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::::::::I'm going to ignore the unsigned and vandalistic message above and move on to more pressing matters: I've just been threatened with being blocked from making edits on the grounds that my efforts to change the consensus on this page don't align with user STATicVapor's, after bringing in another source to back up my claims. () This hypocrisy and blatant disregard for the facts in favor of this individual's synthesized narrative are unquestionable. You cannot deny the facts to buoy your own biased opinion. The consensus has been reached and it doesn't match your own perception and you're unhappy about that; get over it. Stop making baseless threats (you cannot block someone on the grounds of a conflict of interest, so you can just stop throwing that out there. This is not an example of disruptive editing), act like a professional, and adhere to the sources. Update: This user is also now going back and attempting to revert multiple of my other edits on projects unrelated to this page. ] 16 February 2014 (UTC) | ::::::::I'm going to ignore the unsigned and vandalistic message above and move on to more pressing matters: I've just been threatened with being blocked from making edits on the grounds that my efforts to change the consensus on this page don't align with user STATicVapor's, after bringing in another source to back up my claims. () This hypocrisy and blatant disregard for the facts in favor of this individual's synthesized narrative are unquestionable. You cannot deny the facts to buoy your own biased opinion. The consensus has been reached and it doesn't match your own perception and you're unhappy about that; get over it. Stop making baseless threats (you cannot block someone on the grounds of a conflict of interest, so you can just stop throwing that out there. This is not an example of disruptive editing), act like a professional, and adhere to the sources. Update: This user is also now going back and attempting to revert multiple of my other edits on projects unrelated to this page. ] 16 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
::::::::: Five different editors disagreed with you, yet you continued to disruptively add it. Ignoring clear consensus to add the same contested content, is a blockable offense. Five different users are not an individual, so I do not even know how to respond to your complete lack of sense and literacy. Actually, if you would have added it again, and you were reported a block would have clearly came. You have been edit warring on a lot of pages recently, and immediately removing the warnings from your talk page does not make you look innocent at all. Also about your last sentence, go ahead and keep making up stuff. <font color="#BA181F">''']</font> <font color="#BA181F"><small>]</small></font>''' 01:37, 17 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Gold certificate in Spain
The gold certification is a FRAUDE. It hasn't been sold 20.000 copies but less than 8.000. It's been filtered the real Spain sales http://www.abc.es/cultura/musica/20131228/abci-fraude-industria-discografica-espaola-201312272217.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.17.178.240 (talk) 18:18, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- I don't really agree that it's "fraud", because it's pretty standard practise for most major record labels. They tend to over-ship albums in certain territories. You can even see several instances of that with ARTPOP - it was certified platinum in Canada , when it had sold just 25,000 copies; it was certified platinum in Japan , when it had sold just over 110,000 copies (Gold). Anyway, I'll include the sales figure in the certifications field - because the source seems notable enough. Homeostasis07 (talk) 23:55, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
#3 in South Korea
http://gaonchart.co.kr/digital_chart/album.php This can be added! Please! JLeemans1 (talk) 10:04, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
#1 in Japan
No.1 in Japan, selling over 58.000 copies in its first week.
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20131111-00000326-oric-musi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.184.90 (talk) 02:14, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, this has been added now. —Indian:BIO · 07:40, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
White Shadow interview
- Gaga Producer: She Was a 'Glittery Mermaid' on 'ARTPOP' Sessions —Indian:BIO · 04:42, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
More links for future
- http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/5785633/the-breakup-behind-lady-gagas-split-with-manager-troy-carter
- http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/legal-and-management/5785549/lady-gaga-troy-carter-split-what-happened-the-future
- http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1717327/lady-gaga-artpop-pop-up-shop.jhtml
- http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1717293/lady-gaga-artpop-app.jhtml
- http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/branding/5785849/how-lady-gaga-pulled-off-the-impossible-a-multimillion-dollar
- http://ibnlive.in.com/news/lady-gaga-continues-wacky-dressing-this-time-it-is-a-flying-dress/433644-45-75.html
- http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/lady-gaga-reveals-flying-dress-at-album-launch-party-113111200252_1.html
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/lady-gagas-artpop-doesnt-live-up-to-its-avant-garde-ambitions/2013/11/11/f7916228-4ae9-11e3-ac54-aa84301ced81_story.html
- http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2013/11/11/lady-gagas-artpop-pop-up-store-art-or-commerce/
- http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1717123/lady-gaga-artpop-reviews.jhtml
- http://www.voanews.com/content/new-lady-gaga-album-drops/1787738.html
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/review-lady-gagas-artpop-fails-as-art-and-pop/2013/11/11/246fee1a-4b01-11e3-bf60-c1ca136ae14a_story.html
- http://www.latimes.com/la-lady-gaga-20131111,0,964020.storylink
- http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/lady-gaga-unveils-flying-dress-article-1.1512723
- http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-126109-Lady-Gaga-launches-Artpop-at-VIP-New-York-party
- http://entertainment.time.com/2013/11/11/lady-gagas-new-artpop-doesnt-always-live-up-to-title/?iid=ent-main-lead
- http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/lady-gaga-artpop-pop-gallery-complete-masterpiece-article-1.1513182
- http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1717245/lady-gaga-fan-art-artpop.jhtml
- http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1717207/lady-gaga-artrave-nude-statue.jhtml
- http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/11/11/lady-gaga-artpop-review-revue/
- http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/11/hands-on-with-lady-gagas-artpop-album-app
- http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lady-gaga-shows-off-flying-dress-at-artrave-20131111
- http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/entertainment/12-Nov-2013/lady-gaga-airborne-at-artpop-launch
- http://www.eonline.com/news/479671/lady-gaga-says-she-sounds-like-an-irritated-cow-after-artrave-concert-shares-funny-gif
- http://www.nj.com/entertainment/music/index.ssf/2013/11/artpop_lady_gagas_latest_is_scattered_frantic_and_maybe_frightened_too.html
- http://www.drownedinsound.com/releases/17962/reviews/4147121?ticker
- http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/11/11/lady-gaga-unveils-volantis-flying-dress/
- http://www.lohud.com/viewart/20131111/ENTERTAINMENT/311110011/Lady-Gaga-unveils-flying-dress-NYC-album-fete
- http://style.mtv.com/2013/11/11/lady-gaga-artrave-outfits/
- http://www.forbes.com/sites/jackiehuba/2013/11/10/how-lady-gaga-co-markets-new-album-artpop-with-diehard-fans/
- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/11/artpop-review-lady-gaga-s-album-wants-to-be-everything-but-is-nothing-at-all.html
- http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20754386,00.html
- http://music-mix.ew.com/2013/11/11/lady-gaga-flying-dress-artrave/
- http://www.complex.com/music/2013/11/lady-gaga-artrave-review
- http://www.thedaonline.com/arts_and_entertainment/music/article_05010d66-4b6a-11e3-a1d5-001a4bcf6878.html
- http://nyunews.com/2013/11/12/artpop/
- http://www.contactmusic.com/article/lady-gaga-unveils-flying-dress-artpop_3947737
- http://www.edmontonjournal.com/entertainment/Album+review+Lady+Gaga+Artpop+sloppy+awkward+listen/9151553/story.html
- http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/11/lady-gaga-flying-dress
- http://www.salon.com/2013/11/11/post_lady_gaga_is_warholism_dead/
- http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/anyone-else-bummed-out-by-lady-gagas-em-artpop-em/281335/
- http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/11/lady-gagas-fantastic-fantabulous-flying-dress/71457/
- http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/11/lady-gaga-takes-flight/
- http://www.idolator.com/7492831/lady-gagas-artpop-review-revue
- http://ibnlive.in.com/news/lady-gaga-depressed-after-making-new-album-artpop/433262-45-75.html
- http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/5785829/lady-gagas-volantis-7-things-she-said-about-her-flying-machine
- http://www.spin.com/articles/lady-gaga-artrave-artpop-review/
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/11/lady-gaga-usa-today-logo_n_4255153.html
- http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/132229/Her-Best-So-Far-Lady-Gaga-Fans-Brush-Aside-ARTPOP-App-Technical-Difficulties-To-Praise-Album
- http://www.ndsmcobserver.com/scene/lady-gaga-s-artpop-just-for-fun-1.3116781
- http://www.complex.com/art-design/2013/11/lady-gaga-artpop-gallery
- http://www.chron.com/entertainment/music/article/ARTPOP-suffers-from-lack-of-inspiration-4975321.php
- http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/5785554/glee-recap-katy-gaga-episode-spells-a-return-to-fun
- http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/5778207/lady-gaga-streams-artpop-on-itunes-radio
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maria-gabriela-brito/lady-gaga-and-jeff-koons-_b_4261154.html
- http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1717404/lady-gaga-artpop-collaborators.jhtml
- http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/nov/15/lady-gaga-no1-artpop-top-charts-sales-down
- http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/132-lady-gagas-artrave/
- http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1717843/lady-gaga-artpop-flop.jhtml
...Phew. —Indian:BIO · 09:08, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
UK Charts
Lady Gaga is heading for her third UK No 1 album source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patry B. (talk • contribs) 07:09, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Not officially confirmed. —Indian:BIO · 07:14, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a531426/lady-gagas-artpop-predicted-to-sell-75-percent-less-than-born-this-way.html and http://www.lacapital.com.ar/escenario/Artpop-el-album-de-Lady-Gaga-que-llego-rodeado-de-obstaculos--20131114-0024.html from La Capital. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.6.165.231 (talk) 14:00, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Critical Reception
The source that has been cited for this section is Metacritic, which states that the album has received "generally favorable reviews". The argument has been made that there are more mixed than positive reviews listed on the site, but from what I can see from other album pages (Prism (Katy Perry album), etc.) who have received more mixed reviews than positive on Metacritic actually go by the overall weighted average in their listed critical consensus. "Generally positive reviews" is listed on the Katy Perry page and this standard should be reflected here as they are both listed as receiving "generally favorable reviews" on Metacritic. The standard is the weighted score, not the sheer number of articles. Reece Leonard 10:42 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS arguments do not work and will not get you anywhere. See the Metacritic link, the album received twice as many mixed reviews then positive, and is only about one mixed review away from dipping to 59, which it would then change their summary to generally "mixed". You should be happy that we do not just label it as just mixed, as I am thinking that is what we should do. I mean it is not hard to find other multiple reliable sources saying it received mixed, negative, mixed, mixed, and mixed reviews. This looks like a pretty open and shut case to me, unless you are not editing with a neutral point of view, and just want it to be labeled with only having positive reviews, which is frankly factually incorrect. @Smarty9108:, @Sven Manguard: any additional comments? STATic message me! 06:54, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Um why are you mentioning me? I was just making sure they didn't change the reception to Positive, check your accusations at the door sir, and see this is things I GET. Smarty9108 talk 7:03, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Presumably, he is mentioning you because you are already involved in the dispute. If you also became involved by reverting a change while using Huggle (which is how I wound up involved in this), then I fail to see why you're getting angry, or indeed where you see an accusation at all. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:09, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- You added the hidden note, so I assumed you had an opinion on the situation, all my comments were refering to the OP, so I do not understand where all the hostility is coming from. STATic message me! 07:20, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- We gotta problem?, Okay, listen sorry for my cheap behavior or whatever, bye. User:Smarty9108 (talk) 7:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- I don't view 60% as being generally positive. Metacritic splits ratings into three numerical groups for ease of color coding, but we don't have to follow those breaks ourselves. In the context of music, I equate 60% to something around three stars out of five, which is "decent, but not great" territory. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:09, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- not angry, it was more like "What did I do? :worried:", but I agree the album should be mixed, if you view the critics reviews and rating listed in the article of course. User:Smarty9108 (talk) 7:17, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Um why are you mentioning me? I was just making sure they didn't change the reception to Positive, check your accusations at the door sir, and see this is things I GET. Smarty9108 talk 7:03, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- But on this website we DO follow Metacritic's rating system, which in this case lists the album as receiving generally positive reviews. "You should be happy that we do not just label it as just mixed" - What on earth are you talking about? Your personal opinions have no place here. This is wikipedia, where we adhere to the sources listed, which, in this case, lists the album as having received generally positive reviews. Mentioning other articles that make it obvious that we adhere to Metacritic's weighted score for the sake of uniformity is relevant and for you to claim otherwise based purely on your personal opinions of what YOU think the album should be listed as reminds me of other issues you've caused in the past when it comes to Gaga articles, namely when multiple other users had to engage in a lengthy debate with you over whether or not the Venus (Lady Gaga song) article was to be listed as a single/promotional single, in which you likewise claimed that your personal opinion was superior to sourced fact. This is unprofessional and incorrect. The weighted score is based on the fact that some publications are larger and get more of a voice when it comes to reviews, something that we adhere to on wikipedia. The consensus is "generally favorable reviews" and this should be reflected here, end of story. If you'd like me to link you to the multiple other album pages where this is proven to be the standard, I will do so. Reece Leonard 12:49 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- Where is this made up guideline that says to always follow Metacritic's color coding? There is none. I am implying that you are letting your personal opinion or the artist or album get in the way, I have no opinion of Gaga or her music, I am just making sure facts and common sense are followed in the article. Bringing up other articles and other situations do not change the discussion one bit, so you are kind of wasting your time arguing that. We do not blindly follow Metacritic's sometime inaccurate summary, I just provided more multiple reliable sources that say the album only received mixed reviews, nothing about being positive. Unless you can find more reliable sources saying the album received overwhelmingly positive reviews, I suggest we only label it with receiving mixed reviews. Metacritic clearly says that it received twice as much mixed reviews then positive reviews. STATic message me! 19:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- We should not base a generalisation based solely on a single website. Commonsence (and the ability to read) shows that "mixed to positive" is correct. Yes, at the extremes there has been some calling it the end of her career but none calling it the best thing since sliced bread. Within the usual review sites - newspapers, music magazines etc. - even those who are praising the album or awarding a high star rating have also offered very harsh critique of the album and artist. The telegraph for example gave 4/5 stars but called the album unoriginal and criticized yet another fame based album. Digital spy also gave 4/5 but was even harsher calling the songs "half-finished plagues". When even the positive critics are that harsh.... with friends like that who needs enemies! Frankly "mixed to positive" could be on the polite side. But to declare it universally positive is just deluded. Writing it on wikipedia isn't going to make it true... --Rushton2010 (talk) 00:11, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
- Here are a list of pages that adhere to the style of generalization (It's spelled with a z, by the way. Don't make catty remarks about my reading comprehension and then proceed to misspell words and phrase sentences in a nonsensical manner like "could be polite side". What would be "delusional" would be your operating under the opinion that your synthesized narrative is more relevant here than a site that presents a weighted average of all major publications and assigns a consensus based on actual fact, not pure conjecture).
- These are just a few of Gaga's pop contemporaries who's pages adhere to the style I've proposed we implement here. All have received a large number of mixed reviews on Metacritic but have "generally positive" listed as the consensus because that IS the consensus of the collective. This isn't some trivial website; it's the largest, most credible and successful site that compounds all major reviews from credible sources into a collective consensus, a site that is always listed on every major album page on wikipedia. Its consensus should be the basis of that that is listed here. The page should say "generally positive reviews" because it HAS received generally positive reviews; mixed reviews almost always compare her favorably to her contemporaries in terms of substance and innovation and the weighted score based on the idea that certain publications' opinions are more valid than others, contests to that. Your personal view of the critical trajectory is irrelevant. The consensus has been reached and refusing to acknowledge it is counterintuitive to the accuracy of this page.
- No one is advocating for a "universally positive" label. It should read "generally positive", possibly with a disclaimer if you absolutely have to address the fact that there are detractors; "The album received generally positive reviews but saw less praise than Gaga's previous work" would work to adhere to the summation of the reviewing collective and address your complaints about the larger amount of mixed reviews for this album than her previous albums. A simple "mixed" listing would be nonsensical seeing as how the consensus is listed as "generally favorable". Reece Leonard 01:40 02 December 2013 (UTC)
"Generally positive" LOL. If we're using Metacritic as the key source, it should state it received "mostly mixed reviews", as on Metacritic it has 20 mixed and only 9 positive.
Also "Generalisation" is correct with a S OR a Z. Z is more commonly used in the US, but both are in the dictionary.... Perhaps when you crack open the dictionary, you also look up "consensus" ;-)
- I'm going to ignore the unsigned and vandalistic message above and move on to more pressing matters: I've just been threatened with being blocked from making edits on the grounds that my efforts to change the consensus on this page don't align with user STATicVapor's, after bringing in another source to back up my claims. (x) This hypocrisy and blatant disregard for the facts in favor of this individual's synthesized narrative are unquestionable. You cannot deny the facts to buoy your own biased opinion. The consensus has been reached and it doesn't match your own perception and you're unhappy about that; get over it. Stop making baseless threats (you cannot block someone on the grounds of a conflict of interest, so you can just stop throwing that out there. This is not an example of disruptive editing), act like a professional, and adhere to the sources. Update: This user is also now going back and attempting to revert multiple of my other edits on projects unrelated to this page. Reece Leonard 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Five different editors disagreed with you, yet you continued to disruptively add it. Ignoring clear consensus to add the same contested content, is a blockable offense. Five different users are not an individual, so I do not even know how to respond to your complete lack of sense and literacy. Actually, if you would have added it again, and you were reported a block would have clearly came. You have been edit warring on a lot of pages recently, and immediately removing the warnings from your talk page does not make you look innocent at all. Also about your last sentence, go ahead and keep making up stuff. STATic message me! 01:37, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- I'm going to ignore the unsigned and vandalistic message above and move on to more pressing matters: I've just been threatened with being blocked from making edits on the grounds that my efforts to change the consensus on this page don't align with user STATicVapor's, after bringing in another source to back up my claims. (x) This hypocrisy and blatant disregard for the facts in favor of this individual's synthesized narrative are unquestionable. You cannot deny the facts to buoy your own biased opinion. The consensus has been reached and it doesn't match your own perception and you're unhappy about that; get over it. Stop making baseless threats (you cannot block someone on the grounds of a conflict of interest, so you can just stop throwing that out there. This is not an example of disruptive editing), act like a professional, and adhere to the sources. Update: This user is also now going back and attempting to revert multiple of my other edits on projects unrelated to this page. Reece Leonard 16 February 2014 (UTC)
#1 in Taiwan
http://www.g-music.com.tw/GMusicBillboard2.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.184.90 (talk) 11:42, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Charts
Greece: http://www.ifpi.gr/charts_en.html JLeemans1 (talk) 20:01, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
ARTPOP Certified Gold in Argentina
Well, I added the Argentinian Gold Certification for ARTPOP but someone just revert it for no reasons, so someone add it please: SOURCES: Universal Music - Lady Gaga's discography/distributor on its official web page (http://www.universalmusic-conosur.com/), Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152021151427208&set=a.446186627207.248357.95746867207&type=1) and Twitter (https://twitter.com/UMArgentina/status/406077012365680640) TN - TV Channel news, part of Clarin (the best-selling newspaper in the country) http://tn.com.ar/musica/hoy/lady-gaga-con-todo-ya-es-un-exito-artpop-en-la-argentina_423978 TKM Magazine - One of the best-selling teens magazine http://www.mundotkm.com/hot-news-162024-artpop-es-disco-de-oro-en-argentina — Preceding unsigned comment added by HC 5555 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
- I didn't revert it for no reason, I reverted it because you haven't provided a source from the certification agency.—Kww(talk) 23:42, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
ARTPOP reach #6 position in Greece
Review that..!!! http://www.cyta.gr/el/IFPI — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlitosFabri (talk • contribs) 23:20, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Aura is the next single
http://artpopnews.wikispaces.com/home
This link shows an interview with Gaga confirming Aura as the next single, blah blah blah, and all that stuff! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TDBiggestFan (talk • contribs) 22:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- This does not seem like a reliable source to me. --Another Believer (Talk) 22:51, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Well, that's not up for you to decide! It's right there! TDBiggestFan (talk) 00:32, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- What's right there is that the interview is behind a registration-wall. That doesn't inherently make it unreliable, but the hosting on wikispaces does. I agree with Another Believer that the source is not reliable. —C.Fred (talk) 01:30, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- Well, that's not up for you to decide! It's right there! TDBiggestFan (talk) 00:32, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Gaga Gold in Argentina.
Here is the link http://tn.com.ar/musica/hoy/lady-gaga-con-todo-ya-es-un-exito-artpop-en-la-argentina_423978
TN is one of the most important news channel in Argentina. (Is in spanish) Gold: 20000 Units.
Plus. She's 8 in the monthly charts of CAPIF Argentina. You can see it here:
http://www.capif.org.ar/rankings.aspx
THank YOu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.123.187.249 (talk) 13:37, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
missing producer
madeon is not listed as producer on:
"Mary Jane Holland" and "Gypsy"
as well as co-producer on "Venus" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.1.179.81 (talk) 11:27, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Genre
Please don't change the genre to opinions. The current citation in the infobox has a quote to support the genre. We can't call genres what we want as genre is subjective. Per WP:OR, WP:RS, and WP:SUBJECTIVE, don't change this unless you have sources discussing what the album as a whole sounds like. Not just individual songs. Andrzejbanas (talk) 06:16, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- There are several things wrong in what you have posted. All these talks about OR and RS, you have I believe, understood and abided by the Billboard link so vehemently that you have missed out on important points.
- Firstly, the link does not say that the album is pop, it talks about how the release of an album is thought off as an entity, rather than a single product. She's a pop artist, who releases pop album, ergo the misconception of genre. See how the line is open to interpretation?
- Secondly, it clearly talks about synthpop being an overall genre with the line .." the sexuality and synth-pop pleasures of "ARTPOP" fully bloom". Now this is a much more direct line that talks about the over all genre, rather than some vague line above. Remember, no review generally writes, "Album X is in the genre A,B,C". You can call it ass false interpretation all you want, however, with the "Pop" genre added, you just did that as well.
- Lastly, EDM is said as an overall sound of the album in more than one source, and Idolator is a reliable source, whether some users like it or not. Prove it its unreliable, else desist.
- Another thing I found out, there are other genres also as pointed out by Toronto Sun, ...It flits between genres - the EDM wubba-wubba of Aura, the space-sex disco of Venus, the handclap R&B of Manicure, the hip-hop menace of Jewels n' Drugs, the industrial grind of Swine, the Broadway balladry of Dope, the dance-rock of Mary Jane Holland, the new wave of Applause, even a dash of Born This Way's heartland rock in Gypsy. All of them point me to AllMsic, which calls the overall genre as Pop-rock. I don't know how reliable we consider AllMusic for over all genre though. —Indian:BIO · 16:55, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- True, it goes about different genres per song, but the infobox is for the genre of the album, not individual songs. So just naming random genres that represent individual songs doesn't help the reader. I suggest either leaving it as vague (you'd find Lady Gaga in a pop music section of a store). Either that or leave the infobox empty and explain it in prose. If it were up to me, I'd remove the genre section away from the infobox everywhere. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:50, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hello @Andrzejbanas:, thanks for your reply. I'm afraid you might have misunderstood me. The source, which you are using for the "pop" genre, I had explained that it is not calling the album as being in the "pop" genre. It is instead describing the release process and the roar surrounding all pop releases. Hence, using that source to call the album pop is not correct IMO. However, the one below, where the synthpop is mentioned, if you read carefully, it is not describing the song "Sexxx Dreams". Instead it is saying that it is in the song where the synthpop ambitions of the album comes full circle, meaning it is at its strongest there. So we have to discuss that and other reliable sources directly saying it as genre. —Indian:BIO · 03:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough about the pop comment, but having "synth pop" ambitions and apparently only having them accomplished one one song isn't strong either. So I don't think it's strong enough there either. Personally, I think the article itself gives enough description of each song to give the user an idea of what sound the album has. We've done this before with some other Katy Perry article. What do you think about that? Also, thanks for actually going to the talk page and not making this into a mass edit war. Much appreciated! :)Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:49, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- I don't understand why this issue hasn't been resolved; the article has no genre listed. This is a problem. In the production section, the album is described as adhering to an electronic landscape and would suggest that the genre would fit into the electronic and pop categories. If nothing else, SOME genre should be decided on as a placeholder until a consensus can be reached. An album page cannot lack a genre.Reece Leonard (talk) 18:28, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Fair enough about the pop comment, but having "synth pop" ambitions and apparently only having them accomplished one one song isn't strong either. So I don't think it's strong enough there either. Personally, I think the article itself gives enough description of each song to give the user an idea of what sound the album has. We've done this before with some other Katy Perry article. What do you think about that? Also, thanks for actually going to the talk page and not making this into a mass edit war. Much appreciated! :)Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:49, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hello @Andrzejbanas:, thanks for your reply. I'm afraid you might have misunderstood me. The source, which you are using for the "pop" genre, I had explained that it is not calling the album as being in the "pop" genre. It is instead describing the release process and the roar surrounding all pop releases. Hence, using that source to call the album pop is not correct IMO. However, the one below, where the synthpop is mentioned, if you read carefully, it is not describing the song "Sexxx Dreams". Instead it is saying that it is in the song where the synthpop ambitions of the album comes full circle, meaning it is at its strongest there. So we have to discuss that and other reliable sources directly saying it as genre. —Indian:BIO · 03:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- True, it goes about different genres per song, but the infobox is for the genre of the album, not individual songs. So just naming random genres that represent individual songs doesn't help the reader. I suggest either leaving it as vague (you'd find Lady Gaga in a pop music section of a store). Either that or leave the infobox empty and explain it in prose. If it were up to me, I'd remove the genre section away from the infobox everywhere. Andrzejbanas (talk) 23:50, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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80.218.212.110 (talk) 23:33, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
- Not done The request is unclear as to what needs to be done. —Indian:BIO · 06:38, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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Lyrically, the album references Greek and Roman mythology, English novelist George Orwell, and classic jazz and electronic musician Sun Ra
Hello, Here's Gaga team, Haus of Gaga, we love Misplaced Pages page, please, to our concepts, Lady Gaga never read George Orwell books, and she does not have any consent about the reference, Criminal of Though is something about being convicted with a love one, so please remove it, there's no references to the great Orwell, though her team admires him. 179.236.73.59 (talk) 17:38, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- I don't see a specific reference to Orwell or his works in either of the sources cited for that sentence in the intro. Does anybody else see them? Otherwise, I'll strike Orwell. —C.Fred (talk) 17:50, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- I just removed it. Cannot have WP:OR in the lead. —Indian:BIO · 17:53, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, IB. --Another Believer (Talk) 17:59, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- I just removed it. Cannot have WP:OR in the lead. —Indian:BIO · 17:53, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Taiwanese Albums
ARTPOP is number one again on the Taiwanese Albums Chart again. Biagio2103 (talk) 18:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Source? Homeostasis07 (talk) 01:56, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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http://lescharts.ch/weekchart.asp?cat=a&year=2013&date=20131124 77.58.120.172 (talk) 20:54, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- What is the Romandie chart as opposed to the main chart? For that week, the album was #2 on the Schweizer Hitparade. —C.Fred (talk) 21:37, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Not done Please explain more clearly what it is that you want to be edited. —Indian:BIO · 05:10, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Cyprus Album Charts
Please can you add on the charts the Cyprus album charts, were Artpop peaked at number 2? This is the link: http://cyprusmusiccharts.com/charts/official-cyprus-charts/ These charts are new, and are the official album charts based on retail sales of the major record shops in Cyprus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyprus2014 (talk • contribs) 09:13, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- If they are new, who has recognized them as official? WP:BADCHARTS lists a radio chart as deprecated but doesn't address a sales chart. —C.Fred (talk) 16:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
China
ARTPOP is number four on China Albums Charts . Biagio2103 (talk) 16:55, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Reminder: GLAAD
I think I saw that Lady Gaga and the album received a GLAAD nomination for quality music. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:38, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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