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== Problems with editing ==

As far as I can see, there are two ways to interpret your edit summary . (1) You really meant what you said, or (2) you didn't, and actually know perfectly well what the other editor is talking about. In case 2, you are trolling, while in case 1, you are so completely blind to the nature of what you have been doing that you clearly lack the ] to edit collaboratively, which is a ''requirement'' for being a Misplaced Pages editor, not an option. Your recent posts on my talk page about Gobbleygook led me to look at various pieces of editing history, in which I saw that you consistently exhibit incivility, assumptions of bad faith, and a general ], and that you frequently make accusations against other editors without providing evidence. I decided not to get involved, because the whole business of dealing with editors with belligerent and aggressive attitudes is one of the aspects of Misplaced Pages that I find really unpleasant, and that I prefer to avoid. However, as you know, another editor has consulted me for a third opinion, in response to which you have made further posts, and I felt that I should at least look into it. As a result, I have seen yet further, and worse, examples of your belligerent approach to other editors, your persistent incivility to anyone you disagree with, your unsubstantiated accusations, and also strange statements such as the one I posted at the start of this message, which, as I have already explained, is either disingenuous or else an indication that the problems with your editing will never be stopped, because you are sincerely unable to see them. I also see that you have a fairly long block record, and that some of the blocks were for matters related to the issues under consideration here. As I have already said, this is not the sort of issue in which I like to get involved, but I have been brought into it, initially by your posting on my talk page and subsequently by another editor's asking for help. Your approach to other editors that you disagree with are are totally inconsistent with Misplaced Pages's requirements, and are likely to lead to an extended block if they continue. The most important steps that you can take to avoid that block are (1) be civil to other editors, even when you think they don't deserve civility, (2) assume good faith unless and until there is sound evidence that you can cite to show others that there are substantial grounds for bad faith. Finally, one quite different point. If I see any more edit warring from you I will block for a substantial period without further warning. You don't need any explanation or any more warning about this: you have been blocked six times for edit warring, the first time just over six years ago, in addition to other times when you have been allowed to get away with edit warring. It is now time to convey the message that edit warring is ''unacceptable,'' not just that it's something that you can do as much as you like provided that you are willing to accept the risk of an occasional break from Misplaced Pages for a few days or a week or two. ] (]) 20:22, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

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Problems with editing

As far as I can see, there are two ways to interpret your edit summary here. (1) You really meant what you said, or (2) you didn't, and actually know perfectly well what the other editor is talking about. In case 2, you are trolling, while in case 1, you are so completely blind to the nature of what you have been doing that you clearly lack the competence to edit collaboratively, which is a requirement for being a Misplaced Pages editor, not an option. Your recent posts on my talk page about Gobbleygook led me to look at various pieces of editing history, in which I saw that you consistently exhibit incivility, assumptions of bad faith, and a general battleground mentality, and that you frequently make accusations against other editors without providing evidence. I decided not to get involved, because the whole business of dealing with editors with belligerent and aggressive attitudes is one of the aspects of Misplaced Pages that I find really unpleasant, and that I prefer to avoid. However, as you know, another editor has consulted me for a third opinion, in response to which you have made further posts, and I felt that I should at least look into it. As a result, I have seen yet further, and worse, examples of your belligerent approach to other editors, your persistent incivility to anyone you disagree with, your unsubstantiated accusations, and also strange statements such as the one I posted at the start of this message, which, as I have already explained, is either disingenuous or else an indication that the problems with your editing will never be stopped, because you are sincerely unable to see them. I also see that you have a fairly long block record, and that some of the blocks were for matters related to the issues under consideration here. As I have already said, this is not the sort of issue in which I like to get involved, but I have been brought into it, initially by your posting on my talk page and subsequently by another editor's asking for help. Your approach to other editors that you disagree with are are totally inconsistent with Misplaced Pages's requirements, and are likely to lead to an extended block if they continue. The most important steps that you can take to avoid that block are (1) be civil to other editors, even when you think they don't deserve civility, (2) assume good faith unless and until there is sound evidence that you can cite to show others that there are substantial grounds for bad faith. Finally, one quite different point. If I see any more edit warring from you I will block for a substantial period without further warning. You don't need any explanation or any more warning about this: you have been blocked six times for edit warring, the first time just over six years ago, in addition to other times when you have been allowed to get away with edit warring. It is now time to convey the message that edit warring is unacceptable, not just that it's something that you can do as much as you like provided that you are willing to accept the risk of an occasional break from Misplaced Pages for a few days or a week or two. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:22, 30 June 2013 (UTC)