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About Girls' Generation discography, Flower Power (song) and Love & Peace (Girls' Generation album)

Please, please, please, stop your disruptive editing. I've already explained numerous times that "6TheoryMedia" needs to be included because it is the publisher. The work/website parameter in the cite web template is used for the name of the website. Also, why is it so hard to engage in a discussion? I've attempted numerous times to start one but you just ignore and revert anyway. The only time it is not included is when the source in question is a periodical but that is not the case here, so... Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 04:41, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm getting tired of this. Unless you're willing to engage in a discussion, this is futile. I've already stated my point, pointing out to you why for umpteenth time "6TheoryMedia" is included as the publisher. Also, don't be a hypocrite posting a "not assuming good faith" template to my talk page and then simply reverting again. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 07:13, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Fine, lets discuss. If a source is directly from allkpop, then why 6Theroy Media need to be included?

Launched in October 2007, allkpop.com (parent company 6Theory) has become the premier source for all the latest K-pop celebrity gossip and news. Catering to over 6 million monthly readers worldwide*, and serving over 100 million page views per month*, allkpop is the most trafficked English based K-pop news site in the world. allkpop works around the clock to be the first to deliver minute to minute breaking news, gossip, and the most exclusive coverage on the hottest K-pop stars. (Source)

Root word of "publisher" is publish.

pub·lish (pblsh)

v. pub·lished, pub·lish·ing, pub·lish·es

v.tr.

1. To prepare and issue (printed material) for public distribution or sale. (Source)

and the meaning of publisher,

pub·lish·er (pbl-shr)

n.

One that is engaged in publishing printed material. (Source)

So as a whole, "publisher=" is for allkpop because it is a publisher of K-pop news and "work=" is meant for 6Theory Media because it's not a news site.

Practicing the usage of either one of the parameter is enough to indicate where the source is coming from; so why need to include something unnecessary?

Sni56996 (talk) 08:11, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

It's not unnecessary. "Publisher=" is for 6TheoryMedia. Because 6TheoryMedia publishes Allkpop. See almost any ref from Billboard, where Prometheus Global Media is also listed because Prometheus Global Media owns, and therefore publishes Billboard. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 08:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

I still not convinced. Like I said before, its the meaning of the word, not substantial purpose of the parameter as a whole. Sni56996 (talk) 18:22, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Regardless of the meaning of the word "publish", "6TheoryMedia" should be included in any ref from Allkpop anyways. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 06:13, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Take a look at these guides to citing webpages: Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 07:19, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

But an editor should follow Misplaced Pages guides/styles, not from other websites. Sni56996 (talk) 07:33, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I just provided those websites as further examples, Misplaced Pages uses the same citation styles. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 07:48, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

template:Cite web/doc has examples where work = Encyclopedia of Things and publisher = Open Publishing website also is the same as work, and for template:Cite news/doc, work is the same as journal, newspaper, magazine, periodical. At the bottom of the www.allkpop.com page is: "Copyright © 2007-2013 6Theory Media, LLC. All Rights Reserved. allkpop® is part of the 6Theory Media, LLC, Network. | Handcrafted by Kami". So Allkpop can be used as work / website and publisher can be 6Theory Media. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:50, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

No space after publisher

Hi, I was checking the history for the 2NE1 article. Can you point to the Misplaced Pages standards that require that no space be between publisher and the = sign ? I don't think it really matters in the cite web as the data is processed the same way. The cite web itself also shows varied spacing in the vertical format. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:23, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I am using a user script called, "ProveIt located at Gadgets under Preferences. It doesn't require any spacing between the equal sign. Sni56996 (talk) 20:18, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok, cool. Looks like the script automatically handles it then. No worries. :) -AngusWOOF (talk) 20:26, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Removal of lyrics

Can I ask why you have removed the first two lines of the song here. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:08, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Okay, message on Talk page received. Are you simply saying you want this format:

Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore—
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
"'Tis some visiter," I muttered, "tapping at my chamber door—
            Only this and nothing more."

In ictu oculi (talk) 11:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Forget about the format. The matter is already settled! Sni56996 (talk) 11:19, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Goodo. Thank you for restoring. FWIW WP:SONGLYRICS allows/encourages small quotes from song lyrics. In this case the first 2 lines are needed to demonstrate the unusual mix of Japanese and English mentioned in the article. As for WP:MOS the relevant section MOS:Blockquote can be varied when (1) text, (2) romanization and (3) translation and required. The specimen text "Once upon a midnight dreary" is by Edgar Allen Poe so out of copyright, most song lyrics are in copyright, therefore come under fair use and maximum 10-20% of the song only can be quoted. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:21, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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Message noted. Sni56996 (talk) 18:33, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

About ref

"interest.me" should be included not only because it's part of the url but also because "Mwave" is also an online computer store, antenna store, something else, emergency coms, Chinese tech store. There is also an arena in Japan called M-Wave and something else at IBM Mwave. If only there was a wiki page on this specific website, then it could be wikilinked to Mwave and nothing else. Cheers. Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 11:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks for the explanation. Sni56996 (talk) 03:22, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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