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My Awards

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless contributions and upkeep of the Recent Deaths pages; your efforts are appreciated. Keep up the good work! Weatherman90 03:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

		The Australian Barnstar of National Merit
		for your efforts with Australian articles Gnangarra 00:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		This is for your tireless contributions and work on the Recent Deaths section. I stride to make my edits like yours. Keep up the good work! Chandlerjoeyross (talk) 22:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

		Death Star
		This Death Star award is again for all your hard work on the Recent Deaths pages. Kiwipat (talk) 23:12, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Recovery
		I am honored to award you this barnstar for your work in improving the article Kelley Abbey in the face of pending deletion. Your diligent WP:AFTER improves the project for all its readers. Great job! Schmidt, 19:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	For your excellent speedy deletion tagging :). Ironholds (talk) 11:57, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		Good catches on the Sandy Hook article Amadscientist (talk) 12:49, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	For excellent work objectively streamlining over-referencing at Victoria Leigh Soto. Jokestress (talk) 12:22, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

	The Hard Worker's Barnstar
	For formatting the references on the annual "Deaths in XXXX" pages into a less-unwieldy more-efficient format, thus reducing pageload times. — Coyote 03:36, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Nicos Anastasiades - Well spotted, he created eight such articles before I could get a block in!  Ronhjones  23:48, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

My DYK

On 8 July, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Birtles Shorrock Goble, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On 21 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mick Clough, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On 5 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Roger Vanderfield, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On April 19, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Harvey Lowe, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On July 27, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Poh Ling Yeow, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On February 1, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kim Hollingsworth, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On February 23, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Crystal Taliefero, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On February 24, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ken Emerson, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On March 28, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Birtles & Goble, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On April 22, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Colm Kiernan, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On June 4, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Marion Grasby, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On 22 April 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Samantha McClymont, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that at age 18, Australian country music singer Samantha McClymont was crowned Grafton Jacaranda Queen, named Trans-Tasman Entertainer of the Year, and was a Top 118 finalist for Australian Idol? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On 10 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Death of Wang Yue, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the hit-and-run death of a two-year-old girl has led to a possible "Good Samaritan" law in China? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Death of Wang Yue.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On 12 January 2014, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Death and state funeral of Nelson Mandela, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the sign language interpreter for the state memorial service of Nelson Mandela made meaningless hand gestures that did not reflect established signs? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Fame at last...

How does Misplaced Pages deal with a mass shooting? A frenzied start gives way to a few core editors. No mention of me though:). Nice diagrams, and a quick look at the page histories of shooting incidents will show a core of regular editors.--♦IanMacM♦ 17:30, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Were you aware?

I assume that you have been made aware of this. But, in the event that you were not, I wanted to point it out to you and bring this to your attention. Your name was mentioned in this article: How does Misplaced Pages deal with a mass shooting? A frenzied start gives way to a few core editors. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:46, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Deaths in 2014

Why is it not allowed to post a pseudonym when someone is not generally known by his real name? George Goodman isn't known by that name, but he would be by his "Adam Smith" alias, so I believed his alias should be shown to identify him to those who know him by that moniker. I think that is important for general readers to see so they know a writer they read has died. How come it is fine to have it in his page, and on the reference that says he died in using that pseudonym, quote: "George Goodman, aka TV's "Adam Smith," dies at 83" but not to ID him *also* that way on the obit page, where you replied: "we use article names here, not nicknames"? Where do I go in Wiki to ask for a change to the current misguided procedure on the Deaths page so people can see the nickname they recognize a person by, while also of course using his real name? Nobody is trying to use only "Adam Smith" to ID him, just asking to have both his real name and his famous newspaper nickname in the Deaths page. --Katydidit (talk) 03:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Program name now included parenthetically (). WWGB (talk) 03:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. At least you understood the importance of giving a pseudonym in some way for a media person who was unknown in his given name, instead of constantly deleting it, saying you can't use nicknames, but you never once cited any Wiki rule against using it. I don't see the big difference in using the pseudonym by itself along with his real name in the list, and I presume there is no Wiki rule. Thanks again, and if it should happen another time with a nickname that is more well-known, just let it be added since it doesn't hurt the person's death mention in the slightest. If there is no explicit Wiki rule against something added for clarification, then you have to let it be. --Katydidit (talk) 05:25, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Question about Deaths page

If an article specifies that the person died of old age, should that be included? EvergreenFir (talk) 06:19, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't think old age, of itself, is a cause of death and is unlikely to be reported on a death certificate. I think it more likely that such a death would be attributed to something like "age-related illness" in the absence of a more specific condition. Regards, WWGB (talk) 06:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about SuggestBot misbehaving

Hi, I run SuggestBot and I noticed it kept posting to your talk page. Sorry about that! I looked into the problem and found that it's due to an issue with a library we use, leading it to not find its own template and not being able to remove it. I've removed the suggestion templates for now and gotten in touch with the library author to see if there's a fix, and if not, patch SuggestBot. Again, apologies for its poor behaviour. Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 17:10, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Death and state funeral of Nelson Mandela

On 12 January 2014, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Death and state funeral of Nelson Mandela, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the sign language interpreter for the state memorial service of Nelson Mandela made meaningless hand gestures that did not reflect established signs? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:11, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

The page Stavros Damianidis was proposed for deletion. It was created as a reference to Stavros Damianides because Wiki is stupid and can not understand both spellings. But the article Stavros Damianides (note the spelling) was ratified by articles in the Western Australian Newspaper, video footage on the Chanel 9 TV station stage, and a complete write up in the now defunct Walkabout Magazine. In other words you deleted the wrong article. I am not the creator of the article but know the person very well. I propose you return the page the way it was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ephestion (talk • contribs) 22:59, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I cannot restore anything, I am not an administrator. If you think a person is notable, you are welcome to create an article. WWGB (talk) 23:04, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Deaths in 2014

Aaahhhh....so it is. Quentin X (talk) 13:21, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Adam Brandt

A tag has been placed on Adam Brandt requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either

• disambiguates two or fewer extant Misplaced Pages pages and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic); or
• disambiguates no (zero) extant Misplaced Pages pages, regardless of its title.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Boleyn (talk) 12:51, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Adam Brandt for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Adam Brandt is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Adam Brandt until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Boleyn (talk) 20:26, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Les McNicol edit

Hi, I'm not sure what better evidence there could be for a death date than the death certificate I have for my Grandfather? Can you explain why you've edited it back to the 16th Feb 2013? I'm not sure how to cite a death certificate as it's not a web page, news, a book or journal & because the date was incorrectly reported in the media, it seems impossible to refute otherwise — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcinpalmy (talk • contribs) 07:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

It seems that multiple sites all state the 16 February date: , , . I'm not sure what you can do, unless you can find a source that gives the correct date. Misplaced Pages prefers independent sources over primary sources like death certificates. Regards, WWGB (talk) 22:50, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Sydney Meetup on Monday evening

There's a Meetup in Sydney on Monday (tomorrow) evening from 5:30pm at the Paragon Hotel Circular Quay. We even have an international guest. See the meetup page for more details and to sign up. Sorry for the late notice - I hope you can make it. --99of9 (talk) 05:55, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

SPAs

I suggest you stop labelling people as SPAs. You have no evidence whatsoever about their editing history, which may be done while not logged in, like me. So stop trying to push your own agenda, and I think you should remove those tags from the !votes of numerous editors at the Marius deletion proposal. 86.31.7.99 (talk) 12:09, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

It's allowed and I will continue. If you don't like it, open an account. WWGB (talk) 12:12, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Read my post at the deletion proposal about not lecturing. And it seems even when people open an account you don't like it. You just don't like anything other than established editors with accounts. 86.31.7.99 (talk) 12:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Giraffe deletion nomination

I replied to you over at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Marius (giraffe), but in short, I wasn't trying to withdraw the nomination, only to change my own !vote. Pakaran 15:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Gert "Kralle" Krawinkel

I'm curious about your reverting of my edit including the commonly used name of Kralle Krawinkel. Your edit summary states that you reverted it to match the name of the article. However, the way it was written (as Gert "Kralle" Krawinkel) and the link being set properly made it so that it should be easy for anyone to recognize it under either name. Krawinkel was referred by his nickname more than his given name--even the sourced article uses the name Kralle in the headline, and a casual fan of the group might not even recognize the name Gert. Anyway, I respect your opinion and the immense work you have done on the Death pages over the years. I simply ask--is there a Misplaced Pages policy or some other rationale that precludes this type of reference? Eauhomme (talk) 03:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a stickler for consistency so I think the name in Deaths should match the article name. Once we start to diverge, we start getting all sorts of variations (especially for people like wrestlers and rappers) like Maurice "Mad Dog" Vachon. If Krawinkel is better known as "Kralle", then perhaps a better way is to launch a page move from Gert Krawinkel to Kralle Krawinkel? I rely on WP:COMMONNAME for my position, and it applies to article titles: "Misplaced Pages prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in reliable English-language sources) as such names will be the most recognizable and the most natural". Thanks for the compliment, I enjoy the work I do at Deaths, especially as it is one of the most sought-out pages at Misplaced Pages. It's also refreshing to engage in a discussion about differing opinions while remaining respectful. Too often I am greeted with messages that begin like "You $%@#&*, how dare you &^$%@*ing edit my work ...". Regards, WWGB (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate your response. It makes perfect sense with that policy. Kralle is probably more appropriate (I think of it like William "Axl" Rose), but either works. I find that it is too easy to get emotional about minor issues on Misplaced Pages, and I have seen my fair share of flame wars start up (one reason why I no longer participate much in the Articles for Deletion). That being said, "You $%@#&*, how dare you &^$%@*ing edit my work ..." Just kidding, of course. Cheers, Eauhomme (talk) 06:13, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Viscera

WWGB, please, read Talk:Nelson Frazier, Jr.#Requested move and Talk:Nelson Frazier, Jr.#Above discussion. There are no "credits" in pro wrestling TV shows so if you just watch the pro wrestling television show, you'll never know him as "Nelson Frazier". The talk page discussion on his article's page tells the story: the only reason why the article is at the birth name, is because us WP:PW editors couldn't decide whether Mabel, Viscera or Big Daddy V was his most common name, so by default, we used his real name. This sentence in particular: he is definitely not primarily known by his given name, but he's been well known by a variety of names. Look at the reliable source coverage, they all also mention his ring names because that's what's he's known for being. LA Times, Intl Business Times, Baltimore Sun, Edmonton Journal, Digital Spy. Some sources don't even mention "Nelson Frazier" in the title! Memphisport, TMZ, Sportsmole My point is, if you don't mention the ring names, some people are definitely not going to recognize "Nelson Frazier". starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 12:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It seems to me that the issue is more about wrestling editors not agreeing on his best-known character name, and then naming his article accordingly. I see that Frazier had at least eight ring names. I could argue that reporting just three of those is just as arbitrary as choosing one name and renaming the article. Any way, I have started a discussion at Talk:Deaths in 2014#Wrestlers' character names to which you may want to contribute. Regards, WWGB (talk) 12:35, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

SKILLED Group

Apologies for the unexplained revert. I was just reviewing the repeated vandalism of this page and i'm glad you're helping keep it clean. The reason I undid your changes is because many major ASX listed companies include the names of their directors. If you disagree with this, then that's fine - let's leave them out.

My greater concern is the repeated vandalism from another user:Pborobokas Kind regards, Ltobrien (talk) 04:04, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

2014 Kunming attacks

And neither should we assume readers know where the majority of U.S. states are, yet loads of articles on U.S. topics make no mention of the U.S. location in the lede or even infobox. I am not accusing you of intentionally implementing a double standard, yet that is the effect here. Also, the Chinese location is made even clearer by the usage of Beijing time (I can even change it to "China Standard Time") close by. Case closed. GotR 02:39, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Elephant broom?

Dumb question but on Deaths in 2014 you often say "elephant broom" as edit reason. What does that mean? I get broom = clean up... EvergreenFir (talk) 05:16, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Wait... is an elephant broom used for extra large piles of shit? (If so, that joke just hit me... otherwise, I still find it amusing). EvergreenFir (talk) 05:16, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Heh, okay. I'll try to be on the lookout for ref issues and formatting more in the future. I check occasionally, but your tireless efforts usually mean I find nothing needing fixing. I'll splurge for an extra fancy broom for you one day. Cheers. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:37, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia Flight 370 and corporate travelers

Hi! Please see Talk:Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370#Details_of_groups_of_corporate_travelers WhisperToMe (talk) 01:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia Flight 370 and nearby Lewit oil-field

hi! I can guess why you undid my addition, but I wonder what you considered to be "original" about the "research". Was it the word "nearby"? The location of Lawit is beyond dispute. And "nearby" was noticed earlier by "Schrodingers Cat": http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Malaysia-Airlines-says-it-has-lost-contact-with-plane-carrying-239-people-M?page=23 Despite the unreliability of this source, it is trivial to confirm his point. Layzeeboi (talk) 03:44, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

In order to include mention of the nearby oilfield in the article, a reliable source needs to have made a connection between the likely airplane crash site and the oilfield. I probably should have called it WP:SYNTHESIS rather than OR. Regards, WWGB (talk) 07:00, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370&diff=next&oldid=598980427

Hi, WWGB, I noticed you edit. I do not know who said the passports where European, but that is what the article stated and that is why I made the link to the European passport. Because Italy is part of the European Union, it makes sense... Lotje (talk) 15:58, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Thanks for noting that the archive bot is not working on Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. I was just about to attempt a manual archive when I saw the bot was there. The page is way too long now. Are you able to archive this manually or implement a bot that is working? Sorry, I wasn't sure if you were already doing this and I don't want to mess it up anyway.

Thanks! —sroc 💬 23:41, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey WWGB! Can you please just let the flags in the international participation area stay, because, I also corrected some errors while I was editing it.... Thanks... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.253.220.95 (talk) 03:28, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

No, I think they are not appropriate. Please seek consensus at the article talk page if you want them retained. If you made other edits in the same change, you will need to re-do them. WWGB (talk) 03:33, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I understand.It's just that I think the international participation list looked a bit dull, so I decided to add the flags, Thanks for understanding.... I will now comply to your edit and just accept it. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincenty770Flag123 (talk • contribs) 03:55, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit?

Thecodingproject (talk) 11:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Because there was nothing to add, so why list the country? WWGB (talk) 11:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Giddings has conceded defeat

Hi. Thanks for your input on the template of Premiers. Given that Giddings has conceded defeat, at what stage do we add Hodgman as the Premier-elect, prior to him being sworn-in by the Governor? Rangasyd (talk) 12:37, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

The template is Premiers of ... We don't add his name until he is sworn in. If New Zealand invades Tasmania tonight, Giddings will still be in control. WWGB (talk) 12:39, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Yet Peter Cosgrove is added as a designate on the Governors-General of Australia template. If the Maoris invaded, Bryce would sign the declaration of war. Please explain? Rangasyd (talk) 12:51, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Cosgrove compliments Bryce, he does not replace her (yet). It is a legal fact that Giddings is still the Premier of Tasmania, and the template must reflect that fact until Hodgman is sworn in. WWGB (talk) 12:56, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: see also

Hi, as far as I know I created the see also section for the flight, which consisted of Malaysia Airlines Flight 653, which was removed due to my frailer to cite relevance. Firstly, many articles in the see also section for aviation accidents do not cite any relevance at all, as the connection will be evident once viewed. However, if you wish for there to be a description, I am happy to suggest "hijacked and subsequently crashed en rote to Kuala Lumpur in 1977." I would be delighted to hear your response! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aardwolf Nirvana (talk • contribs) 02:05, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

I have restored the "see also" but I suspect another editor is likely to challenge its relevance. WWGB (talk) 02:53, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I've noticed. I also added a section on the main article's talk page suggesting that a see also section should be maintained, so I'll see what will happen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aardwolf Nirvana (talk • contribs) 03:17, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Deaths task force

We should have a "Deaths in..." task force and give temporary blocks to those repeat offenders who don't comply, even if that means the page would be nearly empty. Not bans, just blocks.

And then I woke up. — Wyliepedia 13:21, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Schools

Schools are explicitly exempt from A7; in the case of elementary schools, unless there's some reason to believe they're likely to be notable, just redirect them to their parent school board. Cheers, WilyD 11:03, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I forgot. WWGB (talk) 11:06, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

No worries. Actually, for that particular school board, on doit parler francais pour le trouver, so it was a bit tricky anyhow. WilyD 11:10, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

VV Oosterhout

Greetings, regarding the recent speedy deletion of VV Oosterhout, can you explain to me why the VV Oosterhout article was deleted? This is a football club in the Netherlands who have been competing in professional and amateur leagues since 1927. They currently compete in the Derde Klasse, (the 5th tier in Dutch football) and are arguably the most successful club in Oosterhout, along with maybe SCO/TOFS. If possible I would like to ask to have the article reinstated since I was not finished with it. I had to put it down briefly, but I added links to credible sources that it is in fact a club with a degree of coverage in Dutch print media. I look forward to your response. Best regards, (Subzzee (talk) 20:56, 22 March 2014 (UTC))

Azman Shah

Better check that last name...he was a member of the Shah dynasty from Malaysia/Indonesia...dont think its an A because its of Indonesian descent not Chinese.Sunnydoo (talk) 03:42, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Got a link...I had it under "S" but I really dont know. His full name was Tengku Azman Shah Sultan Hishamuddin Alam Shah. Here is the link . The Wiki link to the Shah dynasty is here- . When I see that many names in a row generation to generation usually its the family name and not a first name like in Saudi Arabia. Just saying, cause I really dont know on this one.Sunnydoo (talk) 08:11, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

And the other issue outside of the family name is Tengku is a Title for the Malay which means Prince. That should proceed his name as we do for the Arabians, etc. It is not like Datuk.Sunnydoo (talk) 08:17, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Per Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Malaysia-related articles#Malay names, titles should be included in the article title and per Category:Monarchs of Selangor the Selangor royals are alphabetised by their given name, and not by Shah (which they all share). Hence I think the list name should be Tengku Azman Shah, listed under "A" (which I recall is the current position). WWGB (talk) 10:57, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

That's very confusing as it looks like the names from the Category are the same ones on the regular Dynasty page which I linked in the parenthesis. And half of those have Shah and the other half dont. Very strange. I wish we had a regular Malay person on here that could sort this out. Will just leave as is for right now.Sunnydoo (talk) 11:51, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Dave Brockie Death tag

Hey WWGB, I noticed you removed the recent death tag from the Oderus Urungus page - and while I do agree with your edit summary, this page is the only real Misplaced Pages page for Dave Brockie, which is why I inserted the recent death tag. I am going to insert it back in shortly as the full details of his death are not known, therefore I believe it is appropriate to leave the tag there. Please reply back if there are any issues. Cheers. ◄Sandshark23► talk♦contribs 11:28, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Jon Ewing at DI2014

I added his middle name because there's an American with one mention in the Wikiworld at Scenes from a Movie. Not that either will probably ever have an article, but the actor has won two awards for his work and would be a more primary topic. That's all. — Wyliepedia 12:12, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Auxiliary Bishop

You are going to make several people upset with that ruling. An Auxiliary Bishop is every bit of a Bishop as a regular one. Many times they are assigned to help run a Diocese, especially if the regular Diocesean Bishop is in-firmed. They have equal authority within the Church. see Auxiliary Bishop.Sunnydoo (talk) 12:44, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

WP:CLERGY states that "bishops of major denominations are usually notable". I see nothing there to extend the recognition to auxiliary bishops. The second banana is never the top banana. WWGB (talk) 12:53, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

They arent second banana. A Bishop is a Bishop. They are equal in standing. One just has a permanently assigned location, the other is still a Bishop who is assigned to the Home Office if you will. He doesnt answer to the other Bishop but to the Archbishop of the Diocese. And I just dont want Noel and RFD to get bent out of shape, they do a lot of good wiki'ing. That is why I am bringing it up. They both had a hand in getting him straightened out this morning.Sunnydoo (talk) 13:03, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

And the link you provided for Bishop...has Auxiliary Bishop in it. You just may not see it as it is in a strange place. Look between Coadjutor and Titular...someone should clean up that article to be alphabetical.Sunnydoo (talk) 13:05, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

And one last note, if you follow the links to outside sources where it is explained (albeit convolutedly), auxiliary bishops fall into the titular bishop category which describes where their power comes from. A seeded Bishop has his authority from the jurisdiction, but a titular/auxiliary/coadjutor bishop has his authority derived from the Pope and is acting on his behalf within that jurisdiction. Which kind of explains the 2 lines of authority I was describing earlier. Both answer to the Archbishop but for different reasons.Sunnydoo (talk) 13:47, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Reflinks Checklinks

Hey, I see you're using Reflinks and Checklinks. I just tried Checklinks for the first time... is there an easier way to get Checklinks to add archived versions of the page? When I click Wayback Machine, nothing happens. If I open it in another tab, it defaults to some page without a link. Just curious if you knew. Trying to learn more. Thanks! EvergreenFir (talk) 05:52, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I had forgottem about the Wayback Machine. I think you can only access archived information six months after the archiving, or something like that. If a reference is marked as a dead link, I just look for another source that it still active. That generally works, unless the deceased is rather obscure, or the source is foreign. Regards, WWGB (talk) 06:52, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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Why did you delete my photos in MH370?

I am trying to add a lot of photos of different researching powers in this event, including the major research force, China. But you always delete my photos. There's nothing about balancing, because when you only have an US Frigate on that page, that's real unbalance. By the way, the link of Chinese icebreaker "Xuelong" is invalid because it hasn't been created yet, so I have to add the picture in MH370 article.

So could you please re-add the picture or help to create the link of "Xue Long"? Thank you very much!!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxjiang000 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Please start new sections at the end of the talk page.

We don't need "a lot of photos". That is merely decoration. There is currently one photo of a Chinese search plane and that is adequate. The photos you added were not even taken in the search area. We all know what a ship looks like. WWGB (talk) 00:22, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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I put a note up on his board.

Some of these deaths I didnt change the references but I had listed as the CoDs like I do. Sometimes the CoD article isnt as good as the main article. That Irish TD was one of those cases. He didnt check all of this stuff and complications needs to be used in the case of strokes when they dont die immediately. Swelling or infections are usually the culprit not the event itself.Sunnydoo (talk) 01:11, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

From not for

Dear WWGB, in reference to Jeremiah Denton, the late Senator from Alabama can you please in your oversight and wisdom set recird straight that a United States Senator is referred to as from not fir, as can be found in almost every related wiki bio.Masterknighted (talk) 04:03, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm SmileBlueJay97. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, N b jattan, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.  SmileBlueJay97  talk  13:35, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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Please be aware that you're editing the Norrie May-Welby page using a vandalised version of the page that I reverted. Note that "genderless" was changed by the vandalising user to "woman", e.g. "Known for: Legally woman". You are better off reverting to the pre-vandalism version and then making your improvements, otherwise elements of the vandalism are likely to inadvertently persist. Nsw2042 (talk) 23:22, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

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Simply reverting the IP isn't really productive. I've left a warning about edit-warning, and a note about the language on his talk page. --AussieLegend (✉) 12:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)