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Help desk

Here is a help desk question that's calling your name. Haha. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 17:33, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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Boart Longyear page revisions

Hi Orange Mike - I see you changed the Boart Longyear page back to its original version. I work with the company and am simply trying to correct some things in the timeline. We tried to take a very unbiased, fact-based, historical approach when creating the timeline, so if there is a particular area that you felt came across as promotional, please let me know, and I can soften the language. Also, we'd like to upload the approved corporate logo, if possible, but we're not autoconfirmed. Perhaps you could help us with that. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnkrantz123 (talk • contribs)

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Thanks for the feedback, Mike. I understand Wiki is pretty strict about those who have a relationship to the organization being written about, but the purpose of making these changes was to correct factual errors in the timeline and to correct the issues outlined at the top of the page, where it says "This article has multiple issues." I believe the version you restored is actually quite a bit more promotional than the version I attempted to publish. Is there a third party editor or someone you can direct us to that would work with us to correct these problems? We just want to make sure the correct information is getting out there and that it is unique to what is already out there on the web. I have no intentions of creating advertorial or promotional content, and I am happy to remove any portions that you deem so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnkrantz123 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Three things that led to a rejection:

"world's leading provider"

The timeline, written in present tense, replacing the narrative written in past tense.

The bullet-list-style "awards" section, again replacing a narrative.

This discussion should have taken place before you started to edit; and it should take place on the talk page of the article. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:52, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Mike. If I change the present tense to past, delete "world's leading" and remove the awards section, will my edits be acceptable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnkrantz123 (talk • contribs) 20:01, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I repeat, let's take this to Talk:Boart Longyear. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:38, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Nevada Legislators database

Hi-I just came across the Nevada Legislature database for their legislators. Yeah! Thanks!RFD (talk) 23:50, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Yay, indeed! What's the URL? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:28, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

User:WACorporate

Hi, Orangemike this user has made large changes to WebAssign corporation article. I posted on his talk page but thought something should be done. Capitalismojo (talk) 12:50, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

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Migdia Chinea Varela

Thank you for bringing this issue to the attention of the BLP noticeboard. Please do not have any further contact with Migdia Chinea Varela, including posting on her talk page. This is not an endorsement of her accusations, it is just that your presence will only serve to inflame passions in this matter, and thanks to your bringing this issue to the noticeboard, there are plenty of editors who can handle it now. Gamaliel (talk) 15:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Sounds very sensible, as she has in fact clearly taken a scunner to me (as they say in the North). --Orange Mike | Talk 18:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

In addition, may I ask, Orangemike, why you reverted unsourced contentious material back into a biography of a living person? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I was reverting all of her COI edits first, on the principle that some other editor(s) such as yourselves could then go through and see what should stay and what should go; which is what is now going on. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I would suggest you don't do things like that in future. COI does not overrule BLP. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, OM

I saw the changes you made to the barbeque claims at Lexington, Tennessee. I commented on your edit in the help desk discussion. Thanks! --76.189.109.155 (talk) 03:22, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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User creating article about themself

All help desk items like this should automatically be sent to you. ;) --76.189.109.155 (talk) 20:42, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Update: Apparently, he's just talking about creating an account for himself because the article about him was created in 2008. However, he did say, "I will continue to add content to my page", which I assume means the article. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 20:46, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

However, let's AGF here: maybe he means creating a good solid revelatory userpage! --Orange Mike | Talk 21:12, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

I considered that for a moment, but I still "assume" (with no ill intent whatsoever) that he is in fact talking about the article. It's likely that he has no idea about COI, so thanks for putting that note on his talk page! --76.189.109.155 (talk) 21:19, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Because you are so well known for your great work dealing with possible COI accounts, I think you should change your user name to KingCOI. Haha. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 21:22, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Wow, shows you how confused I am... it's not even the same person; just the same name. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 22:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Suburban Express

Hey Orange. IPs from the company are editing the page again against consensus. Given the controversy itself is about them barraging Reddit with anonymous accounts (and similar behavior shown repeatedly here), it seems like it should be semi-protected. I wasn't sure how it came to pass that it is no longer protected at all! CorporateM (Talk) 21:34, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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Rape and pregnancy controversies in United States elections, 2012

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North American Union

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ETF Securities

PR editor disclosed and used Request Edit, but the content they suggested included stuff like "believed to be the world’s most comprehensive range of exchange-traded commodities." They provided quality sources so I was going to just whip up a quick article, until I realized the sources appear to have been cherry-picked and became de-motivated.

After their disclosed, Talk page approach was ineffective, they have now been edit-warring with me as they attempt to insert blatantly promotional material with trademark symbols and the whole nine yards, both from an IP and from the PR username. I was curious if we could block them or protect the article yet? Or does it have to escalate further?

I find it frustrating that every time I try to "help" a PR person, I end up regretting it and that I have to spend my time fighting off spam and astroturf. CorporateM (Talk) 13:06, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

As I've said before, I fear there is something about the PR trade which deadens the critical faculties necessary to distinguish between legitimate writing and PR garbage (I've been known to use harsher terms than that). --Orange Mike | Talk 14:57, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

It is confusing to PRs as to whether they are required to cover the negative aspects to be a responsible contributor, because we have different expectations than other influencers and those expectations are not made clear in WP:COI.

It is true that many PRs (including myself not so long ago) have a hard time distinguishing between promotion and encyclopedic copy, but part of the difficulty in addressing the issue is that no statement can be said that accurately applies to every case, so they must be handled individually. CorporateM (Talk) 16:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

I noticed your comment about a COI-thanks template. Don't you think it should be a barnstar? I bet it would only take a few minutes to whip it up. CorporateM (Talk) 19:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Maybe I'm a big ol' meanie, but I don't want to award barnstars to COI editors, however well-behaved. To me, they are reserved for people who improve this project because they choose to do so, to make Misplaced Pages and kindred projects better places. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:39, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh, but Misplaced Pages is full of meanies, so you fit right in ;-)

I suppose a journalist would thank a PR person for doing their job well, but not necessarily award them. I'll whip up a quick Talk page template.

BTW, I'm still working on the other template for article talk pages CorporateM (Talk) 21:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

How's this? I'm not sure how to add a parameter for the article in-question.

Template:COI-thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorporateM (talk • contribs)

Looks good; and of course, I am fond of the use of lauri in this kind of commendatory context. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:25, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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A bit of a preemptive ban?

User PHI Comms came onto Misplaced Pages, disclosed who he is, and wants to update their not-for-profit medical research organization's Misplaced Pages page. So far they haven't made any edits. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to instruct them to refrain from editing their page(other than correcting dates/obvious facts) and to make suggestions to talk page instead of banning them?AioftheStorm (talk) 19:48, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Another help desk issue for you - St. Johns County, Florida

Mike, a communications/PR person hired by St. Johns County, Florida, posted these comments at the help desk. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 20:21, 28 June 2013 (UTC)