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| ::Thank you for caring! Andy sent a short email that retina surgery went well but he needs to lay down most of the time for a week and can't edit. I am glad surgery went well. Did you know that he created ]? --] (]) 18:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC) | ::Thank you for caring! Andy sent a short email that retina surgery went well but he needs to lay down most of the time for a week and can't edit. I am glad surgery went well. Did you know that he created ]? --] (]) 18:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC) | ||
| :::I had a similar procedure in 2007; you do have to - quite literally - keep your head down for at least a week, and after that, for a great deal of the day for a while longer. It's a BIG deal as far as being able to read or use a computer!!!! Best wishes to Andy for a full recovery! ]<sup>]</sup> 18:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC) | :::I had a similar procedure in 2007; you do have to - quite literally - keep your head down for at least a week, and after that, for a great deal of the day for a while longer. It's a BIG deal as far as being able to read or use a computer!!!! Best wishes to Andy for a full recovery! ]<sup>]</sup> 18:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC) | ||
| Thank you to you all, and those who have sent good wishes via other means. The surgery, to repair a detached retina, seems to have gone well, but it's too early to know what the long-term outcome will be. I am still effectively immobile for 50 mins in every hour, and so cannot use a keyboard, only my phone. I should be up and about in three or four days, and ''may'' be at the Covent Garden event. I may do some minor edits (I have some files to upload) as I return to activity, and will respond to longer debates as soon as I am able, later. Right, that's my ten minute break up... <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 10:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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ANI re your DR
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaijin42 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
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Re 3RR
I just want to apologize again for falsely accusing you of 3RR. I really should have double-checked the history first, and I feel like a dick. Really sorry. —Frungi (talk) 14:55, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Bancroft Shed
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Template:Infobox deity
now a merged template, may need some microformats. Frietjes (talk) 20:19, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. There are no microformats for fictional characters. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:32, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- okay, then how about Template:Infobox Egyptian dignitary? Frietjes (talk) 18:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- Done; thanks. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:01, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- okay, then how about Template:Infobox Egyptian dignitary? Frietjes (talk) 18:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Review of one edit
To Andy and Nikkimaria: I'm troubled by seeing two editors I both respect at each other. I've poked around a bit, but d not yet fully understand the issues. I started looking at some of the diffs provided by Andy. If I may, I'll start with one, as I have questions for both of you.
Nikkimaria, I see:
- an improvement to grammar
- an improvement to the Google Books ref, but
- a removal of the access date. (There are some who think access dates aren't needed on certain types of refs, but I wouldn't have made that argument on this one. Do you, or is it for some other reason?)
- a removal of some of the empty parameters.
- a removal of the influences. The edit summary says unsourced, but Epstein appears to be sourced
I'd be curious to know why the empty parameters were removed. I think I could support the removal of honorific_prefix if you know enough about the subject to know that it will never apply. However, why remove awards? It may be that the removal of the influences is why this is on the list. I do not support such inclusion, but I think that should be a community decision, not an individual editors decision. I think the community is on board with the notion that unsourced entries in the infobox are problematic, and you cited unsourced, presumably to justify removal of Epstein, but the source clearly supports it, so what am I missing?
Andy, when I first started writing this, I had missed that the influences were removed, so I originally was puzzled why this was on the list. I'm not on board with removing all empty parameters, but think that is worth a community discussion, and doubt that prompted the inclusion. Am I correct in guessing that the removal of the influences prompted the addition to the list, or were any of the other edits an issue?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- Regardless of the content changed, Nikki is stalking my edits, which is expressly prohibited. I am not clear why you are using this talk page to address her. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:19, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- I am not using this talk page to address her. I looked at an edit, saw questions that I wished to address to both of you, and copied the same question to each page, as a courtesy.
- Stalking is a serious charge, and needs to be investigated, which I am starting to do. However, my process involves understanding the edits.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:00, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining; and investogating. Stalking is indeed a serious charge; it's also demonstrably a true one. What do you intend to do about it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Answered partially at ANI and partially below. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining; and investogating. Stalking is indeed a serious charge; it's also demonstrably a true one. What do you intend to do about it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Courtesy notice
In an earlier question, I had questions for both of you, so I posted the same question to both talk pages. In this case, my question are mainly aimed at Nikkimaria, but I'm letting you know I asked a question, prompted by the reading of the Arbcom guidance, here.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- You still seem to be focused on the contents of edits; the issue is stalking, which is prohibited regardless of the content, with certain exceptions which unequivocally do not apply in this case. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:40, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I followed the link you provided, which provides some guidance on determining whether edits should be construed as wikihounding, and I am asking questions to see if I am missing something, because one I looked at seemed to qualify, but before jumping to a conclusion, I wasn't to see what, if anything I missing.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I've seen enough
It occurred to me as I reviewed some of the edits identified by Andy that I was emphasizing more recent edits. Perhaps one or both of you had been using the talk pages, and found it fruitless, so abandoned it. I just now looked at the first two edits in the list of examples, both in December 2012. In neither case do I see either of you at the article talk page, nor so I see evidence that either of you discussed either of these articles on each other's editor talk pages. You both have tens of thousands of edits, yet are ignoring rules we expect editors with a hundred edits to follow.
I had panned to look into more edits, but I think that is a waste of time. While I do see some edits that are problematic, I see them on both sides.
At the moment, I feel both of you deserve trouts, and request that you both drop the sticks, start over, and follow Editing 101 processes. Then, if one or the other does violate policies, guidelines or editing protocol expected by the community, it will be far easier to admonish the guilty party.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:29, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
- You're mistaken (as I've pointed out on ANI, so won't repeat here); you're also still hung up on the content of edits. This is about stalking. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Screen sizes and viewing galleries
I have quoted you (anonymously) at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Isabeau of Bavaria/archive1, near the end. It occurs to me that I may be misrepresenting your advice. Could I trouble you to look in and check that I'm not? No need to comment if you're happy with what I've said, but please say if I have it wrong. Tim riley (talk) 15:04, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- You have it right. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:21, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. Tim riley (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
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This Month in GLAM: May in the UK
Hello Pigsonthewing, I noticed that on the page of the UK of This Month in GLAM there is a section missing and I hope you can full this section (at the bottom). The deadline is in 6 hours, if you need more time, just let me know, it can be moved. Greetings - Romaine (talk) 12:15, 7 June 2013
- Done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:41, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #61
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DYK
Hi, I moved your question to the discussion page.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 21:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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Health
Very sorry indeed to see the temporary header on this page. Best wishes for speedy recovery, and I hope you will be well enough for the ballet bash at Covent Garden next week. Please don't trouble to reply to this. Tim riley (talk) 20:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
- Similarly - hope you're feeling better soon. Hchc2009 (talk) 17:28, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for caring! Andy sent a short email that retina surgery went well but he needs to lay down most of the time for a week and can't edit. I am glad surgery went well. Did you know that he created this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- I had a similar procedure in 2007; you do have to - quite literally - keep your head down for at least a week, and after that, for a great deal of the day for a while longer. It's a BIG deal as far as being able to read or use a computer!!!! Best wishes to Andy for a full recovery! Montanabw 18:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for caring! Andy sent a short email that retina surgery went well but he needs to lay down most of the time for a week and can't edit. I am glad surgery went well. Did you know that he created this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you to you all, and those who have sent good wishes via other means. The surgery, to repair a detached retina, seems to have gone well, but it's too early to know what the long-term outcome will be. I am still effectively immobile for 50 mins in every hour, and so cannot use a keyboard, only my phone. I should be up and about in three or four days, and may be at the Covent Garden event. I may do some minor edits (I have some files to upload) as I return to activity, and will respond to longer debates as soon as I am able, later. Right, that's my ten minute break up... Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
AN/I
Hi Andy, I'm glad to hear your retina surgery went well. I want to make you aware that the discussion you started on AN/I continues. There's an effort to ask Nikkimaria to agree not to follow your and Gerda's contribs, and to ask you and Gerda not to add infoboxes where you can anticipate that the addition will be contentious. If it's still open when you start editing again, I hope you'll comment. The aim is to head off an ArbCom case, which looks likely if this isn't resolved. Many thanks, SlimVirgin 02:19, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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