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A fact from Niggers in the White House appeared on Misplaced Pages's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 September 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that "Niggers in the White House" (1902) was written after President Roosevelt invited Booker T. Washington to the White House? A record of the entry may be seen at Misplaced Pages:Recent additions/2013/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nigg*rs in the White House.

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NOTCENSORED vs. COMMONSENSE

I wasn't trying to censor anything with my edit, but with an article this short, it doesn't seem to be necessary to repeat the fact that "niggers" refers to "African Americans". In the odd case that someone is unaware of this, it is explained clearly in the lede. Repeating it in the body seems entirely unnecessary, given the brevity of this article. Joefromrandb (talk) 19:38, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it belongs in the lead at all, per WP:SUMMARYSTYLE; it arguably is superfluous wherever it is included, and unnecessary.—John Cline (talk) 19:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Fine with me. Joefromrandb (talk) 20:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Horrible

Horrible! Horrible!! Awien (talk) 23:26, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

I know WP isn't censored, but aren't there things like this unutterable filth that are best left in richly-deserved oblivion, not stirred up?

But now the article has been created, could its creator Bonkers the Clown kill it if they thought better of what they're doing?

Or if not, if everybody involved decided publishing this is ill-judged, what would it take to get rid of it?

I wish I hadn't touched the horrible thing.

Awien (talk) 01:06, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

History is rarely nice. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to learn from it. User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:50, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Precisely why I love American history. All the rich vocabulary. Unutterable? Niggers niggers niggers niggers. There! ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 06:56, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Bonkers, you are doing the best you can at making me regret defending this article. I think the reasons you and I find it to be significant are very different.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 12:10, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Deletion policy for your options. The article has multiple substantial contributors now so the creator could no longer have it deleted with {{db-author}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:18, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

By the way, you may be interested in Misplaced Pages:Lamest edit wars#Deletion wars but please don't start the 45th deletion debate. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:23, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, thank you. Awien (talk) 13:46, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Bonkers the Clown, you confirm exactly what I feared, that this is being published very little in a spirit of useful historical documentation, and a whole lot in a spirit of defiant provocation. Extremely unfortunate. Awien (talk) 13:15, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

"Satire"

Every stanza is written in rhyme and employs satire throughout the poem.

Please explain where the satire is, because I can't see anything satirical in the entire poem. It's just repeating the word 'nigger' over and over like a naughty child who's learnt a new swearword. --86.181.17.180 (talk) 07:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Of course there is satire... The white presidential family and the niggers are heavily ridiculed in the poem. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 09:13, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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