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:: Most of the articles that Fram likely would point to are less issues of translation than of attempting to write an article to prove the article satisfies ]. Writing styles and citation styles differ very much when writing a stub about an inherently notable subject, when writing an article about a subject to demonstrate they pass ], writing an article for ], writing an article for ] and writing an article for ]. As {{ping|Dr. Blofeld}} notes, these articles are not the best things ever, and they are not striving to be. Rather, the are trying to demonstrate notability, and Fram is mistaking poor writing to pass ] for misunderstanding sources. Instead of being here to positively contribute to Misplaced Pages by improving the prose, Fram takes me to AN which goes back to m point about this being an example of Fram's hounding. --] (]) 15:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC) | :: Most of the articles that Fram likely would point to are less issues of translation than of attempting to write an article to prove the article satisfies ]. Writing styles and citation styles differ very much when writing a stub about an inherently notable subject, when writing an article about a subject to demonstrate they pass ], writing an article for ], writing an article for ] and writing an article for ]. As {{ping|Dr. Blofeld}} notes, these articles are not the best things ever, and they are not striving to be. Rather, the are trying to demonstrate notability, and Fram is mistaking poor writing to pass ] for misunderstanding sources. Instead of being here to positively contribute to Misplaced Pages by improving the prose, Fram takes me to AN which goes back to m point about this being an example of Fram's hounding. --] (]) 15:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
::: I personally do not see problems with the notability of the articles I look at, but I do see problems with the prose (English is not my mothertongue though, and I was already accused multiple times of not understanding things here, so that I can be wrong), and indeed sometimes articles you created do not contain the same info as Spanish sources contain. I see that these two problems were cited on many occasions in the past, and I see that it persists. I do not think Fram is going to check all your articles and re-write all the prose. How do you think we should solve it?--] (]) 15:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC) | ::: I personally do not see problems with the notability of the articles I look at, but I do see problems with the prose (English is not my mothertongue though, and I was already accused multiple times of not understanding things here, so that I can be wrong), and indeed sometimes articles you created do not contain the same info as Spanish sources contain. I see that these two problems were cited on many occasions in the past, and I see that it persists. I do not think Fram is going to check all your articles and re-write all the prose. How do you think we should solve it?--] (]) 15:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::: A qualification of writing for Misplaced Pages is not writing brilliant prose. I do not see many occasions where these problems were brought to my attention. The first I am aware of was the discussion on DYK, which Fram who has a history of hounding me, started. The second time it was brought to my attention was when it was brought up on ANI. If I have been informed on this on other occasions, then please provide diffs related to this notice of notifications on my talk page. Fram provided three examples. That is not many considering the number of articles I have written and the number of edits I have made using Spanish sources. What percentage of my contributions using Spanish sources do you think are problematic? --] (]) 15:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Women's national football teams by class
Hi I'm wondering why you removed the recent changes I made to the article. Everything that I wrote add's something to the article and nothing has been taken away. I'm not sure why you think this isn't the best way to write the article nearly every country has this format, I'm not saying just because they have done it that way it is right but it's a fair indication. Looking forward to hearing from you, you can write on my page if you like, thanks.Snaz01 (talk) 15:20, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi. The maps are hand curated. I'll get to work on a map for women's football teams ASAP per your request. I'll put it on the task force page once I've finished. Del♉sion23 (talk) 18:45, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Here is the map, as promised. I've coloured the countries missing teams or articles in brown. I've added it to the taskforce page, and also added a progress bar for the project. Thanks for the appreciation :) I'm glad the maps are useful and hope this one is too. Keep up the good work on sports articles! Del♉sion23 (talk) 21:08, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Jaume Llambi
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On 20 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Antonio Jesús Martín Gaitán, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that 2012 Spanish Paralympic blind footballer Antonio Jesús Martín Gaitán scored his team's bronze medal winning goal in a shootout watched by the Duchess of Lugo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Antonio Jesús Martín Gaitán. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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DYK nomination of María Carmen Rubio
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DYK nomination of Guillermo Rodriguez Gonzalez
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History merge request
Hi Laura, I'm confused by your history merge request for User:LauraHale/Francisco Angel Soriano San Martin. I don't see any page history at Francisco Angel Soriano San Martin, was there another page you meant to request? Let me know and I'll merge them. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:48, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of Bernabe Costas de Miranda
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DYK for Lola Ochoa Ribes
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DYK nomination of David Mouriz Dopico
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DYK nomination of Oscar Trigo
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DYK for Disabled sports in Spain
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DYK for Guillermo Rodriguez Gonzalez
On 29 December 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Guillermo Rodriguez Gonzalez, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that 2012 Spanish Paralympic archer Guillermo Rodriguez Gonzalez blamed the heat in London as a reason for not medaling? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Guillermo Rodriguez Gonzalez. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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DYK nominations in danger of rejection
Laura, as far as I can tell you have not yet responded to any of the six DYK notifications of issues with your nominations. I don't understand why you bother to nominate articles if you aren't going to address issues that come up in the nomination process.
Of the six, one has been approved because someone intervened and took care of the issue, one has been rejected, and the remaining four (post-Christmas) are all a week old, the standard interval to wait before it's considered safe to assume the person will not respond. As such, they could be rejected at any time, and are likely to be so in the next couple of days unless you take action.
Please give these remaining four DYK nominations your attention right away, and give some priority to issues with your nominations going forward. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:46, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Spanish Federation of Sports for the Deaf
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Nomination of Oriol Sellarès Martínez for deletion
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AN discussion
You are the subject of a discussion at WP:AN#Laura Hale topic ban. Fram (talk) 17:18, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Laura. I understand your unwillingness to go to ANI, but I am afraid we really have a problem with your editing. Would you please be willing to respond in the ANI thread (where a number of examples are collected) or elsewhere? Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I apologize, but as the AN discussion was started about 5 minutes after I started adding sources to an article I created that Fram had nominated for deletion, and where Fram mispresented the availability of sources related to the topic. Fram has previously sought to block me from processes and misrepresented my work, including falsely counting DYKs I wrote as being about Gibraltar when they were clearly not. He had also gone after me for Flat Bastion Road and for another article about an Australian Paralympic guide skier at DYK. For me, this is a continuing pattern on the part of Fram in going after me. (I have previously requested that Fram cease interacting with me.)
- In my opinion, @Demiurge1000: did a good job at debunking the examples provided.) Since the discussion at DYK, I have made a very conscious effort to seek second opinions when I am unsure of the meaning of words, spent most of December learning Spanish, tried to rely less on translation tools to understand meaning, and sought assistance from members of Wikimedia España when I had even more questions about what I was reading.
- The three examples Fram provided were not about translation errors. One was a typographical error. One was contorting the English language to avoid close paraphrasing from a translation. The third was a misunderstanding of a topic, not an issue of translation.
- Most of the articles that Fram likely would point to are less issues of translation than of attempting to write an article to prove the article satisfies WP:GNG. Writing styles and citation styles differ very much when writing a stub about an inherently notable subject, when writing an article about a subject to demonstrate they pass WP:GNG, writing an article for WP:DYK, writing an article for WP:GA and writing an article for WP:FAC. As @Dr. Blofeld: notes, these articles are not the best things ever, and they are not striving to be. Rather, the are trying to demonstrate notability, and Fram is mistaking poor writing to pass WP:GNG for misunderstanding sources. Instead of being here to positively contribute to Misplaced Pages by improving the prose, Fram takes me to AN which goes back to m point about this being an example of Fram's hounding. --LauraHale (talk) 15:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I personally do not see problems with the notability of the articles I look at, but I do see problems with the prose (English is not my mothertongue though, and I was already accused multiple times of not understanding things here, so that I can be wrong), and indeed sometimes articles you created do not contain the same info as Spanish sources contain. I see that these two problems were cited on many occasions in the past, and I see that it persists. I do not think Fram is going to check all your articles and re-write all the prose. How do you think we should solve it?--Ymblanter (talk) 15:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- A qualification of writing for Misplaced Pages is not writing brilliant prose. I do not see many occasions where these problems were brought to my attention. The first I am aware of was the discussion on DYK, which Fram who has a history of hounding me, started. The second time it was brought to my attention was when it was brought up on ANI. If I have been informed on this on other occasions, then please provide diffs related to this notice of notifications on my talk page. Fram provided three examples. That is not many considering the number of articles I have written and the number of edits I have made using Spanish sources. What percentage of my contributions using Spanish sources do you think are problematic? --LauraHale (talk) 15:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I personally do not see problems with the notability of the articles I look at, but I do see problems with the prose (English is not my mothertongue though, and I was already accused multiple times of not understanding things here, so that I can be wrong), and indeed sometimes articles you created do not contain the same info as Spanish sources contain. I see that these two problems were cited on many occasions in the past, and I see that it persists. I do not think Fram is going to check all your articles and re-write all the prose. How do you think we should solve it?--Ymblanter (talk) 15:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- Most of the articles that Fram likely would point to are less issues of translation than of attempting to write an article to prove the article satisfies WP:GNG. Writing styles and citation styles differ very much when writing a stub about an inherently notable subject, when writing an article about a subject to demonstrate they pass WP:GNG, writing an article for WP:DYK, writing an article for WP:GA and writing an article for WP:FAC. As @Dr. Blofeld: notes, these articles are not the best things ever, and they are not striving to be. Rather, the are trying to demonstrate notability, and Fram is mistaking poor writing to pass WP:GNG for misunderstanding sources. Instead of being here to positively contribute to Misplaced Pages by improving the prose, Fram takes me to AN which goes back to m point about this being an example of Fram's hounding. --LauraHale (talk) 15:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Spanish Federation of Sports for the Blind
On 7 January 2014, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Spanish Federation of Sports for the Blind, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Spanish Federation of Sports for the Blind hosted the first IBSA World Championships and Games in 1998 in Madrid? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Spanish Federation of Sports for the Blind. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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