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Turbo

It appears my mentioning of turbo charged snowmobiles got edit or deleted? They do have that feature. Was that inappropriate what I did? Just trying to learn. Regards,

Karl Shoemaker (talk) 18:38, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

• First things first, Karl: I strongly suggest you remove that URL from your signature, as you are likely to be blocked as a promotional account if you don't. Secondly; if you're talking about this edit, then you will see that I requested you add a source for your information. Thirdly, I hope you take these two things to heart, and keep editing, because you're not being unconstructive from what I can see :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:22, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the ringing endorsement ("BMK, for their faults ... is a net positive"). I may run for admin now!! <g> BMK (talk) 23:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

• Well, it may not have been the best wording, but I feel it is a valid comment. You have a reputation for being combative with some people, and of not mincing words; to some people, that has made you one of their "hit list", so to speak. Which means that they will immediately overlook anything good that you do. And there are definitely a lot of people who would make worse admins than you, although I wouldn't expect an RfA to pass (too many "haters", so to speak). :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:57, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Honestly, I didn't mean to criticize you at all, since it was a pretty accurate statement, I think. And FTR, I would never run for admin, and if I did, I certainly wouldn't be confirmed. (If you see me standing for admin, you might want to have someone check to see if my account's been compromised, or if I've taken leave of my senses.) BMK (talk) 02:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

• I wasn't in the best state of mind last night, so I'm not surprised I misinterpreted it a bit :) and I wouldn't expect you to run for admin either. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 08:44, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For your post(s) on WP:RFPP. Bearian (talk) 19:29, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

• Thank you Bearian, although I obviously wish those requests were all unnecessary :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 20:11, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Request for admin assistance

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

As I feel our exchange has been somewhat unfortunate, I've made a request for benevolent admin assistance . 86.173.146.3 (talk) 23:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

• Thank you for your responses. As you'll see I've tried to direct the discussion towards what I see as the underlying issues. Fyi, my reference to age on your talk page was only intended to recognize the age-related aspect of the challenges and pitfalls of online communication (for instance, there are always real people behind usernames/ips, and often we're hampered by the fact that we have very little idea who they really are). Also, there is now a section on the article talk page for discussion of the editorial role of the link -- I'd request you to comment there before removing the link again. Thank you, 86.173.146.3 (talk) 09:42, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Talk page comments

Hi, Lukeno94,
I know all about WP:DENY but I'd appreciate it if you would not remove or refactor comments left on my talk page. I can handle that myself, thanks. Liz 00:11, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

• In most cases, I wouldn't, but given the abusive commentary by this user, I was just removing everything posted by their sock IPs in one go. :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 08:20, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, at least you sound a bit apologetic! The same thing happened two weeks ago and the deleting editor was pretty defiant about it. With Colton, I tried to counter his negative comments with providing alternatives to ranting. I'd rather he rant to me than post on 20 admin talk pages. Liz 00:27, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

• Sadly, he's been doing both, and that's the problem. I don't appreciate him flat-out lying about what I've said, either. If he was only ranting in one place, I'd be inclined to leave it be. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 00:31, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Last question

Since going to allow two injustices, you could at least tell Maragm and company that the discussion in article Peter III of Aragon started on January 14 and therefore the previous edition is what I advocate. I'm tired of being accused of not respecting timeout.--EeuHP (talk) 17:12, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

• You are the one who needs to discuss that with them, I'm afraid, if you still desire this change to happen. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 17:28, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

• The problem is that his image his the change. The previous image is Pedro III de Aragón.jpg and they act as if it were the other way around. Anyway, leave. I see you are not willing.--EeuHP (talk) 17:51, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Allen Leech

to be fair, the editor seems to have acted in good faith. poko 22:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.85.202.167 (talk)

• I never accused anyone of acting in bad faith. However, the Sunday Mirror is a notoriously unreliable source - even interviews cannot be trusted, as they have often fabricated/manipulated part of interviews, and even the whole thing. As a result of that, and the fact that the subject of the article has publicly stated that it was a load of bollocks, it went in the bin. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

• i didn't mean to imply that you did, so i have struck off part of my statement. :) 74.44.161.102 (talk) 00:41, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

• Given how often people like to misrepresent me around here, I've taken to making it absolutely clear what I've said - I didn't think you were saying that I had accused someone of acting in bad faith :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 09:58, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Giano

I didn't want to keep replying on Giano's talk page lest it be viewed as gravedancing, as that is not my intention. However, Giano was blocked last week for edit warring with arbs, chose to revert war on the other party's talk page, then chose to revert an arb that hid a personal attack on an arbitration page and finally doubled down with more personal attacks. Indef was not out of line, in my view. Expecting him to grovel might be a bit much, but clearly he needs to apply an apology or two. However, you may actually be right. Primarily because I wonder if he is too proud to apologize for his own behaviour after making a federal case out of another editor's unwillingness to back down/apologize? Resolute 00:13, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

• I'm not denying that Giano deserved a block; they did. However, escalating all the way to an indef, and to mark it as an ArbCom block, which will severely restrict their chances of ever being unblocked, seems very much to be inappropriate to me. A month-long block was probably justified, but no more. And we've seen it before; you pretty much have to kiss ArbCom's ass to get one of their indefinite blocks removed (when marked as "only ArbCom can deal with this"). Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 00:22, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

• Perhaps. I won't deny that I'm not going to be all that broken up about it if Giano never returns, but there is certainly an argument to be made that Arbcom's own failings in this case warrants a little contrition on their own part. From that perspective, I do think an honest apology from Giano and promise to cease edit warring on arbitration pages should be viewed as sufficient cause for an immediate unblock. Resolute 00:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

• I'm about to go off to bed now, but I would entirely agree that an honest apology should be enough for an immediate unblock, but the question is though; would it be? Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 00:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Krutoi dezigner is back

Krutoi dezigner is back, he's edit warring and continuing personal attacks "Deleted edits added by a special boy..."--RAF910 (talk) 01:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

• Well, they're gone again, and this time for good (until they start socking - if they're smart enough to figure out how to). Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 10:00, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/EFAF Atlantic Cup

Hello Luke, when you AfD anything football related, could you please add it to Nominations for deletion and page moves so that it's not overlooked. I have posted your EFAF Atlantic Cup AfD to WT:FOOTY for input. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 14:10, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• It wasn't association football related. It was American Football, which is not under our remit. In fact, I already explained that at least once. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 14:16, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• My sincere apologies. I saw your User name and assumed it was related to Association football. Sorry again. JMHamo (talk) 14:20, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• It's understandable, and I found that article whilst searching for The Atlantic Cup (football) sources. I was just a little peeved as you are the second person not to actually look before adding it in to our Wikiproject's list. :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 14:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Futurliner

I am an ATHS antique truck historical society member, this is updated information regardless of wether it came off a blog. it is from hemmings motor news. I originally wrote that paragraph and someone is changing it to incorrect information. My most recent edit cleaned it up. stop reversing my changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbschev (talk • contribs) 20:08, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• Can you provide the official, non-blog source then please? Also, your edits really didn't clean it up, they made it worse. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 20:16, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

GM Futurliner Page

I am trying to Accurately edit the futurliner page, the line (Two buses are generally beyond restoration and are in storage.{citation needed|date=July 2013}) in the Today category was added by me in 2013 and needs to be omitted as it is no longer true, IE the Restoration of Futurliner#5 as shown in the reference @ www.hemmings.com. Followed by the discovery that the Peter Pan Bus line in Springfield Mass, has 2 busses instead of just one (one restored one not) was already described at the begging of the paragraph. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbschev (talk • contribs) 21:02, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• You have made a complete and utter mess of the entire thing. Making a mess of various tags, sentence structures, and generally everything. I strongly suggest you click "show preview" before you save your edits. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

Hi Luke

Just made a start on a GA review and TRM comes in after 15 minutes with this, which is really not conducive to encyclopaedia building, particularly in the middle of a review. I tried to take on board your comments on his talk page, but apparently he hasn't. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks, C679 19:19, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I was shocked you'd missed this terrible POV. Maybe you were going back to re-review it later. I guess the ego comment has bitten you, if you can't handle the criticism of your own review quality. Sorry about that. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:28, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• Look, let's be blunt here; you've both fucked up by not taking enough care in your GA reviews; TRM by not checking the sources and some of the prose properly, and C679 by missing that fairly obviously non-neutral commentary. You both need to act like adults, and not continue to turn this into a massive dramafest. C679, your posts on TRM's talk page were out of line, and unfortunately TRM, you rose to the bait. There is nothing wrong with TRM's comment in the article you linked there, apart from the fact that "soaked in POV" is a bit more inflammatory than is necessary (however, it is still very, very mild). Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Dave Murphy

Yes, it's a shame, but it was coming. Apart from the defending, and the free kicks, I always liked his ability to appear unnoticed in the opposing penalty area. I was surprised how good he looked the first time I saw him this season, genuinely didn't look as if he'd been away. What worries me about young Mitchell becoming the next Murphy is his tendency to pick up injuries.

Didn't you start working on the article at one stage? please feel free to carry on. I'm happier either finding sources for stuff or noticing what's missing than doing any actual writing at the moment, but I'll gladly contribute to what you do with it. If you do decide to improve it, it may be worth consulting Jmorrison230582 on the Hibs section. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:12, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

• Struway2, I did do a fair bit of work a while ago. I'll start a GA push when my health improves. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 11:35, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Toyota Agya

Hey there Luke! Thanks for the brief welcome. I have added some references to the page Toyota Agya. The page is not in English but considering this page is about a car that will only be available in Indonesia (at least for the Agya name) I think that should not be a problem just like the existing reference ("PT. Toyota Astra Motor | Mobil Terbaik Keluarga Indonesia | Product | Agya | price-and-specifications". Indonesia: Toyota. Retrieved 2013-10-21.)

Please have a look and let me know if it needs some fixing. Regards Nismo91 (talk) 14:17, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

• Hello Nismo91, I'm glad you've reacted in the right way here. Non-English sources are perfectly acceptable, and the fact that Filipino and Indonesian Agyas use different engines is definitely worthy of note, so I'm very glad that you've kept both things in the article, and referenced them both. Good job! :) Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 14:28, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Google search

Google search shouldn't be the be-all-and-end-all for research prior to thinking about nominating something for AFD.

There are references other than what is readily available on teh interwebs.

You know, like your local library microfiche, or archival news databases such as InfoTrac, NewsBank, LexisNexis, Westlaw, stuff like that.

Hopefully that's helpful info for you to consider before your next AFD nomination of something notable,

— Cirt (talk) 19:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

• Noted. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:43, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! :) — Cirt (talk) 22:00, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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