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:I don't see it as admin abuse. He voluntarily agreed to a restriction and blocks are not really meant to be punitive. And it's not really necessary to seek consensus for an unblock on ANI. There is, of course (!), already a thread about this on ANI so you're welcome to chime in there. (] --] <small>(])</small> 20:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC) :I don't see it as admin abuse. He voluntarily agreed to a restriction and blocks are not really meant to be punitive. And it's not really necessary to seek consensus for an unblock on ANI. There is, of course (!), already a thread about this on ANI so you're welcome to chime in there. (] --] <small>(])</small> 20:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
::Maybe not admin abuse, but saying "okay Spartaz, it's your call" and to then go ahead and unblock anyway is not very classy, don't you agree?--] (]) 09:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC) ::Maybe not admin abuse, but saying "okay Spartaz, it's your call" and to then go ahead and unblock anyway is not very classy, don't you agree?--] (]) 09:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Perhaps :) --] <small>(])</small> 13:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


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Namantar Andolan

I am struggling to keep on top of changes that are being made by a more-or-less SPA at Namantar Andolan, so much so that I've not even found the time to check many of the sources. I've raised one source at RSN - here - but I have more general concerns relating to POV and dealing with them is difficult when I am spending much of my time on that article merely trying to consolidate cites, fix dreadful English, repetition, overly bold claims, probably mangled section organisation/chronology etc. Any chance that you could add it to your watchlist while I try to work my way through things? Or even have a word with the SPA, Bhooshannpy, because I don't know where to start with that: they clearly mean well even if it seems likely that they may not be entirely neutral in their approach. - Sitush (talk) 13:19, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Looks like a good faith editor. Might be better to let them edit and then fix the material at leisure. If it begins to get out of hand, warn him/her and I'll protect the page. Will leave a note on their talk page as well. --regentspark (comment) 15:06, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to come back to this after so long. I am trying and trying to communicate with them and they are not responding. A lot of the stuff is good (or will be when I fettle the phrasing etc) but some of it is trivial and they seem to be on a dalit-inspired mission to document every instance of violence that occurred, everywhere, often using sources that are of dubious reliability. Often, when I've attempted to sort some of this out, they've reinstated but continue not to talk about it. I'm deliberately not tearing into the thing but even so, there are concerns and they are being ignored. Could you perhaps try having another word, starting with "Hello, I'm an administrator here ..." just to see if that catches their eye. - Sitush (talk) 15:30, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I've left a note on their talk page but I doubt it will help. If you think it helps, a series of escalating warnings may be necessary but that would be a shame because the editor is adding at least some useful material. --regentspark (comment) 18:34, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Oh, I agree that they've added some useful stuff and it will be better still when it is fettled. Trying to get them to communicate is thus something of a balancing act but they are going to have to do so at some point because we do not operate in a bubble here & someone else may well be more bite-y than me. And I'm not exactly a Dennis Brown-type diplomat myself. - Sitush (talk) 18:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Doesn't look like they're paying attention to their talk page so not sure what more we can do. Let's wait and see. --regentspark (comment) 18:40, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Also, I'm not really editing a whole lot these days and, a bit like Boing, I see my main role as making sure that editors like you are given the space to work. So, just let me know what you want! --regentspark (comment) 00:35, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
No, it shouldn't work like that. I'd rather muddle through when someone is clearly trying to do The Right Thing, although I can see this one becoming an issue in due course. Which, obviously, is just my opinion and, hey, lots of people will disagree with me. Or, at least, they usually do! - Sitush (talk) 01:19, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Jstor

See, now I am pissed off with you cos you never told me you had access to this. If you have a few moments can you see if this is there Stateless Refugees and the Right to Return: The Bihari Refugees of South Asia I need to know what this paper says about the Mukti Bahini or the Bangladesh liberation war. Darkness Shines (talk) 20:50, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Sure. But in a couple of hours. Have to finish up some work and then get home. --regentspark (comment) 20:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I've looked and it isn't there. International Journal of Refugee Law is hosted by Oxford Journals. There are people at WP:RX who have access to that. - Sitush (talk) 21:03, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Shite, I do not mind begging from those I do know, not about to go asking total strangers for help, I am funny that way sorry . I just needed to know how far a source had been misrepresented. Thanks anyway. Darkness Shines (talk) 21:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I have access to jstor too. Want? --Tito Dutta (contact) 21:26, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict) The regulars at RX are great folks and they're there because they want to help. If I thought that the source has been misrepresented then I'd certainly chance my arm there and, indeed, I use it quite a lot. A lot of them post the result up to the cloud or similar, then you download from that. @Tito: it isn't there, mate. - Sitush (talk) 21:30, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Emailed to you DS. Part 1. Still looking for part 2. --regentspark (comment) 21:30, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Woah! It is there? Does WP's version of JSTOR access differ? - Sitush (talk) 21:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Part 2 sent. No, it isn't on jstor but I have access to oxford journals as well. Par 2 was on something called HeinOnline. (I have access to an excellent library!) --regentspark (comment) 21:35, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Eh, what is not and where? And ya Misplaced Pages RX's JSOTR is different, see here --Tito Dutta (contact) 21:37, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Jstor is different for different users - depends on what subscriptions the user has. --regentspark (comment) 21:40, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
(ecx3)Got it, Tg, sorry Faizan had not misrepresented it, obviously he just went off the abstract and muffed it up. Thanks I can use this in my rewrite off the article. Darkness Shines (talk) 21:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

WMF IRC

Do you know answer of this question: User_talk:Sitush#WMF_IRC? --Tito Dutta (contact) 21:38, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I've indicated my complete ignorance on Sitush's talk page! --regentspark (comment) 21:42, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Why do you want to know? Darkness Shines (talk) 21:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes. Ask DS. The FSB know everything :) --regentspark (comment) 21:50, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
That was mentioned in that INB thread. It is necessary to know who actually own that channel before attempting to revive it! --Tito Dutta (contact) 21:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks (though not really deserved!). --regentspark (comment) 18:56, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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For the article you sent me, thank you. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Anytime DS. Happy to be of help. --regentspark (comment) 12:46, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Just in case you should not notice it. - Sitush (talk) 15:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Commented there. Another busy day at work (to be honest, the busyness involves a three martini lunch so I can't complain!) but should have some time later this evening! --regentspark (comment) 16:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Shaken, not stirred. Which is a reference both to your beverage and the recent shenanigans ;) - Sitush (talk) 17:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Narendra Modi becoming garbage

I guess as you are involved in the article you would not be able to use your admin powers on the article. (Thats my knowledge abt admins, could be wrong.) But for the betterment i have a proposal which i would like you to get it implemented by some or the other way. (a) Keep the article locked for indef. I dont know why it was removed the last time after 24hrs. (b) After being locked, start/continue discussion point wise; meaning propose a statementA, get majority approval and then ask another admin to edit the article. Propose B and so on... Take votes separately and strictly keep chatting to minimum. (c) Most important request would be to somehow bring some order to that talk page. But i dont see how you can do it. EVERY DAMN EDITOR IS FOLLOWING WP:BOLD AND NO OTHER POLICY. I am not gonna name the editors who are being nuisance as you know who they are. Keeping aside the content issues, this page is really getting messy because of the behavioural issues. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 15:12, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I've backed off because of the mess. I have my own thoughts regarding the cause of it and I do foresee some blocks/topic bans etc coming before much longer. There is nothing that RP can do in an admin capacity but there should be some admins watching from the sidelines by now. - Sitush (talk) 15:24, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Agree that the whole thing is a mess. But DD, your repeated postings on ANI are not helping. Anyway, I'm too involved to do anything other than comment on content, and even that I'm trying to do only minimally because it is rather frustrating (I have a brick wall at home that serves the same purpose!). --regentspark (comment) 15:30, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I have not posted anything on Sitush's ANI case since 20th. And today's ANI case was in no way intended to be for this particular article. But somehow people keep dragging the contents all over the Misplaced Pages. I thought the thing would slow down and hence i kept myself away from the article until today. I noticed that Sitush also did. But the case just gotten worse even after we both stopped. (Lets assume here that i was the only one disrupting.) I am again going to be away from the article and wont be back untill atleast the talk page is in a better status. But unless and untill some strict action is taken, there is no way that the condition will improve any soon. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 16:14, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
It's not going to get better soon. Nothing I can do anyway. I could lend you the brick wall though :) --regentspark (comment) 16:16, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Since I have your attention, what's your take on the article? POV tilt in favor of Modi? Against Modi? Just right? --regentspark (comment) 16:19, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Ofcourse you can do it. Find an admin or two who can strict implement these first two points. We need a military regement on that page.
I just said i am going away from that page and you are asking me about it an dragging me again? Thats funny!!! I will answer to that in an email. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 16:40, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
POV tilt in favour. Actually, not so much a tilt as an acute angle. - Sitush (talk) 16:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
DD replied by email. There is no hope :) --regentspark (comment) 17:29, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
No surprise, really. We may as well just let Modi write the damn thing, I'm truly astonished that other experienced contributors seem reluctant to get involved but presume the very common, "Oh, it's about India so no point going there ...". It doesn't seem to matter at which forum the article is mentioned, nor whether the point being raised favours Modi or otherwise. There is more or less complete apathy, and the recriminations will be considerable when they realise that Modi is touted for prime ministerial office and is quite likely to get it. I guess it is another symptom of the US/UK-centricity on en-WP as a whole. - Sitush (talk) 17:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
There is only some thing that you can do about an article. For example there is context tag on this article Chaukul which is of no use. And if you wish to do more, you need to give it some time, especially when there are many big mouths involved. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 18:00, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

YGM

You got mail. Darkness Shines (talk) 22:33, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Seen and replied. (With a compliment!) --regentspark (comment) 23:25, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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A Darkness Shines Question

Look what appeared on my watchlist today: Misplaced Pages:ARBIPA#Standard_discretionary_sanctions. User:Darkness Shines is up to his old tricks and is building his own private list again like he is an admin. This is the same list he put me on earlier this year. Can he do this and get away with it? Who does he think he is? Please look into this and remove any names that are not legitimately on this list. Crtew (talk) 22:34, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

I propose the removal of any warning that says "(Non admin warning)". It's invalid. Crtew (talk) 22:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm not even sure how that list is supposed to be used but, yes, probably only admin-issued warnings should be there. FWIW, I was excluded pretty much by request, so if things are to be fair then my name should be added even though I really, really do not need the templated warning - I've already acknowledged my understanding of it at ANI. - Sitush (talk) 00:21, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Exactly! What is Darkness Shines doing? --Tito Dutta (contact) 00:28, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
He is placing a template warning editors that there are discretionary sanctions on India/Pakistan articles and adding their names to a list here.
(ec)Frankly, this templated warning thing is one that ARBCOM should explicitly ban but it supports it instead. In theory, there is nothing wrong with warning an editor who edits in an area under sanctions since it is purely for informational purposes but, in practice it is used to intimidate and is a big turn-off for content-only editors like Crtew. I'm not sure what to do about this except, perhaps, just automatically pop the template onto the talk page of every editor who edits India/Pakistan pages. I'll ping Salvio on this. (Though, I must say that DS's actions are the first attempt I've seen to break this logjam.) --regentspark (comment) 00:29, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Oh, yes. I'm not questioning the good faith of DS here. And we do not always agree. The outcome, however, might be unintentionally skewed. - Sitush (talk) 00:42, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Other editors like Sitush, RP, Drmies, Faizan, Soham321, MohitSingh, Aurorion, Dwaipayanc and Maunus along with his dozens of IPs, even if are considered to have knowledge of these sanction, should also be included in that list, if at all one wants to be fair. I see that only so-called-anti-muslim-hindu-nationalist-SPAs are picked and enlisted. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 03:57, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Who decides who is on the list and who isn't? And why didn't you suggest your own name? Crtew (talk) 08:30, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
It's placed below my comment. But is this question really for me, Crtew? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 09:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
  • The template makes it clear this is a non admin warning, I modified it. Maunus and Sitush already know about it Drmies does as well, I only notified those who where mentioned at ANI. Arbcom allows non admins to place those warnings, so nothing to do here. Darkness Shines (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
What are you going to do Darkness, list every single user who edits on India or Pakistan? No, so the list is selective, and it's your personal list of warnings, and yet you have no authority to make these judgments. If the warnings are benign as you're suggesting, then how about if I just go on the board and delete every single warning that you posted there. We both know, you would have a tantrum. And I noticed your name wasn't at the top of the list. You could make it a lot easier on everybody by just refraining from assuming powers that you don't hold. Crtew (talk) 08:27, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
I hardly need to be notified about something I already know about. The list is not selective, only those involved in the ANI thread whose names were mentioned were added, posting a notification is not claiming any "power" arbcom has given permission for editors to place these notifications, you can place them, any editor can. Feel free to add me to it if you wish, I am not worried in the least. I placed those notifications per Sal's suggestion at ANI, I have broken no policies nor guidelines. Darkness Shines (talk) 08:35, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
You want it both ways. Yes, I agree it is different from the last time when you were passing yourself off as an admin, but past abuses like that are all the more reason for someone like you to refrain from using banners like this.Crtew (talk) 08:47, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

MrT just deleted all the edits we're talking about, and it is an edit I fully support! Crtew (talk) 08:51, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Stop being deliberately obtuse, I never passed myself off as an admin, I used the template an admin told me to use, you already know this. And there are no past "abuses", perhaps it is high time you stopped and moved on. Darkness Shines (talk) 08:57, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
  • ArbCom are currently trying to review this process, so what I say here might change soon (and is entirely my opinion as an editor), but, in general, warnings are pretty much pro forma. They are not a sanction, cannot be appealed and do not necessarily presuppose actionable disruption: they are merely a way to insure that an editor is aware that, in a given topic area, ArbCom has authorised the imposition of discretionary sanctions, to prevent unpleasant surprises. In this, they are a way to protect editors, not intimidate them (though it's true that they are worded in a way which makes intimidation a likely effect and that should change). For that reason, warnings can be given by anyone (including involved editors) and when an editor is already aware of them (for instance, because he participated in the original ArbCom case which authorised them or has reported other users to AE to have them sanctioned) they are unnecessary. And for that same reason, removing names from the list is pointless: those editors have been notified and, from now onwards, misbehaviour in this topic area can lead to sanctions all the same. Salvio 09:40, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
With all due respect, I disagree with your analysis. I would only point to your own tortured wording (not to mean poorly worded!), but where the banner is both said to be a form of intimidation and also pro forma, a necessary warning and unnecessary/pointless. Why so many contradictions? Not to mention that you didn't even broach the topic of whose names are not on the list, which must be a large number of editors. It seems that those who advocate the listing of people are not on the list at all. Why didn't an admin ever put Darkness Shine's or Dharmadhyaksha's names on the list? (not that I would advocate the listing anybody other than serious violators of policy/rules). The listing looks pretty serious to me and to others. Anyone from outside of Misplaced Pages would not be able to distinguish this from a serious violation. If it walks and quacks like a duck, it should be a duck. Crtew (talk) 09:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
@Crtew, I was on the list. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:02, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Jumping in here (saw this pop up on numerous talk pages I watch)...I really don't see what the big deal is. Maybe I lack sensitivity, so if this does truly bother people, then perhaps something should be altered...but I don't see the harm in notifying or reminding someone that a certain set of articles are under extra strict rules for user conduct. I mean, I couldn't tell you without looking every single topic that's under sanctions, and so I would obviously rather know that I've wandered into a troubled area. And I know that other non-admins here issue the notification. Maybe this has more to do with how people perceive DS than the actions itself? I guess I'm trying to understand what specifically was wrong with the action--is it that people perceive DS to have chosen his "targets" with the intent of winning a content war? Or that they think DS is trying to drive away new editors in general? Or that this is part of some larger pattern of behavior by DS? Note that I'm not actually accusing DS of any of these things; I'm just spitballing to try to understand why people are upset...and try to determine if this is a case of shooting the messenger. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:05, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Qwyrxian, it is because nobody likes me Crtew, Sal already said why I am not on the list "because he participated in the original ArbCom case which authorised them or has reported other users to AE to have them sanctioned" Which I had already said to you, but feel free to add my name to it. Darkness Shines (talk) 10:09, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
More contradictions. His name doesn't have to be on the list for everyone to know that he already knows about it. Crtew (talk) 10:28, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Q. that we all have different sensitivities, but "List of editors placed on notice" sounds punitive to people inside the community and to those who are outside looking inward.

@Qwyrxian: I assume that actions based on these sanctions will be taken on any editor only after they are made aware of it at least once. For eg, i trust that action will be taken on RegentsPark even if he hasn't received any templated message because we know for sure that he is aware of this. So, i my personal objection is that why only our names were placed on the list? If the list has to have any real meaning, all editors who are aware of sanctions, and not just the ones who were notified, should be enlist. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

The list produces more drama than any benefits that it supposed to bring. Sorry, it's "pointless" so it has no benefits. Just drama. Crtew (talk) 10:28, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
It isn't pointless: sanctions cannot be applied unless the person was previously made aware of them and keeping track of that notification can be troublesome because talk pages get deleted and/or archived. I've just added myself to the list. - Sitush (talk) 10:32, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict)The list is useful to determine when a person was notified, without having to waste time hunting for the correct diff. Apart from that, it's entirely useless, I agree (which is why I did not add a specific list here). That said, this is a tempest in a teapot. Various editors have been notified that if they misbehave in a given topic they may be sanctioned; they haven't been sanctioned yet and they may never be sanctioned at all. That should have been the end of it for the moment; I don't understand why there is so much general pugnacity about this... Salvio 10:37, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

1. If it's so innocent, then delete the word "placed" and "on notice" and create an acknowledgement list with wording that is truly more descriptive of its informative purpose! Crtew (talk) 12:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC) 2. Then rethink the banner language, too. And don't give editors the right to use it like it's some form of punishment that they can dole out. Crtew (talk) 12:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Crtew. "Placed on notice" does sound punitive. Perhaps "List of editors who are aware of these sanctions". Then we can add everyone to this list with no issues. --regentspark (comment) 13:32, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps "List of editors aware of the sanctions" along with a note that any editor can notify any other editor and add them to this list, or editors can add themselves if they're aware of the sanctions. --regentspark (comment) 13:49, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Comment: I've added myself to the list following the excellent example set by Sitush. In my opinion, there is only one editor who needs reminding of the sanctions. I'm involved so I won't do that but I think it is unfortunate that the admin corps is ignoring this mess and focusing on well meaning, if cranky, editors like Maunus instead. --regentspark (comment) 12:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

If you mean me as the one editor I just added myself to try and stop all this stupid dramamongering, if someone else let me know, I can't get any deeper into the poop. Darkness Shines (talk) 12:38, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
I don't mean you DarknessS. I'd tell you if I thought you were doing something wrong. --regentspark (comment) 12:43, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I know what you all three are doing by placing yourselves on the list is meant well and admirable! The skeptic in me, however, can't resist observing that all placed "not because I've done anything to warrant notification" next to their names ;-) Is that necessary? (I ask rhetorically) Crtew (talk) 13:37, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

You're right and I've modified mine. --regentspark (comment) 14:03, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem RfC

Hi RegentsPark! It just occurred to me that you might not know yet that the Jerusalem RfC has now started. It's been open for almost a week, and has already generated a sizeable amount of text. If you want to follow the proceedings, it's at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Jerusalem. Thank you for agreeing to close it. :) Best — Mr. Stradivarius 11:41, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I've been following along, silently :) --regentspark (comment) 13:09, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Advice

What's the best course of action for dealing with this? This user is forcing an absolutely meaningless change in without even bothering to justify it, and with an edit summary which paraphrases to "don't revert me and I won't revert you". Thanks, CMD (talk) 23:15, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Left a note on their talk page. Looks like a good faith edit to me but probably better discussed. --regentspark (comment) 23:29, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm not allowed on their talkpage, or I would have discussed there. CMD (talk) 23:41, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay, since they apparently are reverting because they're getting the notification, rather than because of the edit itself, I've not linked their username. I assume that's how the new interface works. CMD (talk) 08:59, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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You just replied to, and thanked a bot, yet people say I am batshit crazy Darkness Shines (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Be nice to bots. They're going to rule the world! --regentspark (comment) 18:22, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
We already do human. Beep. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:28, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
You're a bot? Nothing to worry about then. We humans are safe. :) --regentspark (comment) 19:02, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
perfectly safe. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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Minorities in Pakistan a honest request for help

Hi Reagentspark can you take a look at Minorities in Pakistan I have taken a glance at the lead paragraph of the article and it contains some major major pov sentences containing "tyranny" and "massacres" all added by a known pov pusher it has become a pov hell hole could you at least clean up the lead a bit? I also had one last question if someone creates an article and certain people do not like it due to there nationalist views should the creator be banned? Futureperf (an admin) seems to be hell bent on banning a user Darknesshines for creating a decent article which has some pov issues but not the scale of minorities in Pakistan thanks a bunch 31.54.56.16 (talk) 08:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Interesting, the blocked IP(a sock) had the same concern.-sarvajna (talk) 08:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
RP please just take a look at the article and ignore the tag teaming from Mrt and his crony sarvajna this is a serious issue and not about nationalism any more 31.54.56.16 (talk) 08:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

In case Anti-Muslim pogroms in India is not on your watchlist. I just responded to your accusation of OR. Darkness Shines (talk) 20:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

RP, I would appreciate you strikeing your comment here as the source used does say pogroms. Darkness Shines (talk) 12:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Struck. --regentspark (comment) 13:10, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for unblocking me.

Mr T 14:01, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Why is twinkle wikilove working like this? I thought the gift would be a little more glossy but instead what I am left with is just an image and some scribble. Mr T 14:45, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
I'll take the image and the scribble Mrt, thanks. --regentspark (comment) 15:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Are you watching Mahatma Gandhi? When did Mohandas Karamchand GandhiMahatma Gandhi happen? Where was I. Shit. Mr T 15:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Here. --regentspark (comment) 15:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 12 June 2013

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WP:AN

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. As you took part in the KW topic ban. Dennis Brown / / © / @ 15:49, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring

See this large-scale undiscussed removal of content. I don't have the necessary patience nor do I know the proper way to deal with this kind of edits without unilateral reversion. To me, it looks like vandalism but what do I know, as they say, I am just a surly rustic hillbilly. If I revert it, it will be framed as an edit war and then I will be blocked. Kindly take necessary steps. Warn him or block him do whatever an admin is supposed to do in these situations. Mr T 18:37, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

It goes on. Mr T 18:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

WTF?

We just discussed this and I objected to unblock and you just went ahead and did it. Please reblock and seek a consensus at ANI. This is admin abuse and I am absolutely livid. Spartaz 18:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't see it as admin abuse. He voluntarily agreed to a restriction and blocks are not really meant to be punitive. And it's not really necessary to seek consensus for an unblock on ANI. There is, of course (!), already a thread about this on ANI so you're welcome to chime in there. (ANI thread --regentspark (comment) 20:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Maybe not admin abuse, but saying "okay Spartaz, it's your call" and to then go ahead and unblock anyway is not very classy, don't you agree?--Atlan (talk) 09:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps :) --regentspark (comment) 13:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Discussion of your unblock of Darkness Shines

Information icon Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Gamaliel (talk) 18:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Commented there. --regentspark (comment) 19:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Was it too quiet and peaceful? Crtew (talk) 23:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Yup. You know. Summer days. Warm, humid, nothing going on, and too early for g&ts! --regentspark (comment) 23:56, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Udaipur Airport - RM

Dear RegentsPark, It would be very nice if you can visit Talk:Udaipur Airport and express your further view on requested move. Regards. - Jethwarp (talk) 06:08, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

commented. --regentspark (comment) 13:42, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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