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Hi, USchick. Mind weighing in on whether or not you support my alternative lead proposal? 209.226.31.161 (talk) 22:35, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I would love to, but they were saying for existing opinions not to participate in the "third opinion" discussion. USchick (talk) 22:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm the one who said I mostly wanted outside opinions for the RfC. But no more outside opinions are coming in at the moment. And, as you can see, existing opinions are taking place in the section below the RfC. Yours is welcomed as much as theirs, and all of us are trying to come to a consensus about the intro. 209.226.31.161 (talk) 00:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Traditional rituals

Hi - '(our traditional "groomsmen")' is in fact Freud's own formulation/interpolation, not mine: I think he wanted to stress the historical depth of the thing. What about re-instating? Jacobisq (talk) 09:53, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

PS I think I've tracked down the OTO link now - pretty sure it's Alastair Crowley's org. (in the disambiguation) that was originally meant: thanks. Jacobisq (talk) 09:56, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm ok with reinstating, since it's part of a quote. However, the quotes need an explanation, since they're taken out of context, especially when the quote ends with "usual jokes" (what usual jokes?) I encourage you to take it to the discussion page and see what others say. USchick (talk) 15:49, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm accusing Aronoel and Fistoffoucault of edit warring for refusing to accept consensus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#Aronoel_and_Fistoffoucault_refuse_to_accept_consensus.

Dave3457 (talk) 12:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

It takes three reverts to count as an edit war. Thanks for your effort though, I know it's frustrating. USchick (talk) 00:32, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Kamal Abbas.jpg

I was wondering if you could give you opinion on the picture nomination to be a featured picture. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 16:20, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

The cropping has been done because the image should be in the DYK section soon but the original file remains untouched, it just appears so on wiki english. That's why noone is screaming bloody murder :D I didnt think the B&W thingy would be an issue tho but I think I addressed it. Thanks too for the heads up -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 21:30, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

re: Qetesh

Hi,

The article is already included in the category Egyptian goddesses, which is a subcategory of Egyptian mythology. It's generally not a good idea to include something in both a category and its subcategory since the main category would be too crowded if all the pages from its subcategories would be included in it. – Alensha  02:36, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. USchick (talk) 02:38, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

The masculine's attraction to the feminine.

On the femininity talk page you said...

Dave3457, I'd like kindly to point out that it's a common misperception that women do anything because "men find it attractive." This line of thinking is also fundamentally flawed.... Like you already pointed out, women starving themselves has nothing to do with men, and along the same lines, most of the things that women do is not to attract men. Men are attracted anyway, no matter what women do throughout centuries (less hair, more hair, longer necks, shorter necks, fatter, thinner, whatever – men continue to be attracted.)...USchick (talk) 15:22, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

USchick, Your view is contradicted by just about everything. For example, by the 0.7 Waist to hip ratio study, by the fact that playboy doesn't pick their models at random, by who I find attractive and who I don't. Everything contradicts your view. Maybe you could explain what you mean by "Men are attracted anyway..." because, as a red blooded male, that's not my personal experience :) Dave3457 (talk) 20:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Dave, you're describing what men do. We were talking about what women do and why they do it. Those are two very different conversations.:) USchick (talk) 03:29, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

You said "...you're describing what men do"

No I'm not, I'm describing what they find attractive.

You said "We were talking about what women do and why they do it."

That's right, they behave and adore themselves in certain ways to appear attractive to men.

Do you disagree with the statement..."Masculine males are sexually attracted to feminine females."? Dave3457 (talk) 17:35, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I can't speak for men and what they may be attracted to. I can only say this – Women behave in certain ways and adorn themselves. The end. This has nothing to do with attracting anyone. You're drawing conclusions that aren't there, even if they can be supported by reliable sources. USchick (talk) 19:00, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I have to say that I am a bit surprised that you believe such a thing. It contradicts, for example, the fact that women dress more sexy when they go to bars.Dave3457 (talk) 17:45, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, maybe in bars. I'm sure it has a lot to do with what kind of women you're talking about. I know several clingy desperate women who are constantly seeking men's approval and for some reason can't maintain a relationship. Then there are successful independent women who simply go about their business and don't concern themselves with silliness like who may or may not like the outfit they're wearing, and those women can't beat men off with a stick, even if they're not always cute (because they're doing something) and even if their nails aren't always done (because they're doing something) and even when they're not wearing sexy clothes – because they're doing something with their lives, something other than sitting in a bar, waiting for a man to notice them. Dave, I have no idea how old you are, but I encourage you to upgrade to a different class of women. You might like it... a lot! :-) USchick (talk) 20:27, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Kuman/Kypchak

IRC!

Hi! I just wanted to let you know that we have created an IRC channel for women and Misplaced Pages: called Wikimedia-gendergap - I hope you'll join us. (And if you need any IRC help, just let me know!) See you there! SarahStierch (talk) 21:49, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

File:Gbowee.jpg

Hi, this file fails WP:NFCC#1 and is nominated for deletion. Regards Hekerui (talk) 09:40, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

File:LiberianWomen.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:LiberianWomen.jpg, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:58, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

About the article "Timoshenko"

Hi, USchick.

Ещё раз благодарю Вас за преревод фрагментов к статье "Тимошенко" — они полностью вошли в статью; и устранили содержавшиеся в статье смешные выдумки о "армянском происхождении Тимошенко", и т. д.

Сейчас та же проблема. В статье "Тимошенко" слабо излагается тема "суда над Тимошенко" — например, написано, что "Тимошенко арестовали за неуважение к суду". Конечно, это не причина ареста; и так далее. В текущем виде статься о Тимошенко (в английской Википедии) более реакционна, чем статья в русской и украинской Википедии. Хотя в англоязычных СМИ — преобладают правильные статьи с точными оценками происходящего в Украине.

В общем, та же просьба : Сможете ли Вы перевести одну-две странички текста к статье "Тимошенко"? Если, да, то я размещу "рускоязычные вариант" на своей странице.

Тему "Западные СМИ о судах над Тимошенко" я знаю хорошо — мои статьи в Википедии-ру :

• "Уголовные дела в отношении Юлии Тимошенко с 2010 года",
• "Уголовные дела в отношении соратников Тимошенко с 2010 года".

Кстати об Украине, в последней серии сериала "Симпсоны" (сезон 23, серия 1) — уже появился "гангстер Виктор" в котором все узнают Януковича (в Google набрать "Янукович Симпсоны").--Vles1 (talk) 13:29, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Liberia edits

Hi, I wanted to let you know that I reverted your three edits to the Liberia page. The information you added about Sirleaf and Gbowee winning the Nobel Peace Prize, as well as the entire paragraph about the Women of Liberia Mass Action for Peace, is about specific Liberia-related topics with their own pages and is not broad enough to warrant mention on the country's page. As an example, neither Barack Obama's Peace Prize nor the Occupy Wall Street movement are mentioned in the United States page, since those topics are too specific and not about the United States in general.

I did add a mention of the peace movement in the history section within the context of the pressure exerted on the warring factions to end the war, and linked to the peace movement's page. The more detailed information you added would probably best improve that page, as well as Gbowee's and Sirleaf's pages. Thanks, and cheers! Idaltu (talk) 02:43, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Occupy movement

Hello User:USchick. Sometime ago you expressed interest in my proposal for an Occupy movement project on Misplaced Pages. A formal proposal has been made at the project council proposal page. If you are still interested you may add your name at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Occupy movement.--Amadscientist (talk) 22:01, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Age of consent in various religious

Привіт. Це був недружній прийом на сторінці проекту. Ну що ж. As far as I know these topics aren't covered in articles such as age of consent for any religion, and you may have to add edits yourself, starting with the religion you asked about - but similar for others. Це наступні книги можуть допомогти:

• Charlotte Elisheva Fonrobert, Martin S. Jaffee The Cambridge Companion to the Talmud And Rabbinic Literature 2007 Page 184 has discussion of bethrothal of minors or underage arranged marriage (not sure which article that would come under) which includes "Then there is the institution of me'un (“refusal”), whereby an underage girl could be married off by her mother or brothers, but could, upon reaching her majority, ..." refuse. etc.
• Jacob Neusner is perhaps the most respected mainstream academic commentator on the Talmud. In The Talmud of Babylonia: an academic commentary Volume 13, Part 2; Volume 13, Part 2 1996

he notes "when she reaches puberty, she may reject the marriage and walk out on it."

• Heinrich Walter Guggenheimer The Jerusalem Talmud: Fourth Order: Neziqin Volume 11 2010 has the section "The repudiation of a marriage by an underage girl married off by her mother or brothers after her father's death and whose marriage during her minority is valid only rabbinically: cf. Yebamot Chapter I3. 224"
• Avraham Grossman Pious and rebellious: Jewish women in Medieval Europe 2004 Page 35 touches on the issue of underage relations (but I'm not sure if marriage is included) "The Talmud (Niddah 13b) states that: "Those who play with female children delay the Messiah." This is an expression of clear opposition to sexual relations with girls who are not yet able to bear child, which are understood as "playing" ..."

I don't know whether you'll find the correct/relevant articles for these to be added in, but in adding in material you can generate discussion edits from other editors. I hope. Good luck (Бажаю вам удачі!) In ictu oculi (talk) 11:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

дуже дякую! What a hornet's nest, I'll have to think about whether or not it's worth the fight. USchick (talk) 03:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Angel Laylah

Hi, thanks for your edits, but I've had to move some of them out to Talk while we work out exactly what each source says about each source Jewish text, and then have the relevant source Jewish texts in chronological order. For example Davidson says "Genesis Rabbah 417" says something, but what? This is the problem with many sources on angelogy, 90% of them are for entertainment, we need to drill down to scholarly WP:RS. All Davidson can do it point. Ginzberg is different, he was a scholar, but his sources are unfortunately in Vol6.and.7, doesn't help. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Dispute resolution survey

Lilith

Hi. Could you please underline on Talk the sentences you mean? In ictu oculi (talk) 02:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Curse of nakedness

Sources

• The Story of V: A Natural History of Female Sexuality by Catherine Blackledge
• In Nigeria: Protesting oil companies
• In the Bible
• In Kenya 1922
• Around the world sources are listed.

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Theopolisme _{TALK 20:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)}