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A barnstar for you!

	Momentum award
	This is how I see your momentum. Always moving (things) forward. Drmies (talk) 16:47, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

all ze bishes!

-- Aunva6 17:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

RAWR! Have a good break, Bish! Liz 18:33, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Have a good break as well, Bishonen. Best wishes, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:01, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

i should say, check the link, (hint, hint). -- Aunva6 21:02, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

I did click, Aunva6! I think that Bish would find committee work awfully dull but who knows? I'd vote for her. ;-) Liz 23:42, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Waiting

Waiting for you in the bushes, like Mies duck, the rubber duck he blew up with a bycicle pump, when he was five. Hafspajen (talk) 23:41, 13 November 2013 (UTC).

It's surely not Spring in Europe already?

It would appear that April 1st is appearing twice on the calendar this year.  Giano  10:48, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

How I wish I could laugh about this. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 12:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Of course you can laugh; he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of being elected - there's more chance of Jimbo proposing marriage to Lady C than there is of him ever being elected to the Arbcom.  Giano  13:24, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Is there any chance of some semblance of management showing up Giano? — ChedZILLA 02:14, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Management of what exactly?  Giano  10:29, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

• I expect Mr Ched means is Mrs Bishonen likely to make an appearance in the near future? I think she's tired of Misplaced Pages at the moment - can't say that I blame her; it's a pretty poor state of affairs when one has to deal with idiots constantly, which she does. Her only joy is the likes of me, and I suppose you and a few others coming here to her salon. As a matter of fact, she's currently staying with me for some recuperation at my beautiful, cliff top villa at Cap Ferat where I am giving her the full benefit of my wisdom and experience of Misplaced Pages - especially my considerable knowledge of Mr Gerard which will take some considerable time to impart in full! The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 12:17, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

PS: I forgot to mention I am preparing a a small guide on the candidates for this year's election. I think you will find it very perceptive and informative. I shall be expanding it over the next few weeks as I gain more insight and opinion. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 22:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Bishzilla is extremely impressed. Always tries to model herself on Lady Catherine! Quickly creates her own voter guide. bishzilla _ROARR!! 15:43, 21 November 2013 (UTC).

Aww, Bishzilla - how sweet! Thanks for the mention. Risker (talk) 16:21, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

from Ched

{{{hugs}}} — ChedZILLA 11:34, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Räyh! + Random Shakespeare

Are any of the bish family related to Hevisaurus? --Shirt58 (talk) 11:53, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Gabriela Isler

Hi, I have included a well sourced incident concerning Gabriela Isler in her article. Now another user who is a evident pageant fan and huge fan of Isler removes the sourced material. And he also left me a quite nasty message at my talk page. I might be wrong but I think Misplaced Pages should not censor material even if it does not favour the person. Perhaps a change of the "controversy"name or similar would do. We have other Miss Universe winners articles which includes similar material of incidents such a Leila Lopes. Isler is a public figure now and tweets about a president is notable in this context I think. Regards, --BabbaQ (talk) 13:56, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

On this special day

I know where you are, this is just an ordinary Thursday. But it still seemed a suitable day to say that I'm thankful for Bishonen being on Misplaced Pages! And even more thankful that Bishzilla still hasn't burnt me to a crisp. Happy Thanksgiving/ordinary Thursday! Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Like but better give the 'zilla some of that pie or else she might come over here and cause trouble! =:-O Montanabw 17:07, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Bishzilla would be into pie or not, but I'm certain she'd appreciate a juicy turkey (or twenty)! — Huntster (t @ c) 00:03, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

So far the 'zilla hasn't eaten her pony, so I think she has adequate discernment, though I'm sure a juicy turkey (or twenty) would also be appreciated! Montanabw 02:18, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I moved a piece of the pie to a safe place ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Hiya Bishpack! Sorry I missed your mention a while back asking for help. I don't come around here much anymore. Miss you! Tex (talk) 14:50, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Ha, it's the cupcake with the crack on top! darwinbish ☠, 15:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC).

The Misplaced Pages Library Survey

As a subscriber to one of The Misplaced Pages Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi 15:50, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

In the Meantime

--Mr Fink (talk) 04:37, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Handsome Tiktaalik! bishapod talk to your inner fish 18:53, 15 December 2013 (UTC).

Kafziel arbitration case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kafziel. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kafziel/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 29, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kafziel/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 22:33, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Joyous Noel

My dearest Mrs Bishonen, I note that you've been rather tardy in your edits of late! I was wondering about the Arbcom results I have been in South Africa burying poor Mr Mandela and trying to avoid that grinning Mr Obama, who kept trying to take photographs of himself together with me on his mobile phone - naturally I was heavily veiled and refused; one has to show some decorum. I have to confess, I was surprised not to see the World's only remaining living saint, Mr Wales, in the VIP enclosure with me, but I suppose there can only be space for major global celebrities - at least he was spared the Prince of Wales lecturing us all on tribal dancing and vegetable growing - two subjects very close to his heart besides the poor, dear Duchess. My concern is that I have not been asked to appoint the new Arbs; as Misplaced Pages's First Lady that is my ceremonial role - I expect they are still checking them for corruption and debauchery; that will take years no doubt. Now, my main purpose, and on to poor, dear, little Mrs Risker; one feels for her, her life must seem very empty now - I have offered her the position of my general factotum and No 1 Lady-in-Waiting, I trust you will advise her to accept. Now, I can't stop here chatting to you all day, I am flying to Sicily this evening, for Christmas, my nephew (the good looking intelligent one) is performing some antiquated ceremony involving goats and wants the whole family in attendance. So from your humble, unworthy page, I take this opportunity to wish all my loyal subjects a very Happy Christmas and Joyful New Year. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 19:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Bishonen is sulking, but I'm here! Risker may be overwhelmed by the honour. Probably better I do it. Bring on the goats! darwinbish ☠, 21:43, 17 December 2013 (UTC).

As the appointment ceremony for new Arbs involves kissing Jimbo's ring, I wonder if the Lady Catherine would be entirely comfortable with performing that function if required? --RexxS (talk) 23:04, 17 December 2013 (UTC) P.S. Nyårsklockan, T-RexxS is back. P.P.S. I heard that Jimmy is due to get an honorary knighthood in the News Years Honours List. Anybody heard the same?

Indeed, is all over the grapevine here up north. A sainthood, presumably! bishzilla _ROARR!! 00:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC).

That man is less and less coherent as time progresses...I can't for the life of me understand anything about his latest rambling...--MONGO 16:47, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Periferigenilerimini

Hello Bishonen. Do you remember Periferigenilerimini (talk · contribs), the now-blocked editor who (1) was concerned exclusively with Romanian reality TV, (2) always used the minor edit flag, even after being asked not to, (3) engaged in disruption such as blanking and copyright violations, and (4) was utterly uncommunicative? I am pretty certain they're back with a couple sockpuppets, both of which fit the pattern exactly. See Ingsiiang (talk · contribs) and Croniciledinnarnia (talk · contribs). I've already tried to communicate with both accounts several times and warned them about the disruptive behaviour, but as with the Periferigenilerimini account there's been no communication whatsoever. Perhaps you'd like to confirm all this and block them as sockpuppets, as the evidence is pretty overwhelming to me, though if you prefer I can raise a SPI instead. —Psychonaut (talk) 17:09, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bishonen! Thanks for your messages. I hope you are enjoying your holidays. When you get back, you might want to consider blocking Jeremiahmimi (talk · contribs), which is an obvious sock of User:Paulika1995 (the oldest account in the family which includes User:Periferigenilerimini, User:Croniciledinnarnia, and User:Ingsiiang). I agree that a near-total lack of English comprehension is probably the reason they have not responded to any messages. Unfortunately this means they're unable to understand why they are acting disruptively and how they can bring their behaviour into line with the project's policies and guidelines. :( It also means that they're probably unsure why their old accounts aren't working any more, and that they will continue to create new ones to evade the block. Semi-protection of the affected pages is one option of dealing with this, and one I'd normally try in the first instance except that there are a lot of pages involved here. An IP block (including a block on account creation) is another option, though the latter will require checkuser to discover this person's IP or IP range. Any thoughts? —Psychonaut (talk) 23:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I have opened an SPI report at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Paulika1995. —Psychonaut (talk) 12:14, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

There's damn few people I care enough about ...but you have always been special to me. Merry Christmas Bish. — ChedZILLA 00:25, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas (or, as we say over here, 聖誕快樂, feel free to offer your IKEA interpretation!) from me too, Bish. And the same to you, Ched! Heimstern Läufer (talk) 03:24, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

User:Sportsguy17/Happy Holidays 2013

Glad Tidings and all that ...

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 23:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy holidays

Happy Yuletides!

Merry Yuletides to you! (And a happy new year!) Hafspajen (talk) 15:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Tis the Season

	Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
	Hope the holidays and new year are good to you! And please don't let Bishzilla eat little Bob over there. — Huntster (t @ c) 21:46, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

No, no. Bishzilla brimming with spirit of the season. Stuffs little Bob into pocket here. bishzilla _ROARR!! 15:08, 25 December 2013 (UTC).

Happy holiday season....

	Cheers, pina coladas all round!
	Damn need a few of these after a frenetic year and Xmas. Hope yours is a good one....Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:04, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

The Seasons Felicitations

The only thing I have missed as regards Misplaced Pages are some of the people. You are one of them. Have a delicious 2014. LessHeard vanU (talk) 01:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Gabriella

Yeah, I keep forgetting that it's only rejected unblocks and non-block active sanctions they can't remove. My bad. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:23, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, George. Look at this, lol. And here she's messing about inside your comment, see it? A child? Do feel free to remove tp access. Or to continue wasting your time with her if you prefer, of course. Bishonen | talk 00:35, 28 December 2013 (UTC).

Dana Ewell

Hi, could you take a look at user Bethana24 edits on Dana Ewell. The new user has an obvious pro-Ewell stance and the article makes it sound like he didnt have any part in the murders but was framed. And the user is also doing unsourced claims of another person involved in the case being the killer. I would like to remove the information all together and go back to the version before Bethana24s first edit. But I rather ask your opinion first. I wouldnt be surprised if the user is somehow connected to Dana Ewell in some capacity. Take a look. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 20:09, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) @BabbaQ: In Bishonen's absence I have reverted the edits on Dana Ewell and left a message on Bethana24's talk page. While my words may not carry the same weight as Bishonen's, it's a first step... Thomas.W 20:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

As I suspected the edits would be reverted. Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 20:45, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Thomas. The account was only registered today. Rather than threaten them with blocks, I've semiprotected the article to give them time to read policy, enter into discussion, and tell us whether they have any COI. Bishonen | talk 22:22, 28 December 2013 (UTC).

Happy Holidays!

Happy Holidays to you as well! You are a very good editor, as am I. Let's hope that I don't semi-retire again as I did back in August due to issues with long-term abusive editors. Take care, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:56, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Disappointing

Hi Bishonen this is rather disappointing. There are some times, when a little shit should be told he's a little shit, and really Jehochman's conduct now isn't any better than Daedalus969 back then when you absolutely correctly called him "little shit". Delete, but think about it. Regards.24.6.41.1 (talk) 18:12, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello little anonymous coward. Why don't you login? Be proud of your comments and claim them as your own. Jehochman 18:14, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Jehochman, I am very proud of my comment, and proud of everything I've done for Misplaced Pages, but I lost my name, my real name to "an angry mob" you described, except, Jehochman, you have not a slightest idea how it feels when one is being attacked by an angry mob, I mean really attacked... Okay... Peace, Jehochman, and Happy New Year to everybody!24.6.41.1 (talk) 18:39, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

You have my sympathy for being attacked by a mob. Peace to you too, and Happy New Year! Jehochman 18:46, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Hehe, all the socks! (Never forget Cassandra at the peak of her insanity, though. She's trouble!) Hope you had a great time and listened reverently to the recitation of Alfred Lord Tennisball's rousing poem from Skansen at midnight! Bishonen | talk 19:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC).

• Damn how could I miss the Alfred Lord Tennisball's poem from Skansen... terribly sad thing, indeed. Hafspajen (talk) 23:45, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

P.S. Such Hack. Many Dogecoin. So Gone. Wow! :-( Cassandra at the peak of her insanity (crazytalk) 00:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC).

I have several thousand in my mining pool at the moment, I mine coins as a way of keeping my dorm room warm, and i've made about $100 in a couple months so far. that video is hilarious too. -- Aunva6 01:58, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I too wish you felicious new years cheer! Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:45, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Arghhh, it's the M00sezilla, take cover! Run, Bishzilla! Bishonen | talk 19:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC).

Happy new year bish! I'm sorry, but, I removed File:Shibe Inu Doge meme.jpg from the message above under criteria 9 of the WP:NFCC, restrictions on location. If you have any questions, please let me know. I figured this would be better than a bot appearing on your userpage, removing the image, and templating you. --Guerillero | My Talk 22:49, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, Guerillero. Actually I thought someone might remove it. Removing the Doge does make Cassandra's comment about Dogecoin look extremely inconsequential, but then she's known to be insane. Happy new year, pity you didn't get in! I voted for you. Bishonen | talk 15:07, 3 January 2014 (UTC).

Thank you Bish, that means a ton to me, though, I think I have a thesis adviser and a ladyfriend that are happy I am not an arb. --Guerillero | My Talk 22:15, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

MilesMoney block

For whatever reason, MM decided this post was a personal attack and removed it. I won't belabor the point, but thought that consideration of the consequences should be weighed before action being taken. Not removing the block might actually be in his best interest, as the flood that is likely to occur on ANI surely won't help his cause.Two kinds of pork (talk) 05:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

74.192.84.101

Hello, remember the IP that drowned Talk:Rupert Sheldrake in a tsunami of text? Among the flood of comments were "battle factions" charts giving his WP:BATTLEGROUND assessment of the talk page. After I reverted the obviously-inappropriate battleground material, he inserted it again.

Well the battle faction charts are back again, this time on his user page and with greater detail, and he's even advertised them at ANI. (The charts also misrepresent me and others, but that's another matter.) The Sheldrake article continues hold the attention of pro-paranormal websites that promote a full-bore battleground mentality, and these charts reinforce that view.

Earlier you employed your considerable diplomatic skill in getting this person to quit flooding the Sheldrake page. Could you explain to him why this battleground stuff is inappropriate? vzaak 17:39, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I suspect the reason Vzaak thinks it "inappropriate" for anybody but themselves to display charts of selected WMFLABS data, is that their own username pops right to the top of the all-time-mainspace-contributors chart, whereas I only managed ninth-place-talkpage-rank (and am within five edits of falling to eleventh-place ... vzaak is third-place-talkpage). Charts of such data inherently cannot *create* a battleground; they can only describe such. And boy, does the battleground exist! That said, I would be more than happy to correct any mischaracterizations that Vzaak sees in chart#3, and offered as much right in the posting on my talkpage; it is a hand-compiled chart, so errors are certainly possible.

Anyhoo, since you're still on partial-wikibreak, feel free to send Bishzilla over instead. If they are also busy, please pick another admin, preferably one that asks questions first.  :-)   Thanks for improving wikipedia, and happy proleptic gregorian increment. — 19:56, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi guys, very sorry I've taken so long to get to this. I had to recover from the shock of vzaak's reference to my "considerable diplomatic skill"; that's a new one. Might you be referring to the time I told 74 that I'd rather not read the whole of his post because I wasn't feeling very well and didn't want to feel any worse? :-) There's tact and diplomacy. 74, I do in fact find the size and number and variety of your posts overwhelming. That's not meant to imply any slur on their content nor to suggest I don't like you, or don't appreciate your analytic skills, because I do. But, well, there's the overwhelmingness.

I agree with vzak that the charts shouldn't be on Talk:Rupert Sheldrake. But, vzaak, I don't really see why you're bothered that they're on 74's own talkpage. (Nor even why the "advertisement" on ANI matters a lot.) They may be tendentious, I haven't studied them really closely, on account of the overwhelmingness, but "traditionally Misplaced Pages offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit". I read that as including wide latitude to be tendentious or polemical on them, though of course excluding the kind of stuff mentioned in WP:UP#NOT. Why are you so concerned about it? Have you considered whether paying attention to material on a personal talkpage, which is always a rather out-of-the-way place if it isn't Jimbo's, might create a bit of a Streisand effect? I'd let it go if I were you. Bishonen | talk 14:51, 4 January 2014 (UTC).

Hi, given the high-powered warfare mentality promoted by off-site paranormal forums, it doesn't seem appropriate that users should be explicitly promoting that view here. 74.192.84.101's "battle factions" charts aren't even accurate -- I had not even heard of WP:SPOV, let alone endorsed it. Labeling a whole set of users in any way -- let alone labeling them as endorsing a failed policy proposal -- is not civil. 74.192.84.101 had promised to stop posting "further demographics data, concerning edit-counts and revert-counts and dates-of-entry and such".

P.S. When I first posted on your page a while ago, I had no idea about your astronomical popularity here. Through this page I also found out about The Lady Catherine de Burgh, which has to be the greatest Wikipedian ever. vzaak 15:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, vzaak, I have the honour of her ladyship's acquaintance and presence on this page; indeed, though I hesitate to speak so boastfully, of her friendship. Why don't you go introduce yourself and express your awe and respect veneration? If you scruple to approach her directly (I've noticed you're a mannerly young man), you might try her secretary User:Vera Corpus (Miss). She may not be the most competent, but a little pourboire can often work wonders. Bishonen | talk 23:10, 5 January 2014 (UTC).

I forgot about the Streisand reference, I suppose because it didn't make sense. I don't read 74.192.84.101's comments because I don't have the inclination or patience for them. The ones I have read invariably misrepresent me and paint me in a negative light. Looking at 74.192.84.101's above comment: no, I am not in any way ashamed of my edits; I am not attempting to suppress information in Streisand-like manner. I want 74.192.84.101 to stop the battleground bullshit. It's obviously not raw data which is battleground, but his own presumptuous categorizing of users into opposing factions. vzaak 17:12, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Normal services, such as they are, have been resumed.  :-)   Good to hear. But I'm not sure you are up to my verbosity in prose, and the incredible volume of vzaak's edits to mainspace. Are you wanting to help vzaak and myself resolve this? Or would you rather pass the wikiBuck to some other mutually-agreeable admin? I don't think either of us will mind, if you do, although of course I can only speak for myself. Given the tude on display above from vzaak (and the accusation that *they* have no tude it is *74* who has the tude here), there is effectively zero possibility that the disagreement about who is causing the WP:BATTLEGROUND can be resolved, without the would-be-mediator delving into the last six months of the Sheldrake talkpage... which has been a pretty steady kilo-edit-per-month. Not to mention the off-wiki canvassing to which vzaak alludes; that *does* absolutely exist. Please leave me a talkback, whichever way you decide we ought deal with this. Thanks as always for improving wikipedia. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 13:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Yohio

Did not notice it until now but user Kiruning has been at it again changing most of the Yohio article. Again mentioning the Big in Japan claim etc. Should we just revert most of the edits or? Kiruning also voices his opinion about you on Yohios talk page from the same day he did the edits, apparently "You seem obviously unfit to be an administrator". I dont agree ;).--BabbaQ (talk) 16:07, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I made the decision to revert the users edits back to the neutral version. I also gave the user a notice of this. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 16:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, Babba, you already knew I'm slow (only one of the many ways I'm unfit to be an administrator), but I've finally posted on Talk:Yohio, and for good measure scrambled the article itself like an egg. Please check it out. Bishonen | talk 22:55, 5 January 2014 (UTC).

Tis true. (Your unfitness.) There's also that whole "putting people in front of wiki-rules" and "maintaing a sense of perspective (and humor)." How did you pass an Rfa? NE Ent 02:22, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Bish was once a horrible horrible person, but 'Zilla straightened them out! :D — Huntster (t @ c) 02:26, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Let's get the facts straight, Bishzilla passed the RfA in 2007 as it was felt that killing with radioactive breath and a penchant for destroying entire cities would be help at Arbcom Enforcement. Since then, Sandstein has replaced 'Zilla in performing those duties, so 'Shonen took over 'Zilla's unused tools. --RexxS (talk) 15:45, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

:-D RexxS, you're a very wicked man. Huntster, what you say is true in a sense — Zilla taught me my place (=in her pocket) — but it's a mere canard (which she puts about already in her 2007 RFA, I see!) that I'm afraid of her. Not at all. My natural authority brings her effortlessly to heel. When I look sternly at her, she cowers. No, if I've become less of a horrible person of late years it's because some of my evil nature has been taken over by you-know-who. Bishonen | talk 18:09, 6 January 2014 (UTC).

That's me, you know! darwinbish ☠, 18:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I read the Bishzilla RfA and it seems like I missed out on all the fun. I had an account back then, but no time to spend here, and now that I have time to spend here most, if not all, of the good-spirited fun seems to have gone... Thomas.W 18:30, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, my RFA, while admittedly from 2010 (how time flies), is still reasonably active, Thomas. Go support!! darwinbish ☠, 18:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Clay

Move Like This
by 28bytes

Duck moving with clay on it's feet, thank you! - Move Like This was translated to Dutch yesterday, any page stalker up to another language? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

(I made a poem, asked below.)

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Some advice on mountains

Hey, Bish, I'm not sure if this is something you'd know or not (I have trouble remembering who's what when it comes to things like this), but would you have any insight into this issue? I don't know the first thing about it, so if you do, a quick look to say that it's reasonable would be nice. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 19:19, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I just needed to make sure they weren't both the same… my Norwegian geography isn't up to much. All those mountains! But one Fløyfjellet near Bergen and one on an island in Lofoten does sound quite reliably not the same, or even close. It's perfect with the titles and the redirects, as far as I can tell. Bishonen | talk 19:58, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

Well, given that my knowledge of Norwegian geography is limited to "it's a country in Europe that's further north than some", that's still better than I can do. I took it on faith and went ahead with the request, as you saw. Thanks (again). Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Stole my thunder

Hey, and I'd just proposed my very first motion, too. Now moot. You mooted my motion! You... mooter. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:27, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Ahh, the joys of being a rouge admin. Do you remember them? Actually, I looked at the RFAR page and clicked on a few links and I couldn't stand it. I kept imagining all the vulnerable newbie arbs resigning in horror. Bishonen | talk 19:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

This wouldn't make even the top five reasons for that.... Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:04, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Really? I don't even like to think what the top five reasons might be, then — unspeakable things taking place on the sekrit mailing list, presumably. I'm sure at least Bishzilla, a sensitive soul, would have run a mile from such a terrifying first experience of arbitration. (Remember she was a candidate for arbcom some years ago?) Bishonen | talk 21:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

The only one of the reasons I should discuss here is that the list is overly full of bad puns. I would complain more loudly, but most of them are mine. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:16, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

And I lost the election. There is no justice in this world. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:28, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

None. Isn't there some fairly well-known essay about how there's specifically no justice on Misplaced Pages and you shouldn't expect it because it would interfere with building an encyclopedia? Something like that? I'm sorry you didn't get in, George. Don't blame me, all my socks supported you. Perhaps Brad has some file with all his puns that he can share with you? So that you can still enjoy that part of arbitration. Bishonen | talk 22:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

Isn't WP:NOJUSTICE the obvious shortcut? NE Ent 22:56, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

No, hardly. Only the essays creator will ever think of that one! Good essay, Ent. Bishonen | talk 23:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC).

(ec) sorry, I couldn't vote for you, George, after you answered my question with "The edit is Andy Mabbett putting an infobox in a musician's biographical article." - That may have been what most arbs on the infoboxes case saw (if they looked), but it's just not so, and 16 other candidates saw it without help, - I voted for nine of those, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

This thread is not for serious things. Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:09, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

How would I know, when "no justice" comes up and I immediately think of the image above ;) --Gerda Arendt aka User:Gerda the Notorious Infoboxen wikiCriminal (talk) 23:13, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I demand that this attack upon me be rephrased either as a pun or in iambic pentameter. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 23:25, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I strongly recommend rephrasing as a pun; I have a little experience trying to write poetry here and it's harder than it looks. Brad is pretty good at both puns and poetry, but as I recall he does haiku or limericks or something; not hard stuff like iambic pentameter. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I am still too sad, tired, not good enough in English ... to do a pun or Haiku or even attack. I supported Darwinbish for admin, will that do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:41, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, I didn't think that you might be concerned about writing puns or poetry in English due to language issues. Your use of english in editing is fine. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 23:45, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

(e/c) Don't sell yourself short, Gerda; anyone can do a haiku:

Haiku's big secret

is that it actually is

as easy as you'd think.

Especially if

you just ignore kireji

and on and kigo.

--Floquenbeam (talk) 23:48, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

(outdent) I've perpetrated a haiku, a limerick, a double-dactyl, a parody, a sonnet, and a couple of overlong monstrosities otherwise unclassified. But it's been awhile, and I may be out of practice. These days, I might come up with nothing better than There once was a sock from Nantucket... Newyorkbrad (talk) 23:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

There once was a 'zilla from Bish-place

Who stomped on the tail of poor Tiktaalik

Darwinbish laughed, and Darwinfish wince.

Bishonen frown, and crowd be ashame.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 00:11, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Heh, very nice, George. I hope the Master of Shakespearean sonnets sees this thread. But what's everybody doing still up? You really keep some unchristian hours over there. Goodnight. Bishonen | talk 00:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC).

Still up? I'm in California, it's only about 5 pm now. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 00:59, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Floq:I just want to point out that haiku is not as easy as you'd think, because "as /ea/sy/ as/ you'd/ think" is six syllables. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 00:36, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Philistine. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Arbitrator. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 00:43, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Please read WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Fine, arbi-traitor. *ba-dum-tsh* Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 00:49, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Now I know why you're not named "Wit Keeper". --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

They say your haiku doesn't scan,

And hence deserves the garbage can?

The best response to that, I deem,

Is "I don't give a Floquen' Beam."

Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

(I really wish I'd thought of this earlier) Thanks for the defense, Brad. Criticizing the syllables in my haiku is just not on. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Bishonen's talk page.
Mirth and levity abound.
'Cept when she's burnt out. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 12:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

• For having too much fun, you are all indefinitely site banned. For the Authoritarian Committee, AGK 12:46, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Thank you, AGK. I suppose that'll have to console me for the lack of real drama following on what I flattered myself was a controversial block. Disappointing! But I welcome this opportunity to thank everybody for the very beautiful celebratory verses and spirited raillery above. (P.S. I though the standard term was "the Arbitrary Committee"?) Bishonen | talk 18:53, 9 January 2014 (UTC).

• sounds familiar --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

(I made a pun haiku poem, again late at my night but it's too serious for this thread, I moved it up to its title, Clay.) ::--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

With the same image: did you know that his blue duck attacks the German Main page right now? - had to happen on the 28th ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

edit conflict

Re: this edit... don't 'welcome' templates usually go at the top of the page? - WOLFchild 09:32, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Maybe. They're most often used on an empty page, and so end up on top. Insofar as it's a principle, it's in tension with the principle that you shouldn't top-post and thereby sideline the message that was there. Obviously the IP was an established user logging out in order to disrupt (there was a reason I didn't welcome them), but if you want to welcome them as emphatically as possible, feel free to move your welcome template back to the top. I admit I don't understand why you'd post the templated "Signature" message above my post. Bishonen | talk 12:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC).

No big deal. Cheers - WOLFchild 11:34, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back

Once addicted there's no escape from WP... Thomas.W 14:48, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Mmm. Maybe. Thanks, Tom. Bishonen | talk 18:55, 9 January 2014 (UTC).

Re: Socks

Hi Bishonen,
To be honest with you, I have not followed nor did I further investigate accounts misuse by Andajara. I suspect they will be back, but their pattern of behavior and POV-pushing should be fairly obvious to anyone. Cheers, Λuα 14:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Nice

I really liked this edit. It was a model of what I love about this project. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:52, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Philippe. Very kind of you to say so. Bishonen | talk 19:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC).

Can I draw your attention...

...to this? BMK, Grouchy Realist (talk) 12:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Aha, right, thanks. Those do look like likely precursors to Tollsnanak900 and Andajara120000. And the "forgot my password" theme again… It worries me, quite frankly, that Andaraja hasn't appealed the block. I won't be watching the articles — they're so foreign to my interests and competence, and also I want to remain uninvolved — but if anybody should see a suspicious "new" user editing them, I'll be happy to investigate. Bishonen | talk 19:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC).

User:Jayadevp13 who you self-blocked may be evading

You blocked User:Jayadevp13 at his request on 4.January 2013. Another account User:Wikiuser13 has started making edits identical on Aadhaar identical to Jayadevp13's in collaboration with previously blocked user User:Ravishyam Bangalore who has recently come out of an indefinite block. The article itself is a "highly POV topic" per Toddst1 and Ravishyam_Bangalore is a self admitted SPA and crank for this topic.

Jayadevp13 and Wikiuser13 seem to have similar editing patterns

Jayadevp13 tag-teamed for Ravishyam_Bangalore here after the latter was indeffed and . Now Wikiuser13 is doing the exact same thing here here as an extension of Ravishyam_Bangalore and .

The 2 editors have extensively coordinated, almost definitely off-wiki too, see this discussion and this IP's email notification (same ISP and Indian state as Jayadevp's) and also this .

As far as the IP addresses are concerned, Jayadevp13 edited from 117.199.176.190 which resolves to either Uttar Pradesh or Bangalore from where Ravishyam_Bangalore also edits see . Unfitlouie (talk) 18:50, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, gee, evading a self-requested block? I hope not; I hope he's focusing on school, per his request to be blocked. This conversation is admittedly somewhat suggestive of off-wiki coordination. On the other hand, Wikiuser13 started editing back in April 2013, long before I blocked Jayadevp13. Do you really think he's been socking since April? I find that hard to believe. It's possible, of course, and there may still be disruptive editing involved on the part of Wikuser. Anyway, if you'd like to pursue this, could you please approach another admin, or file an SPI report? I appreciate your efforts and your report, but I'd rather not deal with this.

P.S. Jayadevp13 states on his userpage that he's in Uttar Pradesh, so that's no secret. Bishonen | talk 20:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC).

I'm giving it one final try on the article talk page to get a fix on the sockmaster before taking it to a notice board. Now another IP from Uttar Pradesh has started editing the article once I put Wikiuser13 on the mat. But thanks for your insight. Won't bother you with this. Unfitlouie (talk) 09:20, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Indian dancing socks

And this+ Eh?Hafspajen (talk) 23:45, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

LOL. Fourth level vandalism warnings? I'd probably better block Drmies, Yngvadottir and Justlettersandnumbers. Meanwhile, I've whacked the sock. Thank you, Hafspajen. Bishonen | talk 00:05, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

I am trying to say it to you guys! Hafspajen (talk) 00:18, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

• Dissapointed. Nobody cared what I was trying to say to Drmies guys! (Down there)Never mind, done. Hafspajen (talk) 00:02, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

• Looks like you got your speed - momentum back... Hafspajen (talk) 22:00, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm all rested. Thanks for the dancing, hmmm… socks, are they? Bishonen | talk 22:36, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

Neeh, regular shoes. Hafspajen (talk) 22:41, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Hello

		Health warning
		Too much. NE Ent 19:13, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Haha. You should hear my mother (try to) tell the story. The hot weather is important. Have you got a pic of melted butter? Bishonen | talk 19:33, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

Thank you, that's most obliging. Now have you got a pic of a collapsing pram? Bishonen | talk 22:36, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

Will this picture of an apparently Danish barnevogn do? Thomas.W 14:24, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Aha, well I wasn't thinking of a collapsible pram, especially not such a handsome vehicle, Thomas, but of a pram actually in the course of collapsing. On account of being old and decrepit. Then it would suit the girlscouts-with-pram-full-of-butter story (destined never to be told). Even better if it was full of melting butter. Google Images's got nothing. Strange. Bishonen | talk 16:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

• Ent, I think most Scandinavians should be able to tell you that I was not joking. Of course, if all you need is a Pripps Bla every know and then you have no need for an alcohol bath on a ferry, and if you like margarine...well, if you like margarine I don't want to talk to you. Drmies (talk) 22:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Jasmine Waltz

I seriously doubt that the article's author intends it as an attack page. Most likely, they're a fan who doesn't see anything wrong with, for lack of a better phrase, celebrity gossip. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:55, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I can think of better phrases quite easily. But I have no notion that he meant or means any harm to the subject. (I've read his userpage with interest, and so I say "he".) I'm not concerned with his intentions, but only with their result; with the page, not with what was in the creator's mind. Incidentally, of course you've noticed that this is the page I referred to as an attack page, not this. Bishonen | talk 22:28, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

See, this is why wikipedia sucks. Someone is more concerned that you might have assumed the bad faith of some random user whose real name no one has to know - than that that user wrote a disparaging article about a real person, that could harm a real reputation. Stuff the real world, you didn't play the game rules you evil bitch.--Scott Mac 22:38, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Doc. (He does give his real name on his page, though, and he's only 18.) Bishonen | talk 22:46, 12 January 2014 (UTC).

Rev del

OK... hum... I figgered I had to revdel BMK's blanking of the offensive material too, or the blanking diff would still display it. But maybe not, because my action also made his next edit invisible. Not intended. How do you undo this stuff...? NE Ent, don't you know better than to ask somebody stupid, what's the matter with you? Bishonen | talk 12:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

Sigh. After messing around a little, it's visible again. I have no idea what I'm doing, but it looks all right. Bishonen | talk 12:47, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

What's the matter with you, editing Jimbo's talk page?? You were the first admin I saw currently online... someone had just referenced the page on ANI so I was in a very un Ent like hasty frame of mind. NE Ent 12:53, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Very well, you're forgiven. Unexpectedly, it turns out I'm a brilliant revdeleter. I'd never "edit" Jimbo's talkpage, please don't talk like that. It's just that my finger itched when I saw Scott M had accidentally crashed the section header. Bishonen | talk 13:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

Block requested

All right, I had an opportunity to respond on AE. Right now, I have absolutely no intention to continue editing here. Let's start from a two-month block. So, could you please block my account for two months right now? Please annotate this block as a block made by my own request. I read your conditions. Thanks a lot. My very best wishes (talk) 13:25, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

All right, I'll block you, but not "right now". I always insist on a certain quarantine time, and considering the events of yesterday, I can't in conscience make it less that 24 hours. So, in 24 hours from your post above I'll place the block, and please let me know if you change your mind before then. Afterwards, it'll be too late, per the conditions you've read. Bishonen | talk 13:55, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

OK, noted. Yes, I am frustrated.

1. First, such AE decision goes against our rules: a couple of admins can not unilaterally decide (and use this as a reason for sanctions!) that a Russian book was "fringe", even though this is merely a book (a secondary source) that describes an approach to teaching SRT, which is not new. The book was published by a major publishing organization in the Soviet Union after review by Vitaly Ginzburg and other physicists from Lebedev Physical Institute... It would be fine to discuss a source on WP:RS (as I suggested to Urgent01) and decide if this is a reliable source. But use my editing as a reason for immediate sanctions?!
2. Second, I am also offended by the fact that such sanction would label me as a COI editor, although whole my editing record (on a huge number of different subjects!) shows me as a dedicated volunteer, and it was me who recently argued on AN against paid editing. I think this is also unjust, because that was my first lapse of judgement which could be interpreted as a COI problem.
3. Finally, this is all on the top of my personal/privacy issues I am not going to debate.

If such sanction is enacted, and if I will be back after this block, I will file a clarification request about the "Pseudoscience" case to Arbcom. Sure thing, they did not mean people be sanctioned based on the obviously incorrect interpretation of a single source as "fringe". But this is big if. I hope two months will be sufficient to leave this place forever. Please do not take this an offense. I still believe that WP is an important information resource, but I just do not want to contribute any longer, given the circumstances. So, yes, please block me for two months in 24 hours. Thank you, My very best wishes (talk) 17:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

• I will. I'm sorry you've come to such a conclusion. It's much too common that people leave the project in bitterness. :-( Good luck in all your endeavors. Bishonen | talk 18:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

• I don't really know MVBW, but as another admin who does self-requested blocks, I saw this and wanted to chime in. WP is pretty good at grinding people down so that all that's left is the bitter residue. Speaking partially from experience, I think you'll find a 2 month complete break a good duration. One of 2 things is likely to happen. Either you'll come back with a better perspective, and enjoy editing again, or it won't appeal to you anymore, and it's enough time to break the "addiction", and you'll find it relatively easy to stay away when the block expires. In either case, a better solution than continuing to do something you hate but can't quite break away from. One bit of advice, FWIW: if possible, avoid the temptation to check in from time to time to see how things are going, whether you're blocked or not. Good luck with everything. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:51, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! One more request. If a notice of AE sanctions (and especially those which are currently debated) will be posted on my talk page, could you please remove this notice to keep my talk page clean? I will see it anyway. Ideally, I would like my userpage and talk page be protected during this block. My very best wishes (talk) 19:46, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I can fullprotect your userpage and semi your talk, if you like. The talkpage needs to be accessible for people to put important (or whatever) messages on. But I'll keep an eye on it, and remove stuff I think you won't want displayed in public. It might be a good idea for you to put a note right here, or else commented-out (=visible only in edit mode) on your own talk, stating that Bishonen has your permission to manage your talkpage during your block. Bishonen | talk 20:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

Then please protect userpage, and do not protect talk page. Sure, you have my permission to manage my talk page and sorry for the trouble. My very best wishes (talk) 20:25, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

FYI

Vogone (talk) 13:40, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I've replied there. Bishonen | talk 14:01, 15 January 2014 (UTC).

(talk page stalker) That's what I call being a WP-addict... Thomas.W 14:06, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah. I sympathise, but at the same time this block is being more trouble than I bargained for. Maybe I should remove myself from the category, at least for a while. Sigh. Bishonen | talk 14:30, 15 January 2014 (UTC).

Unblock on hold

Hello, Bishonen. I have been looking into the unblock request at User talk:50.0.121.102, regarding the Russian book and User:My very best wishes. What I see at the IP address is a consistent editing style, from a static IP address, suggesting one person editing. From User:My very best wishes I see another consistent editing style, and with occasional oddities in English (not surprisingly, since everything suggests that he/she is not a native English speaker), which do not occur in the IP editing. Indeed, in the IP edits I see a relaxed, sometimes colloquial use of English quite different from the account's writing. The IP editor also got the account's name wrong (miscapitalized) which could, of course, be a bluff, but the most obvious explanation is that he/she was not well acquainted with the name. There are also various other details such as this edit, contrasting with the clear impression that My very best wishes has a high opinion of the book. Apart from posting about this book, I don't see any significant overlap in the editing between the account and the IP address. Everything looks to me much less like block evasion than like an editor who saw the controversy over the book, got interested, searched further, found that there was evidence suggesting that the book might be a more reliable source than had been realised, and decided to raise the issue.

I am pretty close to unblocking, but I have put the unblock on hold, to allow you a chance to comment before I make a definite decision. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:30, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

That's fine, James, I don't object. Thanks for looking into it. I suspect off-site collusion, but these things are hard to prove. I agree with unblocking the IP. Bishonen | talk 13:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC).

Yes, off-site collusion is certainly a possibility, but I don't see any hard evidence for it, so I don't think we can really assume that there is any. Anyway, thanks for answering my query. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:12, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. No I haven't had any off-site contact with MVBW and hadn't had any contact with him at all until this incident. It's a pretty odd theory. If MVBW wanted to keep editing he wouldn't have had to use such subterfuges. He could have just refrained from asking to be blocked in the first place. The level of ABF that I see toward him is appalling. 50.0.121.102 (talk) 18:33, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand. It never occurred to me at any time that My very best wishes would have requested a block as some kind of "subterfuge". Of course he didn't. He wanted/needed to be blocked. But he might change his mind afterwards. Considering all his changes of mind in the days before I placed the block (most of them removed, but see the history of this page), it seemed far from unlikely. He's a wikiholic. He's not in bad faith. Bishonen | talk 21:49, 19 January 2014 (UTC).

Block me

Bishonen, I have read your requirements for self-requested blocks, and I think I meet them. Can you block me for 24 hours, starting as soon as possible? Jinkinson talk to me 01:42, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Just 24 hours? All right, I can do that without asking you why or insisting on any waiting period. Done. Have a good whatever you'll be doing! Bishonen | talk 09:09, 17 January 2014 (UTC).

Andajara120000

is back. Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Johnjohnjames. Dougweller (talk) 16:42, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Blocked per quacking. Bishonen | talk 17:45, 17 January 2014 (UTC).

And thank you, enough time wasted with that one already. Dougweller (talk) 18:09, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

re: " it's useless now"

Hi there Ms. Shonen - and yes ma'am, I completely agree. It served a purpose in the past; but that day, like the essay, has passed into history. Hope all is well with you and yours. Hugs, — ChedZILLA 03:26, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello there ChedZilla, I hope you and your sockmaster are in the pink. This is very strange. I don't feel obliged to reply any more, having said my say, and I hope nobody else does either. Misplaced Pages is supposed to be a hobby for chrissake, not medieval torture. (Not that I have any objection if people want to reply. Tastes differ.) Bishonen | talk 20:40, 19 January 2014 (UTC).

False dichotomy; see Self-defeating personality disorder "chooses people and situations that lead to disappointment, failure, or mistreatment even when better options are clearly available " NE Ent 20:52, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Master not happy. He give up good food because new doctor say bad. Not happy about health insurance .. he say so much talk is bullshit. But he have new doctor who help him, and he doing much better. He say he never ever get upset over wikipedia again - he say real life mean more. He think too many people on internet have emotional, social, and intellectual shortcomings. Not "bad" people - but not able to sort out things on Internet ... so he kind of not care anymore. He like you and family bunches though ... Master say to say hi to NE Ent too. Master think Ent a good one. Master miss you. Me miss the great real zilla too. wish all best things. Little Gerda user always be nice too ... me like her. Good little user. — ChedZILLA 02:49, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Gerda sees her name, blushing, sad, maestro died, and more loss, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

Launchballer 14:46, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Kvenland

Hello, Bish. Would you mind taking a look at Kvenland since there, for the umpteenth time, is a new editor there (BoArnezzz) who is edit-warring to get thousands of bytes worth of fringe theories into the article (an article that is fringe enough already as it is...). I have reverted twice today, and have left messages on their talk page, but he/she seems hell-bent on getting it into the article. Thomas.W 16:54, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't know anything about the topic area, nor about the editors in it, but from the dimmest reaches of my memory I have pulled out the citation to Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Kven, which may or may not help at all. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:47, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Wow, Brad, never disparage your memory, that was great. The problem is obviously chronic. It looks like semiprotection hadn't yet been invented at the time of the RFAR? I think a long, long semi + quick blocks of disruptive users as they appear would be appropriate. General sanctions obviously hadn't been invented either. Should somebody apply to have sanctions instituted for related articles (groan, not me) or should I just begin a reign of terror? Mind you, I don't know anything about the topic area either. What about Yngvadottir? Let her suffer.

Checking out BoArnezzz's edits in February 2013, btw, I got to reading the history and noticed what a lot of tendentious editing there was altogether round about then. Is it any use to try to get these articles into shape, or keep them so? What do you think, Brad, considering the obscurity of the subject, the existence of zealotry about it, and the anybody-can-edit principle at the heart of the project, perhaps we should formally declare Kvenland another Indian village, and just let it fester? It's only one of many rubbish dumps on Misplaced Pages, after all. Sorry, but I'm having grave doubts about the usefulness of wikis these days.

Compare MastCell's Cynic's Guide, point 19: "Misplaced Pages's processes favor pathological obsessiveness over rationality. A reasonable person will, at some point, decide that they have better things to do than argue with a pathological obsessive. Misplaced Pages's content reflects this reality, most acutely in its coverage of topics favored by pathological obsessives." Bishonen | talk 20:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC).

This lies just outside the area of my competency in history, so I haven't watchlisted it. And I was unaware of the ancient wiki-history, but it doesn't surprise me too much. I got a quick reminder of the national-ethnic tensions concerning Finnish-Sami topics in the mess over King of Kvenland; note that the edits I made to Kvenland were basically making the same fix to the material on Charles IX of Sweden. However I did rewrite Sitones, where the edit history shows conflict with an IP editor who was pushing a contentious theory derived from Kalevi Wiik (I've debated adding refs to that article; I found some condemnations in JSTOR), and this culminated in an attack on my talk page that you may recall, and my successful petition to have Amanbir Singh Grewal officially banned. All of which is to say, the article doesn't look too bad to me so I think a reign of terror would be best :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 22:18, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For the Canine humor contributions. Jag ska hålla mig borta från denna ytterst viktiga officiella sida. Hafspajen (talk) 14:00, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Woof! Och vov! Bishonen | talk 15:47, 25 January 2014 (UTC).

about Sitush

Arrogant-believes, his arguments and references are best, Illogical- he cant digest logical evidence- still trying to get the biology definition in Math book: Eg; has written about khatris origin from Dashrath Sharma on Rajputs book, idiot- cant understand references and read them, revert other persons changes without any reason (arrogant) and think he is always right.

Left the whole panjab chief's article blank.

Edit as per his choice, Khatri article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Satya301 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

OP blocked for a week. Sitush, feel free to remove this section if you like. Other people, please leave it alone. Bishonen | talk 15:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC).

Re: Abusing multiple accounts

Re your message: That would be IPhonehurricane95. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:22, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. That was quick. Bishonen | talk 20:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC).

Interaction bans

Supposing editor A appears to have violated the interaction ban with editor B. If editor B is not allowed to bring such behavior to anyone's attention on-wiki, what's the solution? E-mail? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:49, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, email an admin you trust, but such email complaints better be well-grounded. Anything speculative, frivolous or vexatious will be frowned on. Plus, I should think many other people will be keeping an eye out, at least in the immediate future while Jarndyce v Jarndyce is fresh in memory. I'd be surprised if there turns out to be much need for the three of you to complain of each other. And, not least, I'm sure none of you are going to violate the interaction ban. Bishonen | talk 00:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC).

Right. I have nothing to report, I just wondered about the mechanism should it become necessary. "Jarndyce v Jarndyce"? I don't know that one. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 00:36, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

The court case Jarndyce v Jarndyce in Bleak House, "a byword for an interminable legal proceeding", here applied to the combination of this ANI thread and this subsequent AN thread. Compare . Bishonen | talk 01:17, 27 January 2014 (UTC).

Oh, I see. Good comparison. I was never much for Dickens. In school I only read the Dickens stories they made us read, and Bleak House wasn't on the list. I typically refer to any interminable story as a megillah. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 05:03, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

You said something about posting the topic bans permanently (or "indefinitely"?) on my talk page. Would I be in violation of any interaction ban if I post the contents of those bans myself? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 00:41, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

What topic bans? The only ban that had consensus is the interaction ban that I posted in green letters on your page. Not sure what you mean by 'posting the contents of those bans'. The "contents" of the interaction ban are that green text. Do you mean, will you be in violation of the interaction ban if you follow my suggestion and move the green text to the top of your page..? No, of course not. If anybody objects to such a move, they'll be rankly wikilawyering, and had in any case much better RFAR me for admin abuse in "enabling" you. But don't do anything else with the green text, change it or discuss it or anything. Or post it on some other page. (Perhaps that was what you meant. Absolutely don't.) Bishonen | talk 01:17, 27 January 2014 (UTC).

(talk page stalker) Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning_naming_dispute#Baseball_Bugs_topic-banned NE Ent 02:33, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Don't know nothing about that, NE, I'm only the facilitor for the interaction ban. I'm not sure what instructions came with the Manning ban, but common sense suggests there's nothing to stop Bugs posting them at the top of his own page. After all, the reason for posting it would be that you're anxious to be able to remember its exact wording, right? As well as to be transparent to visitors on your page about your bans. But as I say, that's only reasonable provided you weren't told different by the body that placed the ban. And if what I say here is gamed in any way, you'll be in trouble, Bugs. The Manning ban is absolutely not for breaching experiments. Bishonen | talk 03:00, 27 January 2014 (UTC).

Wasn't implying any responsibility, just answering a question I likely knew answer to based on prior discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Editing_restrictions#Anchors_question NE Ent 03:06, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

For he on honey-dew hath fed, and drunk the milk of paradise! Bishonen | talk 03:28, 27 January 2014 (UTC).

If that's a quote from Bleak House, it looks like maybe I missed out on something. Yes, I'm referring to those other topic bans also; and yes, it's to remind myself to watch out, because 2 or 3 times recently I've gone too close to the edge of a violation. Subconsciously, I've had a problem with part of one of them because it's based on a false premise. So, better safe than sorry. Also, the next time (if any) that a troll tries to make a big deal out of a topic ban, I can remind the troll that they are already displayed for all the world to see, so what point is the troll trying to make? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 05:09, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Kubla Khan actually. It was Coleridge you missed out on. --Person from Porlock (talk) 14:22, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Or all the above. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 15:36, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Or Rush! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:52, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

WK, I hope you have a much older brother. If not, you got old long before your time. Signed, N. Peart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.91.40.38 (talk) 01:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

The concept of "summer capital" blows my mind. I wish we had one of those here, way up north with the 24 hour sunlight, indeed why not in Sarek (ping MastCell from below). And we could have the winter capital in southern Italy and sit in the plazas and drink latte all day. Bishonen | talk 21:15, 27 January 2014 (UTC).

I take it that "Xanadu" song has nothing to do with the roller disco movie of the same name? And anyone can have a summer capital. Anyone who can afford to own more than one house, that is. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 21:55, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Admit it...

... you went weak in the knees at Sarek's "cultivated macho glamour". Although considering that he's a hardcore Wikipedian whose username bespeaks a deeper-than-usual immersement in the Star Trek universe, these are obviously meanings of "cultivated", "macho", and "glamour" with which I was previously unfamiliar. MastCell  18:40, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Aha, but did you look at the talkpage? Even more analysis of my dreams and fantasies there, and of the other user's ("Many of us are "rugged and beautiful" as Bishonen has it, but we don't all hog the limelight to prove it."). The edit summaries, laid end to end, are a pocket roman épistolaire. Bishonen | talk 19:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC).

Per favore

Would you please be an absolute sweatheart and use you magical powers to undelete this image which some fuckwit has deleted. Then secondly see if you or any of your friends know how to use the original image here File:Firenza Palazzo Pitti.jpg which helpful soul who has clearly never been there has decide to change from it's natural pink stone glowing in the sunset, to something resembling a grey mental health institution - clearly reminding them of home. Any advice greatly appreciated. Oh yes, and I had a great Christmas and skiing period, and I am now fully returned so fuckwits beware as I am tidying up some old pages!  Giano  21:40, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

The admin who deleted it WP:CSD#I8 from English Misplaced Pages in April 2008, Pascal.Tesson hasn't edited since May 2010, so there shouldn't be an objection there. Obviously I'd strongly recommend slapping a {{keeplocal}} tag on it at the earliest opportunity if 'Shonen can do the undeletion.

The Commons image is a tougher one to sort out. The source file is still available at http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsc.06452/ and I've downloaded a high-resolution copy, so I can upload of version of that over the "colour-corrected" version, but we'll have to defend that from the zealots who have never seen the palazzo. Wish me luck. --RexxS (talk) 22:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I've done the deed on Commons - let's hope it sticks. At least the caption at Palazzo Pitti makes more sense now. --RexxS (talk) 23:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate your faith in me, Giano sweetheart, but I've never yet managed to help you with an image, have I? Rex, the un-colour-corrected one, the way the Commons image looked before 2009, is incredibly pink — that's not the one we're going for, is it? I don't know if I can indeed do the undeletion — does that possibility go back as far as 2008? Anyway, I must run, I'll look later, most likely it'll have to be tomorrow, in fact. Bishonen | talk 23:35, 27 January 2014 (UTC).

• The deleted image is this one:File:FirenzePalazzoPittiPiazzale.JPG and is present on Commons. Giano, you originally uploaded it from Italian Misplaced Pages, but it was later transferred over to Commons; hence, the reason it was deleted here. Risker (talk) 23:40, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Good detective work! Thank you, Risker. --RexxS (talk) 02:17, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Chère, my inclination is always to defer to Giano on matters of architectural aesthetics - did you read File talk:Firenza Palazzo Pitti.jpg? The image is a color photo lithograph, and is possibly deliberately tinted - as the caption in the Palazzo Pitti suggests, or it may be an artefact of the process. Either way if that's what Giano wants, then he has it. If somebody else wants a grey version, they can always re-upload the "colour corrected" version under a different filename and folks can take their pick. --RexxS (talk) 02:17, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you all, now isn't that nice pink image so much more attractive showing the pink sunkissed stone. The Medici owned many prisons, but they tended not to live in them. Thank you Risker too, I just wanted to know what the deleted image was, one can't trust these people not to delete something important - it's always best to know.  Giano  10:00, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh yes, RexxS could you please have a look here too ! Quite why Misplaced Pages has to dumb everything down to the level of a dust hovel in Boisse is beyond me.  Giano  10:07, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Indeed, Excellency! Would "Rear facade of Palazzo Pitti" be acceptable for the category name? --RexxS (talk) 14:14, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much Rex; the garden facade or the south eastern facade will be a vast improvement.  Giano  15:04, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Done, Excellency. I went with commons:Category:Garden facade of Palazzo Pitti in the end. The Germans persuaded me that it's a universally understood identifier. It really is quite pink isn't it. --RexxS (talk) 17:57, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I was talking about this one, Rex, the 2006 thumbnail. Anyway, I must be getting stupider and stupider… is there still some button I need to push..? I thought it would probably all get done if I dallied, and it has, hasn't it? Bishonen | talk 15:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC).

Oh that is clever of you; I do wish I had a brain like yours, but then one can't have brains and beauty. No doubt you've been missing me. I have just returned from a fortnight in a health spa, in a attempt to recover from my very traumatic Christmas. Never again will I accept an invitation to Christmas in Sicily. I don't know how Giano puts up with that dreadful woman he's married to - everytime I approached with some much needed advice on child rearing or staff management she became a manic schizophrenic; by New year it was obvious to me that she was developing a drink problem; then when I informed her that I was extending my visit - she began popping pills, so obviously she's a drug addict too. When I told her she'd feel better if I redecorated the house in more relaxing colours - she just reached for the phone and ordered a taxi - I said to her running away won't help you, but avoiding any reason, she then became abusive and had her gardeners manhandle me into the taxi. Well, I call that very rude - no wonder those children are all running riot, not to mention the goats everywhere. It was such a relief to be back in my beautiful tranquil room at Champneys. Now I am now thoroughly refreshed, invigorated and raring to go. You should try Champneys Mrs Bishonen; I'm told their weight loss program is very good for those that need it. So nice to be back. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 15:45, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you would be sitting pretty if you had a brain like mine! Bishounen are never fat, I thought everybody knew that. I tell you a Swedish joke. A woman much like your daughter-in-law said to her departing houseguests: "It was so lovely having you, welcome back soon! The new trees in our garden don't look much yet, but I hope they'll have grown to forest giants the next time you come!" Bishonen | talk 20:40, 28 January 2014 (UTC).

Marvellous! I now know two Swedish jokes. The other being where a man goes into a Swedish chemist's shop and asks to buy deodorant. The chemist replies "Certainly, sir. Ball or aerosol?" -- "Neither" comes the reply, "I want it for my armpits." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS2N1mBsEdM --RexxS (talk) 21:26, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Heaven is a half pipe

Well I never knew that - thanks for clarifying. GiantSnowman 19:17, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Alansohn

Bish, I was somewhat surprised at your vehemence against Alan. I've been glancing at the BLPN thread for days between grump and bus stop, and I wasn't sure if bus stop was being antisemitic or pro-jew, nor if grump was the polar opposite. I didn't like the language being used, mostly on the part of grumps "Jew tagging" so I didn't follow it too closely. In any case, I suspected someone was misbehaving, but they were off in their own private Idaho so I didn't want to interfere. My point is, it was confusing, so perhaps you should cut Alan a wee bit of slack? Two kinds of pork (talk) 06:35, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) I read the ANI debate, and Alan hasn't made any proper attempt to read what Andy wrote at any point in the thread. It's clear that a dislike of AndyTheGrump is what is motivating Alansohn, and they should step back. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 08:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

• Thank you both for coming here. TKOP, I didn't think the BLPN confusing, but I see now that it can be, perhaps especially if you don't take account of the hyphen in Jew-tagging (I notice you yourself leave out the hyphen), and I'll admit the hyphen may be a subtlety, especially for younger speakers. Jew-tagging, to me, is formed on the pattern of NPOV-tagging or civility-tagging, classic concepts in Misplaced Pages talkpage discourse. (For the grammar and the hyphen, see further User:Drmies in the ANI thread.) But altogether, I'm afraid I agree with Luke's impression that Alansohn isn't trying to read but merely casting his post as negatively as possible. That impression is certainly reinforced by Alansohn's characterization of this post by Andy as a 'rather lengthy rampage'. Andy's post is 123 words long… a good deal shorter than Bus stop's post that it's in response to, and about half the length of Alansohn's own post on ANI. It's not a big point, but to my mind it illustrates the way Alansohn is lobbing attacks at random. Bishonen | talk 13:52, 29 January 2014 (UTC).

• My name is Dries and I approve of Bishonen's invocation of Drmies's comment on the hyphen. Indeed, it may be subtle, but it's important, and I'm happy to see someone thinking carefully about grammatical aspects before insulting someone--because it was, of course, intended as an insult. Drmies (talk) 14:33, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Tablet devices aren't very kind to the hypen-inclined. I rather suspected that Andy was on the "good" side of things, but he was also being intentionally inflammatory. Ok, I had my say and am done here. Thank you for your feedback. Two kinds of pork (talk) 16:11, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Self-requested blocks

Hello, Bishonen. For some time I have been considering possibly adding myself to Category:Misplaced Pages administrators willing to consider placing self-requested blocks. Before doing so, I thought it might help to see what a few of those already in the category think about a few matters. I should be grateful if you would give me an idea, via either talk page or email, of your ideas on the following questions.

1. Why do you impose a list of requirements, rather than just saying "I will block you if you ask me to"? (I am not disagreeing with you, just wanting to know your thoughts on the matter.)
2. In your experience, how often, if at all, do you get such requests?
3. Do such blocks ever cause problems of any sort, and if so, how? JamesBWatson (talk) 15:35, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

You've got mail. Bishonen | talk 17:54, 29 January 2014 (UTC).

Option 5

Hi! I wanted to make sure that I didn't misunderstood you in the Grump proposal.

when you wrote

"If anybody feels they can summarize it better, do please feel free, because I'm not particularly confident about this four-barelled proposal"

I took that as permission to add my option 5 as allowed in WP:TALKO. Was that your intent? If not, I apologize for editing your comment without permission. --Guy Macon (talk) 23:47, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Guy. Since your addition came rather late in the proceedings, I suppose the perfect scenario would have been if you'd shown option 5 was added later, not just by a note further down, but by signing and dating your addition right in place. But that's a small point, you understood me perfectly fine. The user who removed your addition apparently didn't and doesn't, and seems surprisingly pleased with himself for screwing up the !voting in the name of principle. Apparently he doesn't see any virtue in my invitation to add a signed note in the place where he'd removed the material, either. Well, these things happen, not much I can do, and he's in general a good guy. Perhaps you should re-add the option yourself, with a note? Though it's getting even later, of course. Another boatload of people have commented while option 5 wasn't there, so the issue is probably fucked up beyond repair. :-( (P.S. I wish I'd thought to propose option 5 myself, it's a good one.) Bishonen | talk 01:33, 30 January 2014 (UTC).

Thanks! I think we can put this one to bed. --Guy Macon (talk) 01:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

To be fair, Bish, haven't we already learned over the last few days how bad an idea numbered options for topic bans can be? Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 03:56, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

WK, do I smell a faint whiff of Bish-tagging criticism here? Be careful, whippersnapper. Moosezilla doesn't take kindly to them kinds of words. Drmies (talk) 19:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

54's again

What would be the best way to institute a ban on the 54-subnet, Amazon-based IP-hoppers? It's clear that their sole purpose for being here is to criticize other editors. Individual blocks aren't accepted by the AIV page, and they don't do any good anyway. I'm thinking an interaction ban could be the solution. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 13:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

User:AndyTheGrump and use of "Jew-tagging" as a slur

AndyTheGrump has latched onto the term "Jew-tagger" and used it as part of derogatory personal attacks on multiple occasions for well over a year, including this edit from last January where he calls Bus stop " an obsessive Jew-tagger". The term was intended as part of a personal attack and is used as a slur. There's this June 2012 edit referring to how "the Jew-tagger in chief turns up". Of course, there's my favorite at this edit, where AndyTheGrump opines that "Bus stop is a Jew-tagging bigot. There are two types of Jew-tagging bigots in the world. The 'pro-Jewish' ones, and the 'anti-Jewish' ones. It is becoming increasingly difficult to tell them apart. Misplaced Pages would be a lot better off if it told all of them them to fuck off elsewhere."

I am more than familiar with the use of "-tagging" as a suffix. The problem is using "Jew-" as a prefix. This article in The Forward offer's a professor's perspective on the use of "Jew" as a pejorative adjective, noting that "To 'Jew someone down,' as in bargaining, has made its derogatory way as a verb, and a 'Jew store' turns the proper noun into an offensive adjective." The article Jew (word)#Antisemitism makes it clear that "The word Jew has been used often enough in a disparaging manner by antisemites that in the late 19th and early 20th centuries it was frequently avoided altogether, and the term Hebrew was substituted instead (e.g. Young Men's Hebrew Association). Even today some people are wary of its use, and prefer to use "Jewish". Indeed, when used as an adjective (e.g. "Jew lawyer") or verb (e.g. "to jew someone"), the term Jew is purely pejorative." I fail to see "Jew-tagging" as a neutral term and I fail to see how you can condone AndyTheGrump's repeated use "Jew-tagging" as part of a lengthy series of provocations and personal attacks on User:Bus stop and other editors.

"Jew-tagging" is far from his only problem. AndyTheGrump's edit history shows a lengthy pattern of abusive personal attacks and a block log almost as long. There's this edit from late October where AndyTheGrump says "I will treat you as I find you - as a clueless and obnoxious little shit, with all the psychological attributes of a two-year-old. Now go run to mummy and complain about what the big man called you... ", with the helpful edit summary of "fuck this, I've had enough of this imbecile". Or go all the way back to July for an edit summary of "fuck off" on top of other personal attacks. My identifying what appears to me and several other editors to be borderline hate speech is blockable in your world, but AndyTheGrump can do nothing that is sufficiently over the line to merit yet another block for even this latest set of egregious offenses.

As seen from his block log and based on your close interactions with AndyTheGrump (see here, for one of many examples), it appears that you may well be too deeply involved with him and that it is likely that you have been blinded to his consistent pattern of vicious personal attacks in general and his use of what I and many other editors perceive to be his continued use of racist code words here. I can't go into his mind and figure out why he is using these slurs, but the weight of evidence is that the usage of "Jew-tagging" constitutes a thinly veiled religion-based attack, regardless of his unknowable internal motivation for repeating these "Jew-tagging" attacks ad nauseum.

It has been made clear to AndyTheGrump that the term "Jew-tagging" is offensive, yet he has persisted in using the term as part of a slur in his personal attacks. In the edit that brought Bus stop to ANI, with the summary of "I've had enough of this Jew-tagging troll", AndyTheGrump drops the Jew bomb not once, or twice, or only three times, but on four separate occasions, five if you count the edit summary, calling Bus stop "a complete imbecile or a clueless Jew-tagging troll", "I've called you a clueless Jew-tagging troll", "Misplaced Pages isn't a platform for Jew-tagging trolls" and "your Jew-tagging agenda is contrary to the objectives of Misplaced Pages." In your mind that's OK. In addition to the sources listed above, Sol Steinmetz in Dictionary of Jewish Usage: A Guide to the Use of Jewish Terms defines the usage as "derogatory" and in American Usage and Style, the Consensus, Roy H. Copperud makes clear that using "Jew as an adjective is now derogatory". No one who has any understanding of the use of the word "Jew" as a slur can approve of this usage of "Jew-tagging", but you support AndyTheGrump here.

As he himself indicates in this edit and this one too, AndyTheGrump believes that other people should be blocked for bigotry. It's well past the time that the community push away those editors who have been enabling him and impose the lengthy ban needed for AndyTheGrump and his repeated use of what are widely recognized as religious-based slurs as part of his personal attacks. I look forward to your thoughts on the ample published sources showing that the use of "Jew" as an adjective in his manufactured term "Jew-tagging" is derogatory and your explanation for defending AndyTheGrump and his repeated use of "Jew-tagging" as part of his lengthy series of personal attacks. Alansohn (talk) 19:09, 30 January 2014 (UTC)