talk pages of the articles first, you seem to feel that you have some sort of special insight because you can speak Japanese.Darkness walks (talk) 04:02, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- For me, it's nothing personal, and I have no particular problem with DW. I just saw something that looked suspicious, and as I started looking into it, I found more evidence to make me suspect block evasion/sock puppetry. In fairness, even an editor evading a block can go on to make valuable contributions to the project. But most of them don't. The first thing that tipped me off, though, was the thought "why would an editor be so defensive of an article he has never touched?" Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 15:21, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Wilhelm_meis, it seems to be personal, otherwise why would you not have the decency to inform me that you were taking this measure? I have taken a close look at the contributions of the editor you are accusing me of being, do you really think that samuraiantiqueworld would be limited to the few minor edits I have made over the period of time I have been editing? I did some checking, samuraiantiqueworld has many thousands of edits on Wiki commons and several thousands here, how many have I made, and of course I have edited the same articles samuraiantiqueworld has edited because there seems to be not one Japanese weapons and or armor armour article that samuraiantiqueworld has not edited. I took some time to check the edit histories of a lot of these articles, most were not very good articles if not complete junk before samuraiantiqueworld edited them, now they have good references and images ,my few edits do not even come close to that, I have a job and family, I do not have time to do more than a few edits once in a while. I think the kabuto article is GREAT, I have no reason to edit it, if I were to edit it I would add more images and information, not less, I do not see any reason to take anything away from it. In SCA this article along with Anthony Bryant's web site are referred to all the time when questions about kabuto come up.Darkness walks (talk) 04:02, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
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