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Re: Progressive rock

Take your time. When you return, please note that I've rewritten the Neo-prog section, so you might want to give that another look. It opened with a list of bands, and that attracts fancruft, so I've deleted the names and replaced them with more content. Good luck with your own articles! Let me know if you want a good WP:GOCE polish. Dementia13 (talk) 23:07, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take a look when I'm feeling a bit more alive. Got a busy weekend coming up, large marquee fair tonight, then appearing at a festival on the bill with Tom Hingley tomorrow. Eek!

For copy editing, if I ever finish mining the book sources for Van der Graaf Generator so it can go to FAC, I'll let you know if I need copyediting, though there are a couple of gnomes who watchlist the article who tend to be quite on the ball with spelling and fixes (I've got a particular blind spot to WP:REFPUNC). Ritchie333 11:11, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm just now seeing your note about A82 road, and I'll be glad to take a look at it. I think you have to do GAN before you can do peer review, and peer review is recommended before FAC. I can ensure that, whatever you do, you won't get delayed by prose issues.

Regarding your mention of the samples, I'm thinking about changing two of them, so I'd like to check with you on that. I want to replace the Gentle Giant with a segment of "On Reflection," both because it's a fugue and because "Mobile" has a similarity to the Kansas example. "On Reflection" is also a fairly prominent song and was mentioned by some of the sources. The other change is that the Marillion example was chosen with the idea of putting it up next to a section of "Get 'Em Out by Friday," to point out specific stylistic similarities between Marillion and Genesis. Is that OK, or does it seem too POV? (Accusations of similarity is now an article point- I had to expand the neo-prog section and remove the example names, because every fan wants to add their favorite). And if both of those changes are OK, do you need to review them first? Dementia13 (talk) 02:17, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I've had a read through the article and I think everything's in shape to pass GA. If the audio files comply with NFCC then I think all is well. I'll sort out the paperwork when I'm on a desktop box (editing Misplaced Pages on a phone is a PITA). As far as A82, well you don't have to do anything specific to take an article to FAC, just GAN and peer reviews avoid it being tossed out. I can always GA nominate it now I guess - there's no rush. Thanks for your copyedit - looks much better. Ritchie333 19:48, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I've done barely anything, but I'll give it a thorough look. My long unemployment ended the same day you picked up the prog article for review, so I now have less time and energy and have to do everything in small pieces. Dementia13 (talk) 19:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Essay

I just noticed that you expanded the essay Misplaced Pages:Nominating multiple articles for deletion in a day that I started. It looks better. SL93 (talk) 00:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. I was probably having a bad time at AfD that week. I tend to add to essays just after I've been brassed off about something! That's how WP:PRAM and friends started. Ritchie333 09:52, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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What are you on to? Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:53, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK - A82 Road

A quick courtesy note - I added a DYK for an article that I wrote when I saw your DYK. Your DYK appears to have been screwed up somehow. You might like to have a look. Martinvl (talk) 21:24, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Did a quick check myself - your article has been promoted - well done. Martinvl (talk) 21:31, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Rotolactor

Copyedited the lede per your suggestion. Good idea! Could you put a tick mark , if you approve the DYK nomination. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:55, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

No problem - should hopefully get promoted now. Ritchie333 11:30, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for A82 road

On 13 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article A82 road, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the A82 in Glasgow was described by Tam Galbraith as "the most noble entry to any city in Europe"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/A82 road. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

The Ukulele Guy - Aggie80 (talk) 11:17, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

About Article being Declined

Hello there, I just tried to submit an article about the School I work @ Richland Academy and it was declined. You wrote this:

Educational establishments below the approximate equivalent of US High School and UK Grammar School are generally not kept as separate articles on Misplaced Pages but merged into a parent. You may have more success expanding Richmond Hill, Ontario#Education instead. When I went to that page, it lists other schools in our area and they have separate articles talking about them, we just want the same thing and even to show up on that page. What can I take out to make this work?

Thank you.

-FMC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fcimbron (talk • contribs) 12:43, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

The schools linked in that article are all secondary schools, teaching Grade 9 and above. The general consensus (after years of discussion!) is that we assume places of secondary education are important enough for their own article, while those of primary education aren't. Since your academy only teaches to Grade 6, it falls into the latter category. The guidelines for notability on high schools has more information. The other way to get an article listed is if the academy is important in some other way, such as being the elementary school for several notable people or achieving national news coverage. Heatherdown Preparatory School is such an example - although it did not teach pupils above 13 (and falling into the "primary" bracket), it is notable for having taught David Cameron, Prince Andrew and David Niven. I hope that clarifies things. The bottom line is the academy can have a mention on Misplaced Pages, but probably not in a separate article. Ritchie333 13:21, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Blackwall Tunnel GAN

Well done! Your article on Blackwall Tunnel has been awarded GA status. Bob1960evens (talk) 16:35, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for another good GA review. Ritchie333 16:37, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion please

Please take a look at WT:WikiProject Articles for creation/July 2013 Backlog Elimination Drive#Time to close this drive?, I think this matter might need some admin attention. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:50, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

• I'm not an admin but I'll give my two cents to the discussion. Ritchie333 13:56, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

✉→Arctic Kangaroo←✎ 15:10, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Bioscale

70.79.73.253 (talk) 10:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

• Your article has been speedy deleted. I hope you now understand that paid editing generally ends in tears. Sorry. Ritchie333 11:59, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

• • I interpreted "propose suggestions (or possibly drafts) ... at noticeboards for uninvolved editors (and even critics) to review" as including AfC.

• • I thought the company was marginally acceptable. You haven't convinced me otherwise with your odd, unsupported contention that a reputable newspaper and real journalists would publish press releases under their names. Two other editors didn't find the article to be blatant advertising to the point of triggering G11, so your action is out of line IMO. All it does is conveniently let you off the hook as to responding to my objections. I don't mind if Bioscale is rejected for just cause, but your reasons doesn't strike me as very convincing. 70.79.73.253 (talk) 10:41, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes life is unfair and you don't get your own way. I can't bring your article back. You can try and contact the administrator, RHaworth (talk · contribs), who deleted it, and explain to him why it should be restored. Ritchie333 10:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

as an admin who has deleted thousands of promotional articles, I do not consider it a G11: it is basically factual.The company may or may not be notable, but we've often considered being the subject of an HBR case as a contribution to notability. (Admins differ, but I'm not going to challenge the deletion because it isn't worth it, for it would indeed help to have a stronger article.)

More important, I would personally never say either of the comments above even to a paid editor. Paid editing is not against our rules if done right, and it is current practice that it be done through AfC. I will advise the new editor accordingly, and apologize to him. (If he's left WP as a result of this sort of mockery, I'll make the article myself.) Paid editing if done right should not end in tears, and we try to be reasonably fair here. Even were it an editor doing it wrongly, I think it better just to say so than to talk that way to them. DGG ( talk ) 20:37, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for giving me your opinion on my editing, it is much appreciated. I will try and take up some of your suggestions... Thanks again, Matty.007 08:50, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

hello

thankyou so muchhhh! is there anyway to make it appear first in any search of nitzan chen? cuz right now it's on page 2! when searching on google that is... {EliaBerger (talk) 12:13, 19 July 2013 (UTC)}

• Hi. Normally, a Misplaced Pages article floats to the top of the Google search results quickly. Chen is a bit of an unusual case as a search for his name returns multiple news hits which afford greater presence. The best way to make the article more important is to document his activities as reported in those news sources, so the article expands. Overall, though, we have no control over where a subject appears in a search ranking. Ritchie333 12:49, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

your opinion please...

I saw your exchange with User:Arctic Kangaroo over on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/July 2013 Backlog Elimination Drive.

AK recently requested the deletion of an image he or she uploaded to the Commons

In that discussion, after several days, AK has claimed to be under 16 years old, and to be insufficiently familiar with WMF standards to understand a creative commons license.

I am frankly skeptical that he or she is a minor. But if he or she is a minor, who doesn't understand copyright, or the meaning of a creative commons license, I find it very disturbing that they were trusted to decline transferring hundreds of candidate articles to article space.

I know that Commons and the Misplaced Pages are separate projects. Still, as someone who seems to have been following AK's contributions for some time, I'd be interested in your opinion as to whether it is possible AK was really under 16 years old; I'd be interested in your opinion as to whether AK's ignorance of the meaning of copyright and the implication of creative commons licenses is genuine.

Can you let me know how the reviewers were selected?

No, I don't think being 15 or younger should bar an individual from being a trusted contributor to WMF projects -- provided they can consistently act responsibly, comply with our civility rules and conventions, and consistently display competence. Unfortunately we have contributors who are demonstrably adults, and demonstrably can't do this -- and they shouldn't be trusted either.

Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 04:58, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

I can vouch for AK's age definitely being under 16. While not obliged to say, I am aware of his actual age. No comment about his eligibility to contribute though. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 05:46, 20 July 2013 (UTC)