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Whoever said that this article is an AFD please explain your reason why. - Sfrostee

"long list of times they have been blocked"? ONCE is alot of times for a new editor?OK I guess??--68.9.116.87 04:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

68.9.116.87 has never been blocked for vandalism. (→Netscott) 06:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Well it looks like he's a sock puppet so I was right. -Sfrostee

These words are quoted from New International Encyclopedia

JAMESTOWN The first permanent English settlement within the limits of the United States, founded in May, 1607, by a small company under Captain Newport, in Virginia, on the banks of the James River, about 32 miles from its mouth. Here in 1619 the first legislative assembly in America was held, and here in the same year slavery was first introduced into the original thirteen Colonies.

It's none of my business, of course, but this page titled Anthony Johnson (American Colonial) appears to be an attempt to claim that the first slaveholder in the United States was a Negro, not a white man who owned negroes. I have always heard that slavery was enacted by the legislature of Jamestown, Virginia in 1619. This page is at variance with all of the history books and with New International Encyclopedia, too. Velocicaptor 01:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

--Understood, I will fix the sentence so it is not confusing.

reread the article, you said "but this page...appears to be an attempt to claim that the first slaveholder in the United States was a Negro." It says a paragraph before "He was one of the original 20 African slaves brought to Jamestown." I fixed the confusion anyway and added a source. Sfrostee 14 May 2007

No slavery as of 1619, it was law by 1662

As an institution, slavery did not exist in Virginia in 1619. Slavery as we know it today, evolved gradually, beginning with customs rather than laws, and the institution of slavery evolved legally over a period of time, from indentured servitude to life long servitude. NPS website says that John Punch, a runaway indentured Servant, was the first documented slave for life in 1640. Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion of the WPA Writers' Program stated that the court case of Anthony Johnson in Northampton County was the first. The NPS site goes on to say that, by 1662, slavery was recognized in the statutory law of the colony. Sources: Vaoverland 05:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh so Johnson was not a slave but rather one of the first African laborers in Virginia. That must be how he bought his freedom, he was an indentured servant. I will correct it. Sfrostee 15 May 2007

"Anthony Johnson was the most wealthy freed slave ever up until the end of the Civil War 200 years later." Should this be freed slave or free Black man? Reb 12:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

-Anthony Johnson is one of the major reasons slave reparations can never be enacted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwefel (talk • contribs) 02:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha, oh wow. 93.138.158.151 (talk) 17:15, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Juana or Mary?

His wife's name is first given as Juana, then as Mary. Did she change her name? Is this the same person? Hypocryptickal (talk) 12:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Possibly. They were from Angola which at that time Had been incontact with Portugal. The Angolans hand converted to Catholocism and taken portugese names. (In particular in the cities and settlements which tells us something about who these people were.)--71.239.120.235 (talk) 03:55, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Multiple Issues - fixed

Mischievous and misleading edits e.g.:

Ironically, Anthony Johnson is the first man known to have owned a slave despite that he was himself a black man.

Poor grammar, spelling and poor context for some statements. I've done what I can. Centrepull (talk) 22:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Birth Year

I will change it to year of birth unknown. 1620 is the year of his first appearance, not his birth. 99.6.41.121 (talk) 06:19, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Angolan African?

An 'Angolan African?' That's like saying, 'David Cameron, an English European.'

I'm removing the redundancy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.119.224.131 (talk) 00:24, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

And I'm putting it back, welcome to wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.239.139 (talk) 17:07, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

GOTO 10 ; You all are utter morons. Then again, I’ll welcome myself to Nazimerica. — 78.34.202.5 (talk) 09:41, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

What about John Punch?

Another Misplaced Pages article on John Punch (slave) (http://en.wikipedia.org/John_Punch_(slave)) suggests that, in judgement against him for an attempt to escape while an indentured servant, John Punch was actually the first "indentured servant for life" in Virginia, in 1640, well predating the case in this article. Jefferson made comments on the deteriorating condition of records from the 1600's ... possibly much has been lost. I have been unable to locate any interim laws establishing the legitimacy of slavery, until a law in 1662 decided "Negro women’s children to serve according to the condition of the mother." WHEREAS some doubts have arrisen whether children got by any Englishman upon a negro woman should be slave or ffree, Be it therefore enacted and declared by this present grand assembly, that all children borne in this country shalbe held bond or free only according to the condition of the mother." (http://www.studythepast.com/slaveryvirginiatimeline.pdf) Tomligon (talk) 01:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Despite being indentured for life Punch was still considered to be an endentured servant. Wayne (talk) 03:38, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Where? Where is it officially established that John Punch wasn't a slave while John Casor was a slave? They were both indentured servants. The Johnson vs. Parker court decision said nothing about Casor being a slave for life, it only ruled that Parker could not take Johnson's property away from him and ordered that Casor be returned back to Johnson since he was still Johnson's property. No where in the court decision was he officially recognized as slave instead of an indentured servant. http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Court_Ruling_on_Anthony_Johnson_and_His_Servant_1655 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoobydunk (talk • contribs) 03:59, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

The court accepted testimony that Casor had never had a contract of indenture. This means Casor was never an indentured servant but a slave. Wayne (talk) 06:53, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Removed incorrect wording about slaves

Massachusetts slave laws (1641) predate Anthony Johnson's court case. There were slaves in the continental US going as far back as the 1620's in Massachusset's. Reference to these are easily found, even in Misplaced Pages's page on the Mass slave laws. This interpretation of Johnson as first slave owner has some history, but has been debunked in the literature and only remains due to recent promotion by Glenn Beck. I think Wiki would prefer to be consistent with recorded history and it's own articles and references elsewhere here. So I've renamed that section to something more neutral and took out outrageous claims like "first slave". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ex0du5 5utu7e (talk • contribs) 17:31, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

It also appears the original wording of that paragraph only stated that he was the first legally recognized in Virginia, which is true. That claim had the same reference as the removed "first slave" generalisation, which was added later. The reference used makes no such general claim.--Ex0du5 5utu7e (talk) 18:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Article Introduction 2nd Paragrah

Second paragraph currently reads as follows:

"Slavery has been rife throughout all of ancient history. Most, if not all, ancient civilizations practiced this institution and it is described (and defended) in early writings of the Sumerians, Babylonians, and Egyptians. It was also practiced by early societies in central America and Africa. (See Bernard Lewis’s work Race and Slavery in the Middle East1 for a detailed chapter of the origins and practices of slavery.)The Qur’an prescribes a humanitarian approach to slavery — free men could not be enslaved, and those faithful to foreign religions could live as protected persons, dhimmis, under Muslim rule (as long as they maintained payment of taxes called Kharaj and Jizya). However, the spread of the Islamic Empire resulted in a much harsher interpretation of the law. For example, if a dhimmis was unable to pay the taxes they could be enslaved, and people from outside the borders of the Islamic Empire were considered an acceptable source of slaves."

I do not understand what this is doing here. A general description of the history of slavery does not belong in an article about a specific person. Not one word about the subject of the article. I'll delete it if nobody objects.221bbaker (talk) 23:39, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Racism in the article

Why is it only “true” slavery, if it‘s a black and African person? They don’t have a monopoly on victimhood. — 78.34.202.5 (talk) 09:39, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Re-write

I'm currently re-writing the article so it will look a little disjointed until I finish. Please avoid corrections for now and bear with me for a few days. Wayne (talk) 17:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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