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I would appreciate if you accompanied it with a citation. I worked hard on the Saga article on it getting it Good Article status, so as a friendly note, I'd appreciate it if when adding material like , that you'd accompany it with a citation of a reliable source. Thanks, Sandstein. ] (]) 15:45, 3 September 2013 (UTC) I would appreciate if you accompanied it with a citation. I worked hard on the Saga article on it getting it Good Article status, so as a friendly note, I'd appreciate it if when adding material like , that you'd accompany it with a citation of a reliable source. Thanks, Sandstein. ] (]) 15:45, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
:It's sourced in the linked article, ], and also further down in the article at ]. Easily verified factual material doesn't always need inline referencing, especially in the lead, which is not otherwise footnoted much and is a summary of the article. You should look at material more carefully before reverting it with sweeping statements about NOR and V. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 15:55, 3 September 2013 (UTC) :It's sourced in the linked article, ], and also further down in the article at ]. Easily verified factual material doesn't always need inline referencing, especially in the lead, which is not otherwise footnoted much and is a summary of the article. You should look at material more carefully before reverting it with sweeping statements about NOR and V. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 15:55, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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Permission requested

Commons have applied a notice at File:Ulster Defence Regiment Insignia.jpg requesting the insignia there be reuploaded as a .svg or .png file. I am in a position to do so but to maintain the integrity of the articles it is used on I would need to change the link on each one. The file is being used on 19 articles concerning the Ulster Defence Regiment, 18 of which come under the current topic ban I am appealing. May I have your permission please to modify the infoboxes on the 18 articles affected? SonofSetanta (talk) 15:33, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

No, this is within the scope of your topic ban.  Sandstein  17:07, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
It's an image of a badge Sandstein, not text. Just a basic admin task to comply with a Commons request. Nothing contentious about it. SonofSetanta (talk) 17:23, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
That does not change that it is subject to the topic ban. See WP:BAN#Bans apply to all editing, good or bad.  Sandstein  17:44, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
If UDR images are covered by the topic ban then it has already been breached four times today at File:5_UDR_Record_Sleeve.jpg. —Psychonaut (talk) 18:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Psychonaut those comments just go to prove that you have serious issues with me despite your denials. I hope Sandstein has taken note. You will go to any lengths to try and land me in hot water. FYI, and which you should know, altering an image file "off article" has nothing to do whatsoever with the article. I can still upload as many images as I want for the UDR articles and have another editor put them in by proxy, which I fully intend to do. I don't know what your game is but your complaint at the AE board was malicious. You have got your way, so far. I hope you enjoy your pyrrhic victory but remind you that similar courses of action in the future will show you for the spiteful person that you have appeared to be all along. SonofSetanta (talk) 12:24, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Just a drive-by note; I have removed File:5_UDR_Record_Sleeve.jpg from that article. I have no interest in any Troubles/Irish/whatever topic area, but I do have a bit of experience in WP:NFCC and album artwork issues. Excepting rare circumstances, you can't use cover art outside of an article on the album itself, as it does not satisfy our non-free image policies. Tarc (talk) 12:33, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

SonofSetanta, your editing of image pages used in the Ulster Defence Regiment article violates your topic ban from The Troubles because the Ulster Defence Regiment is a topic related to The Troubles. Additionally, your personal attacks above against Psychonaut, in relation to these images, are completely unwarranted and violate our policy WP:NPA. In enforcement of your topic ban, I am blocking you temporarily.  Sandstein  14:15, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Copyright issues

It's about time I defended myself here. This all started because a copyright enforcer decided I shouldn't use File:The Yellow Card.jpg and several others at Ulster Defence Regiment. I objected and called on Cailil for help. He told me what to do so I filed an NFCC case. After that about four of these copyright enforcers started tagging virtually all the images on any article I had ever edited, including many uploaded by me under my old identities, which they weren't aware of at the time - both old identities were marked as "retired". Some of the deletion tags were only supported by the statement, "suspected of copyvio" and these were generally pictures I had taken myself. I was not happy at all and made it known, but as well as whinging I checked up on the requirements and also contacted OTRS. As a result I rescanned my originals and offered to upload negatives or send entire series of digital pictures to OTRS. I also worked with OTRS to ensure the licencing of my images was correct - it did take some time requiring reuploads and relicencing. During that period I uploaded three images from the Boston Library which I thought qualified for use, they didn't, so I made a mistake there. Apart from that any images I wanted to keep are still there.

My complaint, then and now, was that the copyright enforcers don't try to help someone like me who didn't have the prior knowledge of what to do but who was well intended. They just tag images for deletion and quote something from NFCC without pointing out what the correct procedure is to retain the image. To me that's wrong. They should try to be helpful. Is it any wonder I got paranoid? I got it all sorted though. I still make the occasional error when uploading an image but I know what to do to correct it now. The final block fell into place the other day when an admin declared File:The Yellow Card.jpg to be "kept" showing that it didn't need to be removed from the article in the first place.

This (albeit a potted version) is what some editors are still whinging about . Not the "Battle Royal" Ed Johnston says it was. But it did take almost two weeks for me to sort it all out. As for File:Ulster_Defence_Regiment_Insignia.jpg - all it needs is to be reuploaded as a .png file. It's just colours and apparently JPEG's are not the way to do it. So I reupload the image, nominate the old for one deletion and replace the line in the infobox to end as .png instead of .jpg. Where's the harm? SonofSetanta (talk) 13:26, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not involved and have no interest in these copyright matters, so this is not the forum in which you should defend yourself. But please note that continued discussion of the copyright status of these images violates your The Troubles topic ban.  Sandstein  14:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Undeletion of Page

I was in the process of gathering information to start a page on the term "historytelling" or "history-telling" based on a recent TedX Talk given by Mahyad Tousi at the London Business School. I inteded to link Mahyad Tousi's Wiki to the hitorytelling article since his TedX talk is the most recent use of the term, but I see that you marked it for deletion in March of 2012. I was hoping that you would reconsider undeleting the page.

Cheers, Carlo Diego

Mahyad Tousi's TedX Talk at the London Business School — The Future of History (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4rlMNMsCmw)

Other references to history-telling can be found here:

The Erotics of Retrospection: Historytelling, Audience Response, and the Strategies of Desire, by: Paul Hernadi, New Literary History, Vol. 12, No. 2, Interpretation and Literary History (Winter, 1981), pp. 243-252, Published by: The Johns Hopkins University Press (http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/468669?uid=3739832&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21102586730983)

History Telling, by: James McGrath Morris, The Wilson Quarterly (1976-), Vol. 32, No. 1 (Winter, 2008), pp. 8-9, Published by: Wilson Quarterly (http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40262335?uid=3739832&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21102586730983) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlodiego (talkcontribs) 20:11, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

You mean Historytelling (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)? We have no record of an article with that title or similar spellings.  Sandstein  20:14, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool update

Hey Sandstein. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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Saga (comics)

I would appreciate if you accompanied it with a citation. I worked hard on the Saga article on it getting it Good Article status, so as a friendly note, I'd appreciate it if when adding material like this, that you'd accompany it with a citation of a reliable source. Thanks, Sandstein. Nightscream (talk) 15:45, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

It's sourced in the linked article, Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story, and also further down in the article at Saga (comic book)#Awards. Easily verified factual material doesn't always need inline referencing, especially in the lead, which is not otherwise footnoted much and is a summary of the article. You should look at material more carefully before reverting it with sweeping statements about NOR and V.  Sandstein  15:55, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Notification of amendment request

I have filed an amendment request concerning you. Please see the section on the amendment request page.--The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 01:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)