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Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/K Ravindra ‎

The article I have created is

Not Original research 1. Article is based on third party published book by reputed writer "Vijay Kumar Dev" (Can be searched on internet by typing "Ravindra Aur Rekhankan") 2. Artist biography is published on Government APS University Rewa doctoral research book : "Vindya Kshetra Ke Parihar" by Dr Anupam Singh. 3. Third reference is also from third Party organization "kavitakosh.org"

Notability Many short introductions and book covers are available on Hindi rhetoric books, for example 1. Bodhi Prakashan (ISBN : 978-93-82452-37-9, Page 6),(ISBN : 978-93-82452-67-6, Page 8) 2. Published copy of Interviews on reputed newspaper is available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Flavius_C._Killebrew

Hello Arctic Kangaroo,

I used as template in writing the Flavius_C._Killebrew article this similar article: http://en.wikipedia.org/Carol_Garrison

Please let it go public.

Thanks,

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.175.228.172 (talk • contribs) 22:21, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, sorry about that, I usually don't accept stub articles. But if you want, you can put it up for review again and let another reviewer review it. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 02:25, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Arctic, I don't mean to intrude, but well-written and sourced stub articles are perfectly acceptable for mainspace. See Atlantic Salmon Conservation Foundation, a very well written, descriptive, and reliably sourced stub article. I've made the same mistake a couple of times, but you have to get over that initial "it's too short" cringe. Good stub articles can be seeds of collaborations, so always try to put relevant WikiProject headers on the talk page (very easy if you're using the script). Thanks, theonesean 00:36, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

submission http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bruno_Solnik

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bruno_Solnik http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Solnik&oldid=563193969&diff=prev

Dear Artic Kangaroo

Firs,t all my apologies for disturbing your peace, I am new to wikipedia. I have spent dozens of hours trying to edit the article on Bruno Solnik trying to provide proper references. I do not understand what is wrong. I searched hours before disturbing you. All the references provided are from official websites of; - HKUST (Hong Kong University of Science and Technology)a leading university in Asia (often regarded as among the top 5 by many rankings). All documents posted by the university are verified by HKUST before posting. I can see that most academic authors also use university websites to authenticate. - other official websites of the Financial Times and CFA Institute.

Every single information is verified in these public websites from reputable institutions.

I am not saying that I did not make a mistake. But it would be useful if you could point to my error. I have checked numerous other[REDACTED] biographies and could not find where I erred.

Many thanks Solnik

Reliable sources???

Hello,

I submitted an article by the name of Zainab Chottani, a well known designer in Pakistan. But my article was rejected on grounds that my sources were not reliable. The sources I used were newspapers and fashion magazines. What else is needed?

Jordan Older notability satisfied according to http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Association_football

Dear Artic Kangaroo,

Sorry to bother you and thanks for your time.

When this player was playing the Internet was not widley in use so there are not good records from this time available online, espcially in Brazil and Europe where mainstream use of the Internet lagged domestic(USA) use. However, there are 3 links that fully satisfy Misplaced Pages rules notability in Association Football, proving the subject's notability.

1) One of the top sports news agency's in Brazil states the names of the teams and the dates and every Brazilian soccer fan knows these famous teams. This is the most recent objective evidence from a reputable 3rd party news source that is entirely independent of the subject, but you have to use Google translate. This proof is much better than 90% of the proof used for thousands of other soccer player articles published on Misplaced Pages, alone. http://www.futebolinterior.com.br/news/259995+Ex-jogador_vira_empresario_e_comeca_a_ganhar_espaco_no_futebol (Portuguese language - use translator)

2) http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/stats/23496.html States that the subject satisfies the Misplaced Pages rules of notability via Association football by having appeared in a in a fully professional league "USL Professional Division . (USSF Division 2 Professional League, USL First Division and USL Second Division". This is This is tricky because the team has changed leagues and is no longer in existence.

3) http://www.lsk.se/default.asp?do=game_details&gameID=1111 The official web site for professional Swedish 1st division team states clearly that the subject played in the top league in Brazil. (Swedish language - use translator)

There are a few other reputable, 3rd party citations/links which prove the notability of the subject and the statements made. The main problem here is that the Internet was not in use during the time the subject played, but this shouldn't matter since we have the current news article from the one of the top soccer news agencies in Brazil which fully corroborates all statements.

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1) "Players who have appeared ... in a fully professional league"

2) "list of fully professional leagues"

3) "USL Professional Division"

4) http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/stats/23496.html (official USL Pro game stat showing subject has satisfied Misplaced Pages rules of notability and is entirely independent of the subject)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Association_football

Association football Shortcuts: WP:NFOOTBALL WP:NFOOTY WP:NSOCCER

1. Association football (soccer) figures are presumed notable if they meet the following: Players, managers and referees who have represented their country in any FIFA sanctioned senior international match (including the Olympics) are notable as they have achieved the status of participating at the highest level of football. The notability of these is accepted as they would have received significant coverage as outlined above in the general notability criteria. 2. Players who have appeared, and managers who have managed, in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable. oooooooooooSee a list of fully professional leagues kept by WikiProject Football.ooooooooooo Note: A player who signs for a domestic team but has not played in any games is not deemed to have participated in a competition, and is therefore not generally regarded as being notable. Youth players are not notable unless they satisfy one of the statements above, or if they can be shown to meet the wider requirements of WP:GNG.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues#Men.27s_leagues_2

USA – Major League Soccer ; North American Soccer League  (inaugural season in 2011); USL Professional Division . (USSF Division 2 Professional League, USL First Division and USL Second Division , and North American Soccer League  were also fully pro leagues, but are now defunct).

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http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/stats/23496.html

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Misplaced Pages:Article Incubator/Damario Ambrose

Is this article ok to be submitted? 71.180.91.32 (talk) 05:04, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Has he played at least 1 full season in the Arena Football League? ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 05:13, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, He has played games in the Arena Football League. 71.180.91.32 (talk) 05:19, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Should be OK, in my opinion. You can try and give it a go at AfC, if I happen to see it and review it, it should pass. But I'm not sure about the other reviewers though. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 01:00, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions and taking the time to answer my questions. 71.180.91.32 (talk) 03:17, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

inquiry on the jerome rudolph article

I received your review message, specific to the verifiability of the article. Using this article http://en.wikipedia.org/Maurice_Mitchell and http://en.wikipedia.org/Ka%27Deem_Carey as templates I do not see where the sources cited are any less credible. Are there certain portions considered too detailed that should be cut out?

Historical precedence says that these particular sources i.e. Patriotleague.org which is a peer insitution of pac12.com and the Mitchell article cites the FSU seminole website similarly to the Lafayette Leopard cite being cited. Should I trim certain specifics?

1st Article : Thierry Dreyfus Rejected -> How to improve ?_How_to_improve_?">

Hi,

My first article on Thierry Dreyfus was rejected because it was said to be an advertisement.

Even though it is not true, I really do want to improve my article so that it can published. Since it is you who said it was an ad, could you please tell me why you thought so ?

By advance, thanks.

Bests,

Emilie http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Thierry_Dreyfus Arctic-

RE: The Ben Schwartz page, If I remove the Chicago Mercantile Exchange Committees, will you approve? Or can you please direct me to the section you are referring to about lacking sources? Thanks!

Chris

Hi, I'm trying to seek some clarification as to why my recent contribution/article was denied. Here is the link http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Michael_Gerhardt

Thanks.

Review an article / 1st article / Thierry Dreyfus / Artist designer

Hi,

I have made a some changes to the article because it had been rejected in first place (not objective, advertising, etc).

Could you please tell me if it's better now ?

Thx

Emilie

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Thierry_Dreyfus

Your review of Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Emily Summers

In the future, could you try to be more specific with your reviews than just saying "More sources please"? This doesn't tell the user that they need to be reliable, and it doesn't tell them which sections are lacking. Thanks. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Arctic, believe me, I'm really not stalking your page. This is the reason I originally came to your page before I got caught up in the stub debate. An example of this undescriptive brevity can be found in duplicate on Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Ben Schwartz. You declined this article twice in a row, providing the following decline reasons:

• Some of the sources not reliable.

and

• There is an unsourced section.

Which sources are unreliable? Be specific! Is it the MoneyWatch.com one, or Reuters, or perhaps another? The author has no idea! What section is unsourced? What in the section needs to be sourced? Nobody knows! Yes, it's a backlog elimination drive, but please please please realize our number one goal is to provide quality content to Misplaced Pages. Detailed decline reasons help editors improve their articles. Improved articles help build Misplaced Pages. Please take the time to detail your reasoning, perhaps even in a comment. You're a good reviewer doing great things, but please take the time to help our newbies. Thanks, theonesean 00:48, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

@Theonesean: Hi there, thanks for the note. I have been trying to do the best in my reviews, and giving as best reasons as possible. But maybe I'm still quite inexperienced in this thing, so any guidance and advice is appreciated. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 13:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for being so receptive. You've been doing a really great job so far, so keep it up. You're awesome, theonesean 20:08, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Reason for decline

Why did you decline http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/TerraTrike.

Every fact there is a referenced/cited fact. It is a unbiased description of the company. What exactly makes you say it is an advertisement? It is a notable business as proven by the references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muellerj307 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Actually, this "advertisement"-or-not thing changes from editor to editor. It depends on how the reviewer feels about the article when reading it. I find that the way you write the front part of the article is rather promotional. I'm not sure how other reviewers think though. Try improving the article and put it up for review again. I/Other editors will take a look at it again. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Cuzie

Hi, Arctic Kangaroo. My name is Dave McDonald and I just published an article on Cuzie.com that was rejected. You cited that it looked like an advertisement. The thing is, I don't work for Cuzie in any way. I just found the site through my friend and quickly received a job offer after using the site. I was extremely happy with this and thought that I should create a page dedicated to the site because I feel it is an important one. I am a very recent Misplaced Pages account holder (I basically made my account to publish that Cuzie article), and maybe I did some things wrong. I thought I was writing about it in a neutral way. Could you help me? Thank you, Arctic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveMcDonald (talk • contribs) 16:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Dave, even if you don't work for them, you may still have accidentally written it like an advertisement. Don't worry, I have come across many of these "advertisements" which the editor has absolutely no intention of writing it like such. However, I find that you use many peacock terms in your article, and the tone is rather promotional. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:30, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

New Article http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Wayne_%22Silk%22_Perry

There were several stories today about Jay-Z glorifying "the most heinous murderer in DC history" in one of his new songs. I went to Misplaced Pages to find out more about the murderer, Wayne Perry, but could not find an article on him. There is a wealth of information about Mr. Perry online, so I found it very odd that there was no Misplaced Pages article. So I wrote one. Is there a reason the article was rejected? Does it need more information? Lacking subjectivity? More citations? More proof of notoriety? Thanks in advance for your input.

Patpend (talk) 20:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)Patpend

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Large chunks of unsourced text

Hello Arctic Kangaroo Most of my information comes from 1 single source which is an autobiography. Have some questions which I hope you can answer: a)Does an autobiography count as a reliable source b)where the whole paragraph is being cited from one reference, Will moving the references to the end of the paragraph help?

Thanks Mentabolism (talk) 13:03, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

a) Depends on what it is.

b) Yes.

✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 13:07, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Arctic Kangaroo thank you! Mentabolism (talk) 13:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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Answering user enquiries

Hi AK. Could you please consider extending a courtesty to User talk:DaveMcDonald and reply to his questions above? I realise that AfC has backlogs, but those backlogs are so old that nothing is more important than offering a few personal explanations to an editor who believes himself to be creating an article in good faith. Cheers. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:48, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

ASCII Media Works for Jin's Biography is unreliable?

Hello, sorry for taking your time to read this Section, but I have to explain about the comment you stated regarding Source 1, a source from ASCII Media Works. as unreliable. It is actually a publishing company in Japan that covers the pop culture of Japan, including Vocaloid Music. The interview is in Japanese and it took placed on June 6, 2012. Furthermore, the time interval between my submission for the article, and the time you reviewed the article was 6 minutes, so I might have assumed that you took a general view through the source. Most of the apparently reliable sources that I can find are in Japanese, since there are not many reliable sources in English. I didn't mean to sound offensive at all, but I'm just asking for a suggestion if you could guide me regarding Japanese sources. --(B)～（ー．ー）～(Z) (talk) 06:17, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I thought the source looked rather unreilable. Put the article up for review again and I will reassess it. Cheers. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 07:25, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

I've expanded the article, just to a point that the article is efficiently adequate and re-submitted it for another review. Thank you for reconsidering on the article and reviewing it again.--(B)～（ー．ー）～(Z) (talk) 08:18, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Articles for creation/Hubert Benoit

Please could you do what editor Techatology would not do i.e. indicate which of my references you consider unreliable. I will then know how to proceed. Many thanks.FGrahamR (talk) 17:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/He_Jiahong

Hi, thanks for reviewing my page. I wonder if you can help though. I spent the day on the live help re-writing my article and was told that it no longer read like an advert and that the links were good (using CNN, Guardian Newspaper...). I then resubmitted the article and you failed it for the same reasons. Can you point out exactly what you mean, or give an example. Just confused as i keep failing for the same reason, yet the guys in the live chat say it should be ok. Thanks for your help. MikeMichaelleach (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

AfC reviewing

Hi AK. I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I am beginning to be concerned about the accuracy of your reviewing. In one instance you responded to a user's question by stating that your review may have been due to a lack of your experience. A quick review of some of your rejections demonstrates - at least to me - that some submissions could easily have been accepted. I have not reviewed articles that you have accepted. While we must be on our mettle to decline articles that are obviously unsuitable, we must avoid being too harsh on articles that are short, or simply need some formatting or additional sources - our mission should be to encourage new users to contribute; a rejection of an article that has been created in good faith will always be perceived as bitey. In spite of the recent backlog drive, accuracy rather than speed of review is required. Please take a moment to consider these points, and if you need any help or advice, my talk page is always open :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:18, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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Seeking advice on Article Creation

Hi Arctic Kangaroo,

I'm working an article creation of http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Tierra_Design_(Singapore) I'd like to seek for your advice to help me improve the article. You have commented that the article sounds like an ad, and declined it twice. Indeed, i have carefully studied the article of other firms like http://en.wikipedia.org/WOHA (In fact, those pages sounds exactly like an advertisement, but they were approved. For WOHA, it was basically a copy-and-paste from the company website).

Moreover, I have consulted Wiki online Help chat. Following their advices, I have removed all flowery spots. All the description about the projects, if any, was quoted from sources and it was not my subjective comment.

Please advise me on this, so that i can improve the page. Thanks and have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohdarren (talk • contribs) 09:48, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Personally, I find that the commentaries make the article sound like an advertisement. But that's IMO, other reviewers may have a different opinion about it. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 09:53, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Reliable Sources

Hello, I submitted an article by the name of "Carlos Moedas", a well known politician in Portugal.However, the article was rejected on grounds of "Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified" - can you please let me know what information needs reliable sources to be verified.

Proenca07 (talk) 10:42, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

I actually meant that the article needed more sources as large chunks of text was unsourced. But no such template was available, that was the closest. Good luck on improving your article! ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 10:44, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Randall P. Dark: HDTV Pioneer

Re this message you left on my talk page, you have notified the wrong person. I did not submit that article or create it. I merely formatted the references. The person you need to notify is Darkmania Productions (talk · contribs). -- Voceditenore (talk) 15:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

 Notified --✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:06, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Koh Poh Koon

Hi, I do not think that the non-free and copyrighted picture of him should be used. Since he is still alive, it must be assumed that a free photo of him exists somewhere and therefore the "historical portrait" rationale is invalid and not relevant here. It is only when he dies then you can argue that a free alternative is not available. If you have no objections I will tag it for deletion. Sorry and cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 15:38, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Not sure if can find one, but I will try to when I have time. I was trying to find one proper portrait, complete with PAP uniform. BTW, RI rejected, will need to try appeal through _ _ _ _ results if good enough. ✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:42, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Well the article must make do without a picture then. You could stalk him and take one, as an alternative. :P That's sad to hear. Good luck. :)

Struggling to find sources

Hi Arctic Kangaroo! I've tried to create a new article http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Theological_College_of_Central_Africa, but am struggling to find suitable sources to cite; there isn't a great deal I can find in the way of news or specific books, etc. I'm just wondering what options are available to me, so that I can hopefully get the article accepted? Many thanks for your help! Tracey datasalon (talk) 16:49, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Article decline

Hello Arctic Kangaroo,

I was wondering why my article was declined? http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Renana_Peres The article contains reliable references. Some other sources remain because most of the important information about the studies and researches come from the scholar herself. I had gone over many wiki articles of academic scholar and did not find even one that didn't contain sources which consist of material published the scholar or her research team. Still, I have provided several reliable and authentic sources. What other corrections should be done in terms of the references? I would greatly appreciate it if you could point out the problematic refrences. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Docki2013 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Creation and acceptance of new articles

Dear Arctic Kangaroo I stumbled across the proposed article on Renana Peres and was left flabbergasted that here an article is put through proper quality assessment criteria, whereas elsewhere pages are being added willy-nilly. I would appreciate if you could spare a minute to have a look at an article recently created that I proposed for deletion just so I can see what someone with your level of assessment makes of it. You can find the article ]. I should add that a lot of work has been added since it was nominated for deletion. I would be most grateful. Best regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 01:29, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

For what.....:|

Congratulated......Just 4 ur contributions !:) Joseph 03:49, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

discussion for deletion of squads

Here is discussion for deletion of some squads. Please attention!hoising (talk) 05:58, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey Arctic Kangaroo; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:

• If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
• If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
• If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
• sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
• If you type at the end of links, they now extend
• Templates now only take a single click to insert
• Clear annotations clears links (50461)
• The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
• Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
• Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
• References made by tag:ref now display properly (bugzilla:50978)
• The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
• Feedbacl link goes to the right language (bugzilla:47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

AFC Backlog drive

Hi there, Can I request as the coordinator of the drive that you take a few days off and calm down, specifically concerning various comments made about you're declines on the drives talk page. I can see why you are keen; I had similar problems when I first started at AFC. Also, can I suggest that you leave any submissions you have reviewed once to someone else to re-review, which may also prevent future troubles. Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 12:22, 17 July 2013 (UTC)