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Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because

• I write the article with my own words.
• The part of the text of the article on "Joint Declaration" is completely same in all websites. The bot confuses and mistakenly regard it as copy-paste. But, there is no copy-paste there.
• In the article, "Joint Declaration" part is lengthy, and therefore the bot see it as a copy-paste and copyright violation. The reality is: the articles and text of the "Joint Declaration" is completely the same everywhere:

Cyprus Mail, 11.02.2014: http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/02/11/joint-declaration-final-version-as-agreed-between-the-two-leaders/
Parikiaki, 11.02.2014..: http://www.parikiaki.com/2014/02/cyprus-joint-declaration-full-text/
WordBulletin, 11.02.2014: http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/128702/cyprus-talks-resume-in-friendly-atmosphere
European Voice, 11.02.2014: http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/2014/february/cyprus-reunification-talks-restart/79625.aspx
Predidency of RoC, 11.02.2014: http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/52F9D262093B3137C2257C7C0040EC43?OpenDocument
just a few others. --Alexyflemming (talk) 08:09, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

The Continuous Deletion of Templates Related With the Article

Lfdder continuously deleted the related templates of the article:
24.02.2014 10.12 https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2014_Cyprus_Joint_Declaration&oldid=596894054&diff=prev
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Alexyflemming: (12.02.2014 (The start-day of page) 11:13. The templates and categories added. The templates are for easy navigation. Please, do not delete them. The same templates are used in CyProb related articles.
Lfdder: I contest their addition)
The existence of the Templates in CyProb related articles: Cyprus dispute, Cypriot intercommunal violence, Cypriot refugees, List of diplomatic missions of_Northern Cyprus, List of diplomatic missions in Northern_Cyprus, Embassy of Turkey to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Zürich and London Agreement, Turkish Federated State of Cyprus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexyflemming (talk • contribs) 10:34, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

24.02.2014 09.19 https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2014_Cyprus_Joint_Declaration&diff=prev&oldid=596891100
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Alexyflemming: The templates were already in the article for a long time for easy navigation.
Lfdder: No, they weren't)

23.02.2014 23.11 https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2014_Cyprus_Joint_Declaration&diff=prev&oldid=596821040
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Alexyflemming: The removed categories and templates re-put
Lfdder: No backlinks, links to the gov websites? whatever for? WP:BRD)

23.02.2014 14.21 https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2014_Cyprus_Joint_Declaration&diff=prev&oldid=596775591
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Lfdder: External Links)

12.02.2014 11.13 https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2014_Cyprus_Joint_Declaration&diff=prev&oldid=595125651
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Alexyflemming: Categories added)Alexyflemming (talk) 10:21, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Discounting the fact that there's no backlinks in all but 1....only the most fervent partitionist would consider this to be a matter of foreign relations. — Lfdder (talk) 10:50, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

So, your objection is in that you regard the addition to be "most fervent partitionist issue". Misplaced Pages, WP:COMMON places the most commonly names, not most truely names. Just as is so, the addition of the templates are just for the sake of easing of navigation; nothing else! In Misplaced Pages, these templates are located in numerous article pages: The existence of the Templates in CyProb related articles: Cyprus dispute, Cypriot intercommunal violence, Cypriot refugees, List of diplomatic missions of_Northern Cyprus, List of diplomatic missions in Northern Cyprus, Embassy of Turkey to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Zürich and London Agreement, Turkish Federated State of Cyprus by various Wikipedians. Hence, please be respectful to the general view of the society.

As for your objection to the "foreign relation" in essence; definitely, this is "foreign" from the perspective of Northern Cyprus. You can create a "Template: Domestic Relations of Cyprus", and add your template here, instead of the template "Foreign Relations of Cyprus". Clear? Alexyflemming (talk) 13:07, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

No, that's not my only objection. WP:COMMON is an essay, and I don't see any mention of 'most commonly names' in it. We're under no obligation to follow some sort of precedence. The Cyprus dispute is very much not foreign to Northern Cyprus -- it is felt by every inhabitant. It's not true even in the strictest sense, since the government of Northern Cyprus does not recognise the RoC. So not clear, I'm afraid, no. — Lfdder (talk) 13:52, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

You say "since the government of Northern Cyprus does not recognise the RoC" and hence the teplate "Foreign Relations of Northern Cyprus" should not be put to the article "2014 Cyprus Joint Declaration". There are 2 main inconsistency in your arguement:

1. Cyprus does not recognize Turkey, and Turkey does not recognize Cyprus. On the other hand, both of the Foreign Relations articles of Cyprus and Turkey include each other country. Hence, non-recognition does not prohibit to be behaved as foreign relation.

2. The template Template:Foreign_relations_of_Northern_Cyprus already includes 2014 Cyprus Joint Declaration as an item in it. See the "Agreements" part. Hence, you are blocking the Template Template:Foreign_relations_of_Northern_Cyprus from appearance in one of the Template's item! Alexyflemming (talk) 14:29, 24 February 2014 (UTC)