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Khwarezmian dynasty

Yeah, I noticed that "source". I did some checking on Encyclopedia Iranica and could not find a "Shahrbanu". I am assuming the "Tajik origins" refers to the Mamunid governors of Khwarezm, but I have not found any evidence to support this. HistoryofIran (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) added that information with the "source", I would suggest contacting him and asking for a better link or better source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:49, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey, if you have time, you might start searching for any evidence regarding Khwarazmian dynasty patronizing Persian culture(ie. "Persianate"). I have been searching since 28 December 2012 and have found nothing. Also, I removed "Tajik origin" and the cooresponding broken link/source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:32, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

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The Kapoors

Regarding your this edit summary, if someone is born in the Pathan-dominated city of Peshawar and lives there for quite many years, including identifying himself as Pathan to everyone, as in the case of Shammi Kapoor , then he is considered a Pathan to the wider world. The fact that Prithviraj Kapoor spoke Pashto makes it more evident and acceptable. This is factual evidence based on research and investigation, which is difference from a mere expression (i.e. I'm king of the world). I'm aware that the later generations stated "I'm a Punjabi" and are labelled as such but this doesn't alter the Pathan finding of their forefathers. There is no need to argue over this, we just need to explain to the readers their connection to one another so that they are aware of all the facts. You seem to think that since some members of the later generations identify selves as Punjabis then we must erace the Pathan finding as an untrue claim. This is pure POV-pushing and not allowed in Misplaced Pages. My edits relate to the first generation, their forefathers, but you keep posting links to the later generations. This is a deliberate attempt to obfuscate and cause confusion. The same is the case with Dilip Kumar, he was born in a Pathan-dominated city of Peshawar and he is considered as Pathan or Pashtun to the wider world. I'll try to read more on him to find out if he ever identified self as Hinkowan or if someone claimed him to be one of those. My advise to you is to remain neutral at all times and stop POV-pushing even if you think you're correct.--Fareed30 (talk) 23:24, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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August 2013

I have blocked you for one week for the same conduct that led to your last block, edit warring and POV-pushing. The next block, if you persist after expiration of this one, will be indefinite. Instructions for requesting an unblock are in the notice from the last block above.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:38, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Why have i been blocked as fareed30 continously changed the words to "Pashtun" which i changed because most of the sources dont consider that right and even his own sources have explained that he was not. I tried to talk to him on his page but he didnt reply. Can you look into his waring too. Thankyou. I am not t hat pro user of wikipedia or else i would have given him warning as he yesterday removed all my sources and wrote all the wrong information Saladin1987 01:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

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I Think my block is unfair as fareed30 continously changed the words to "Pashtun" which i changed because most of the sources that i gave were authentic while his sources were not authentic as his sources were mixture of word pashtun and punjabi which we disagree upon. I tried to talk to him on his page and also asked him to look at his own source for "prithviraj kapoor" article but he didnt reply. Can you look into his contributions as he is always changing every word to pashtun if you look at his edits. Thankyou. Also I am not a really expert user of wikipedia or else i would have given you the notice yesterday when he started the edit war on wikipedia as he yesterday removed all my sources and wrote all the wrong information. I stopped waring because he was never going to stop also he is not even from the country of whom these people belong too,. i would appreciate if you could look at his edits and make a decision of unblocking me. i always edit with sources while he is editing without sources and evenwrites wrong information on wikipedia which is not even present in his sourceSaladin1987 02:05, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

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Here is the evidence regarding your own edits

In addition to above warnings given to you by the other editors , here is the evidence (here, here,here, here and here) that you keep on making edits with really offensive edit summaries. I replied to you in detail on my talk page and yet you turned around and did the same edit again. Regarding Rohail Hayat, I have made just ONE edit (Reverted 1 edit by Saladin1987 (talk) to last revision by 007avenger007.) and UrduWire (a forum) and Facecook are not very reliable sources as per Misplaced Pages guidelines. Thank you. McKhan 14:48, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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please study links and decide. Thankyou

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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=I am really sad because its the same thing that happened to me last time but in case of ] where he says its pathani and peshwari thing us referred to peshawaris who are actually hindko punjabis coz neither is Fareed30 from Pakistan nor any one else here as i am from there i know what that means in real, as myself i am peshawari from my dad side but i am not pathan, Also if you look at ] article what he did was right by placing ethnicity of his son interview while my source where daughter of Anil kapoor ] made it clear that she was punjabi but as you dont understand the language but if you ask from any Indian over here he will let you know that she is punjabi, while Anil Kapoor mentioned His moustache is pathani thing, Also i had started conversation on Talk pages before i removed the ethnic terms so that first we can come on consencus here ]]] but i am blocked because i think i was doing the right thing that we shoudl do discussion and then we should find a solution and place it in the wikipedia articles. Also i have carried out regular converstaion at ] ] and i have provided various links where whoel family of ] is saying they are Punjabis but all that hard work of mine has been ignored here ] but instead i have been caught up for ] ] articles just because i removed the ethincity as it is disputed as if Fareed30 doesnt accept my source where daughter of Anil Kapoor is saying she is punjabi then why is he editing Surinder Kapoor based on what his son says. Sonam Kapoor here clearly mentions she is punjabi and ofcourse if she is punjabi then so is his Dad ] . But i cant use talk page because i am blocked, So i want to ask if i reverted the articles to the ones there should be no ethnicity then why did he ] revert the articles here until he had come on consencus before and then he should have chnaged the articles, if there is some regular editing going on a artilce then that article should be discussed on talk page and ethnicity should be removed and finally a proposal should be achieved , he reverted here]]]] but i didnt revert back his edits but i started converstaion on talk pages, but he just placed one request for the bannning thing and i am banned. Also i dont say what he has done is wrong, i say i havent done anything wrong because i started talk conversation unlike before when i never use to start the talk pages and i was banned, the ban that has been placed on me is because of my previous bad performance, but if this is the case then no person will be able to improve even if he wants to like i did. The sources that he provides are even less to what i provided asmy sources are from the direct mouths of kapoor family, his sources are from a writer,,,Also i think that in case of ] and ] i should be treated fairly because here ] i have mentioned that lets talk on talk page and then get a concensus but he didt edit warring by reverting the article again ,also here ] he reverted it but i invited him to talk pages but he didnt come there, so is it my mistake that i even didnt add any Punjabi word in the articles, i just removed ethnicity so that we can come on concensus but instead i have been banned , if you look at my recent edits in ] and ], you will find no ethnic terms. Thankyou if you can have a look at the links above and see that i was trying to be productive this time not like last time but i shouldnt be treated like a prisoner who has done something wrong in the past and all his future will be assesed accoridng to his actions in the past. Saladin. Also if you could look at the article here ] Anil Kapoors daughter clearly mentions that her family is punjabi, this is a second source, |3 = ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=I am really sad because its the same thing that happened to me last time but in case of ] where he says its pathani and peshwari thing us referred to peshawaris who are actually hindko punjabis coz neither is Fareed30 from Pakistan nor any one else here as i am from there i know what that means in real, as myself i am peshawari from my dad side but i am not pathan, Also if you look at ] article what he did was right by placing ethnicity of his son interview while my source where daughter of Anil kapoor ] made it clear that she was punjabi but as you dont understand the language but if you ask from any Indian over here he will let you know that she is punjabi, while Anil Kapoor mentioned His moustache is pathani thing, Also i had started conversation on Talk pages before i removed the ethnic terms so that first we can come on consencus here ]]] but i am blocked because i think i was doing the right thing that we shoudl do discussion and then we should find a solution and place it in the wikipedia articles. Also i have carried out regular converstaion at ] ] and i have provided various links where whoel family of ] is saying they are Punjabis but all that hard work of mine has been ignored here ] but instead i have been caught up for ] ] articles just because i removed the ethincity as it is disputed as if Fareed30 doesnt accept my source where daughter of Anil Kapoor is saying she is punjabi then why is he editing Surinder Kapoor based on what his son says. Sonam Kapoor here clearly mentions she is punjabi and ofcourse if she is punjabi then so is his Dad ] . But i cant use talk page because i am blocked, So i want to ask if i reverted the articles to the ones there should be no ethnicity then why did he ] revert the articles here until he had come on consencus before and then he should have chnaged the articles, if there is some regular editing going on a artilce then that article should be discussed on talk page and ethnicity should be removed and finally a proposal should be achieved , he reverted here]]]] but i didnt revert back his edits but i started converstaion on talk pages, but he just placed one request for the bannning thing and i am banned. Also i dont say what he has done is wrong, i say i havent done anything wrong because i started talk conversation unlike before when i never use to start the talk pages and i was banned, the ban that has been placed on me is because of my previous bad performance, but if this is the case then no person will be able to improve even if he wants to like i did. The sources that he provides are even less to what i provided asmy sources are from the direct mouths of kapoor family, his sources are from a writer,,,Also i think that in case of ] and ] i should be treated fairly because here ] i have mentioned that lets talk on talk page and then get a concensus but he didt edit warring by reverting the article again ,also here ] he reverted it but i invited him to talk pages but he didnt come there, so is it my mistake that i even didnt add any Punjabi word in the articles, i just removed ethnicity so that we can come on concensus but instead i have been banned , if you look at my recent edits in ] and ], you will find no ethnic terms. Thankyou if you can have a look at the links above and see that i was trying to be productive this time not like last time but i shouldnt be treated like a prisoner who has done something wrong in the past and all his future will be assesed accoridng to his actions in the past. Saladin. Also if you could look at the article here ] Anil Kapoors daughter clearly mentions that her family is punjabi, this is a second source, |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=I am really sad because its the same thing that happened to me last time but in case of ] where he says its pathani and peshwari thing us referred to peshawaris who are actually hindko punjabis coz neither is Fareed30 from Pakistan nor any one else here as i am from there i know what that means in real, as myself i am peshawari from my dad side but i am not pathan, Also if you look at ] article what he did was right by placing ethnicity of his son interview while my source where daughter of Anil kapoor ] made it clear that she was punjabi but as you dont understand the language but if you ask from any Indian over here he will let you know that she is punjabi, while Anil Kapoor mentioned His moustache is pathani thing, Also i had started conversation on Talk pages before i removed the ethnic terms so that first we can come on consencus here ]]] but i am blocked because i think i was doing the right thing that we shoudl do discussion and then we should find a solution and place it in the wikipedia articles. Also i have carried out regular converstaion at ] ] and i have provided various links where whoel family of ] is saying they are Punjabis but all that hard work of mine has been ignored here ] but instead i have been caught up for ] ] articles just because i removed the ethincity as it is disputed as if Fareed30 doesnt accept my source where daughter of Anil Kapoor is saying she is punjabi then why is he editing Surinder Kapoor based on what his son says. Sonam Kapoor here clearly mentions she is punjabi and ofcourse if she is punjabi then so is his Dad ] . But i cant use talk page because i am blocked, So i want to ask if i reverted the articles to the ones there should be no ethnicity then why did he ] revert the articles here until he had come on consencus before and then he should have chnaged the articles, if there is some regular editing going on a artilce then that article should be discussed on talk page and ethnicity should be removed and finally a proposal should be achieved , he reverted here]]]] but i didnt revert back his edits but i started converstaion on talk pages, but he just placed one request for the bannning thing and i am banned. Also i dont say what he has done is wrong, i say i havent done anything wrong because i started talk conversation unlike before when i never use to start the talk pages and i was banned, the ban that has been placed on me is because of my previous bad performance, but if this is the case then no person will be able to improve even if he wants to like i did. The sources that he provides are even less to what i provided asmy sources are from the direct mouths of kapoor family, his sources are from a writer,,,Also i think that in case of ] and ] i should be treated fairly because here ] i have mentioned that lets talk on talk page and then get a concensus but he didt edit warring by reverting the article again ,also here ] he reverted it but i invited him to talk pages but he didnt come there, so is it my mistake that i even didnt add any Punjabi word in the articles, i just removed ethnicity so that we can come on concensus but instead i have been banned , if you look at my recent edits in ] and ], you will find no ethnic terms. Thankyou if you can have a look at the links above and see that i was trying to be productive this time not like last time but i shouldnt be treated like a prisoner who has done something wrong in the past and all his future will be assesed accoridng to his actions in the past. Saladin. Also if you could look at the article here ] Anil Kapoors daughter clearly mentions that her family is punjabi, this is a second source, |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

Saladin1987 01:50, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm not going to weigh in, but OMG, have you ever read WP:TLDR? Do you understand the concept? Daniel Case (talk) 18:36, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

I think what Saladin is trying to say is that he has been discussing the ethnicity issue on the talk page, that he removed the ethnicity of the people in question because that ethnicity is disputed, and therefore he doesn't understand why he is blocked. He also says that his previous block was for not using the talk page, but that he is clearly doing so now and the previous block (his past) should not be held against him. --regentspark (comment) 20:15, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

A masterpiece of concision. I've commented at ANI.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:53, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

If any admin with CU tool can run a CU on Saladin1987, it will be discovered that he's another editor's sockpuppet. I know him, he's an aggressive edit-warrior of Pakistani origin living near the Sydney area in Australia and has used dozens of socks for disruptive purposes in the past and probably using others now as we speak.--Fareed30 (talk) 17:52, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi thankyou so much for reading. I know its too long but in order to explain myself i had to write this long statement. But as Regentspark here mentions that in the past i didnt use the talk pages but this time i have been using the talk pages and i have provided alot fo sources and that are authentic as they are directly from the mouths of some people belonging to Anil Kapoor and Prithviraj Kapoor. I know when there is some disagrrement on a certain thing in an article talk page should be used in order to get a solution to the problem, if the sources on the both sides are of equal weight then that thing should be left out as that may cause confusion for alot of people.In case of Prithviraj Kapoor the talk page was used but Fareed30 instead of giving proper arguments called by sources as nonsense while his source is only one book and even in that book there are alot of places where my sources have come from. In case of Anil Kapoor i also provided a youtube source of her daughter and he said youtube is not an authentic source while he himself was using one. Secondly if he says that the daughter of Anil kapoor says that she is punjabi but anil kapoor himself said they are pathan then why did he edit Boney Kapoor and Sanjay Kapoor the brothers of Anil Kapoor on just the statement that he said he is pathan , then if you look at it like this then whatever daughter of Anil Kapoor says should have made all of them punjabis, but that is the reason i removed the ethncity term and used talk pages and invited him too.Thankyou Saladin1987 08:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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