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Nomination of Hansard of the Sarawak for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hansard of the Sarawak is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hansard of the Sarawak until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. CMD (talk) 10:31, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Omdo,

It seems that some of your hard work is being put out. It also seems like some of your work/stubs {pages such as "Hansard Sarawak"} warrants guarding, but (IMHO) need some more details and labor.

Pages lost pretty quickly on wikipedia, mostly due to spammers who add fake[REDACTED] details, and some "contributors" do not know where Malaysia is.

Perhaps you do me a favor and develop "Hansard Sarawak" to reflect what goes with parliment in Sarawak since independence? I notis Hansard appears in the print media often enough.

OK? Leng T'che (talk) 09:46, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Sabah-stub

Template:Sabah-stub has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. — иz нίpнόp 14:50, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Sarawak-stub

Template:Sarawak-stub has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. — иz нίpнόp 14:51, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Category:Template:Sarawak-stub

Category:Template:Sarawak-stub, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Ego White Tray (talk) 03:01, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Sultan Sulu territory

What is your basis behind adding Labuan and the western part of the territory in the North Borneo dispute, those area was undisputedly Brunei's territory which has been ceded to the British North Borneo Company. Stop your disruptive editing. --Danazach (talk) 05:13, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Please explain your basis here. Yhe territory in dispute is the eastern part of Sabah, even when Sabah was still considered as North Borneo, it is just the eastern part of North Borneo. The western part including Labuan (which you have included) has always been known to be the Sultan of Brunei territory. --Danazach (talk) 10:31, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Danazach. I think you should read more about that here. Only the eastern part been given by the Sultanate of Brunei to the Sultanate of Sulu. — иz нίpнόp 17:47, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

List of irredentist claims or disputes

Hello! Can you explain your edit to the List of irredentist claims or disputes article regarding the Philippine claim to North Borneo? Why do you think it is of irredentist nature? Not all territorial disputes can be called irredentism. Xeltran (talk) 13:23, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

See Irredentism - Omdo (talk) 13:37, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Point taken. Let me revise it a bit. Xeltran (talk) 13:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

I do not understand the context of your edit here, especially the part where it says The Philippines claims, either directly the territory through the heritage of the Sultanate of Sulu. Either directly or indirectly? From a grammar standpoint, it is very confusing. The wikilink to the article about the North Borneo dispute is already given for convenience. Xeltran (talk) 18:43, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

it's legal phrase, See Manila Accord -Omdo (talk)

Where exactly? Nothing in the Accord has that verbatim version of the text. On the contrary, the word group "The Philippines claims the territory through the heritage of the Sultanate of Sulu" is, I believe, an acceptable and correct sentence when paraphrased from the Accord that says "...is subject to the final outcome of the Philippine claim to North Borneo" and from the text of the accompanying sources in the North Borneo dispute article. Xeltran (talk) 19:15, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

North Borneo dispute

I would like to refer you to the a thread I made at Talk:North_Borneo_dispute#.22Etymology.22_section regarding the section on "Etymology" that you re-included in the North Borneo dispute article. It would be helpful if you explain your edits as I have raised a few points of contention in the article's talk page. Kindly share your views there. Thanks. Xeltran (talk) 18:34, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Reported to WP:AN/I

Hi,

Just to let you know I've notified WP:AN/I because you're WP:CFORKing on WP:CONTROVERSY contentious issues and may be WP:POVPUSHing.

Please pay attention to what everyone else tells you - otherwise you will be slapped with a ban. Barney the barney barney (talk) 13:08, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Disputed status of North Borneo

Hello Omdo,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Disputed status of North Borneo for deletion, because it appears to duplicate an existing Misplaced Pages article, ].

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Barney the barney barney (talk) 13:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

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The formation of Malaysia

The formation of Malaysia, which you just created is an unattributed copy/paste of content from the history of 20-point agreement. This is a WP:CONTENTFORK. The article History of malaysia#Towards Malaysia already covers these events. If you are trying to create a new article, then please remove the copy/pasted content and add some original content to the article. As it stands, the only thing I can see to do with it is redirect to History of malaysia#Towards Malaysia. If you intend to keep any of the material you copied and pasted in the article, then please give it proper attribution. See Misplaced Pages:Copying within Misplaced Pages. Unattributed content will be removed as a WP:COPYVIO. Thanks. Begoon  08:08, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Could I have an update on this? Did you intend to attribute the WP:COPYVIO content properly, or should I remove it? I notice you have tried to expand the article, so perhaps it would be best just to remove the copy/paste stuff and then what remains can be assessed without the distraction of the copyvio. Let me know what you think. You could also comment at Talk:History of Malaysia#Proposed merge of any suitable content from The formation of Malaysia if you wanted to give your views on the merge/redirect that is being discussed. Cheers. Begoon  03:45, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok - well just to update you, I've commented at Talk:History of Malaysia#Proposed merge of any suitable content from The formation of Malaysia to the effect that I'm going to go ahead and redirect the article tomorrow. The WP:COPYVIO content cannot be left indefinitely, and without it (or with it), the "article" is just duplication of material covered better at History of malaysia#Towards Malaysia. If you want a different outcome, I urge you to comment there, because if you don't respond, your views cannot be taken into account. Thanks. Begoon  03:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Sarawak Sovereignty Movement logo

I have created and uploaded a fair-use image at en.wikipedia: File:Sarawak_Sovereignty_Movement_logo.jpg. I have replaced the image in the article.

The original copyvio file is no longer required and has been nominated for deletion at Commons. This was a fair amount of work for me to need to do because the logo was incorrectly licensed.

In future, please follow correct licensing procedures or seek advice (from me, or from an administrator, if you like, or at Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions if you prefer) if you have other such images to upload, so as to avoid creating unnecessary work for other editors. Thanks. Begoon  06:23, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Communication

Omdo, I have tried to communicate with you many times now concerning the COPYVIO/content fork you made at the formation of Malaysia above. You have not responded once. You have also made no attempt yourself to fix the copyright issues or the lack of any content not already covered by our existing article. Your edit summaries never contain an explanation of your edits, and you never communicate on talk pages. If you don't communicate then it is impossible to take your point of view into account. I'm undoing your latest revert. Please don't revert again without joining the discussion at Talk:History of Malaysia#Proposed merge of any suitable content from The formation of Malaysia.

I've tried to help you, for example by improving your poor English grammar for you in several articles, and by uploading correctly licensed versions of images for you, so that they are not just deleted, but if you don't join in discussions then that's not very easy. We write[REDACTED] collaboratively, not in little groups of one person, and your refusal to participate in collaboration makes life very difficult for others.

If you were prepared to collaborate with other editors such as myself to create a proper, good article at that location, incorporating material from History of Malaysia, and ensuring that all relevant material and viewpoints are properly represented - including the ones you would like to see represented, and copyright procedures followed properly, then I, and I'm sure other editors, would be very pleased to work with you on it, as you obviously have much good knowledge to share on the subject. Begoon  22:59, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

OK - well, I genuinely have tried to be fair to you. I see you have now undone the revert again, without any discussion of the above points. I asked a respected Administrator, Dennis Brown, for advice on what to do about this situation. You can read the discussion here: User talk:Dennis Brown#Advice. As you will see, his advice was that I should make a report at WP:ANI recommending you be blocked until you agree to edit collaboratively. I really don't want to do that, but unless you engage in discussion I can see no remaining options. Begoon  00:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

I moved your message there, and replied... Begoon  01:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

ANI discussion

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

The thread is here Begoon  02:15, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You should also note that removing maintenance tags from an article without resolving the issue is disruptive, especially when done repeatedly, and you are now edit warring on the article by removing them again. Please replace the tags until discussion is completed. Thanks. Begoon  02:48, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

sorry no time, regards Omdo (talk) 05:26, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

If you continue this same pattern of coatracking and failing to communicate, you will be blocked. If you have to time to make mistakes, you have time to discuss them. I'm not likely to warn again. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 11:18, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

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Nomination of The formation of Malaysia for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The formation of Malaysia is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The formation of Malaysia until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Begoon  22:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Copyright violation

The formation of Malaysia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

With this edit you introduced the following text:

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The content available at http://www.theborneopost.com/2011/09/16/formation-of-malaysia/ contains the following text:

This is an obvious copyright violation - see WP:COPYVIO. Please rectify it, noting that Even inserting text copied with some changes can be a copyright violation if there's substantial linguistic similarity in creative language or structure (this can also raise problems of plagiarism). Such a situation should be treated seriously, as copyright violations not only harm Misplaced Pages's redistributability, but also create legal issues., so merely adding a citation is not sufficient. Please also check whether you have copied text from elsewhere in this fashion in any of your other contributions, and remove any infringements you might find. If you need help fixing these issues, or explanations, please ask.

I also note that you have yet to respond to the copyvio discussions above regarding copy/pastes within Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages takes copyright matters very seriously, so it would be appreciated if you could attend to these matters quickly. Thank you. Begoon  06:26, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

adding: As part of examining contributions, it may help you to look at the following duplication detector report: link to full duplication detector report

The report contains the following matches from https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2012/07/02/cobbold-commission-report-and-the-formation-of-malaysia/ :

"Matched phrases:

early in world war ii in the united states insisted that great britain upholds its integrity that led to the joint declaration by franklin d roosevelt and winston churchill

of political social economic or educational the united states insisted that great britain upholds its integrity that led to the joint declaration by president roosevelt and sir winston churchill

(17 words, 104 characters)

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the territory of the proposed north borneo meanwhile the political situations in north borneo and sarawak had had entirely a different undertone british north borneo sabah and labuan sarawak

of the federation of malaya tunku abdul meanwhile the political situations in north borneo and sarawak had had entirely a different undertone the north borneo federation or kalimantan utara

(15 words, 101 characters)

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the eight principal points of the charter no territorial gains were to be sought by the united states or the united kingdom territorial adjustments must be in accord with

aug 14 1941 called the atlantic charter no territorial gains were to be sought by the united states or the united kingdom b territorial adjustments must be in accord

(15 words, 81 characters)

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sought by the united states or the united territorial adjustments must be in accord with the wishes of the peoples concerned all people had a right to self determination

by the united states or the united kingdom territorial adjustments must be in accord with the wishes of the peoples concerned c all people had right to self determination

(13 words, 82 characters)

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united nations with the purpose of monitoring implementation of the declaration on the granting of independence to colonial countries and peoples and to make recommendations on its application the committee

960 the united nations general assembly had had adopted the declaration on the granting of independence to colonial countries and peoples resolution 1514 declared that all territories that have not

(12 words, 81 characters)

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the governments of sarawak north borneo and the state of brunei called for the abandonment of the malayan dollar and adopt a common currency of their own singapore entered formation

a competitive proposition the governments of sarawak north borneo and brunei called for the abandonment of the malayan dollar and a valuation of a common currency of their own which

(10 words, 59 characters)

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self governing state by sir william allmond codrington goode and who also became its first yang di pertuan negara hereinafter on june 5 1959 lee kuan yew to form

a self governing state by its governor sir william goode who also became its first yang di pertuan negara on june 5 1959 he sworn in the new government

(9 words, 48 characters)"

Now, possibly you copied these phrases from other[REDACTED] articles without attribution, or possibly they came from the freemalaysiatoday article, but either way there is no attribution, and the content needs to be attended to. I am very concerned that this 'article' seems to be riddled with copy/paste violations like this, and your response would be appreciated so that the issues may be corrected. Thanks. Begoon  09:36, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

• Omdo, I noticed that you added an external link to this document in the external links. This is NOT an acceptable way to deal with copyright infringement in any way shape or form. You need to either address the issue here and now, or you force me to block you here and now. You have been warned more than enough times. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 15:27, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

One more from today

This: your addition today:

truly believed in the possibility of a world governed by democratic processes,with an international organization serving as an arbiter of disputes and protector of the peace.

From: http://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/democrac/53.htm ?

truly believed in the possibility of a world governed by democratic processes, with an international organization serving as an arbiter of disputes and protector of the peace.

Begoon  05:19, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

• I've tried to communicate with you more than once, and Begoon has shown themselves to be extraordinarily patient, but this has gone too far. Copyright is a serious issue at Misplaced Pages, and violating copyright is violating the law and putting the Foundation itself in harms way. Your contributions are forcing another editor to have to police your edits, making it a terribly inefficient and frustrating experience for them as well. There is no wiggle room when it comes to this, either you will comply with our copyright policies or you will not be allowed to edit here. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 00:39, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

• I see you have been evading your block using 180.253.140.171 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). I've increased the block to 10 days from today. If you continue to evade your block by using IPs instead of logging in, refusing to even acknowledge the issues presented, you will continue to be blocked. Your best bet is to stop evading the block, talk here, address the problems, and wait out the block. Otherwise, you will simply be prevented from ever editing. I would rather it doesn't come to that. Dennis Brown / 2¢ / © / @ 23:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

• Omdo, please note that I have added {{copypaste}} tags to The formation of Malaysia to assist you in addressing these problems when you return. You can see the copy/pasted text by clicking the (Duplicate Detector Report) link in each respective tag. I hope you will find that helpful. Again, if you need any help fixing these problems, or any related issues you may be aware of, please ask, as I understand you might find it a large task to rectify on your own. Thanks. Begoon  14:55, 22 June 2013 (UTC)