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French Republican Calendar

It, along with the Julian Calendar are both historically significant and should be included. Crohall (talk) 22:26, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

It can't be. How that calendar deals with leap years is underspecified, so it's generally not possible to extrapolate dates outside the period it was in use.

That's reasonable, but it should be displayed at least for years _inside_ the period it was in use. It feels decidedly odd to see e.g. 1797 list the Juche calendar and not the French Republic calendar.

—Psychonaut (talk) 14:03, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 December 2011

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I think that you could add the Tibetan calendar to the calendar list in all the years. Thank you. 216.56.2.200 (talk) 17:50, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

If you can write the code for it, please feel free to offer it here - but looking at Tibetan calendar, it would be far too hard for me ;-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:22, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Declining for now. Editprotected requests should be accompanied by working code: they aren't just for suggesting features. I agree that in principle this would be an interesting addition, but having this page show up at CAT:EP for weeks / months until an implementation is available isn't appropriate. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:12, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Tamil Calender

Hai,

Happy new year to all my Wikipedians. Here Tamil calender is missing. can you add in these? - ahamed5zal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahamed5zal (talk • contribs) 12:44, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 January 2012 - Maya Long Count and Julian day number (astronomy)

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in the template with the various calendars and unix time, you should include (add) what is really an absolute calendar - the age of the universe, 13.7 billion years (see wiki page for WMAP for details) otherwise it is incomplete

edit: after the Unix time, please add this line:

Age of the Universe 13730 million years to within 1% (120 million years)

note that this is the most recent (21 nov 2011) info from the official source (nr.2) here http://wmap.gsfc.nasa.gov/ (I prefer to avoid "billion" as that has different meanings in different countries)

91.201.80.240 (talk) 13:27, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. In particular, please detail the exact code that needs to be added/changed and where. Danger 11:24, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

(in response to edited post) I'm not sure if that would be appropriate here, since the degree of uncertainty involved would mean that this doesn't really tell you much about individual years. But I'm open to putting it in if there's a consensus for it. Tra (Talk) 13:41, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree that being within 120 million years of the actual year is not accurate enough to give you the exact year though the universe age is significant. What about adding the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar date? April 1, 2012, in the Long Count is 12.19.19.4.16 (GMT correlation); 13.0.0.0.0 corresponds to December 21, 2012.

 Not done: little evidence to suggest this is really a notable enough figure to include in this comparison. It isn't supposed to be comprehensive. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:19, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

There is little evidence that the Maya Mesoamerican Long Count calendar is notable enough to add here? That's a good one. The whole 2012 thing is based on it as well as several documentaries on Discovery Channel. You have the Bahai 168 and British regnal year 60 listed, both of which are far less notable or significant than the Maya Long Count which has cycles of 5125 years, the current one starting in 3114 BC. I suggest to add the Maya Mesoamerican Long Count calendar to the template. Could also add the Julian day (current value 2456037) which is used in all astronomy applications, and like the Maya Long Count, is more notable than Bahai or British regnal year - if the template is not supposed to be comprehensive but includes less notable stuff then it is biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.201.80.240 (talk) 14:39, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  Sandstein  22:01, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

hello Sandstein, ok, you could add something like this (these are the Maya long count dates using the standard GMT 584283 correlation constant as in the wikipedia page Maya Mesoamerican Long Count calendar and Julian day number corresponding to beginning and end of 2012)

short answer, 2012 in maya long count is the range 12 19 19 0 5 --- 13 0 0 0 10; 2012 in Julian day (astronomy) is the range 2455927.5 --- 2456292.5;

• maya long count= date = corresponding Julian day (astronomy)
• 12 19 19 0 5 = 2012 jan 01 = 2455927.5
• 13 0 0 0 0 = 2012 dec 21 = 2456282.5 (new baktun starts here - once every 5125 years)
• 13 0 0 0 10 = 2012 dec 31 = 2456292.5
• 13 0 0 0 11 = 2013 jan 01 = 2456293.5
• the 5 numbers making up a maya long count date are:
• b'ak'tun, k'atun, tun, winal, k'in;

some sample references (there are many more on the net) http://www.pauahtun.org/cgi-bin/gregmaya.py maya long count date converter http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEhelp/julian.html julian day converter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.201.80.240 (talk) 15:04, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Declining (again). This will require for a converter to be written, which is beyond the bounds of an editprotected request. You could try asking at Misplaced Pages:Requested templates to see if someone can do that. Once the code exists, an editprotected request can be raised to incorporate it (and I'll happily add it), but it doesn't make sense to leave this open pending someone doing all that work. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 15:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Such a converter already exists in wikipedia as Template:Maya date. What should be done to icorporate it in this template ? --Frédéric Grosshans (talk) 10:05, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Juche Calendar

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If the Minguo calendar has been added, then why not have the Juche calendar added as well? Lm2f (talk) 15:11, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

• I concur. The Juche calendar is in use by about the same number of people as the Minguo calendar (roughly 24 million). The conversion from Gregorian seems fairly straightforward; see Juche#Calendar and North Korean calendar for details. Years before 1912 CE should probably be rendered as "N/A", since the calendar doesn't apply to dates before its epoch. —Psychonaut (talk) 14:10, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
  •  Not done: please provide a working implementation before raising editprotected requests. Happy to oblige once code has been added to the sandbox and tested. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Julian calendar needs to be added

It will always (usually?) be the same year as the Gregorian calendar, but it should still be on this list as it is still used in some areas of the world — FoxCE (talk | contribs) 12:06, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

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I added the Julian calendar to Template:Year in other calendars/sandbox. I tested the template changes on the years 47 BC, 46 BC, 45 BC, 1 BC, 1, 1581, 1582, 1583, 1699, 1700, 1701, 1702, 1799, 1800, 1801, 1802, 1899, 1900, 1901, 1902, and 2012 against Gregorian_calendar#Difference_between_Gregorian_and_Julian_calendar_dates.

Description and justification:

• The Julian calendar is still used by the Berber people and on Mount Athos, and most branches of the Orthodox Church use the Julian calendar for calculating the dates of moveable feasts, including Easter (Pascha). For the purposes of the articles where this template appears (e.g., year article 1582), the Julian year number is identical to the Gregorian year number. To include the Julian year in the template, it is included in alphabetical order (although just below the Gregorian year also makes sense), with the number of days difference between the Julian and Gregorian calendars. This number starts out with minus 10 in the year 1582 when the Gregorian calendar was introduced, and slowly changes, with the current year being minus 13 (see Gregorian_calendar#Difference_between_Gregorian_and_Julian_calendar_dates). In the template, before 1582, the Julian year is the same as the Gregorian year. It is possible to improve the template to show the number of days difference when the Gregorian calendar was proleptic, as in conversion between Julian and Gregorian calendars, but this was not done. Obankston (talk) 07:19, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I copied the code from the sandbox to the main template. — Carl (CBM · talk) 01:51, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for making the change. I do have another change to the template in the sandbox, this time to the first item in the template. It is incorrect to refer to all years as Gregorian, because the Gregorian calendar first took effect in 1582, and is the Proleptic Gregorian calendar in 1581 and prior years. The Julian calendar first took effect in its final form in 4 AD, and is the Proleptic Julian calendar in 3 AD and prior years. The comment to the change to the template should say "prior edit added Julian calendar; this edit corrected Gregorian calendar to be proleptic before 1582 AD and Julian calendar to be proleptic before 4 AD".

Changes not done yet: Japanese and Julian calendars (and maybe others) in years before the calendar existed should show N/A instead of blank; calendars that show negative years should have spaces around the ndash if the years are negative, and no spaces around the ndash if the years are positive.

Declining for now. Please use the sandbox to incorporate and test these features: once we have working and tested code, an editprotected request can be raised to push it to the live template. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 15:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Chinese zodiac

I was surprised when the Year template did not include the Chinese zodiac (Animal). There was already a request for this, but it was included in the Egyptian calender. I would expect the Chinese calender to include "Year of the ______" at the end of its section. I as aware that this would make the section even longer than its overextended size, but i would argue that that is necessary. — Leaches (talk) 03:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 June 2012

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The winter olympic games are scheduled to start in february of this year

Thank you

You seem to be on the wrong page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:18, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Nanakshahi Calendar- Calendar of Sikh Religion

I think Nanakshahi Calendar should be added to this. Sikhism is the world's 5th largest organised religion. http://en.wikipedia.org/Nanakshahi_calendar Theman244 (talk) 05:08, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Buddhist Calendar

Please add Buddhist Calendar under Other Calendars — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.162.8.57 (talk) 18:36, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request: Dab link to Regnal years of English monarchs

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Please edit the line

| [[Regnal year|{{#ifeq: ...

to read

| [[Regnal years of English monarchs|{{#ifeq: ...

to disambiguate the link labelled English (or British) regnal year. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 15:53, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Done. James086 19:21, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request: Juche year (implementation)

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Here's a working implementation of Juche year calculation (view the source):

The current year in the Gregorian calendar, 2025, can also be written as 114

It subtracts the year, and deals correctly with years before 1912, which are rendered as N/A. It has been properly tested, on this talk page and in the sandbox.

Please add it to the template, i.e., add the following lines after Japanese calendar:

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 | {{#ifexpr: <noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly> > 1911 | {{#expr:{{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}-1911 }} | N/A (before 1912)}}

This has been previously requested on this talk page, but this is the first implementation proposed. Thanks. — AJF (talk) 22:01, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

 Done, or rather mostly done. I have tweaked your code slightly after testing it on the template sandbox and adding some test cases on the test cases page. It now handles specifying the year with |year= properly, which it didn't do before. (It was spitting out an error message if the page title wasn't a number.) Thanks for the code, though! :) Also, if anyone has a spare moment, the documentation really needs writing. At the moment the parameters are all completely undocumented. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius 12:14, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Also, from the test cases page, it is apparent that the Gregorian calendar code does not work with BC values properly, so that could be a project for someone interested who has a bit of spare time. :) (This doesn't have anything to do with this particular request - it looks like this part of the template has never supported the |year= parameter for BC dates.) — Mr. Stradivarius 12:20, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! AJF (talk) 00:32, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Igbo calendar

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Please add the Nri-Igbo/Igbo calendar, 2012 is 1012/1013.

Use edit to copy code.

• Code here

References are on the main Igbo calendar page, plus: 2010/2011 (1011th), 2008/2009 (1009th), 2008/2009 (1009th), 2004/2005 (1005th), details of the 1004th year on the official site, and so on.

Thanks. Ukabia - talk 16:22, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done — Mr. Stradivarius 10:12, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. Ukabia - talk 21:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 February 2013

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Just some link fixes:

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TJ Spyke 23:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Done! Plastikspork _―Œ 00:19, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Thiruvalluvar Calendar

Can Thiruvalluvar calendar be added to this  Doctor Bruno  17:25, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Holocene Era

Having dates numbered in the Holocene Era (which currently re-directs to the Human Era, would make my life a whole lot simpler when researching Paleoclimatology. If it can't be done on Misplaced Pages, would someone please contact me on my talk page and tell where I can get, or how to make, a spreadsheet that can do it. --Pawyilee (talk) 16:10, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Auto collapse

I see this article 2013 and realise that the boxes on the right are too lengthy. What do you think of putting auto-collapse on this template? Thanks, New worl (talk) 06:48, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request: Catholic Anno Mundi

The Catholic creation date, 20 March 5199 BC, is very widely used in the West, and should be included. By using this calculation, 2013 is Anno Mundi 7212-7213. And since the Orthodox, Jewish, and Islamic calendars are included, it would be only fair to add the date used by 1.2 Billion Catholics worldwide. --Daniel the duck (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:29, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Cite? I thought the "established" pre-reformation (that is, before there were such things as "Catholic" and "Protestant") date for the creation was in 4004 BC. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:16, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

On second thought, those not actually used in calendars should be removed. That is an unusual, but possibly commonly used date; but it's not used in AM calculations. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:22, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

The Nuremberg Chronicle of 1493 (before the Reformation) shows 5199 BC (here is the link to the book http://www.obrasraras.usp.br/obras/000192/), as do all other Western books from that era . 4004 BC was invented in the 17th Century (Ussher Chronology), and is not widely accepted by any denomination. And it was used in AM calculations. The Roman Martyology, approved by the Popes twice, also uses 5199 BC, as do the Chronicle of Eusebius, Mary of Agreda, and Jerome when he used that date while translating the Scriptures. --Daniel the duck (talk) 23:37, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

The code is on the sandbox for the template. Daniel the duck (talk) 14:39, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Do you have any modern, scholarly sources? We don't usually use primary historical documents for citations per WP:PRIMARY. (The point being that scholars have the knowledge to interpret historical documents, but ordinary Wikipedians probably don't.) — Mr. Stradivarius 14:42, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Many of the calendars listed aren't "modern, scholarly". However, the Roman Martyology, which I mentioned, is considered liturgical in the Church, and thus is still current. And the Vulgate of Jerome, which also used 5199 BC, is still the official bible translation and chronology of the Church. I'm not sure if the other sources used are Primary or not, but they show that this date has been used since ancient times. Daniel the duck (talk) 23:13, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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 Not done: Sorry, but without any sources that pass WP:RS, I don't feel comfortable with fulfilling this edit request. I suggest asking at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Christianity for their advice - there are plenty of editors there who will know more about the subject than me and who might be able to assist you with finding sources. Also, it will help if you can add the relevant code to the template sandbox so that your change can be tested as per WP:TESTCASES. Best — Mr. Stradivarius 10:49, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

kurdish calendar,please add

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hello.please add kurdish calendar.below is the code.thank you.

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| {{#ifeq: {{#expr:({{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}+700) > 0}} | 1 | {{#expr:{{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}+699 }}–{{#expr:{{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}+700 }} | {{#expr:(-1)*({{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}+699)}} BP – {{#expr:(-1)*({{{year|<noinclude>{{CURRENTYEAR}}</noinclude><includeonly>{{PAGENAME}}</includeonly>}}}+700)}} BP}}

Maged ghafary (talk) 20:13, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done — Mr. Stradivarius 00:43, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Please remove, unless references are given for the calendar calculation used and for the calendar usage. Also, compare article Kurdish calendar. @Mr. Stradivarius: There should be a minimum of checking prior to changing a template transcluded in thousands of pages. --WolfgangRieger (talk) 21:37, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry - I checked that the code wasn't broken, but I should have checked the sources for the dates as well. Undone. — Mr. Stradivarius 08:34, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I will revert the other global "kurdish calendar"-insertions by this user. Done on bn, de, es, ja, pt, ru, simple, tr, zh. Note on talk page on fa, it. Nothing done at ar. --WolfgangRieger (talk) 09:01, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I use the ckb.wikipedia the kurdish wikipedia page for writing these codes if you see this page (http://ckb.wikipedia.org/داڕێژە:ساڵ_لە_ڕۆژژمێرەکانی_دیکە ) you will see 2012=٢٧١٢ – ٢٧١٣(2712-2713) in kurdish calendar.in the kurdish calendar page I think the kudish calendar page in english will need edit.any way i couldn't find any sources in english to prove this.

 Not done: Sorry, but now that there has been an objection, we need sources before we can reinstate the edit. (Note that the sources don't have to be in English.) — Mr. Stradivarius 02:03, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 July 2013

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II need to put down Siberian Calender, the year there is 1951.. 166.137.156.34 (talk) 03:25, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Not done for now: Hi there. Could you add the relevant code to the template sandbox? If you need any help with the coding, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or you could also ask at WikiProject Templates or at the Village pump (technical). Have a look at WP:TESTCASES to see the usual process we use to update templates. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius 13:13, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Does not for work for year=551 and year=645 (script errors)

{{Year in other calendars|year=551}} gives:

Same story with year=645. The Armenian calendar (for 551) and Japanese calendar (for 645) – its year 1. See the articles 551 and 645 - Christian75 (talk) 10:44, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Frietjes fixed the first 551 bug, which was a leftover from the previous template, and I fixed the 645 one, which was entirely of my own doing. Thanks for finding them! — Mr. Stradivarius 14:34, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 September 2013

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edit date of birth — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.215.160.154 (talk) 08:32, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Mr. Stradivarius 09:29, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Adding 2013 in the Jewish calender

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In Jewish calendar year 2013 is 5774-5775. In the Hebew alphabet it is written התשע"ד - התשע"ה

Please add.

Orit1207 (talk) 10:53, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

It is already in the template under the name "Hebrew Calendar" - take a look at Hebrew calendar. If you want the template to use the Hebrew numbers, you will need to write the Lua code to add to Module:Year in other calendars that would make that possible. If we add Hebrew numbers we should probably still keep the Arabic numerals, though, as otherwise most readers won't be able to read it. — Mr. Stradivarius 11:04, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Juche calendar

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Please, correct the Juche date format. It is "주체NUMBER년" ("Juche" NUMBER "year", for example: 주체102년 is "2013") I would do it, but this page is semi-protected :) Oppashi (talk) 16:51, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

 Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Celestra (talk) 00:11, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

I confess it honestly: I have no idea how to edit this kind of template. Oppashi (talk) 22:23, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

I've added the code to Module:Year in other calendars/sandbox. See the test cases for examples of the output. If there are no objections to this change in a few days, then we can go ahead and update the module. — Mr. Stradivarius 23:40, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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