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wickwack topic ban

Hi, NYB. If you'll reread the ANI discussion, there seems to be general consensus that should wickwack actually register an account, rather than use an IP but sign a name manually, he should not be blocked under good behavior. You have issued a block of six months, which implies he'd remain blocked even if he registered. I suggest you contact another poster at that discussion if you think me interpretation is off. Otherwise, I'd reword the ban to drop the six months and make it clear he's not banned if he registers and behaves. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 21:51, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I've just re-read the discussion and I'd assess the comments as maybe half of them being qualified by the caveat and the other half (including the original topic-ban proposal) not. Given that there is no indication Wickwack plans to register, the distinction may be moot and so I am not inclined to reopen the discussion to clarify the point. However, if Wickwack does register an account and promises to edit only from that account, I would consider allowing him to reopen the discussion on AN and explain how he will contribute to the RD more productively and in one place going forward. You may feel free to let him know of this. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:51, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, understood. Of course wickwack has intentionally made it impossible to contact him. μηδείς (talk) 16:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Fixed. I seem to be attracting the bots to this page lately. Maybe it's the new cologne I'm wearing. Newyorkbrad (talk) 19:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks. For a moment there I thought I had someone following my edits in real-time. :) Newyorkbrad (talk) 19:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Advice

Can you take a look at User talk:80.114.178.7? This IP is a sock of a globally-locked user. I wonder if they're using other IPs, etc, as they seem to be very active on many wikis. I've blocked this IP on Commons, and asked a CU/steward there to advise. Also, is the 1-year block good? I've seen other wikis where this IP is blocked longer. Thanks for your time. INeverCry 06:06, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It is possible to get a global block if you go to m:SRG. --Rschen7754 06:43, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I know, but the requests there are 4 days old. I also noticed that this user has shown up with two IPs in the same thread on the Meta talkpage of sysop/steward Matanya, without being blocked on Meta. The other IP, User:129.125.102.126, is already blocked here and on Commons, but is also still live on Meta. I don't feel like having to deal with this rude and confrontational person on Meta when he sees the global block request. INeverCry 15:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

See commons:User talk:Trijnstel#Erik Warmelink for further details, especially regarding a global block of the IP/s. INeverCry 00:28, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties

If you enjoyed Freedom for the Thought That We Hate, hopefully you might also like Fuck: Word Taboo and Protecting Our First Amendment Liberties.

The book is quite a fascinating read.

I hope you're doing well, — Cirt (talk) 07:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Nice user page.108.207.243.46 (talk) 03:51, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Cirt, you might be interested in the new biography of Floyd Abrams that was recently issued, which discusses his role in several important First Amendment cases. You might also enjoy reading the article I drafted this week on In re Snyder, which involved a freedom-of-speech issue, although it was ultimately resolved on non-constitutional grounds.

108..., thank you. I believe it was User:Mets501 who originally helped me format the page. I haven't seen him around much lately, but given his current activities, he is excused. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:04, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Brad, have you read the Abrams biography? I have not yet, but I did read some of the author's blog posts recently. I wasn't terribly impressed, but if you recommend it, I might consider picking it up. NW (Talk) 05:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I have the book here but have only skimmed it thus far. I think I will enjoy its "backstage perspective on some famous cases" angle (a genre I always associate with Irving Younger and more recently with the "Law Stories" series), plus I'm familiar with Abrams's law firm, as I know a couple of attorneys there (although not Abrams himself). I can't opine yet whether you would enjoy it (I suggested it to Cirt as I know he has an expertise in current First Amendment law, with which Abrams is associated). I know you have an interest in law and legal history, so if you are looking for some summer reading, I can point you toward a couple of recommendations if you tell me a little more specifically what you might be interested in. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 05:50, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

First Amendment law is interesting to me, but it is perhaps not my favorite. The three legal/history books I remember reading in the last year are Justice Stevens' memoir, Linda Greenhouse's book on Justice Blackmun, and Ratification by Pauline Maier, all of which I enjoyed. I was thinking the other day that it has been a long while since I read anything about the Gilded Age or early labor law. If you have any suggestions for something that would fit either category, I will definitely check them out. NW (Talk) 06:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Jax

Can you look at the case of "Jax 0677" currently at ANI? It seems to me that the community restrictions are self-contradictory and basically baiting him to break his topic ban whenever he "may be asked to assist" by editing exactly the types of pages he's not allowed to edit. I honestly don't understand the big bruhaha over some nav templates, but I've seen several admins go ballistic over an AfD with a forgone conclusion and yet more duke it out over infoboxes (that is still currently featured at ANI), so this about par for Misplaced Pages 2013... 86.121.18.17 (talk) 02:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I was pretty much offline the day you posted this. I see that the ANI thread is now resolved, so hopefully there will be no more issues. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:02, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

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Fixing, thanks. Newyorkbrad (talk) 05:55, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Need your opinion on a BLP matter

Hi. Can you offer your thoughts in this discussion? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 15:11, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Responded there. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Responded there. Please note that I automatically watchlist any page I post to. Talkpage templates are not necessary. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Brad, I made this post at Jimbo's talk page, which included a question directed to you as the administrator who imposed Russavia's restriction. I would be interested in his thoughts on my proposed idea but obviously wouldn't want anyone to break a restriction, so I asked if he can respond there. If not, is he permitted to respond to the idea on his own talk page? Thanks. EdChem (talk) 04:56, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for posting. I think it would be better if we allow the discussion on Jimbo's page to wind down, but it would be okay for Russavia to respond on his own page, as this wouldn't be editing about Jimmy per se. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 05:11, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I have invited Russavia to comment on his talk page. EdChem (talk) 05:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Reporting an unacceptable personal attack

Hi NYB, seeing as you have taken it upon yourself to deal with me I am now asking you to deal with personal attacks against myself. This is below the pale -- calling myself and another editor "parasites" is disgraceful. I will no longer be sitting idly by and putting up with personal attacks on myself on this project. Please take action against that. Russavia (talk) 00:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Hm, what does one do with a user who calls another user retarded, while suggesting that their penis be sliced off to avoid the possibility of them having children? (source). Tarc (talk) 01:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Russavia, I think you might mean "beyond the pale". Delicious carbuncle (talk) 04:05, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

When it is telling a group of trolls for the 3rd time to stay away from them, you block the trolls and allow the editor to edit in peace. But on this occasion, well the harassed is dealt with severely, whilst the harassers get a free pass. How broken is English Misplaced Pages? Russavia (talk) 08:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree that the term "parasite" is divisive and should not be used to categorize contributors. However, I see that the editor has clarified his comment, explaining that he is using "parasites" to mean (my paraphrase) "editors whose contributions are mostly one or more steps away from actual content creation." For better or worse, that may describe your contributions lately, and it certainly describes mine over the past few years (although not the past couple of weeks!). Personally I don't think this is a valid metric for evaluating an editor's value to the project, as there are plenty of legitimate reasons for non-mainspace editing, this discussion being one of them; but I can't say that reviving the circa 2006 call for "less talk, more writing" is inherently illegitimate, although I'll end where I began and repeat that the sentiment can be expressed in a less inflammatory manner. Newyorkbrad (talk) 05:23, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Yep, so in other words, you will do nothing about it, not even a warning. Thanks for showing me that it is totally ok to engage in personal attacks on other editors on this project. This is just another example of how English Misplaced Pages is broken. Russavia (talk) 08:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

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Please join the Chemical Heritage Foundation Edit-a-Thon, June 20, 2013. Build content relating to women in science, chemistry and the history of science. Use the hashtag #GlamCHF and write your favorite scientist or chemist into Wikipedian history!

I noticed you're busy elsewhere for Wiknic, so I thought I'd mention this event. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 02:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I can't make the date, and have only a layperson's knowledge of chemistry and the history of chemistry, but it sounds like a good event, so please let me know if there's another one.

(I suppose I could make a bad pun about how our science editors will be in their element, as this type of event leads to bonding between contributors, but I am trying to rise above that sort of thing.) Newyorkbrad (talk) 05:16, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Special BLP enforcement restriction

You really should rescind this user's topic ban, both because it sets very bad precedent, and because it is effectively no less a form of workplace bullying than what it purports to address. I am not going to sugarcoat the fact that I instinctively checked to see if your name was up for election after seeing this, and I don't have a vested interest in either of the associated parties, nor do I have any problem with you personally. That's how infuriating it was at first sight.   — C M B J   09:58, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

NYB, did you know that I have a B.Com with a double major in Human Resource Management and Industrial Relations, and that I was part of a small team that helped to implement a sexual harassment policy and equal opportunity policy in a government department which has several thousands employees, and was later employed on contract with a mining/engineering company with around 8,500 employees (at the time) and one of the achievements under that contract was the implementation of a workplace sexual harassment policy. So given that I have PROFESSIONAL HRM/IR experience in sexual harassment policy, let me say that I can only concur with CMBJ on this point. If this was a workplace in the real world, which others are portraying these projects as, and under Australian law, I would have the right to take the issue to court for actual harassment in the workplace. And of course, we have unfair dismissal laws here in this country (something you guys don't have) which would prevent the further retribution by the accusers and guilty parties with threats of dismissal. And because these accusations are being made publicly, I would also have a civil case for the outrageous and totally libellous accusations of sexual harassment being levelled against me. (Jimmy's accusations do a great disservice to actual victims of sexual harassment in the real world). This is not a legal threat, but simply a clarification of how things work in the real world, given people want to apply real world standards to this project.

The article that CMBJ links provides clear definitions and tactics used in workplace bullying, and if this was the real world, you too would be found to have participated in that bullying. You should actually be ashamed that you have engaged in this. But let me say this, let's leave the "Jimmy topic ban" in place, because it shows what lengths The Leader and his followers will go to in order to stifle dissent and progressive viewpoints, and as yet another demonstration of how truly broken English Misplaced Pages is, and how totally clueless people in authority on this project are when it comes to management of human resources (it's editors). Russavia (talk) 10:27, 16 June 2013 (UTC)