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Template:Largest cities in Turkey
The number for Izmir is correct. Reason is that the old number was for province, not for city. For some reason there is a larger diff between Izmir province and Izmir city than for any of the others. Izmir province has several smaller cities beside Izmir itself, so there are a relatively larger number of people living outside city limits, but still inside the province. --T*U (talk) 11:58, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks a lot for the explanation! The Banner talk 14:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey there Banner. I need your help. Lord of Rivendell is back again. He got blocked for his reckless edits but he is unblocked now. He is on one of those 'edit sprees' and now he is on to this template, reverting my pictures, which you have opened up a section about and thanked me for putting those to the template. Help me with that will you. If he goes up like this again, i will fill a complainment about him. KazekageTR (talk) 19:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
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Kilmurry Ibrickane (Kilmurray)
Good morning,
The Rfd at WP:RFD#Kilmurry Ibrickane (village), it seems somewhat controversial between you and User:Dr. Blofeld what to do about the targets and whether which one is WP:PRIMARY. I have known (only from WP not in real life) Blofeld for many years so I don't want to be seen to be taking sides. My position is simply that the articles themselves or their titles have to be sorted out between yourselves before there is any hope of discussing the redirect, since they are all being moved about after you brought it to RfD, so how can an editor comment on the RfD when it is being moved about and the hatnote removed and stuff? But I didn't want you to think that simply cos I have acquaintance with Blofeld that would mean I would immediately take his side, I just hadn't seen him for a long time so wanted just to say hello. Si Trew (talk) 09:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- The facts are quite simple: he is wrong and refuses to acknowledge that. And with his reputation as edit warrior, I just can wait what he is doing and try to repair the damage and minimize the effects. He is totally confused by the civil parishes and seems to think that they are still active (no), that they are historical (no, not active but never formally abolished. If I am correct they are still in use for liquor licenses), that they are identical to RC parishes (no). The relationship with Protestant parishes is ignored, although the civil parishes are based on the (former) Protestant parishes. And I don't know (and don't care) where he is living but he should not be messing around with places and parishes that I know first hand because I am living there... The Banner talk 11:18, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- I've removed the comment you added to the RfD after it was closed. Please don't do that. — Scott • talk 16:11, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not see that the RfD was already closed. The Banner talk 16:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Ah - okay. Sorry for coming across grumpy, my AGF levels need a top-up this week. — Scott • talk 16:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not see that the RfD was already closed. The Banner talk 16:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
tailor-surname
Discussion moved into Template talk:Tailor-surname, where other people may join the discussion. - Altenmann >t 16:47, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Would you please stop disrupting the navigation template by unlinking the lists of surnames from it. - Altenmann >t 16:04, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- On the other hand, I am not linking to disambig pages. I thought I complied with your previous reverts and now I link to pages called "something (surname)" rather than "something (disambiguation)". If there is a wikipedia rule which forbids doing so, I am happy to comply with it as well. You being annoyed, just take a break, relax and have some beer or milk. Misplaced Pages is mightily annoying, that I can agree. - Altenmann >t 16:22, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Did you ever follow the links you have added?
- "Sarti (surname)" redirects to "Sarti", a disambiguation page
- "Sartre (surname)" redirects to "Sartre (disambiguation)", a disambiguation page
- So please, create real articles about the surnames... The Banner talk 16:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- So please hear other people as well. DId you happen to look in the tepmalte talk page? It explains why it is done so. You also did not answer my question where linking to disambig pages is forbidden. It fact, it is expressly allowed. - Altenmann >t 16:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- There is a whole WikiProject to fight against/solve links to disambiguation pages. So you could say people consider those links into thin air as a problem. It are in fact fake links, not directing you to a real article. See Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation#Links_to_disambiguation_pages for the Guideline. The Banner talk 16:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- So please hear other people as well. DId you happen to look in the tepmalte talk page? It explains why it is done so. You also did not answer my question where linking to disambig pages is forbidden. It fact, it is expressly allowed. - Altenmann >t 16:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Lakes
I find this incomprehensible, but I'm willing to listen to other views, and have started a discussion on Talk:Lakes accordingly. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 23:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld
I find your posts on Dr. Blofeld's talk page inappropriate. It appears that nominations closed in your favour, so do the decent thing and go about yourself in a dignified manner. Don't go trolling and grave dancing on a users talk page as that is not a very civil thing to do. Cassianto 23:59, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- The protection campaign for Blofeld is heart warming, but it should be useful that you take a look into HIS rude behaviour and HIS sloppy work. Censorship is not bringing Misplaced Pages forward. The Banner talk 00:05, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Maybe if you conducted yourself a bit better on here, you too would have a "protection campaign". Sadly, I do t think that will happen. I'm also puzzled at your statement that he produces "sloppy work". He has contributed more to this project in terms of new material and featured articles that you could ever hope to do yourself. His contributions should prove that if you wish to go over them. Cassianto 00:11, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, his sloppy work. Like creating the article Kilmurry Ibrickane (village), an article about a non-existing village based only on Google Maps. And read the soap around Kilmurry Ibrickane, where he suddenly decided that the Roman Catholic parish was also a civil parish what they are not. And him ignoring my pleas not to work on civil parishes because the list provided was very bad and needed repair first (a village is off course not a civil parish). He in fact even ignores his own source that clearly states that civil parishes are based on Protestant parishes and that Roman Catholic parishes are different. The last days I am only repairing the damage he has done. I tried to keep the discussion going, but to no avail. The Banner talk 00:28, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with your arguments with him and neither do I care. WP is a big place so it would be impossible for us not to bump into someone who we don't get on with every now and again. The good doctor has decided, it appears, to take some time out and it is not right for you to go to his talk page and grave dance when the nomination has closed in your favour, knowing how passionate your opponent felt about the matter. That's why I reverted you and not, as you wrongly describe, because of his "protection campaign". Cassianto 08:59, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- It has nothing to do with grave dancing. It is now the second time he leaves Misplaced Pages after he could not win a clash with me. I looks like he still haven't recovered from the clash regarding to the Dorchester Hotel that he still is upset about it almost six months later. I don't care about people who miss the capacity to deal with set backs and have no self-reflection. He can do his thing as long as we don't come across. But I don't waver in front of bullies and drama queens. He better learns to live with that. The Banner talk 11:03, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Firstly, there is nothing magnanimous in having "clashes" and I am puzzled as to why you think you have "won" any kind of clash. It's not about winning and losing, it's about creating content and coming to an agreement when there is a differing of opinion. "Clashes" harm the project and benefit no one. Secondly, to say Dr. B holds a grudge over a past incident is both assumptive and incorrect. You really must assume good faith. Finally, to state your reluctance of "wavering in front of bullies and drama queens" is inflammatory in this context as Dr. B is neither, and I should ask you again to refer to AGF. Cassianto 19:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Dude, he started over the Dorchester Hotel. Because of the clash around the Dorchester Hotel he also left Misplaced Pages. So don't bother. And I take no responsibility for his prima donna behaviour and his quitting. And for AGF: I am fully prepared to accept his apologies for his accusations and behaviour. The Banner talk 19:45, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Firstly, there is nothing magnanimous in having "clashes" and I am puzzled as to why you think you have "won" any kind of clash. It's not about winning and losing, it's about creating content and coming to an agreement when there is a differing of opinion. "Clashes" harm the project and benefit no one. Secondly, to say Dr. B holds a grudge over a past incident is both assumptive and incorrect. You really must assume good faith. Finally, to state your reluctance of "wavering in front of bullies and drama queens" is inflammatory in this context as Dr. B is neither, and I should ask you again to refer to AGF. Cassianto 19:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- It has nothing to do with grave dancing. It is now the second time he leaves Misplaced Pages after he could not win a clash with me. I looks like he still haven't recovered from the clash regarding to the Dorchester Hotel that he still is upset about it almost six months later. I don't care about people who miss the capacity to deal with set backs and have no self-reflection. He can do his thing as long as we don't come across. But I don't waver in front of bullies and drama queens. He better learns to live with that. The Banner talk 11:03, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with your arguments with him and neither do I care. WP is a big place so it would be impossible for us not to bump into someone who we don't get on with every now and again. The good doctor has decided, it appears, to take some time out and it is not right for you to go to his talk page and grave dance when the nomination has closed in your favour, knowing how passionate your opponent felt about the matter. That's why I reverted you and not, as you wrongly describe, because of his "protection campaign". Cassianto 08:59, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, his sloppy work. Like creating the article Kilmurry Ibrickane (village), an article about a non-existing village based only on Google Maps. And read the soap around Kilmurry Ibrickane, where he suddenly decided that the Roman Catholic parish was also a civil parish what they are not. And him ignoring my pleas not to work on civil parishes because the list provided was very bad and needed repair first (a village is off course not a civil parish). He in fact even ignores his own source that clearly states that civil parishes are based on Protestant parishes and that Roman Catholic parishes are different. The last days I am only repairing the damage he has done. I tried to keep the discussion going, but to no avail. The Banner talk 00:28, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Maybe if you conducted yourself a bit better on here, you too would have a "protection campaign". Sadly, I do t think that will happen. I'm also puzzled at your statement that he produces "sloppy work". He has contributed more to this project in terms of new material and featured articles that you could ever hope to do yourself. His contributions should prove that if you wish to go over them. Cassianto 00:11, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Dr. Blofeld / The Banner dispute. Thank you. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:27, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Re: WP:NOTBROKEN
I certainly appreciate your desire to bring order to the chaos that exists in links to plural titles redirecting to the singular. However, we have over 220,000 disambiguation links still to be fixed, which are actual errors (i.e., clicking on those links currently takes the reader to the wrong page). Putting aside the interpretation of WP:NOTBROKEN, wouldn't it just be a better use of your time as an editor to worry about fixing links that actually have incorrect targets (and other actual errors) before spending time on links that currently lead to the correct target? bd2412 T 17:57, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Give me a job and I will only hunt down links to disambiguation pages till we are down till about 5000/10,000 (the level the Dutch Misplaced Pages never managed to come under). If not, I just do what I think that should be done in my pace and to my own desire. The Banner talk 20:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- We have something better than a job - we have a contest - with a prize. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:27, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- It is funny enough to see my name nearly every month in that list, although I am not a real competitor on that. The Banner talk 21:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- We have something better than a job - we have a contest - with a prize. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:27, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Ruan, County Clare, Drumcliff, County Clare, Quin, County Clare
I have restored the well-sourced additions that you removed from these articles. If you feel that the County Clare Library is not a reliable source for the information on these civil parishes, and before getting into an edit war, please discuss this on the articles' talk pages. Please first read Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ireland#Civil parishes vs villages. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 02:23, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
- @Aymatth2: I have answered at the Wikiproject and explained why you are, in my opinion, wrong. The Banner talk 13:51, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, when you go about tinkering with disambiguating things at Template:Syrian civil war detailed map, take care to leave brackets on the labels. Otherwise, the letters in the names "pile up" in an unsightly fashion (example). ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 20:22, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- It would be better when you create valid links instead of links to disambiguation pages. If you do that, I don't have to do anything with that map. The Banner talk 20:36, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
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Hello, you have nominated my article for deletion. I was quite shocked because I have spent two weeks writing it and would like to develop it towards GA. I made sure that I have included all negative aspects in the "Critique" section and didn't exaggerate the good aspects, but summarized what I have found in the reliable sources. Could you please compare it with HTC One (GA) after which I have modeled UE Boom? There wasn't really much bad to write about UE Boom, as it got "Excellent" rating from PC Magazine and iF 'Gold award'. I believe I have maintained NPOV throughout the article. I have included a number of attributed quotes too. I felt that I have actually over-criticized UE Boom by including all mentions of negative aspects. I understand that the article may look as advertisement to some, but if you will compare it with HTC One, it will just look as much. Dmatteng (talk) 16:02, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- Every article is judged on its own merits, so comparing is useless. The Banner talk 17:15, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- WP:Otherstuffexists, sure. But lets take a view at the guidelines WP:Guide to deletion:
- "Before nominating a recently created article, please consider that many good articles started their Wikilife in pretty bad shape. Unless it is obviously a hopeless case, consider sharing your reservations with the article creator, mentioning your concerns on the article's discussion page, and/or adding a "cleanup" template, instead of bringing the article to AfD." Dmatteng (talk) 20:38, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I do not buy that. Especially not after canvassing. The article is still advertising and not a neutral description. The Banner talk 01:05, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- If you think the article is advertisement, could you please:
- a) Provide instances (words/sentences)?
- b) Why would I intentionally mention the least number of hours of battery life that undermines the manufacturer's claim? And place it next to it? (If my desire is to advertise?)
- c) Let's assume for the purpose of our discussion that you are absolutely right, and it is an advertisement. Why wouldn't you follow the guidelines that is designed for that specific case: WP:Guide to deletion? The article would fall exactly into: "Before nominating a recently created article.. sharing your reservations with the article creator ..instead of bringing the article to AfD." Dmatteng (talk) 11:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- If you think the article is advertisement, could you please:
- Sorry, I do not buy that. Especially not after canvassing. The article is still advertising and not a neutral description. The Banner talk 01:05, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Central Baptist Theological Seminary (Kansas)
Hello The Banner. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Central Baptist Theological Seminary (Kansas), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: I've corrected the redirect to the page it is meant to go to. Thank you. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:15, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- You have replaced the loop by another loop. There is just no article about the Central Baptist Theological Seminary in Kansas and the dab-page should contain a red link. The Banner talk 12:27, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Disruptive Editing
See Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ireland#Refusal to accept consensus. I have asked for community views on this activity. Aymatth2 (talk) 11:54, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Doora
You know the drill, please sort out your differences on the talk page. Oh, and please don't use Twinkle to edit-war; if you must edit-war, do it the old-fashioned way. And please don't template the regulars—you've been around long enough that that's the last thing that's going to de-escalate the situation. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:57, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- Where did I use Twinkle to edit war? I only used it to warn Blofeld for deliberately introducing factual errors. The Banner talk 10:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
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Blocked for repairing deliberately introduced errors
You have been blocked from editing for a period of a week for refusal to adhere to consensus, edit-warring, and an astonishing refusal to accept that your conduct is problematic, despite this being pointed out to you by multiple editors in good standing; if this continues, you will be heading towards an indefinite block. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice:{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
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- Brilliant, I get a block for trying to keep Misplaced Pages correct while the two dudes who are knowingly introducing factual errors walk away free. The Banner talk 12:38, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
- I don't give a shot about the content at hand. Your belligerence, not the accuracy or otherwise of anyone's edits, is what's got you a week off. Perhaps take the opportunity to regain some perspective. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:43, 29 March 2014 (UTC)