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::::::No problem! Glad I could be of help. Another thing I suggest is to read ] and ] thoroughly, which will help you with your article. The reference is a good start but everything you put into an article needs a reference (aside from obvious things covered under ]). One thing that unsettles me is your admission that you're here ] but to solidify company trademarks. I understand that it must have been a hard process for you to go through but at the same time, ]. I hope that doesn't affect your ability to productively edit, as I'm certain you could be a skilled and productive editor. Thanks and if you need any more help, feel free to ask! ] (]) 01:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC) | ::::::No problem! Glad I could be of help. Another thing I suggest is to read ] and ] thoroughly, which will help you with your article. The reference is a good start but everything you put into an article needs a reference (aside from obvious things covered under ]). One thing that unsettles me is your admission that you're here ] but to solidify company trademarks. I understand that it must have been a hard process for you to go through but at the same time, ]. I hope that doesn't affect your ability to productively edit, as I'm certain you could be a skilled and productive editor. Thanks and if you need any more help, feel free to ask! ] (]) 01:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
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songbooth
Hi Jns4eva
i was hoping to get some more details on why my submission was denied. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katiemcguigs (talk • contribs) 18:55, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sure, I'd be happy to elaborate! The reason I declined it was mainly because it was not written in an encyclopedic matter. For starters, you should directly back up your content with references. Instead of making a section of them, use the ref tag as such: <ref>Reference</ref> immediately after the statement it backs up (for example, if you say SongBooth was nominated for an award, find a reference that says that and use the ref tag immediately after the sentence). Make sure to put <reflinks /> at the end of the page so they show up.
- Another reason is because of the way your article is written. Your history section should contain a summary of important, verifiable, notable events in SongBooth's history with third party references and you should chop out the "features" and "creation process" sections if you can't integrate them somehow into the history article, as they appear to promote SongBooth rather than encyclopedically state what SongBooth is about. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. I'd be happy to help you understand how to get the article up to an acceptable status. Jns4eva (talk) 22:32, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
From TECHNOCORP
Hi, can someone fix the TBose page so that it is useful to people in general? It is not meant to be an advertisement as this is not necessary. Thanks. Anthony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TECHNOCORP (talk • contribs) 21:53, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- I will not be surprised if companies have hired people to write their articles, because accurate trademark details can only come from companies. I am sure you are aware of this and the importance of having accurate information in Misplaced Pages.
- However, I do believe that it is deceptive for companies to pretend that an "independent third party" is editing Misplaced Pages with their information or that Misplaced Pages does not think this is not happening with respect to maintaining the accuracy of its contents. I am sure Misplaced Pages has a policy to maintain the accuracy and validity of its content. I am not sure how it does this with respect to companies. Anyway, I will have to keep the user name to prevent misuse of the trademark. Let me know how to proceed. Thanks. TECHNOCORP (talk) 23:49, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- The problem isn't with the factual accuracy of the article, it's with the implied Conflict of Interest. Misplaced Pages ONLY accepts neutrally written articles, meaning both the good points and the bad points must be present and must be worded neutrally. If your company is involved in a future scandal which impacts your business, would you be comfortable including it in your article? If your company receives a prestigious award, would you be comfortable merely acknowledging it rather than gloating about it? Personally, I doubt it. That's what we mean when you have a Conflict of Interest: you cannot be neutral given your close proximity with the company. Not only that, but everything has to be backed up by independent third party references, meaning you cannot include any original research or information not backed up by an independent source. Because of this, no matter how relevant or important the information, it cannot be included until a reliable person outside the company writes about it (The New York Times for instance).
- As far as other companies editing articles deceptively, that's none of our concern. Yes, it can happen but it's usually pretty easy to spot since it will violate the rules here at Misplaced Pages and is usually spotted pretty quickly. As far as your username goes, it directly conflicts with the rules mentioned and has to be changed unfortunately, due to the policies that say you "may not promote a business" nor "you may not have a username that implies shared use" and if you choose to continue editing under it, you risk getting banned unfortunately. If you'd like to prevent someone else from using it, you could always retire it and start anew under a different name. Keep in mind, however, that you may not return to the username per our Clean Start rules. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. Thanks! Jns4eva ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (talk) 00:04, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- I have no objections to all public conducts of a business to be accurately represented, good or bad. When a business operates under a registered trademark, it usually does its best to not mess up, after all, everything is public, as you are fully aware of. Anyway, I see you mean the article is missing legitimate references. In this case, why not say so instead of flagging it for immediate deletion. This can be addressed to comply with the guideline you specified. Let me put in the citations from legitimate sources, and then you can remove the flag for immediate deletion. With respect to the name, I will need to keep the name to legally track all communications. I will take your advice and not edit any pages with it. Thanks, Anthony TECHNOCORP (talk) 00:21, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response. However, there are several reasons I tagged it for Speedy Deletion. The first is because of your Conflict of Interest, which isn't just obvious examples like the above but can range from small examples such as wording differently that are subconscious. Several COI editors have been found out, even without divulging said information due to little tendencies they didn't realize they were doing. The second is notability, which is the main reason I tagged it for CSD (which you can see on the article). To qualify for an article on Misplaced Pages, you have to meet certain guidelines. To prove notability, you have to have a significant amount of third party references, not just one or two. Keep that in mind. But ultimately, it will be up to an administrator to decide whether or not to keep your article. My suggestion to you? Let it go for now and take it to Articles for Creation. That's a great place to create your article as no one can step in and delete it (aside from the rare instances where you out an editor or post personal information of course), you can work on your article in peace and when you're done, you can have an independent third party look it over for errors and send it onto mainspace. Thanks Jns4eva ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (talk) 00:32, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- Now this was really useful advice. It makes sense to have the article reviewed by a third party and have the third party publish it. Thank you very much for taking the time to talk me through this. You have been very constructive and utmost professional. I truly appreciate this. I have added the legal citation and the reference of first use. Let me know what you think. Also, I need to figure out how to go through the third party process. It is probably a good process to establish for companies, after all, it is not my objective to do things improperly or to mislead. This is something Misplaced Pages should formally establish as a process - a link for businesses operating under trademarks to go through. Why I am updating Misplaced Pages after all these years? It is because "popups" are misusing the trademarks of legitimate small companies with "guarantees" causing potential harm to unsuspecting consumers and the reputation of unsuspecting businesses. It is not possible to go after every popup. Thanks, Anthony TECHNOCORP (talk) 01:15, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- No problem! Glad I could be of help. Another thing I suggest is to read WP:NPOV and WP:References thoroughly, which will help you with your article. The reference is a good start but everything you put into an article needs a reference (aside from obvious things covered under WP:BLUESKY). One thing that unsettles me is your admission that you're here not to build an encyclopedia but to solidify company trademarks. I understand that it must have been a hard process for you to go through but at the same time, Misplaced Pages is not a business directory. I hope that doesn't affect your ability to productively edit, as I'm certain you could be a skilled and productive editor. Thanks and if you need any more help, feel free to ask! Jns4eva ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (talk) 01:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
stop harassing me
ive told my father and hes ready to take to higher level if you dont stop harassing mee