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Hi Carol, something here you might be interested in. Best, SlimVirgin 00:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
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User:KhabarNegar
I'm considering taking User:KhabarNegar to WP:ANB/I for a block on the basis he lacks the social skills and competence to contribute.
He was taken to WP:DRN from his behavior on Sanctions_Against_Iran, the result is here. They refused/recommended WP:RFC/U or WP:ANB/I. Every edit he disagrees with is harassment, trolling, vandalism. He does not participate coherently in the talk page. He is incapable of understanding basic concepts like the difference between an opinion piece and a news article (eg here). He introduces copyvio's into articles. He's got so far as to edit war over over archival, apparently not understanding what it actually does (edit war and confusion). I took specific opinion-piece-supported passages to a RfC and he obliged but continues edit warring over similar usages of one of the articles which is also a copyvio (article history).
Anything to add? Is WP:ANB/I appropriate? Any other comments/suggestions? TippyGoomba (talk) 05:55, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- WP:ANI faster and can lead to better results. And the DRN did mention it as an option. RfC user probably won't help.
- In either case, I'll add a few specific diffs/issues in exactly the same vein. Would do it myself but have been there too often lately on other issues. NPGuy needs to be contacted too; he and I may have different POV on nuke issues, but he's a reasonable editor. Still waiting to see if thunderstorms will zap my connection and/or the power... CarolMooreDC - talkie talkie🗽 05:56, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
- There's no rush. I still wouldn't mind seeing if he stops participating in the talk when I stop edit warring with him. Let me know when you want to move things forward. TippyGoomba (talk) 01:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- We can always think positive thoughts :-) Really frustrated today in general by WP. CarolMooreDC - talkie talkie🗽 02:04, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I'm ready to take him there. It's obvious nothing productive can happen the talk page, he's totally incomprehensible and ignores discussion totally unless his preferred version of the article is reverted. I'll redraft my post above, adding in my recent interactions with him and possibly a few more older diffs. Are there any diffs you would like to provide before we proceed? TippyGoomba (talk) 19:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Probably best I add mine directly after you, so it's clear it's a second person. But have to run out now for couple hours. I don't think it matters if he responds first. But will do by 8 PM EST in any case, if you get it up before then. CarolMooreDC - talkie talkie🗽 19:40, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- I saved you a seat here, hope you don't mind :) TippyGoomba (talk) 20:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Probably best I add mine directly after you, so it's clear it's a second person. But have to run out now for couple hours. I don't think it matters if he responds first. But will do by 8 PM EST in any case, if you get it up before then. CarolMooreDC - talkie talkie🗽 19:40, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, I'm ready to take him there. It's obvious nothing productive can happen the talk page, he's totally incomprehensible and ignores discussion totally unless his preferred version of the article is reverted. I'll redraft my post above, adding in my recent interactions with him and possibly a few more older diffs. Are there any diffs you would like to provide before we proceed? TippyGoomba (talk) 19:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- We can always think positive thoughts :-) Really frustrated today in general by WP. CarolMooreDC - talkie talkie🗽 02:04, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- There's no rush. I still wouldn't mind seeing if he stops participating in the talk when I stop edit warring with him. Let me know when you want to move things forward. TippyGoomba (talk) 01:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
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SPECIFICO talk 03:13, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
- Per this diff - There was no 3rr. And one revert of material no one has touched before is not edit warring. So it's really WP:BRD - and you skipped the discussion part, as you so often do. (The past removal by two editors of the Milton Friedman sentence which you did discuss and is now at WP:BLP is not related to this edit.) Please read policy more carefully.
- Moreover, if one believes a newer source is more accurate in WP:BLP it's a perfectly fine edit. Now I have put back your explicit mention of remarks in Moscow despite it being less credible. See edit. If you remove a second time accurate info that makes it clear what his views are now (whatever they were in 2001), you are in an edit war.
- Also see removing or putting back material that is in line with BLP policy, including regarding Misplaced Pages:BLP#Balance of positive material and criticism.
- Also note per various edits of yours, quoting WP:BRD, "If one skips the Discussion part, then restoring one's edit is a hostile act of edit warring and is not only uncollaborative, but could incur sanctions, such as a temporary block." And I've noted several cases on several articles where you have done problematic edits of materials others have reverted without bothering to respond on the talk page. I've also commented on this on talk pages, regarding policy quoted above; next time I'll quote it on the article talk page too. CarolMooreDC - talkie talkie🗽 03:18, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
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Suggest resolved template for POV NB post
No recent comments have been posted at WP:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Repeated_POV_soapboxing. Indeed, there has been no editing by S for 2 weeks. Suggest you tag the Noticeboard as {{resolved}}. – S. Rich (talk) 14:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
- Soapboxing is resolved. NPOVN of second section isn't. I'll let it run whatever is the usual course. CarolMooreDC - talkie talkie🗽 16:40, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
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Harej (talk) 15:29, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
RFC
Thank you for your comments, and your feedback regarding the RFC. I particularly appreciate your objectivity in light of the ANI report I made against you recently (which you might not even have put together I suppose!). I'm sure that we will run into each other in the future, and I hope that we can grow into a good working relationship. BTW, Specifico and srich, etc are heavily involved in this debate (opposing), so be prepared for the same issues you have encountered elsewhere. Gaijin42 (talk) 17:14, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for reminding me. I'll change my vote... ha ha ha... You do have me curious though and will have to check. Obviously I have a very thick skin or wouldn't have last 25,000 edits over 7 years. :-) CarolMooreDC - talk to me🗽 17:27, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Warned ya! ;) Gaijin42 (talk) 02:17, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- Please don't align me with any particular editor (or POV). My contributions, I believe, are even-handed. If you have a beef with particular edits that I make, be so kind as to address them specifically. – S. Rich (talk) 02:20, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- Apologies, I actually do not have a beef with you particularly, nor your edits - just noting the nexus where certain editors interact together tends to cause strife. You are not involved in the gun control article as far as I am aware, but I do see you often interacting (but not necessarily in concert) with specifico, and so your name popped to mind. Thank you for reminding me to WP:AGF. I have struck your name from above. Gaijin42 (talk) 02:31, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- Give specifico a chance. I've seen them to be a thinker. Even though they are wrong whenever they disagree with me. :-) North8000 (talk) 02:36, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- Apologies, I actually do not have a beef with you particularly, nor your edits - just noting the nexus where certain editors interact together tends to cause strife. You are not involved in the gun control article as far as I am aware, but I do see you often interacting (but not necessarily in concert) with specifico, and so your name popped to mind. Thank you for reminding me to WP:AGF. I have struck your name from above. Gaijin42 (talk) 02:31, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- FYI, I didn't even notice mentioning of names since too busy wondering what the ANI was, which I didn't find. (Have a feeling it was the canvassing on the Gendergap list?) Obviously better not to talk about others, unless they severely are violating policies and one is trying to figure out what to do. CarolMooreDC - talk to me🗽 02:39, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it was the gendergap canvass, it was closed before you even responded I believe. Gaijin42 (talk) 02:43, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- I confess, when I saw that it closed before I even saw it, I LMAO... :-) CarolMooreDC - talk to me🗽 02:48, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
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