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Hello Brian, do you have the time to take another look before I nominate for FA? Best wishes, Graham. Graham Colm (talk) 16:48, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I'll make some time, and post any additional comments on the talkpage within 48 hours. Brianboulton (talk) 19:12, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Graham Colm (talk) 19:44, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Brian. Thank you for your ongoing comments about the article. What do you think about article's title? I raised my concern about this at the end of my GA assessment. Axl ¤ 12:21, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

FA ideas for opera

Brian, given your interest in operas, I thought I might put a plug in for some upcoming centennials of operas that have been performed and/or recorded recently:

• Aureliano in Palmira by Rossini (200 on 26 December 2013)
• Francesca da Rimini by Zandonai (100 on 19 February 2014)
• Mârouf, savetier du Caire by Henri Rabaud (100 on 15 May 2014; just revived at the Opera Comique this year)
• The Nightingale by Stravinsky (100 on 26 May 2014)
• Il turco in Italia by Rossini (200 on August 14, 2014)
• Orlando finto pazzo by Vivaldi (300 on 10 November 2014)
• Madame Sans-Gêne by Giordano (100 on 25 January 2015)
• Tigrane by Scarlatti (300 on 16 February 1715)
• Amadigi di Gaula by Handel (300 on 25 May 2015)
• Torvaldo e Dorliska by Rossini (200 on December 26, 2015)

Also, although it may be too rushed to get this ready and approved at FA in time, Verdi turns 200 this year on October 10. Also this year: Pietro Mascagni turns 150 on December 7, Britten turns 100 in November, and the 50th anniversary of Hindemith's death is 28 December .

If you are interested in any of these, I am happy to collect resources together for you.4meter4 (talk) 21:16, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, I am not a Verdian and have few relevant sources, so I'm not really the one to work up his biography, particularly in view of the short timescale. I have done some preliminary work on Mascagni and I might return to it this summer, with the 150th anniversary in mind. I might be tempted to do the Handel opera, as I have done a couple of these and have good material. I'll be in touch for help/advice when needed. Brianboulton (talk) 22:10, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

FAC

I'm all done with Harold Davidson at FAC - it looks like you're going to get a FA article. Well done.

Can I ask some advice? I have a number of articles I've taken to GA (eg: Keith Moon, Van der Graaf Generator, M11 link road protest) that are currently stalled getting as far as FA due my procrastinating over a lack of sources and a general feeling (paranoia?) that I haven't totally comprehensively covered the subject. No matter how much I tinker, I fear the minute I go to FAC somebody will pull out a massive laundry list of offline sources I hadn't thought about. Has this ever happened to you, and how have you coped with this? Ritchie333 13:12, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I began submitting article to FAC about five-and-a-half years ago. FAC was a less rebarbative environment then. I was lucky enough to find a number of experienced editors, in particular Yomangani, Ruhrfisch, Elcobbola and Ealdgyth, who gave excellent advice and support in those early months. There were others as well – I can't name them all. And SandyGeorgia was in charge of FAC then, and was hugely encouraging. Sadly, most of these are much less active on the project these days, or have retired, but I haven't forgotten the help I got, and am quite prepared to help other editors to polish their articles when they are contemplating an FAC submission. If you want me to look at one of those you name, I'll be happy to do so, although it may take me a few days. Brianboulton (talk) 22:37, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

(watching): your help with Kafka is remembered, especially today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I no longer do much with non-history articles, but if you've got a history article you want help with, I'm glad to help. Just drop a line on my talk page. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:46, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

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Franz Kafka all time top TFA!!!

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YEE HAW PumpkinSky talk 01:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

• • Brian, as this was 2nd place in core last year, I thought you'd like to know. PumpkinSky talk 02:31, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. It's my birthday today, so an extra glass is called for, to celebrate this most pleasing news. I am pleased to have had a small hand in the article's development. Brianboulton (talk) 15:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Your birthday is Yank independence day. Chuckle.PumpkinSky talk 16:50, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

May I share a glass! Happy birthday, Brian! Listen to Handel! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:45, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

And from me. You don't have an Uncle Sam, do you?--Wehwalt (talk) 17:54, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks to all! Every year the USA lights fireworks in my honour. Brianboulton (talk) 18:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

A very happy birthday to you Brian! Cheers from the Holy Land. —Cliftonian (talk) 18:45, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

• Happy birthday Brian! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:58, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

• Belated Happy Birthday Brian! (and congrats to the Kafka crew!) Ruhrfisch _><>° 19:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

• Sorry for missing your birthday Brian, I hope you had a wonderful day and I wish you many, many more. Who would have guessed (forgive me for saying) all those years ago, that you would become a star of the Internet? Graham Colm (talk) 21:17, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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Anyone for tennis? Hard cheese old boy!

It's an absolute shower! The King of the Cads is at PR. If there is any chance you could pop your head round to have a look, Cassianto and I would be very much obliged. All the best – SchroCat (talk) 23:47, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

ps. Just noted the thread above - a slightly belated birthday to you for yesterday! - SchroCat (talk) 07:45, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I will definitely review TT, but I may let others have first dabs - I'll keep my eye on it. Brianboulton (talk) 22:15, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

That's great: many thanks, Brian. - SchroCat (talk) 15:22, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

SP

Hi Brian, your draft looks good in most respects but I was wondering if you wanted to mention Wikidata and its potential impact on infoboxes? Thanks, Ed  02:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm not well enough up on Wikidata to include any useful comments. My piece is not a general critique/assessment of infoboxes; its thrust is specifically the habit of overcrowding infoboxes with unnecessary detail, and thereby undermining their supposed purpose. I don't really want to broaden the issue beyond that. Brianboulton (talk) 19:10, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough, just my two cents on the draft. Thanks for writing it! Ed  06:51, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Raul biz

I'm glad you brought this up at WT:FAC. The issues surrounding Raul's abdication are long overdue for being hashed out. Hopefully this won't up into a huge mess. PumpkinSky talk 03:07, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Davidson promoted

Just a quick note to say very well done! And hope you're having a pleasant weekend. —Cliftonian (talk) 05:58, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

• Most gracious. Yes, I'm pleased the article made it without undue fuss, and I'm glad to see that your Smith article has been similarly ennobled. Let me know when your next project is ready for review. Brianboulton (talk) 12:20, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
  • My congratulations too - a very interesting read, with tragedy and comedy mixed together. Ruhrfisch _><>° 15:38, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Diary of a Somebody

If you have not been keeping abreast of additions to the relevant bit on my talk page, pray look in. Andrew Gray has come up trumps, following up the lead presented by Gareth E Kegg. What excellent colleagues we have! Tim riley (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

"Cusp" for "Crisp" is almost certainly a failure of the OCR scanning of the printed pages. Even Misplaced Pages's austere rules on scrupulous quotation can, surely, be interpreted to allow restoration of what we know the printed source must have said. Tim riley (talk) 19:32, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I wasn't really worried about that. The review is good otherwise. Brianboulton (talk) 20:26, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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Sarnia FA Peer Review

Hi, Brian,

Just wanted to tell you that I've made all the corrections you've so far suggested. I was wondering if you could pass the word to your editing colleagues at your level to make suggestions/comments. I don't want to recommend Sarnia for FA status again until I actually get it there. When you get the time, I would appreciate the extra help. Thanks so far too! There can be only one...TheKurgan (talk) 14:07, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

The article really does need a complete peer review before a shot at FAC. Peer reviews are hard to get at the moment; the best suggestion I can make is that you leave it with me and I will find time, over the next few days, to do it (probably in instalments). In the meantime, one area I advise you to look at carefully is that of over-imaging. In a number of sections the text is squeezed between images on right and left, which contravenes MOS. I think you need to decide which of the large crop of images are the more necessary, and which could be dropped with no real loss to the article. Brianboulton (talk) 15:04, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Brian; I appreciate the comments. The only reason I changed the photos around was because someone complained that they were all left aligned. I changed them to all left aligned when someone else complained that they could not read them. So, I am going to change them back to all left aligned so that there is no problem with the MOS. And I know you're busy, so installments is fine. I look forward to working with you! There can be only one...TheKurgan (talk) 03:17, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

The Rite of Spring editions table

I have moved a table of editions of the score of The Rite of Spring from the article to the talk page. The table is copied from a Norman Lebrecht blog post and seems likely to have at least some information worth including in the article. Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>° 15:41, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I will look at this; I note, too, other instances in the article of bolted-on information which I am not too happy about. There must be a limit to the extent that editors can add on details of adaptations which they think are of great significance but which are in fact ephemeral. It may be a few days before I get to it, however – I am very occupied at present. Brianboulton (talk) 16:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. I wonder if Misplaced Pages:Pending changes should apply to FAs to prevent these barnacle-like accretions. Ruhrfisch _><>° 16:37, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I entirely removed the film sourced only to IMDB (per WP:RS and cropped the paragraph on the solo work down to a few words (as another solo work was already mentioned - added it there with a link to the performer's article which has much more detail). Ruhrfisch _><>° 04:32, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

FA

Re: your post here, would you be willing to do it? I think you've previously indicated no, but I wondered whether that had changed at all. SlimVirgin 23:15, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I have always made it clear that my role in Misplaced Pages is that of a content builder and reviewer. I'd like to keep it that way. Brianboulton (talk) 10:28, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

That's why you'd be good for the job. But I understand and won't ask again in case it's annoying. Thanks for asking about the JSTOR situation, by the way. The loss of that is going to be hard. I wanted to mention to you, in terms of evaluating how it's used (or who is using it), that it can be very useful for background reading. I often find that I don't end up citing it, but did use it to learn about the subject or to find other sources. So that's worth bearing in mind. SlimVirgin 00:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I am trying to evaluate how JSTOR has been used by the editors who were given access, but I lack certain basic information. I don't even know how many of the first 100 on the list took up their accounts, though I do know that some of that 100 are no longer active on Misplaced Pages. If the facility is to continue beyond November, there surely has to be a more rational method of allocating accounts. I am hoping that Steve Welling will provide some answers – he has said that he will. I will continue to ferret around, and at some stage (I don't know when) will report on my findings. Brianboulton (talk) 09:30, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I wonder whether Steven would let you be cc-ed, as an informal community representative, on the correspondence with his JSTOR contacts. If there are people not using their accounts, those could be passed to the people on the waiting list at Misplaced Pages:Requests for JSTOR access (presumably those from 101 onwards). We would have to come up with parameters to determine what we meant by "non-use"; but someone who, say, had not logged into JSTOR for the last three months could be considered not to be using it, as could someone who has not edited WP for six months.

Ideally there would be an increase in the number of accounts JSTOR will allow, so that we wouldn't need to bother with the above; Steven indicated this might happen, but it wasn't clear what would prompt or prevent it. But so long as we have that 100 limit, it should really be given to 100 people who are using it for WP-related research. SlimVirgin 17:30, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Having one of the accounts (speaking of which, if either of you need something drop a note on my talk page with a link and I'll be glad to provide it for you), I can certainly say I'm using mine, if not every day, at least every week. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:34, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Ealdgyth. I have one of the accounts, too, as I believe does Sarah. I use mine all the time – every one of my featured artile noms since last November has used some JSTOR-sourced articles. My anxiety is not only that this should continue, but that this very important facility be used by those editors best able to make use of it. For example, I notice that the artist formerly known as Malleus is lurking way down the list at No. 201; Cassianto is at 209, , Ed at 241 and User:Mike Christie a lowly 254. These are all active editors with a strong presence at FAC who I think would used JSTOR access for the benefit of the Misplaced Pages project. I am not sure what being "cc-ed" means - I hope it doesn't mean chemically castrated. Brianboulton (talk) 18:03, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Archie

Amongst all the excitement, I forgot to mention that Archie is at FAC now. If you get a chance to head over that way, I'd be very grateful if you could do the source review. And I'm desperately hoping that having the spirit of Archie hovering like this will not jinx a forthcoming sporting event... Sarastro1 (talk) 17:26, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I had indeed noticed it, but I thought I would give the earlier commenters first go. I will be there within a day or so, never fear. Brianboulton (talk) 17:36, 9 July 2013 (UTC)