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::2. Colloquialisms where far more encyclopedic alternatives are obvious <br/> ::2. Colloquialisms where far more encyclopedic alternatives are obvious <br/>
::] (]) 20:25, 8 February 2014 (UTC) ::] (]) 20:25, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
:::"Invasion" is neither a {{xt|Trendy slogan}} or a {{xt|Colloquialism}}. It is the WP:COMMONNAME which accurately depicts the wide usage of the phrase "Turkish invasion" in the English language and does not attempt to hide the name of the invader by using almost non-extant terms like "1974 Cyprus War" whose frequency in the English language is almost nil. ]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 05:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
* '''Strong oppose'''. Per my arguments in the closed move request from May 2013 above. This is the common name used in the reliable sources and encyclopedias. ]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 16:30, 8 February 2014 (UTC) * '''Strong oppose'''. Per my arguments in the closed move request from May 2013 above. This is the common name used in the reliable sources and encyclopedias. ]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 16:30, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
:: When deemed both intervention/invasion includes some degree of bias and POVs, "May 2013 move request" ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "Turkish '''intervention''' in Cyprus") is ''in essence'' a change request from a biased approach to another one; from less biased to more biased or vice versa depending on which side of the parties someone is located. On the other hand, ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "1974 Cyprus war") name change suggestion is almost free from any bias and POVs. Hence, the natures and characters of the name changes ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "Turkish '''intervention''' in Cyprus") and ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "1974 Cyprus war") is completely different. Furthermore, the name change ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "1974 Cyprus war") will decrease and lessen total composite aggragate degree of bias and POVs (of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots) in Misplaced Pages.] (]) 22:38, 8 February 2014 (UTC) :: When deemed both intervention/invasion includes some degree of bias and POVs, "May 2013 move request" ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "Turkish '''intervention''' in Cyprus") is ''in essence'' a change request from a biased approach to another one; from less biased to more biased or vice versa depending on which side of the parties someone is located. On the other hand, ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "1974 Cyprus war") name change suggestion is almost free from any bias and POVs. Hence, the natures and characters of the name changes ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "Turkish '''intervention''' in Cyprus") and ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "1974 Cyprus war") is completely different. Furthermore, the name change ("Turkish '''invasion''' of Cyprus" → "1974 Cyprus war") will decrease and lessen total composite aggragate degree of bias and POVs (of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots) in Misplaced Pages.] (]) 22:38, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
::: Our task here is to neutrally represent what is said in leading, reliable sources. Our task isn't to represent the invasion/intervention/war/what-have-you 'neutrally' -- if such a thing is possible. 'Cyprus war' is scarcely used in literature, and so renaming the article to that would not be neutral. — ] (]) 22:57, 8 February 2014 (UTC) ::: Our task here is to neutrally represent what is said in leading, reliable sources. Our task isn't to represent the invasion/intervention/war/what-have-you 'neutrally' -- if such a thing is possible. 'Cyprus war' is scarcely used in literature, and so renaming the article to that would not be neutral. — ] (]) 22:57, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
::::I agree. The term "1974 Cyprus War" is almost non-existent. In addition it is also misleading because it hides the name of the principal initiator of that war, which is Turkey, and the nature of the war which was an invasion. Such transparent attempt to hide these facts is non-neutral POV. ]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">]</span></sup></small> 05:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
*I took out the quotes... Umm, '''neutral''' for now I guess, but leaning towards a support. I'll wait and see what more experts say. ]] 22:17, 8 February 2014 (UTC) *I took out the quotes... Umm, '''neutral''' for now I guess, but leaning towards a support. I'll wait and see what more experts say. ]] 22:17, 8 February 2014 (UTC)



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The Junta's first choice was not Nikos Sampson

Triantafyllides, Severis were approached to take over the Presidency before Sampson.

"In fact, there were at least two other persons who were asked to take the office of President before Sampson was approached; the Chief Justice, Michael Triantafyllides, and Zenon Severis. Triantafyllides, who was head of the Supreme Court, ..." Cyprus at war: diplomacy and conflict during the 1974 crisis, Jan Asmussen - 2008

"The plotters' second choice was said to be the President of the Supreme Court, Mr M. Triantafyllides, but he was found to be absent from the island. The third choice was Mr Z. Severis, honorary Consul General of Finland, but he sent Sampson ..." A Business of Some Heat: The United Nations Force in Cyprus 1972-74 , Francis Henn - 2004

Not sure but Glafcos Clerides seems to ring a bell too. The text should be changed to "third/fourth choice Sampson" or "the Junta settled for Sampson because they couldn't find any important figure to collaborate with them". Something like that. HelenOfOz (talk) 23:42, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

"More than one quarter of the population of Cyprus (mostly Greek Cypriots) was expelled"

This phrase glosses over the circumstances of the "expulsion". It is not as if their visas expired and they were politely asked to leave in an orderly fashion. They were attacked, terrorized and chased away at the point of a gun. This phrase needs to be changed to reflect that reality. HelenOfOz (talk) 23:19, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Pogrom and Persecution are nouns of the Expulsion from what I know, but I don't think their meaning describes accurately the events in Cyprus. "Expulsion of Cypriots from their homeland" is correct. --79.130.55.120 (talk) 17:49, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Merge discussion

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The discussion resulted in the formation of a consensus to merge the articles. SalopianJames (talk) 15:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Afternoon folks, I'd like to propose the merger of the stub Operation Atilla into this article, as it simply covers the code names of the events described in this article and therefore is duplicating information to no real purpose. SalopianJames (talk) 14:32, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

The topic of this discussion is the merge proposal, not the article title. If you wish to have it changed, please initiate a separate discussion and gain consensus for change before doing so. SalopianJames (talk) 10:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Merge These are inb essence the saem thing.Slatersteven (talk) 13:49, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Merge without prejudice to recreation if the detail becomes too much for this article. CMD (talk) 15:25, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Merge. The existing Operation Atilla article is a stub with minimal information, all of which logically belongs here. As for the proposal to rename this article, that is a completely separate matter which (IMO) has no bearing on whether the tidbits in the Operation Atilla article should be merged into this article. By saying this, I am not taking any position regarding "invasion" vs. "intervention" — I am only saying that it's a separate issue and needs to be dealt with separately. — Richwales 16:16, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Well folks, this has been up for a week and I'd say calling it a consensus would be pretty non-controversial, so I'm going to execute the merge. The naming issue can be discussed at a later time if desired. SalopianJames (talk) 15:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
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Invasion-Intervention discussion

Maybe this explanation by British MP Michael Stephen of why Turkey "invaded" Cyprus could also be useful in further developing this article in WP. --E4024 (talk) 08:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Just for reference, here is our own definition of an invasion, as written in the lead to Invasion: "An invasion is a military offensive consisting of all, or large parts of the armed forces of one geopolitical entity aggressively entering territory controlled by another such entity, generally with the objective of either conquering, liberating or re-establishing control or authority over a territory, forcing the partition of a country, altering the established government or gaining concessions from said government, or a combination thereof." SalopianJames (talk) 09:07, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the easy reference, Salopian. So may I assume now that you already read the source I provided and began to think about how to reshape the Turkish invasion of Cyprus so that it could become a more neutral and reliable WP article? --E4024 (talk) 09:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome. I did indeed read the reference you provided regarding ethnic strife on the island prior to 1974. That is, of course, very much the case - one of the main reasons the United Nations deployed a peacekeeping force to Cyprus was in order to prevent further intercommunal violence between Greek and Turkish Cypriots, although this of course was intended to work in both directions. I would like to point out that my quoting the passage above in no way indicates my opinions regarding the article's title etc. - I merely thought it useful to provide a etymological reference point for the discussion. SalopianJames (talk) 10:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Good to hear that you noticed the UN Force was installed in 1964 (after the Bloody Christmas) not in 1974. --E4024 (talk) 16:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Details of how the intervention was decided

Here. These details may help the users who wish to develop the article to make it a more neutral, balanced and objective text. --E4024 (talk) 15:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

This is an interesting piece, and it may be useful as one of many sources relevant to the issue.
A question that needs to be asked/answered here is this: What, exactly, is the underlying issue driving the "invasion vs. intervention" semantic disagreement?
My first reaction, as a native North American English speaker, is that "invasion" implies an aggressive first move — whereas "intervention" implies getting involved in an already-existing conflict, possibly with a view toward forcing a stop to hostilities. At the same time, "intervention" can also imply getting involved in an existing situation regardless of its nature (e.g., unwelcome "intervention" in another country's internal affairs).
I'm assuming at this point that the dispute here has to do with whether Turkey's actions were an "invasion" for purposes of aggressive conquest (a typical Greek Cypriot view?), or whether Turkey "intervened" in response to real or perceived Greek and/or Greek Cypriot threats in order to protect the Turkish Cypriots (a typical Turkish Cypriot view?).
My current gut impression is that both of these perspectives may have some merit — but that's not really the point, because we (Wikipedians) should not be trying to find out "the truth" with regard to this or any other question. The NPOV policy requires us to present, fairly and without bias, all significant views published by reliable sources. It obviously becomes harder to do this when an article's title is involved, but WP:TITLE does give some guidance.
Per WP:POVTITLE: "When the subject of an article is referred to mainly by a single common name, as evidenced through usage in a significant majority of English-language reliable sources, Misplaced Pages generally follows the sources and uses that name as its article title (subject to the other naming criteria)." I'm not at all sure whether this applies to the events in Cyprus in 1974, because these events simply did not permeate the mass media in the English-speaking world to such an extent as to give rise to a name as universally memorable as, say, the "Vietnam war" or the "Cuban missile crisis".
I suspect here that WP:NDESC (the other main criterion, for "non-judgmental descriptive titles" created by Misplaced Pages editors) may be more applicable here. Per WP:NDESC, such made-up titles "should reflect a neutral point of view, rather than suggesting any editor's opinions." Since there is a clear controversy here over whether the operation was an "invasion" or an "intervention", it might be preferable to select a name for the article that uses neither of these terms. For example, we might want to consider renaming this article to "1974 Turkish military actions in Cyprus" (with both "Turkish invasion of Cyprus" and "Turkish intervention in Cyprus" as redirects). Another possibility might be to call it "Operation Atilla" (with the same redirects) — a name which is probably neutral precisely because it is not widely known or used (!).
Sorry for being so lengthy here, but sometimes an argument like this requires people to go back to the beginning and make sure the underlying issues are clearly articulated and understood. — Richwales 17:38, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

On the contrary, Richwales, thanks for the insight. I only wonder if you missed the article by the British MP just at the above section. We are not talking only about "threats" against the Turks here, but also massacres committed by the Greeks (see below) under their politico-religious leader Makarios referred as "genocide attempt" by some very serious and important third party statesmen. --E4024 (talk) 22:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Speaking about Cyprus I like to use the words Turk and Greek for the following reasons. (Turks): In Turkish we don't even have an equivalent of "Turkish Cypriot". It should translate as "Türk Kibrisli"; a denomination I never saw used by anyone. We use "Kibris Türkleri" which means "the Turks of Cyprus". As regards the Greeks (of Cyprus): When they pursue ENOSIS they call themselves Greeks, when they wish to emphasize certain separate identity from Greece, they call themselves Cypriots, when they pretend to extend a hand to the Turks of Cyprus they call themselves "Greek Cypriots". This Greek behaviour is important to understand anything about Cyprus and to write Cyprus-related articles in WP. There are two peoples, part of the Turkish and Greek nations, in Cyprus. This is intended to use in the article. It is related to the Greek policies of ethnic cleansing (also see the MP article above) against the Turks of Cyprus. --E4024 (talk) 22:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
The terms we use to identify the ethnic groups on Cyprus need to be driven by what the reliable sources say. And since this is the English Misplaced Pages, we have to be guided primarily by what English-language sources say. In English, you're going to find that the prevailing terms are "Turkish Cypriot" and "Greek Cypriot" — possibly also "ethnic Turk" and "ethnic Greek". No matter how awkward and unnatural these expressions may seem to you, the fact is that the bare terms "Turk" and "Greek" are not generally used in English to refer to the people on Cyprus; rather, these terms are universally going to be understood by English speakers to refer to people from Turkey and Greece, respectively. Similar terminology is used, for example, when English speakers/writers discuss the situation in Kosovo — "Kosovar Albanians" or "ethnic Albanians", but not "Albanians" (this last term is generally reserved for referring to people from Albania). You may object to these terms, but you'll be fighting a losing battle, because this is the reality of what terms are customarily used in English-language reliable sources. We can still talk about ethnic cleansing, genocide, etc., wherever we see it documented in the sources, without any need to ignore or defy the established naming conventions in our language.
And I did see the other article you cited. However, we still need to present all sides of the subject in accordance with the way the reliable sources treat it. We can not say that we (Wikipedians) have been so thoroughly convinced by material from one side that this side becomes "the truth", the one and only "neutral" viewpoint, and thus we will be guided completely by this one side and treat other views as belonging to the marginal fringe (treating other sources as unreliable precisely because they disagree with what we have chosen to embrace as the truth). This article (as well as other Cyprus-related articles) can and should explain atrocities committed by Greek Cypriots (and/or Greeks from Greece) against Turkish Cypriots — in accordance with what the mainstream (and primarily English-language) sources have to say about this. But if there are reliable sources alleging atrocities committed by Turkish Cypriots (and/or Turks from Turkey) against Greek Cypriots, we must include that in the article too. Anyone who is so close to this topic that they can't bring themselves to do this may be better off working on other parts of Misplaced Pages (or perhaps not working on WikipediIa at all); this is especially true for anyone (not any of us, I trust) who is so close to this topic that they're prepared to disrupt the article rather than allow the "other side" to be presented. — Richwales 06:16, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
I never quite understood the whole invasion/intervention debate before reading that article, but I think it's a bit clearer now. Intervention seems to be used as a way to describe the aims of the Turkish army, intervening in attacks on Turkish Cypriots, and not simply as a way to avoid the word invasion. Like Richwales, I also understand intervention to be a much broader term, with invasion being a direct and probably aggressive action.
E4024, your sources are interesting and may be able to be used, but just posting them and hoping might not get you far. Many users, while interested in the topic and willing to help, will have time commitments elsewhere. It takes time to create good sourced prose. If you're discouraged from directly editing articles, why not suggest specific prose changes, editing existing text or inserting new information, on the talkpage? Providing a starting point of prose to insert, rather than just a source, will bring much more progress. CMD (talk) 15:40, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
There were no massacres against Turkish Cypriots until after Turkey violated the cease fire on the 14th August and resumed attacks against Greek Cypriots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/Maratha,_Santalaris_and_Aloda_massacre
If you want another semantic argument, can we say Turkey "caused" those massacres ? We can argue that those massacres would not have occurred if Turkey did what it was supposed to do. That is, Turkey should have allied itself with the Makarios forces fighting the Junta, help defeat the Junta, restore democratically-elected Makarios to the Presidency, try and jail the coup plotters, and then withdraw the military forces back to Turkey when the political situation was stable again. And repeat this in the future if needs be. That is what the civilized world considers "intervention". Instead Turkey, shamelessly and cynically, treated those Greek Cypriots fighting the Junta as enemies, failed to take any steps whatsoever to join forces with them, attacked them, and eventually violently ethnically cleansed them from their lands on the 14th of August 1974. Obviously Turkey's despicable actions horrified and infuriated *ALL* Greek Cypriots. Sadly, some of these Greek Cypriots had a murderous rage and took it out on the innocent Turks of 3 villages. So there you have your argument. Turkey "caused" the atrocities at those 3 villages. Much more plausible than "intervention". HelenOfOz (talk) 01:04, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Here you have some text proposal reverted 10-15 minutes ago. --E4024 (talk) 15:48, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

That should be discussed on that article's talkpage. CMD (talk) 17:24, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Denominations+

@Richwales: I have no objection to the use of "Turkish Cypriot" and "Greek Cypriot", as these are UN terminology, just as I had stated in my first days on discussing Cyprus-related issues, here, under the section titled "Cypriots". The question I am trying to raise is to shed some light on how to understand better the history of Cyprus; somehow it is tied to the sad instances of Turco-Greek relations through centuries, especially the past two cc.

And this is the (+) part: I have an impression -it may be wrong, naturally- that in every article that relates to Turks and Greeks in En:WP there is a lack of balance, as regards NPOV, in favour of the Greek positions. We cannot explain this with facts or reasons like the Greeks are more active in WP, there are not so many Turks as Greeks with a good level of English etc; it is a question directly related to the character (not nature), reliability and thus prestige of the encyclopedia called WP. These articles must attract the attention of third country users and they should contribute. (This is why I asked Mr Salopian the other day to give me a hand on a source I found and to write something positive about the Turkish position, instead of me myself doing it, as a declared Turk.)

The sources I provide in Talk pages are available to all; anybody could find them. I wonder why a user with a "Helenic" nickname never adds something positive about the Turks... (I am not questioning their feelings about the Turks, I am questioning their approach to WP.) If you write in search boxes "Good Turks" you find "Good Turks", if you write "Good Greeks" you find "Good Greeks". If you write "Bad Turks" or "Bad Greeks" you find the "bad Turks and bad Greeks".

I may be accused of having tried to impose my national POV at times, especially in my first days here, due to lack of experience, but it was a reaction to my still valid impression on the imbalance stated above. As I also have observed that the Turkish users' eagerness to change this imbalance (in my case only towards a "balance" nothing else) is regarded by suspicion, not to use other words, by users with Helenic nicknames. What would a user think if his/her contribution is only rejected due to a grammatical or even ortographical mistake, instead of correcting that mistake? I suppose that his gr or orth mistake is taken as a "pretext" to keep the imbalance. (I am not saying this for any particular contribution; only as a general observation.)

P.D. I will continue writing in the Talk Pages and hoping others to take action in articles. I have been sanctioned for "edit warring" once and do not want to experience the same; although I still wonder how one can make war "all alone" without another warring party... --E4024 (talk) 10:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification on terminology. I certainly believe that Misplaced Pages's coverage of not only the Cyprus conflict, but of other regional/ethnic conflicts as well — including, amongst others, Kosovo, Bosnia, Georgia, and Israel/Palestine — should be as comprehensive and balanced as we can make it, recognizing that people on all sides have grievances they consider to be valid and (for the most part) simply want the ability to live peaceful and pleasant lives.
It is certainly possible that the English-language media, in general, has been slanted to a degree toward the Greek side of the Cyprus dispute. And since WP:NPOV requires us to respect what the available reliable sources say, there might therefore be some risk of our being inclined to favour the Greek side because it is more thoroughly and/or eloquently represented in our sources. I'm not defending this as such, simply acknowledging the possibility of an inherent bias which we may need to be careful with.
And I'll also say that we've certainly got people here who are pro-Turk(ish-Cypriot), as well as those who are pro-Greek(-Cypriot). It's unfortunate that some of our most memorable activity on the Cyprus conflict has come from one pro-Turkish editor who has been so h*||-bent on advancing his viewpoint that even after he managed to get himself kicked off Misplaced Pages for recurring disruption, he has refused to let go and has come back again and again under new identities. This sort of activity, in my opinion, does far more harm than good to his cause; indeed, for a long time to come, I fear that any new editor who tries to get involved with the Cyprus topic, and who displays pro-Turkish sentiments, is going to find himself immediately under suspicion of being a "sock of a banned user", and I can't rule out the possibility that one or more legitimate, naïve new users might end up being chased away on that basis. — Richwales 17:47, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
@Richwales: This is the way you are expecting the rather new users to act? Here. Let's see what I receive... --E4024 (talk) 11:52, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
I'll add my bit. I have no idea why on other Greek and Turkish related articles there is a tendency towards the side of the Greeks but in relation to Cyprus I'll try to explain. This is a country traumatized by Turkey's invasion, and also a country that has had strong nationalism since the 50s. The United Nations recognized Turkey as an invader, and the Greek Cypriots received support in aid as well as in international politics. Remember, this all takes place in the 70s, when the events of the 50s and 60s are still fresh and no history has been written for them. Since the invasion, Greek Cypriots were seen as the victims of the conflict, having suffered the greatest losses and being in control of the recognized state in Cyprus, now in partial occupation. After the invasion, questioning the government on the missing people, on its honesty and its motives in relation to the Cyprus Dispute became socially and politically unacceptable. The events of the 40s, 50s and 60s remained in silence, closed subjects never to be opened. In school the state promoted a mythology instead of history, teaching the EOKA struggle and then the Turkish Invasion. That's 14 years missing. The political elites of the 2 communities promoted their own mythology and propaganda, suppressing proper historical investigation, since many of the members of the political parties were involved in the events of the 60s and 70s. Also remember that no communication existed between the two communities. After the opening of the checkpoints in 2003 researches from both communities met up and co-operated in researching Cyprus history and society using their combined data. Only in the late 90s we start to see a tendency of Cypriot historiography that touches upon the inter-communal conflict of the 60s, the slaughter and marginalization of TCs, the relation of the national party to the economic elite,the suppression of communism, the relation of the cold war to the conflict, the extremist groups of the two communities being linked to the Stay Behind network, the knowledge of the state that the missing persons are dead, the darker sides of the EOKA struggle etc. Therefore what reliable sources you find from the 70s to the 90s will tend to tilt towards the GCs (and I indicate the word reliable, because a lot of material from TCs and GCs in this period is propaganda), following the 90s more reliable and balanced sources start to become available.--Tco03displays (talk) 19:52, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Article classification

Can I please draw attention to the fact that this article does not appeared to have been accurately assessed for class, given that the five WikiProjects with banner templates here have assessed it differently, with one unassessed, two Start-class, one C and one B given in the templates. Might be considered timely to review these and attempt to gain some consensus on the articles's class? Thanks, SalopianJames (talk) 18:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Ecevit

Legendary Turkish Prime Minister -and man of letters- who ordered the "invasion" believed that when "a man was sure he was morally right, he should not hesitate to take action". A man who translated Tagore when he was only 14, the "barbarian Turk" ordered the military intervention in Cyprus but could not even get himself a place in the infobox of the relevant WP article. Here is what the Economist wrote about him. --E4024 (talk) 16:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

As best I can tell, the "commanders and leaders" listed in the infobox of this article are the military officers in command of the army units. Bülent Ecevit was Turkey's civilian leader at the time, so it wouldn't seem appropriate to put him there. Nikos Sampson is also not included in the infobox, for that matter; and unless I'm mistaken, the leaders of the Greek military dictatorship aren't there either — just the military leaders directly involved in leading or opposing the invasion / intervention / peacekeeping / whatever-we're-going-to-call-it.
Also, in order to avoid any suggestion that we're straying into WP:NOTAFORUM territory, I would recommend we keep the discussion at a calmer, more dispassionate level. If I were making what I believe is your argument here, I would probably word it something like this: "Turkish Prime Minister Bülent Ecevit was a key player in the Turkish military intervention in Cyprus. Why is he not listed amongst the Turkish 'commanders and leaders' in this article's infobox?"Richwales 17:20, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

The Sinful Past of the Sixties Generation & Henry Kissinger in giving the green light to Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus.

A new article that might help the process of objectivity.

The prospect of Enosis was ruled out forever by a special provision of the Zuerich--London agreements by which Cyprus was proclaimed an independent state. This historical compromise, though opposing the pro-Enosis sentiments of the people, was the tragic epilogue of the armed struggle of EOKA. Tragic because, as things had developed, the compromise of independence was the last barrier in the road to partition.

Independence was, therefore, in 1960 a painful reality to which the Greek Cypriots had to adjust, because any re-agitation of the demand for Enosis would support Turkish claims to the island. Responsibility for the preservation of independence, as the only remaining alternative to partition, fell to the political leadership, because the people were still ignorant of the great national dead ends to which the Cyprus issue had been led.

Makarios Drousiotis Eleftherotypia Athens 19/07/1997

The recent release by the CIA of documents concerning the agency’s illegal surveillance of Americans and involvement in the assassinations of Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam, Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic, Salvador Allende of Chile, and Patrice Lumumba of Congo, as well as assassinations plots against Fidel Castro, prove what authors and scholars have already concluded about the agency. Most noteworthy is the involvement of Henry Kissinger in giving the green light to Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus.

http://grhomeboy.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/cia-document-confirms-kissingers-involvement-in-selling-cyprus-for-30-silver-pieces/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Euclidthalis (talkcontribs) 12:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request (Ref. 50)

The ref no 50 is a dead-end link. The sentence referenced by the link is an important claim. If in three days the link is not repaired and I may not see that it is a reliable source, I will delete that sentence. --E4024 (talk) 09:11, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Please see WP:DEADLINK. As a matter of good practice we never delete cited information even if dead-linked. Try fixing it instead using the Internet Archive. Δρ.Κ.  14:50, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
I just fixed it. Δρ.Κ.  15:01, 19 September 2012 (UTC)


Ref. 50 and the above "intervention-invasion" discussion

We discussed a lot about the wording "intervention-invasion" lately. While we made this discussion the ref 50 of the article was not available to see the source text. (Later it was revelealed it was a question that could be arranged in only one minute.) The text in question, a "Fact Sheet" of the government of the RoC that appeared at the webpage of the Press and Information Office of the said republic, refers to the Turkish intervention with the words "intervention" or "military intervention" while it never uses the word "invasion" as it is (only once as "invaded"). Some of our editors (like myself) have been on the part of the "intervention" wording; if we could read this source we could have used the government of RoC references on our behalf. Well, it is the Law of Murphy; you never have at the right time something you need. As they say in Spanish "cosas de la vida" or with the French saying "c'est la vie". Our bad luck... --E4024 (talk) 10:29, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Removal of picture

I have removed File:Sandallar turkish cypriots.jpeg for several reasons. First it originates from the now dead link http://www.mucahit.net/dergiler/dergi65/Sayfa_26.htm which is a propaganda website and therefore its contents cannot be sourced to a reliable third-party source which could reliably verify that the depiction is indeed what is claimed to be. Second it is original research to claim that this picture is from the massacre without any reliable published reports supporting such claim. We cannot rely on a now defunct propagande website as the source for the description of this unclear and grainy picture. In addition to these file problems, massacres and atrocities were commited by both sides during that troubled era. It would also be WP:UNDUE to include pictures of one side and not the other, even if, and that's a big if, the origin and contents of the removed picture were reliably verified. Δρ.Κ.  13:47, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Images from both sides should be dealt with caution. A number of the photographs presented for decades to the two communities as authentic were later found to have been set up in particular ways to be used for propaganda. For example, moving and placing dead bodies in particular stances or places that would arouse emotion later by viewing the photograph. Be careful of what you add.--Tco03displays (talk) 19:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Infobox

Let's remove the name and flag of the so-called RoC from the "belligerents" section. The "Commanders and Leaders" say the truth we all know already: The Turkish army won another war against the Greek army in 1974. The Greek Cypriots were not present in this equation. (Other than EOKA-B activity of crimes against humanity). --E4024 (talk) 20:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

You must be joking right? Where do you come up with this stuff? No, we're not going to do that. And let's not get into the whole "crimes against humanity" thing, because you won't like the result. Athenean (talk) 20:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Good source

I am adding a paper, to the Further Reading section, titled "Policy Watershed: Turkey's Cyprus Policy and the Interventions of 1974" by James H. Meyer published by the Princeton University Press. This paper, quite balanced at a quick first read, I believe could have been used -but not has been, as far as I could see- to give a more objective, thus neutral and balanced tone to this highly controversial idea. Even the choice of "interventions" instead of "intervention" or "invasion" seems to me to be part of an effort to be objective. Anyway, it is here for those who have not read it and for those who could like to have a second look. --E4024 (talk) 22:27, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Casualties in Infobox

From the Infobox: "Turkey: 800+ military (including Turkish Cypriots), 2200 wounded, unknown civilian dead Total 3500 casualties". What does this mean? First of all, without knowing the (unknown) part of the victims/casualties how do we reach a total number? Who are the "Turkish civilians that died in Cyprus" and why? What were they doing there? If we are referring (as we seem to avoid, who knows why) to the Turkish Cypriot civilians massacred by Greek Cypriot EOKA-B mobs then we should clarify it. With or without a "citation needed" tag, this section is biassed and has to be edited to reflect the correct numbers and the true nature of Turkish (i.e. Turkish Cypriot) civilian killings. On the other hand, although there has been a UN-oriented joint Missing Persons Committee that has worked to the extent the Greek Cypriot Administration let them to, we somehow avoid to refer to Turkish Cypriot civilians missing too. Are we trying to make an encyclopedia, really, or trying to show the Greeks (Cypriot or not) innocent as angels? I really want to know this; without changing the target somewhere else (Turkey) please explain to me why do we try to hide that the Greek Cypriots massacred Turks... --E4024 (talk) 21:28, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

  • Comment: I think that "why do we try to hide that the Greek Cypriots massacred Turks" is loaded question which is not a good way to resolve disputes trough RfC. I also think that "we perspective" should be avoided in discussions especially in disputes like this. I propose to close this RfC and to follow other steps of wp:dispute resolutions. My comment here is reply to RfC bot.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:13, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Combattans in Infobox

The Turkish operation was carried out against the Greek (i.e. from Greece) military forces on the island. As you may see all commanders on the "defending" side are from Greece. So I removed the flag of the so-called "Republic of Cyprus" for two reasons: 1. At the time of the operations there was a Greek military junta puppet Greek Cypriot administration on the island. 2. The only Greek Cypriot participation in so-called military operations could be the massacres of civilian Turkish Cypriots by the EOKA-B mobs. So I added the name of EOKA-B as a combattant instead of the RoC. --E4024 (talk) 11:18, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Even if the commanding officers were Greek (as Cyprus lacked trained officers), the National Guard itself was Cypriot. Also the Efedrikon Soma, with three batallions, was Cypriot. The Cypriot military forces may not have glorified themselves, but they took part in the fight against the invasion. --79.160.40.10 (talk) 12:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Seems like in Scandinavia you are all Greek in these issues that matter to Turks and Greeks. Why do I not see you editing to balance this and other Cyprus-related articles so that they may not be so biassed to the Greek standing? How can you accept that the Northern Cyprus article has no links to the "minimal" article about the massacres of Turks in this island while anything Turks may have done in history is labelled "genocide"!?! Is that not a reason to want to establish their own State (living in peace and security, without fear of EOKA-B mobs)? Make an effort to understand Cyprus, especially the Turks of the island... --E4024 (talk) 13:12, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
I fail to see how your comment (or my geographical position) has anything to do with the question discussed here. --79.160.40.10 (talk) 13:41, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Some people only do not understand what they do not want to. I remember this IP writing they were not from the region but still taking sides, right? Looks like the distance do not help "to see things from a distance". --E4024 (talk) 15:18, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Atrocities

I have noticed that someone had removed a great part of the section regarding atrocities committed against Turkish Cypriots. Could someone look in to it? Thank you. (Central Data Bank (talk) 19:11, 9 December 2012 (UTC))

Adana camp

The picture in the missings persons section is captioned "Greek Cypriot prisoners taken to Adana camps in Turkey". But at no point in the article or elsewhere in wikipedia can I find a reference to what an Adana camp is. Can someone either add this information in or clarift the caption? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.210.174.23 (talk) 11:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I found kind of a source but its in Greek1. Adana is a city in Turkey, many GCs were taken there as prisoners and later returned.--Tco03displays (talk) 20:01, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Apteva (talk) 03:29, 8 May 2013 (UTC)


(non-admin closure)

Please note, this topic has been discussed several times in the past - see Talk:Turkish invasion of Cyprus/Archive 1 and sections above for past discussions.

Turkish invasion of CyprusTurkish intervention in Cyprus – Extensive discussions few years ago but should be a no-brainer now: (1)Google hits, 5,110,000 results for Turkish intervention in Cyprus vs. 1,480,000 results for Turkish invasion of Cyprus; (2) Google scholar hits, 26,900 results for Turkish intervention in Cyprus vs. 18,500 results for Turkish invasion of Cyprus; (3) United nations uses "intervention" ; (4) CIA World Factbook uses "intervention" (background section); (5) US State Department uses "intervention" ; (6) European Union uses "intervention" . In Turkey, sometimes "Cyprus Peace Operation is used, but this is also POV. Intervention seems neutral. Cavann (talk) 19:20, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Again, as I detailed above, just for reference, here is our own definition of an invasion, as written in the lead to Invasion: "An invasion is a military offensive consisting of all, or large parts of the armed forces of one geopolitical entity aggressively entering territory controlled by another such entity, generally with the objective of either conquering, liberating or re-establishing control or authority over a territory, forcing the partition of a country, altering the established government or gaining concessions from said government, or a combination thereof." SalopianJames (talk) 20:24, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Oppose as Turkush nationalist POV-pushing. "Intervention" is a well-known euphemism used by Turkey to "justify" the invasion, make it respectable. A look through this talkpage and it's archives shows the intensity with which Turkish wikipedians have tried to change "invasion" with "intervention". Nothing new here. Regarding Cavann's search results, 1) Raw google searches are worthless as they contain mostly junk, 2)Major news organizations universally use "invasion", 2) regarding Google Scholar, I get roughly equal number of hits for "invasion" and "intervention" (23,700 compared to 26,900 ), but I note that most of the hits for "intervention" are in fact false positives. For example, of the first ten hits for "intervention", at least 5 are clear cut false positives: , while none are false positives for "invasion". While it does appear that the CIA factbook and the EU use "intervention", the US state department uses both "intervention" and "invasion" . Most importantly, major English language news organizations universally use "invasion": MSNBC , CNN , BBC , The Economist , NYT . Athenean (talk) 20:31, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Major English language news organizations/newspapers DO NOT universally use "invasion". Few examples: CNN, "intervention" ; CBS, "intervention" ; NY Times, "intervention" ; Economist, intervention . Cavann (talk) 20:59, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Your isolated examples are not convincing. Major news organizations still predominantly use "invasion" (if not quite universally). CNN uses "invasion" much more often (25 as opposed to 8 hits ), and I don't see CNN use "intervention" after 2004. NYT: 452 hits for "invasion" , 52 for "intervention" . CBS news also uses "invasion" , and The Economist uses "invasion" more frequently than intervention. Btw when you search, you should use quotes otherwise you will get a lot of false positives (especially with "intervention", which is why your results are erroneous). Athenean (talk) 05:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Strongly Oppose: Changing it would be misleading as it would imply something legal and the invasion has been condemned by every single related UN resolution. The fact that it has been declared illegal is the very reason to be an invasion rather than an intervention. Finally, A/RES/37/253 says:
"The General Assembly, Deploring the fact that part of the territory of the Republic of Cyprus is still occupied by foreign forces...." and
Resolution 550(1983) regards northern Cyprus as occupied territory.
Also,
"Turkish intervention in Cyprus"(with quotes): 61,600 hits on Google
"Turkish invasion of Cyprus"(with quotes):1,290,000 2A00:8C40:40:0:0:0:70E9:7B27 (talk) 20:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
How much of that is related to 1974? When I write "Turkish invasion of Cyprus", Venetians, I get 1,200,000 results. '"Turkish invasion of Cyprus", Venetians' refers to Ottoman–Venetian War (1570–73). Cavann (talk) 21:04, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Searching with Venetians includes books and articles with the History of Cyprus. The invasion does not refer to the Venetians. That is how google search works. When quoted, the exact phrase is searched. When not, it is as many words that match as possible. For instance one of the results searching with venetians is:
The Turkish invasion of Cyprus (Turkish: Operation Peace), launched ... it has :known - Persians, Romans, Venetians, Ottomans and the British. 2A00:8C40:40:0:0:0:70E9:7B27 (talk) 21:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
The point is your exact quote number isn't reliable either. Cavann (talk) 21:37, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Well, more reliable than yours is. — Lfdder (talk) 21:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose. As far as I know, this is still generally referred to as an invasion. WP:COMMONNAME. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose: The proposed term is just an extreme Turkish pov, agree also per above arguments.Alexikoua (talk) 15:55, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose: Comparing "Turkish Invasion of Cyprus" and "Turkish Intervention in Cyprus" in Google Books shows a clear preference for the former phrase. The latter phrase only gets six pages of results. (Oddly, this lists as 42 results on page 6, but 6,000 results on page 1. Don't ask me to explain the ways of Google, but there's clearly only a few pages of results here.) In addition, "intervention" appears mainly in primary sources like government documents and UN statements, most notably a letter from US President Lyndon B. Johnson that's quoted over and over again. It appears to me that the preference in English-language books is "Turkish Invasion", so I suggest the article stay put per WP:COMMONNAME.
As a side note, it doesn't look like this will make a difference in the !voting, but be aware that the move proposer has placed a clearly non-neutral request for intervention at WT:CSB in violation of WP:CANVASS, accusing Greek editors of teaming up here. -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you Khazar2 for your fair comments that are in the best tradition of Misplaced Pages. Take care. Δρ.Κ.  02:20, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

In July 1974 the Greek Cypriot National Guard, whose officers were mainland Greeks, attempted a coup, planned by the ruling military junta in Athens, to achieve enosis. Makarios fled to Malta and then to London, and Turkey invaded Cyprus and proclaimed a separate state for Turkish Cypriots in the north. Makarios, vowing to resist partition of the island, returned to Cyprus in December, after the fall of the mainland Greek military junta.

Google Books encyclopaedias have spoken. Encyclopedia Britannica has also spoken. Clearly so. Δρ.Κ.  02:26, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Add a couple of articles from The New York Times since I also found them: For Cyprus, a Sudden Need to Play Nice With Turkey The two halves of the island have been split between the mainly Turkish-speaking north, occupied by Turkey since an invasion in 1974, and the internationally recognized, mainly Greek-speaking Republic of Cyprus in the south.

European Union’s Leverage Over Cyprus Is Ephemeral Turkey invaded northern Cyprus in 1974 in response to a Greek-backed coup in Nicosia by Greek Cypriot hardliners seeking union with Athens. Δρ.Κ.  02:48, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Google Scholar: "turkish invasion" cyprus 3470 results. "turkish intervention" cyprus 752 results. Google Scholar also sprach. Δρ.Κ.  04:12, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

  • Oppose: Makes no sense to change it to intervention because the invasion has been declared illegal. The sentence "should be a no-brainer now" reveals either lack of history knowledge or ignorance in my opinion 108.60.134.206 (talk) 11:07, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose: Per sources listed above (Brittanica, the U.N., the European Union and etc.). Turkey invaded Cyprus in defiance of international law. In addition to the sources listed above, BBC, Aljazeera and etc. have also called it an invasion. I also firmly believe that the term intervention does not necessarily and accurately mean a military campaign (i.e. diplomatic intervention). The term intervention in itself is vague and does not substantiate a military campaign, let alone an illegal one. Proudbolsahye (talk) 21:25, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
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The Opinions Section Is Misleading

The section is separated into Turkish Cypriot Opinion and Greek Cypriot Opinion. This is misleading, because different individuals, political parties and organizations within the two communities hold contrasting opinions in relation to the Cyprus problem and the Turkish Invasion. By ascribing these terms to the opinions, immediately you inform the reader that the opinion expressed is the article is the opinion of the whole of the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriots. In fact, the division of the opinion into ethnic categories is itself problematic. There are groups in the two communities that have very close, even identical opinions. For example, leftist groups would see it as an imperialist invasion. The whole section needs restructure, a clear distinction between community and state (Greek Cypriots and the Republic of Cyprus for example), a clear distinction of what each major political party in each community holds as opinion, what the government of Turkey holds as an opinion etc. At the moment the article provides a false dishonomy in the matter of opinion as purely a matter of ethnicity.--Tco03displays (talk) 15:28, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

I fully agree with your well-made comments. Please go ahead and restructure the section if you have the time. Thank you. Δρ.Κ.  17:52, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
For personal reasons I don't have time right now. It is a complex subject and it needs its share of research. I'll come back in the near future to make some edits on it with proper referencing.--Tco03displays (talk) 18:36, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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Turkish invasion of Cyprus1974 Cyprus war
Rationale for the proposed page name change:
1. Fair Approach, Neutrality, Objectivity:
This way of entitling the article ("1974 Cyprus war") avoids any qualifying of the war and hence results almost no conflict. Definitely, this way of titleing the article is far more fair approach towards the "invasion/interference" POVs. When one use "invasion" (or equally the "interference") to depict the war in 1974 and hence thereby the entitling in Misplaced Pages, there are millions of Wikipedians on both sides of the conflict who oppose this way of qualifying the war (the qualifying is rejected by one of the sides in each cases). On the other hand, the sides accepts the existing of the "war".

2. Almost closed to objections:
Nobody can deny anything about each of the words in "1974 Cyprus war": It happened in 1974 and the operation finished in 1974; It was in Cyprus island; It was war. Even the Turkish Cypriots entitling it as "peace operation" accept that it was war. "peace operation" is rather to qualify the nature of the war, according to them, I think.

3. Google Search:
"1974 Cyprus War" (without quotes): 8,890,000 results
https://www.google.com.tr/?gws_rd=cr&ei=3TH2UuO_BKOX4wT08YHAAw#q=1974+Cyprus+War and
"1974 Cyprus War" (with quotes): 78,500 results
https://www.google.com.tr/?gws_rd=cr&ei=3TH2UuO_BKOX4wT08YHAAw#q=%221974+Cyprus+War%22
Academia: Google Scholar Searchs:
"1974 Cyprus War" (without quotes): 39,700 results
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=1974+Cyprus+war&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5
"1974 Cyprus War" (with quotes): 19 results.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%221974+Cyprus+war%22&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5

4. Robust proofs of the parties in discussion:
I am giving the following not for supporting the "intervention" side, but to support each side ("invasion"ers, "intervention"ers) has robust proofs to some extent. I will not give the robust proofs of "invasion"ers since they are known to the many participants of the discussion as well. I added the followings especially for those who do not know the followings.

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE): (29.07.1974, Res. 573) "Turkish military intervention was the exercise of a right emanating from an international Treaty and the fulfilment of a legal and moral obligation."
Greece's Athens Court of Appeals (21.03.1979): "The Turkish military intervention in Cyprus, which was carried out in accordance with the Zurich and London Accords, was legal".

5. The alternatives may not be that much satisfactory:
Some people may suggest other alternatives ("Cyprus war in 1974" or "Cyprus war of 1974"), but "1974 Cyprus war" (as in "2013-14 Euroleague") suits better in Misplaced Pages practice.

6. Counter arguements of the defenders of "Turkish invasion of Cyprus":
I know there are people who opposes the above proposal. It would be fair and ethical to bring here based on what they objected the above proposal (I added my replies as well):

Δρ.Κ.: It is the WP:COMMONNAME of the invasion. That's what's called by the majority of the reliable sources.

Alexyflemming: Non-neutral but common names https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME#Non-neutral_but_common_names

Notable circumstances under which Misplaced Pages often avoids a common name for lacking neutrality include the following:
1. Trendy slogans and monikers that seem unlikely to be remembered or connected with a particular issue years later
2. Colloquialisms where far more encyclopedic alternatives are obvious

T*U: Somehow you forgot to mention the main clause: In such cases, the prevalence of the name ... generally overrides concern that Misplaced Pages might appear as endorsing one side of an issue. The prevalence of the name "Turkish invasion of Cyprus" for what happened in 1974 is so obvious in English language literature that it is the only possible choice for the title.

Alexyflemming: As you state: "...generally overries...", not "...always overrides..."!. Also, English language literature well metions the events of that period as "the war in 1974" as well. Hence, "Turkish invasion of Cyprus" is not the only possible choice for the title. Alexyflemming (talk) 15:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
The NGram shows very fast sharp decline of the usage "Turkish invasion of Cyprus", especially after the 1979 decision of Greek highest court. Also, the general tendency of academic world to use "Turkish invasion of Cyprus" is declining though the visibility of Cyprus issue has peaked for the last decade (2004 Annan Referendum etc.).
As for WP:COMMONNAME (Use commonly recognizable names), "Cyprus war" is easier both to use, remember and cite if compared with "Turkish invasion of Cyprus". Even there are thousands of articles in the NGram that used "Turkish invasion of Cyprus", but at the same time used "the Cyprus war" to refer the event of 1974.
Non-neutral but common names https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME#Non-neutral_but_common_names
Notable circumstances under which Misplaced Pages often avoids a common name for lacking neutrality include the following:
1. Trendy slogans and monikers that seem unlikely to be remembered or connected with a particular issue years later
2. Colloquialisms where far more encyclopedic alternatives are obvious
Alexyflemming (talk) 20:25, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
"Invasion" is neither a Trendy slogan or a Colloquialism. It is the WP:COMMONNAME which accurately depicts the wide usage of the phrase "Turkish invasion" in the English language and does not attempt to hide the name of the invader by using almost non-extant terms like "1974 Cyprus War" whose frequency in the English language is almost nil. Δρ.Κ.  05:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose. Per my arguments in the closed move request from May 2013 above. This is the common name used in the reliable sources and encyclopedias. Δρ.Κ.  16:30, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
When deemed both intervention/invasion includes some degree of bias and POVs, "May 2013 move request" ("Turkish invasion of Cyprus" → "Turkish intervention in Cyprus") is in essence a change request from a biased approach to another one; from less biased to more biased or vice versa depending on which side of the parties someone is located. On the other hand, ("Turkish invasion of Cyprus" → "1974 Cyprus war") name change suggestion is almost free from any bias and POVs. Hence, the natures and characters of the name changes ("Turkish invasion of Cyprus" → "Turkish intervention in Cyprus") and ("Turkish invasion of Cyprus" → "1974 Cyprus war") is completely different. Furthermore, the name change ("Turkish invasion of Cyprus" → "1974 Cyprus war") will decrease and lessen total composite aggragate degree of bias and POVs (of both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots) in Misplaced Pages.Alexyflemming (talk) 22:38, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Our task here is to neutrally represent what is said in leading, reliable sources. Our task isn't to represent the invasion/intervention/war/what-have-you 'neutrally' -- if such a thing is possible. 'Cyprus war' is scarcely used in literature, and so renaming the article to that would not be neutral. — Lfdder (talk) 22:57, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
I agree. The term "1974 Cyprus War" is almost non-existent. In addition it is also misleading because it hides the name of the principal initiator of that war, which is Turkey, and the nature of the war which was an invasion. Such transparent attempt to hide these facts is non-neutral POV. Δρ.Κ.  05:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Copy from my comments the previous move discussion in May 2013:

Per all the oppose comments above and per WP:COMMONNAME. And per: "turkish invasion" cyprus encyclopedia 1,310 results. "turkish intervention" cyprus encyclopedia 56 results.

Also per Britannica:

In July 1974 the Greek Cypriot National Guard, whose officers were mainland Greeks, attempted a coup, planned by the ruling military junta in Athens, to achieve enosis. Makarios fled to Malta and then to London, and Turkey invaded Cyprus and proclaimed a separate state for Turkish Cypriots in the north. Makarios, vowing to resist partition of the island, returned to Cyprus in December, after the fall of the mainland Greek military junta.

Google Books encyclopaedias have spoken. Encyclopedia Britannica has also spoken. Clearly so.

Add a couple of articles from The New York Times since I also found them: For Cyprus, a Sudden Need to Play Nice With Turkey The two halves of the island have been split between the mainly Turkish-speaking north, occupied by Turkey since an invasion in 1974, and the internationally recognized, mainly Greek-speaking Republic of Cyprus in the south.

European Union’s Leverage Over Cyprus Is Ephemeral Turkey invaded northern Cyprus in 1974 in response to a Greek-backed coup in Nicosia by Greek Cypriot hardliners seeking union with Athens.

Google Scholar: "turkish invasion" cyprus 3470 results. "turkish intervention" cyprus 752 results. Google Scholar also sprach. Δρ.Κ.  00:48, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

"1974 Cyprus War" Google Scholar 19 results: In other words, non-existent terminology. Δρ.Κ.  00:51, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

"1974 Cyprus War" 62 results. Almost non-existent in Google books. Δρ.Κ.  00:56, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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