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	As I said in my introduction to this article's first nomination, this was one of my two favourite books as a kid, and I want to do it justice. It's a Victorian boy's own ripping yarn of shipwreck, pirates, cannibals, self-sufficiency, you name it, and the inspiration for William Golding's dystopian '']''. Unfortunately I managed to get myself blocked during the previous FAC – hard to believe I know – and so Drmies thought it prudent to withdraw the nomination. But now we're back for a second bite at the cherry. ] ] 20:18, 10 January 2014 (UTC)		As I said in my introduction to this article's first nomination, this was one of my two favourite books as a kid, and I want to do it justice. It's a Victorian boy's own ripping yarn of shipwreck, pirates, cannibals, self-sufficiency, you name it, and the inspiration for William Golding's dystopian '']''. Unfortunately I managed to get myself blocked during the previous FAC – hard to believe I know – and so Drmies thought it prudent to withdraw the nomination. But now we're back for a second bite at the cherry. ] ] 20:18, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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			*"one of the top twenty Scottish novels at the 15th ] in 2006": why is the opinion of a bunch of tech nerds in 2006 so siginficant to the novel that this should close (or even be in) the lead? I'd think that other tidbits would be more interesting, such as that it was on recommended reading lists, or that it's had a number of adaptations as recently as 2000.
			*The third paragraph of "Biographical background and publication" jumps all over in time: published in 1858, but, oh, wait, actually 1857, and before that he wrote something else, and after that he wrote even more, meanwhile back in 1858 ... not that I can see anything ''wrong'' with it, but it can't discern the logic that has produced this ordering.
			*"three of them published in 1858, the year of ''The Coral Island''": is this meant to include ''The Coral Island'', which as we've just been informed was published in 1857?
			* "''The Coral Island'' was republished by ] in 1995, in their Popular Classics series.{{r\|Dutheil}}": Were they the first to publish it besides Nelson, or was this in some other way a milestone?
			*"centre stage as the main characters": is "centre stage" not redundant to "the main characters"?
			*"the Victorian age based its imperialist ideology": can an "age" do such a thing?
			*""white, English superiority that was anchored in the notion of a civilized nation elected by God to rule inferior peoples."": is this a quote from the book?
			*"The story is written as a ] from the perspective of one of three boys shipwrecked on the ] of a large but uninhabited ]n island, 15-year-old Ralph Rover." I think it'd read better if "15-year-old Ralph Rover" came after "perspective of"
			*"an 1845 wedding in which a duchess was presented with coral ornaments": that's tantalizing—could we get the duchess's name?
			* A capsule history of Ballantyne would be nice (even just a sentence or two). As it is, we're told that a bunch of tech nerds consider the book one of the top Scottish novels, but the body doesn't even mention that Ballantyne was Scottish.

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Nominator(s): Drmies (talk), Eric Corbett (talk) 20:16, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

As I said in my introduction to this article's first nomination, this was one of my two favourite books as a kid, and I want to do it justice. It's a Victorian boy's own ripping yarn of shipwreck, pirates, cannibals, self-sufficiency, you name it, and the inspiration for William Golding's dystopian Lord of the Flies. Unfortunately I managed to get myself blocked during the previous FAC – hard to believe I know – and so Drmies thought it prudent to withdraw the nomination. But now we're back for a second bite at the cherry. Eric Corbett 20:18, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Feedback from Curly Turkey

"one of the top twenty Scottish novels at the 15th International World Wide Web Conference in 2006": why is the opinion of a bunch of tech nerds in 2006 so siginficant to the novel that this should close (or even be in) the lead? I'd think that other tidbits would be more interesting, such as that it was on recommended reading lists, or that it's had a number of adaptations as recently as 2000.
The third paragraph of "Biographical background and publication" jumps all over in time: published in 1858, but, oh, wait, actually 1857, and before that he wrote something else, and after that he wrote even more, meanwhile back in 1858 ... not that I can see anything wrong with it, but it can't discern the logic that has produced this ordering.
"three of them published in 1858, the year of The Coral Island": is this meant to include The Coral Island, which as we've just been informed was published in 1857?
"The Coral Island was republished by Penguin Books in 1995, in their Popular Classics series.": Were they the first to publish it besides Nelson, or was this in some other way a milestone?
"centre stage as the main characters": is "centre stage" not redundant to "the main characters"?
"the Victorian age based its imperialist ideology": can an "age" do such a thing?
""white, English superiority that was anchored in the notion of a civilized nation elected by God to rule inferior peoples."": is this a quote from the book?
"The story is written as a first person narrative from the perspective of one of three boys shipwrecked on the coral reef of a large but uninhabited Polynesian island, 15-year-old Ralph Rover." I think it'd read better if "15-year-old Ralph Rover" came after "perspective of"
"an 1845 wedding in which a duchess was presented with coral ornaments": that's tantalizing—could we get the duchess's name?
A capsule history of Ballantyne would be nice (even just a sentence or two). As it is, we're told that a bunch of tech nerds consider the book one of the top Scottish novels, but the body doesn't even mention that Ballantyne was Scottish.

———Curly Turkey (gobble) 01:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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