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| : Okay. I'll draft it out and put it up tomorrow. I have some articles to merge... a lot of them, over at the D&D project. I'm in the middle of rewriting the list of deities page and making use of the long forgotten pages like ] and ] and combine them into working character lists. It'd be a bad thing to mention I plan to do this to some articles on A&M? Right? ] (]) 04:07, 6 October 2013 (UTC) | : Okay. I'll draft it out and put it up tomorrow. I have some articles to merge... a lot of them, over at the D&D project. I'm in the middle of rewriting the list of deities page and making use of the long forgotten pages like ] and ] and combine them into working character lists. It'd be a bad thing to mention I plan to do this to some articles on A&M? Right? ] (]) 04:07, 6 October 2013 (UTC) | ||
| :: Yes, until there is a solid consensus on the things you want I would wait it out, saying you are going to do x to article z is only going to get editors to say not all articles are alike, you are pushing your point ect.... - ] (]) 04:10, 6 October 2013 (UTC) | :: Yes, until there is a solid consensus on the things you want I would wait it out, saying you are going to do x to article z is only going to get editors to say not all articles are alike, you are pushing your point ect.... - ] (]) 04:10, 6 October 2013 (UTC) | ||
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Hi Chris, Over the weekend, I expanded the AWB regexes for dmy based on recent status of my various scripts and have also made a small test run. While it seems to work well enough, some of the rules, such as removing certain comments, don't seem to work. I should say once again that my scripts have protection to some degree, whilst the ABW module has no inherent protection, and relies on that built into AWB itself, and the more rules I put in, the more these limits may be tested. Among changes you will notice is that there is more downcasing of commonly capitalised terms, and reduction in the incidence of chain-linking involving countries: In addition to a small number of countries, nationalities and languages that were unlinked, linked countries at the end of a line will also be unlinked. But as usual, feel free to let me know if there are more tweaks I can add, of if you want some taken out. Regards, -- Ohc ¿que pasa? 01:34, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, with the next database dump, I will resume the project. I think any issues with DATE has been effectively resolved as hundreds and thousands of the same type of edits are performed by a bot without issue. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:04, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Chris, would you please clarify what you mean by "issues with DATE". Regards, -- Ohc ¿que pasa? 03:27, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- The linking of years without reason, like 1973 or 1741 or July 18, all in articles unrelated to the actual year or date in question. You know, the ones hotly contested for Year in "something"? Many of those have been fixed in accordance with the MOS by a bot, and I didn't see any objections raised. So problem solved... I think. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:33, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- You must be talking about User:Full-date unlinking bot. That singularly transformed sentiment about linking practices all across WP, not just dates... ;-) -- Ohc ¿que pasa? 06:06, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- I think it was one by Mag or something, but I forgot the name of it. In any case, the database dump should be up next week and I can start again. Got a bunch of GANs up, but they should not interfere too much with gnoming. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- You must be talking about User:Full-date unlinking bot. That singularly transformed sentiment about linking practices all across WP, not just dates... ;-) -- Ohc ¿que pasa? 06:06, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- The linking of years without reason, like 1973 or 1741 or July 18, all in articles unrelated to the actual year or date in question. You know, the ones hotly contested for Year in "something"? Many of those have been fixed in accordance with the MOS by a bot, and I didn't see any objections raised. So problem solved... I think. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:33, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Chris, would you please clarify what you mean by "issues with DATE". Regards, -- Ohc ¿que pasa? 03:27, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
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GAN for Taiko
Hi Chris-- I know your speciality is in Anime and Manga, but I wanted to ask if you might consider reviewing the good article nomination for the article on taiko, which I've been trying to improve over the last month or so. If you're not interested, that's completely fine, but if you have any suggestions on how the article might be improved, feel free to make changes or suggest them to me. I, JethroBT 21:45, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'll do it on my days off, but I'll put in a request for the books through the library to double check sources and content. For a complete review it may take me more than a week to assemble the sources and a few additional ones. The page is far better than the Japanese one, but theomission some kanji terms and the use of shaku without the context can be confusing. Also, historical musical pieces played on the drum would be nice to have for some context. Usage in popular culture should probably included instead of a "see also" and Taiko no Tatsujin is deserving of a few lines itself. Some additional sources I'd like to see consulted include: And so on an so forth. The further reading section should definately be worked in for more competing views and scope. The article is indeed good, but for type of musical instrument the "broad" aspect becomes rather FA like because it cannot be comprehensive on a single page unless it deals with the whole. With that being said, the types are fairly well covered, but so much commentary and insight into the drums. The drum makers are absent, and so is details on the construction and drum materials. The wood is perfectly fine, but I see nothing on the drumhead. So its indeed good, but its got some missing content still. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 02:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks Chris, great suggestions. (I was nodding my head the whole way through reading your response!) I'll get started on some these issues right away. I, JethroBT 02:50, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- And to think I was just rambling on for a few moments about some observations! ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:17, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- It seems a number of these topics are not accessible online (or just in snippets without sufficient context), so it's off to the library for me as well! I, JethroBT 19:17, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- The resource exchange board would probably get most of those. WP:RX has helped me out before. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:26, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll check this out. I do have database access, so that should be OK for the articles. Most of the books are accessible to me through the Chicago Public Library too, so it's just a matter of waiting. One thing I want to point out is that it may be helpful (at some point) to fork some content on some of the types of drums because they are so common (e.g. there was already a page on shime-daiko before I started improving this one). Not sure how you want to factor this consideration into the GAN, but I certainly understand the need for breadth for a musical instrument (though in this case, it's a very wide variety of instruments). I, JethroBT 20:34, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- You'll have the burden of being broad, whereas individual articles on specific types of drums will have to be more specific on the individual development and construction. A FA or GA on a musical instrument is not an easy thing to do, much less a foreign instrument. In a sense, the article almost already surpasses parts of the GA aspect, but filling a few holes in would make it better, since they have been pointed out. I just have to go through one or two more books tonight and I'll pick up the review. I've got to return 6 books to the library by the 8th and 1 by the 4th that I haven't only begun reading. Adult Manga by Sharon Kinsey is the book I need to rewrite manga because it has a lot of coverage on the development and industry of adult-targeted comics (not pornographic either) and I got Anime Classics Zettai and I still got to review Anime Explosion. On the 9th my Little Boy book has to go back as well. I got only 6 others due by November after that, but I had to do three books on the 2nd so I blew through them in two days and got plenty of notes and material scattered on my desk and computer. I take my research very seriously; I do GA fairly to the criteria, but if you get it to FA level, I could be a demanding person and offer additional notes and back and forth about commentary. You do realize that in my anime and manga research that I typically find publication errors and sometimes solve decades old mysteries through studious research? Asking me to review something I take an interest in is a sure-fire way to make sure its vetted and checked against anything and everything I can get my hands on. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 20:46, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- That sounds great-- I like a thorough review. I think you will find me a very receptive person to improvements and suggestions. I may have questions for clarification, but I don't try to fight tooth and nail over every little thing. It will be helpful to have another head in this, too, because I've already come across some discrepancies in the literature on certain matters (e.g. just today, I've come across conflicts over what constitutes "traditional" construction of drums...also considering that it might be better to just avoid the word "traditional" altogether in some spots here). In any case, I'm in this for the long haul, so I'm committed to making improvements for GA (and eventually FA) for as long as it takes. This was article had zero citations when I started working on it and a giant bibliography at the bottom...a great deal of which are unreliable sources. I've done a lot, but as you say, there's work left to do. Let's just say I like a good challenge, so I'm ready for your scrutiny. : ) I, JethroBT 21:00, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- You'll have the burden of being broad, whereas individual articles on specific types of drums will have to be more specific on the individual development and construction. A FA or GA on a musical instrument is not an easy thing to do, much less a foreign instrument. In a sense, the article almost already surpasses parts of the GA aspect, but filling a few holes in would make it better, since they have been pointed out. I just have to go through one or two more books tonight and I'll pick up the review. I've got to return 6 books to the library by the 8th and 1 by the 4th that I haven't only begun reading. Adult Manga by Sharon Kinsey is the book I need to rewrite manga because it has a lot of coverage on the development and industry of adult-targeted comics (not pornographic either) and I got Anime Classics Zettai and I still got to review Anime Explosion. On the 9th my Little Boy book has to go back as well. I got only 6 others due by November after that, but I had to do three books on the 2nd so I blew through them in two days and got plenty of notes and material scattered on my desk and computer. I take my research very seriously; I do GA fairly to the criteria, but if you get it to FA level, I could be a demanding person and offer additional notes and back and forth about commentary. You do realize that in my anime and manga research that I typically find publication errors and sometimes solve decades old mysteries through studious research? Asking me to review something I take an interest in is a sure-fire way to make sure its vetted and checked against anything and everything I can get my hands on. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 20:46, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll check this out. I do have database access, so that should be OK for the articles. Most of the books are accessible to me through the Chicago Public Library too, so it's just a matter of waiting. One thing I want to point out is that it may be helpful (at some point) to fork some content on some of the types of drums because they are so common (e.g. there was already a page on shime-daiko before I started improving this one). Not sure how you want to factor this consideration into the GAN, but I certainly understand the need for breadth for a musical instrument (though in this case, it's a very wide variety of instruments). I, JethroBT 20:34, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- The resource exchange board would probably get most of those. WP:RX has helped me out before. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 19:26, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks Chris, great suggestions. (I was nodding my head the whole way through reading your response!) I'll get started on some these issues right away. I, JethroBT 02:50, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- I've scored a cache of documents and I noticed some Wikiproject mess so I'm going to be fixing a bunch of things up while I wait for the books to come in. I'm going to take the GAN now, but it will be some time before I get everything I need. Do you mind the wait? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:24, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- No problem-- just keep me posted on when you think you might get officially started. I just stopped by the library yesterday to place a hold on the books I need (which are Varian's Way of Taiko and Bender's Taiko Boom. In the meantime, I can start adding information from the sources you scrounged up above. I, JethroBT 17:00, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- I am going to see what I can do on Wiki while I wait for mediation and the books. I think fixing the WP:USA assessment and making it functional and worth checking will be a good side project. I'm like the only person who cares to do such work on Misplaced Pages, but losing it would be bad because a high level project sort function is better than a bunch of low level ones for international studies and focus. If there is a fault with the organization and operation of a system, many people will abandon or call for its removal rather than its fixing simply because cleaning it up takes longer than passing it into obscurity or removing it entirely. Which ironically, would take more work at this point. Why few people appreciate such things is beyond me, but it is a good feeling to have your hard work be useful to someone, right? A scholarly topic on Taiko does more for the education and appreciation of the work than playing in some band or giving some speeches. Misplaced Pages is a good platform in that sense, but the goal is to represent the sum of all human knowledge and have easy accessibility to that information. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:09, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- No problem-- just keep me posted on when you think you might get officially started. I just stopped by the library yesterday to place a hold on the books I need (which are Varian's Way of Taiko and Bender's Taiko Boom. In the meantime, I can start adding information from the sources you scrounged up above. I, JethroBT 17:00, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
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Here is what I want you to do
I want you to goto Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Anime and manga and in a layout submit what you want for changes to WP:MOSAM, go case by case "proposal 1, Proposal 2, Proposal 3" Chris I would do this for you but it has to be from you as you know what you want. What not to do: 1. "Edit on your beliefs even if you think you are right 2. Continue discussing other article examples each case is different 3. Not quit because if you do it will just give the others what they want if what you say is true. Now if you still are getting shafted after making an RfC on your proposals then it can go back to WP:ANI sound good? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:03, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll draft it out and put it up tomorrow. I have some articles to merge... a lot of them, over at the D&D project. I'm in the middle of rewriting the list of deities page and making use of the long forgotten pages like Dwarf deities and Orc deities and combine them into working character lists. It'd be a bad thing to mention I plan to do this to some articles on A&M? Right? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:07, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, until there is a solid consensus on the things you want I would wait it out, saying you are going to do x to article z is only going to get editors to say not all articles are alike, you are pushing your point ect.... - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:10, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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