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If you feel I can help you or Misplaced Pages as a human, as an editor or with my newly acquired cleaning tools, then just ask and I will be happy to assist. If you will feel that I do not live up to your expectation and renegade on my promises, please contact me. Maybe it was not a malice but just ignorance or a short temper. Thank you very mach, once more! abakharev 07:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the award. I know I don't deserve that as I sometimes loose my temper. Although, I'll keep that to remember the standards I aim to adhere to. :-) alx-pl D 22:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Help needed

Hi, I wonder if you could take a look at Talk:Erika Steinbach, where among other things one of the editors explains that Polish territory was not occupied by Nazi Germany during WW2 but was "integrated" into Germany instead. I hope it could be useful if not Polish but German editors would voice their opinion there. --Lysy 17:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Hallo, ich würde mich gerne mit Dir (und all den anderen, die das unerträglich dumme und selbstverliebte Geschwätz nicht mehr ertragen können) über Molobo und dessen Verquerung/Verzerrung/Falschgewichtung/etc geschichtlicher Tatsachen (zB Kulturkampf) auf der englischen Wiki-Seite sowie über geeignete und angemessene Gegenmaßnahmen sprechen. (Eigentlich sollte einem dieser Ignorant egal sein, aber) Wenn man bedenkt, wie viele Menschen im englischsprachigen Raum täglich diesen Schwachsinn lesen und - mangels anderer Informationen - am Ende auch noch für bare Münze nehmen, kann einem nur Angst und Bange werden.

Da unter Molobo und seiner Clique der Glaube vorzuherrschen scheint, dass der von ihnen verzapfte Unsinn, wenn man ihn nur lange genug wiederholt, schon irgendwann wahr wird, sehe ich jedenfalls keinen Sinn darin, sich mit dieser offenbar völlig verblendeten Truppe im Wege einer sachlichen Diskussion auseinanderzusetzen (dass Du das - wie man sieht - bislang tapfer versucht hast, ehrt Dich, ist aber mE ein Kampf gegen Windmühlen). Es sollte aber noch andere (selbstverständlich faire und zulässige) Strategien geben sich gegen die Kamerilla zur Wehr zu setzen.

Hallo Sciurinae At your age you should not have to wrestle with heavy problems and burdens like the topics you are trying to keep fair in wikipedia, but somehow you stepped into this morass by trying to use reason with a group of people, who are determined to and are taking over at wikipedia and elsewhere. I found this article, which gives some pretty good inside to what is really going on here and elsewhere . Perhaps an independend school/student/academics or other group project somewhere could individually list the problems and the quotes. wiki is not an independent site, despite of what it seems to be. The problem is much too detailed for one or even a handful of people alone. American user Sca wrote a while back, who tried to reason with them, but gave up, as so many others did, 'these people are not bothered by facts at all'. Mind you, every word you write and is written about you, every poisonous false utterance, every statement, by Molobo & Co or others is multiplied by wikipedia mirrors and shows up on search engines manyfold, also Vorsicht. MG 3/31/2006

Sciurinae, just a note for clarification:

The article on internet talks about 'Poland and the Falsification of its History'. Therefore this link was posted for its book title only. Neither the book nore any of the people are known to me and it is not an indorsement or a recommendation of the book or anyone related to it. Merely the title reflects what Molobo & Co are doing at Misplaced Pages constantly.

The article starts (Translation): Have the courage to speak your mind ... there will be no longer doubts, the words bring clarity. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

If you want to, you (or I) can take the link out and just replace it with the title: Poland and the Falsification of its History.

False Accusation: Claims, that 'your friend' recommended other books from the site and a number of other nonesense rantings. Twisting and turning seems to be a Molobo speciality.

MG 4/6/2006

Other books from the site recommended by your friend:

• Arnold S. Leese, et al. - Jewish Ritual Murder resources.
• Von Verschuer - Racial Biology of the Jews.
• The Godless - What the Nazis were fighting against.

The site also uses nazi propaganda imagery: signed:Tell her the truth about history, race and culture.

It's somewhat good that people show sources of their views and edits. --Molobo 18:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused. You mean these racist books represent MGs' views and edits? Sciurinæ 18:45, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

MGs says its a good representation of what's going on. The book is a racists tirade on how inferior Poles are as a nation. What should I think of a person who presents such books and links to sites presenting Holocaust Denial and Nazi propaganda ? Anyway sorry for the interruption. Please continue your discussions with your friend. --Molobo 18:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Sciurinæ, here is a Polish site in English language on internet.

Molobo, might also want to read the following article. It gives insight and some sort of explanation for what is going on.

It is a Polish article on Falsification of History in Poland:

http://wiez.free.ngo.pl/jedwabne/article/35.html

Reading and pondering this might actually do some good. In any case it gives some explains, why the distortions, misrepresentations and twisting of facts at Misplaced Pages are going on. The extreme fanatism and destructiveness is difficult to comprehend though and constantly 'wiping up after them' gets tiring.

Anyway, have a good weekend. MG 4/7/2006

Kusma's RfA

Image:AA Zyda.jpg

Hello, as we can see in

• http://www.digigarden.com/digicamera/pix2003/03-BizTrips/03-12-singapore/
• http://www.damer.com/notice/notice.cc.html

I change license tag cc-by-sa to cc-by-nc-sa. If you have author agremment, maybe it need to say it. fr:Utilisateur:Bayo 15:34, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello... your recent contributions have been almost nothing except reverts of other editors on many, many articles, numerous times the same editors... Please, this is not the way to resolve disputes. If you don't start discussing on the talk page and stop constantly reverting, you will be blocked from editing. Thank you. In the interest of complete closure, I have also left this message for Space Cadet (talk · contribs).--Sean Black 00:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Berlin

Hi Sciurinæ, thanks for supporting Berlin Misplaced Pages:Good Article Collaboration of the week request. May be you have the time to promote it to other users or put the request in discussiongroups. Would be great ! Sashandre all the best for you

sorry

That was my first effort at using popups...I tried to clean it up, but you beat me to it. Best, Kukini 15:25, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Johannes Hevelius Polonus

John Hevelius was Polish astronomer in non stricte ethnical sense - see Mikołaj Kopernik casus. He was Polish citizen, supported by Polish king. See also casus of G.F. Händel who had German origins but he was British.

User:Mathiasrex

Vandalism reverts

I see you have recently done a lot of vandalism reverting, which is very good. (Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my userpage so quickly, by the way). To ensure that the vandals do get blocked when they vandalize repeatedly, could you please warn them using the warning templates and possibly report them at WP:AIV if they vandalize after a final warning? Thank you, Kusma (討論) 21:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I generally use {{test2}} for deliberate but harmless vandalism and {{bv}} for really bad stuff. I use {{test}} for cases where I manage to assume good faith that the edit was a test ("Hey I can edit this page!" would be a typical example), while some other people always start with {{test}}. There are no hard rules for all of this; use your own judgement. And don't worry that your threats are empty: via WP:AIV, they aren't really empty, and also empty threats often work surprisingly well: Many vandals stop after the first or second warning because they realize other people are watching their edits. In your specific example, I would give a {{test2}}. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 22:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Expulsion

Do you really think that the map displayed at the Expulsions article is appropriate without a map that would reflect the pre-WW2 areas with german majority? I don't know anything about the extent, but I think that it is possible, that there was some new german expansion during WW2, therefore the map showing the land traditionally - I mean more than 2 centuries - inhabited by germans would be more appropriate. If we are talking expulsions, we talk about deporting people from their homes, not from the houses of polish Jews which they gained in WW2. I second the removal of the map frop. You can RfC if you dont agree. 85.70.5.66 19:21, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

For reverting the vandalism to my user page! --Charlie 19:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Re:

Are you sure you made the right title ? I don't see anything uncivil.Perhaps you should be more specific ? Is the information that Prussia viewed Poles as inferior people uncivil in some way ? Is that why it is being deleted by you and your German collegues ? --Molobo 21:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Again, you're not succeeding in making me angry, Molobo. You know very well why these comments of yours ( ) are incivil. This way you're just blowing your last chance in Misplaced Pages. Sciurinæ 21:09, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Polonophobia article was just fine. Many Polish editors agree with it and want it restored. It simply attacked too often by various national POV pushers that vandalise it. Including Polish nationalists.

It appears that you vehemently try to ally with Ukrainian editors to fight against Russians. That would also explain why you're so keen on defining my "collegues" Looking at this I am really shocked Sciurinæ. Perhaps you should rest a while from Wiki. It seems you are seeing conspiracies and plots everywhere. The reason behind my actions is simple-I study history and I know how much wrongdoings are there between Poles and Ukrainians with both sides having some misdeeds to each other. I really advise you to either rest or distance yourself from Wiki as you are sounding more and more strange(I am really sorry if that offends you but this is the impression I get from your statements).

It's strange that you make me make friends with others. Hmmm. You take part in the same debates, use the same arguments, and pursue the same edits so I guessed I generalised you as a group due to similiar interests, behaviour and actions. somehow I get the idea that you're planning some kind of Wiki World War... Please Sciurinæ either rest or really distance yourself from Wiki, you are starting to sound very, very weird. I am simply interested in XIX and XX century history.

the others and then proceed without your prior approval. Hmm ? I agree with others if they are reasnoble and engage in sensible discussion. For example Richardshusr Just use arguments, no insults, and discussion. --Molobo 01:45, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

H-K-T

Hi there, I just wanted to let you know that I have expanded the article on German Eastern Marches Society significantly and hopefully this would end the debates. I hope to hear your opinion on the matter. //Halibutt 22:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

NC question

As you have noticed, I try to stay out of this debate. However recently Molobo pointed me to this edit. I am rather averse to edits remving sources - could you explain to me your reasons behind it? I don't want to go to article and revert anything before I hear both sides of the story.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 15:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)