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April 10

Creating your Own Misplaced Pages page

I am responsible to create my version of a Misplaced Pages page explaining the concept and theories of intercultural communication. I am aware that this website already has a topic of such sort. Is there a way where I can start from a fresh page and build my own style so there is no plagiarism taken into account during the process? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmatteo051 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, Misplaced Pages doesn't allow multiple articles on a single topic. You're welcome to edit the existing page, but you shouldn't start a new page on Intercultural communication since one already exists. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 00:45, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

If some professor or teacher has given this to you as an assignment, they do not understand at all how we work or what we are for. If this is a "sample piece" as part of a writing job test, you are being ripped off by an unscrupulous (or very clueless; or both) "employer". --Orange Mike | Talk 04:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Federalist Papers, Request

I have a request for the Federalist Papers section of Misplaced Pages. Currently most Federalist paper pages have a summary, synopsis or the like which I still believe it is good given the ability to look back and see how they were viewed and received. Also for a person who just wants to get the gist of the document without reading the entire document. Some papers pages have a link to a photograph of the paper in question which is grainy and hard to read. I suggest a transcribed version of each document, word for word, so a person wanting to read the exact words written on the subject by our founding fathers is available to anyone coming to that certain page.

• Federalist No. 1
• Federalist No. 10
• File:The Federalist (Ford).djvu— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.69.40 (talk) 00:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Is this what you want? I believe it's the Federalist papers on Wikisource CTF83! 00:48, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

software Engineering

the effort and cost required to build the software.Use any estimation technique? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.66.180.227 (talk) 03:30, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Please do your own homework.
Welcome to the Misplaced Pages Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here not to do others' homework, but merely to aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Misplaced Pages or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Misplaced Pages. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:46, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Fraudulent Misplaced Pages article about a 'Daniell Family'

Hello, I have recently joined Misplaced Pages and have been reading Misplaced Pages articles about a lot of families on Misplaced Pages (I am interested in family histories).

I came across an article about a so called " Daniell Family " . This article does not seem to make sense at all as most information mentioned is not linked to the subject of the article and none of the sources listed are referring to this "Daniell family". I cannot find any further information about the notability or importance of this family on the internet either.

When I looked at the history of this article, I came across several Misplaced Pages accounts all created on the 9th of April and all of them have similar editing patterns on their talk pages. It seems like they are sockpuppets.

I am very worried about this article, as somebody might be creating an article about their own family, making them seem more important/notable than they really are. I have a feeling this article might turn into something serious or fraudulent, as this article claims links with famous important families and institutions, such as the Rockefeller family and Harvard University, when there are no legitimate sources anywhere confirming any link with anybody or anything mentioned in this article.

Furthermore, this article vaguely mentions links to two English painters, but I cannot find any confirmation anywhere about the links with these painters.

I would appreciate it if an experienced editor would seriously take a look at the accounts editing this page and consider deleting the article. Thanks--OhioJack (talk) 04:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

It certainly looks a little suspicious, as you say - I'll look into it further. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:07, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

It looks like large portions of information and the sources have been copied from the article about the Rockefeller family.--OhioJack (talk) 05:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

In the Family residences section, they have not even bothered to edit "Rockefeller" to "Daniell". This hoax article should be deleted. Maproom (talk) 06:05, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Note: Article has been deemed a hoax and tagged for speedy deletion. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:12, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I've deleted the article and restored the legitimate redirect that used to be at that title. Graham87 07:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

redirected page

I have been drafting an article but it now has a redirect that the page has been renamed/moved. I cant find the page and I cannot draft another version because it takes me back to the same redirect page. I cannot make sense of the instructions and do not know why this has happened. Help please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fulhamoldboy (talk • contribs) 05:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to the help desk. Your draft was previously located at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Nigel Randell Evans, which now redirects to Draft:Nigel Randell Evans. This is where your draft is located. Your draft was moved into the "Draft:" namespace as that is the preferred location for article drafts. Hope this helps, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

You can use the "contributions" link at the very top of the page (as well as in your signature and other places) to find out where you have edited. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Is posting the raw translation of articles acceptable, or should I format them?

I plan on using Duolingo to mass translate a bunch of articles. I find articles that need translations, and then I have the community translate them.

Usually, I'd get the translation, and then format it myself. This, however, takes a lot of my time and I'd prefer not spending all day formatting articles.

I was thinking, would it be acceptable if I just posted the raw translation without the formatting, and leave it to the community to format?

For example, here is an original translation: Federalist Papers

And here is what a raw translation would look like: User:The Red Rat Writer/sandbox

I ask this, because I've noticed that the community helps out with the articles by adding link to them and whatont. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Red Rat Writer (talk • contribs) 08:01, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I am having difficulty understanding your question. When you write "the community", do you refer to the community of Misplaced Pages editors? My guess is that you are proposing to create machine-translated articles, in the hope that other Misplaced Pages editors will then do the rest of the work. If I am right, it would help to see a specimen machine-translated example. The example you have given of a "raw translation" is not translated at all, it is in Spanish. Maproom (talk) 08:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

– and your example of an "original translation" was created in English, as one might expect of an article concerning the creation of the US constitution. Maproom (talk) 09:09, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

For advice on translating from other languages into English, see Misplaced Pages:Translation. For advice on translating from other languages into English, also see Misplaced Pages:Translate us. Please note that Misplaced Pages:Translation says "Misplaced Pages consensus is that an unedited machine translation, left as a Misplaced Pages article, is worse than nothing." --David Biddulph (talk) 09:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I apologize, I mean community as the Duolingo Community (https://www.duolingo.com/), and 'original translation' was supposed to be 'original article'. The sandbox page I linked to is the actual translation. I meant format as in titles, boxes, rows, references and general organization.The Red Rat Writer (talk) 14:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC)The Red Rat Writer

This is a potential copyright issue. When the members of the duolingo community translate something, each contributor hold the copyright to their share of the translation. Unless duolingo has somehow arranged to have the finished work licensed under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License or some other license that is compatible with Misplaced Pages, we can't use it. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:38, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Timeline errors

Could someone fix the errors in User:Tomcat7/Sandbox1? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 10:01, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

The syntax required is described at Help:EasyTimeline syntax, but (for the first error at least) the error message is self-explanatory. The error message says "Period attribute 'from' invalid. Specify year >= 1800." because Help:EasyTimeline syntax#DateFormat tells you that "this format is only allowed for dates starting from 01/01/1800" and you had tried to use "01/01/1700". --David Biddulph (talk) 10:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Is there a timeline that accepts years before 1800? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 10:30, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Can i merge these accounts?

I have a uncompleted global ccount named "Manedwolf" (My main wiki user page). There are three acounts named "Manedwolf" too in english, spanish and commons, which aren't active since 2005, 2007 and 2007 respectivly, from what i saw in the user contribution and talk pages.
Is it possible to merge these all or merge the accounts named "Dorhi" with "Manedwolf? – Dorhi (talk) 12:20, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

see WP:USURP. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:26, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Look at the 2nd note under "Notes". Is it refers to my en.wiki account (which is not active) or to my main account (which is constantly active)?--Dorhi (talk) 12:36, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

No problem there. In your case of wanting to unify Manedwolf, it either doesn't apply at all, or it applies to the Manedwolf account at other wikis. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Primary and secondary source

I haven't edited Misplaced Pages for a long time, so:

For example, if I write in the article Captain America 2 "Website A says this movie will have a sequel", should I cite it to A, or to another source B that says the same information? If I cite it to A, is A considered primary source or secondary source?

Are there any diff if I only write "This movie will have a sequel" and cite it to A?--Lê _{talk-contributions} 13:09, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Primary sources are sources which do not provide analysis or context for information. Primary sources are raw data. For example, census records or birth certificates are primary sources. They provide no context. Secondary sources are sources where people research primary sources and the provide analysis and context for those sources. For example, a book where someone has gone through census records and produced statements about demographic trends based on those census records. Misplaced Pages accepts both equally fine, so neither is a problem. However, you cannot provide your own analysis cited to a primary source. You cannot, say, cite the U.S. census and then say something like "So-and-so live in blighted areas" based on that. You need to find someone else who has reached that conclusion. The issue is not whether a source is primary or secondary source, the issue is that you cannot go beyond what the source directly says in Misplaced Pages. A reliable source is reliable. If you have a good, reliable source for information about a sequel, for example if the producers of the movie have themselves said that they plan to produce a sequel, then go with that. If the source is "Unconfirmed reports say..." and it appears on Joe Schmoe's Movie Blog, then no, that isn't reliable. --Jayron32 16:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Support needed on article "Hochtief"

Hi there, We left a longer piece on the "talk" page of our company`s entry "Hochtief" as the article has to be updated. Unfortunately we have the impression that there is not much traffic on the talk page. No one seems to feel "responsible" for reviewing and perhaps editing. As there are several things outdated or wrong, we would like to ask for support. We cannot do it on our own as we are the company described. Please help. Thank you Kind regards CG at Hochtief Corporate Press Department 13:17, 10 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christian Gerhardus at Hochtief (talk • contribs)

Hello, if it is likely that you won't get a response on the talk page, there are always active editors available for help and also in your time zone. Regarding the article about the organization, you might also get help here; Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Companies. It is recommended that you explain on the relevant talk or help page specifically what is outdated or wrong, and what information to add, to help an editor quickly understand what you need.-- Fauzan _{✉ email} 14:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Thank you for not editing the article directly – as you are aware, this would involve a conflict of interest. If corrections and updates are needed to the page, please provide details on the article's talk page, preferably with references. What you have done is to provide five screenfuls of text, translated from German Misplaced Pages, with the formatting lost – possibly the changes you want made can be deduced by comparing this with the current article, but I, for one, am not going to bother reading through it in the hope of finding out what it is you want corrected. Maproom (talk) 14:35, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

references

Can someone help me out on how to reference thi sources on wikipedia? 1. Abang Njuosi (ed) (2008) Kom Folktales. Vol. 1 2. www.wikipedia.org/warren m. robbins

Here's my article:

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnshing (talk • contribs) 15:31, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

This isn't the place for an article's text, so I've collapsed it. All you need to do is to provide a wikilink, in this case to Afo-A-Kom. In your version you had an error message which said "Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist}} template (see the help page).", and in that message the words " help page " were in blue, indicating that they are a wikilink to specific help on your problem, in this case at Help:Cite errors/Cite error refs without references. I have corrected that error for you, but for further information on referencing you should read WP:Referencing for beginners, and you should also read about bare urls.

One of the things which you were trying to use as a reference was "www.wikipedia.org/warren m. robbins". There are a number of problem with that:

• Firstly for links to Misplaced Pages we don't quote a URL like "www.wikipedia.org/warren m. robbins", but instead we give a wikilink like Warren M. Robbins, and please note that the titles of Misplaced Pages pages are case-sensitive.
• Secondly wikis (including Misplaced Pages) can not be used as reliable sources for references, for reasons given at WP:USERG. I have therefore removed that from the references, but included a wikilink to Warren M. Robbins when you mentioned him in the text.

Other editors will look at your article and decide whether it satisfies Misplaced Pages's requirements, particularly for demonstration of notability. I have added some useful links to your user talk page, and one particular one which you should read is WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:02, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I have made some stylistic and formatting changes. Given its history, it's probably a notable subject, but it desperately needs more sources. I don't have time to research further.--ukexpat (talk) 17:00, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Draft:Swetha Warrier

Reference help requested. Sir, 'Swetha Warrier' was my first article and I didn't fully know the technicalities of creating an article. After I saved the page, an error has been reported about a reference list being missing. I don't know how to edit it further. Kindly help me out. Thanks a lot. Thanks, Wsarath (talk) 16:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

The duplication of text was causing the error. I have removed that text which has fixed the problem.--ukexpat (talk) 16:32, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Longest article titles

Does WP list the longest titles of articles? If not, how would you go about finding the longest article title? How about this one:

• An act to specify the size of the precious-metal blanks that will be used in the production of the National Baseball Hall of Fame commemorative coins

A follow up question: Is this even an appropriate name for an article? Rgrds. --64.85.217.151 (talk) 16:30, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Most Bills and Acts have short titles, such as Patriot Act and those are the ones we use, per WP:COMMONNAME.--ukexpat (talk) 16:34, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

See WP:RECORDS#Article with longest title. --Glaisher 16:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I am helping host a global event to update wikipedia contact on behalf of my organization

I was interested to see if there was anybody from Misplaced Pages in the New York/New Jersey area that could be made available on site to help us in case we have questions.

My contact details are: Miles Dolphin - 212-526-1833 (email: miles.dolphin@barclayscapital.com)

this would be for June 12th. - Miles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miles dolphin (talk • contribs) 17:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Others reading this should also check out Misplaced Pages:Barclays edit-a-thon (which I found from Miles' contribs) which has some more information. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:46, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Randor1980

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Randor1980 has been trolling many pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Efkwoherfpiowuehrf (talk • contribs) 18:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Help wanted with a disagreeable article

Dear editors: I rescued THIS ARTICLE some time ago from the G13 deletion pile, and just now got around to checking to see if I could improve it with reliable sources. Unfortunately, I have a very low tolerance for explicit language. I am looking for someone with a tougher skin to take an interest in this and either pronounce it non-notable or fix it up. I don't want to reject it because I find the references personally distasteful. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

It fails WP:NMUSIC and also falls afoul of WP:NOTINHERITED. The only "new" reliable source I could dig up is a Huffington Post article about the Observer article. I'd say throw this fish back; it's just too small. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:17, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to check this out. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:40, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Adding images to a category

How can a file be added to a category? I would like to add File:Kafka portrait.jpg to Category:20th-century writers. Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 19:13, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

The file on Commons is already in Commons commons:Category:Franz Kafka so any new cat should be added to that category. In fact that category should probably be added to one of the country specific Commons "20th-century writers" categories.--ukexpat (talk) 19:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Forgot to add that the easiest way to add categories is the HotCat gadget that you can enable in your Preferences --> Gadgets.--ukexpat (talk) 20:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Help

Thanks, I'm just a student and I have to ask or prepare questions about the topic loanwords. The name of the book is read up on contents areas by Build & Grow. Please help, I'm dying 190.154.115.2 (talk) 19:18, 10 April 2014 (UTC)Ricky

I'm sorry you're dying, but I haven't a clue what you are asking for, or why you are asking it on the Misplaced Pages help desk (which is for questions about editing Misplaced Pages. It's possible you can get some help on the Misplaced Pages reference desk (Specifically the language reference desk if the question is about loanwords), but if you post it there you'd better be much clearer what you are asking for and what you have done on your homework so far. --ColinFine (talk) 22:50, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Need help removing Reads like an Advertisement alert at top of page

Hi, I am editing a page (that is about the man and company I work for) and I am trying to remove the alert at the top of the page. The page title is Adrian Ballinger. It says the page reads like and advertisement and also that it might contain faulty external links. However, I have edited it to remove unnecessary info and links and I have written it as best I can from a neutral point of view. The alert is still at the top of the page. Does it take time for this alert to be removed or am I not editing the Adrian Ballinger page properly? Your help will be much appreciated. Thank you - B — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpenren (talk • contribs) 20:55, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

To editor Alpenren: People are discouraged from editing articles about subjects with which they are affiliated; this presents a conflict of interest. You should propose any further changes as well as a review of the advertising issue on the talk page at Talk:Adrian Ballinger. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I have made it read a bit less like an advert, by deleting some puffery, and removing all the invalid references (the ones which just led to a domain, not to an article which mentioned Ballinger). The article is now short of references. If you can add some valid references, to actual articles which mention Ballinger, it may help. Maproom (talk) 22:22, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Alpenren. Tags like that are inserted and removed manually, by editors who think it is appropriate to add or remove one. Normally, if you think that a tag is no longer appropriate, you are welcome to remove it; but as Anon126 explained, you are strongly discouraged from editing that article because of your conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 22:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

The twelve visions party.

I need to send out a message concerning the deletion of TVP page on Misplaced Pages. Can you help me?

Sincerely Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.54.14.96 (talk) 21:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

What kind of message are you hoping to send out about Twelve Visions Party and to whom? If your question is about contacting a particular user, you can do so at their talk page.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Help Editing a Page

Hello, wondering if someone can help me.

I've been trying to update a wiki page, and have found a number of different articles relating to the topic and used these as references within the updates. Everytime I update the article I receive a message from a user advising that I have uploading promotional or advertising material and they delete my updates which is extremely frustrating.

The updates I'm making are from third party articles, non of which is trying to promote or advertise on the page but rather provide factual information.

Please advise what I can do to ensure the updates remain on the page.

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shayle1 (talk • contribs) 23:12, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Shayle1: Your additions to Fetch TV kind of come off as a catalog entry, which is something Misplaced Pages doesn't do; see WP:NOTCATALOG - Purplewowies (talk) 23:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

You may also want to look at Misplaced Pages:Referencing for beginners and WP:RS. - Purplewowies (talk) 23:28, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for the update. I had quite a few references included all of which were third party. It was a factual overview of the product. The page that was there before I ended it was actual the same format, however the information included was inaccurate so I was trying to fix those. As a result half of the page has been deleted.

Is there anything else I can do?

Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shayle1 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

The first thing I would recommend is coming to the understanding that Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and not a free promotional web page about a company and its products. And then read up about what Misplaced Pages considers a reliably published source. And then when you find sources that meet the criteria, present the content in a non promotional manner, representing both the positive aspects and negative views of the subject. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

User:TheRedPenOfDoom The information I have included in my updates is not used in a promotional context. It is explaining in detail what the page is about. I have researched it and made multiple third party references - all of which meet the Wiki criteria. The references do also show comparisons between other similar services, pointing out the positive and negative aspects. This page originally had inaccurate information and I am just trying to fix that. People should be reading correct information, so I can't understand why someone would be deleting this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shayle1 (talk • contribs) 06:57, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

When I looked, I saw a Tumblr page being used as a source. Those aren't generally considered reliable. That doesn't speak to the reliability of other sources. In addition, one of the pages I linked you to expressly states why comparisions might be considered a bad thing in encyclopedic context. It may be useful to point out characteristics of a product or thing, but it must be done from an encyclopedic standpoint. - Purplewowies (talk) 13:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

April 11

Photo

Please tell me why my uploaded photo ( File:The_Tridels_2014.jpg )is not appearing in my article on The Tridels. All I'am getting is a box with the caption, no photo. I placed the proper link

even uploaded the photo again with a different title...no joy. Could really use someone's help on this. Help Me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.92.183 (talk) 02:47, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

You placed a space between the end dot and jpg. Try ] which results in the image to the left (yours will appear on the right). - Purplewowies (talk) 03:15, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm a senior interested in using public transportation

Where can I get DETAILED information about using MetroLink and AMTRAK. I have not used public transportation in 55 years. I'm thinking about going to Camarillo, Ventura, Oxnard and Santa Barbara. And, San Francisco (Bay Area.) I have no idea on what to do first. I live in Culver City. Thanks for any information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.4.202 (talk) 02:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Misplaced Pages itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:06, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Going beyond that, you may want to start at the official Amtrak and Metrolink websites. You should be able to find the most reliable and up to date information about routes, tickets, etc. at these sites. Misplaced Pages does have limited coverage of routes (i.e. List of Amtrak routes and Metrolink (Southern California)) which you may also find helpful, though you should rely on the official websites and schedules for the most recent and reliable information. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 03:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Creating Misplaced Pages Page for my college

Hi this is shiva,

I am working in Thiagaraja school of management in Madurai as a Chair Placement/Corporate Relations.We are a 52 year old Institute and the oldest B school in South India.Currently we are planning to create a Misplaced Pages page for our school which would help us to create more awareness about our brand.So please do help us in creating a wikipedia page for our College.

Regards Shivaraj — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.31.248 (talk) 05:30, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Shivaraj. The first thing you should do is read about conflict of interest, and understand why you should not directly work on an article about your college. The second is to read WP:PROMOTION, to understand that to "create more awareness about our brand" is something that is absolutely and completely forbidden on Misplaced Pages.

Then, if you still want to go ahead, you should collect reliable sources (such as major newspapers, or books from reliable publishers) that are unconnected with the college and say something substantial about the college. If you can find such sources, then the college passes Misplaced Pages's test for 'notability', and you can either request an article at Requested articles, or try writing one yourself, and getting it reviewed, by the Articles for creation process. --ColinFine (talk) 08:45, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit attempts rejected

Hi,

I'm marketing Manager at MACH Sarl which has been acquired by Starhome which is now Starhome Mach. All my attempts to update the MACH Sarl page MACH S.a.r.L to reflect the acquisition and other changes have been rejected.

Please let me know the best way to proceed.

Best regards

Chabha Djouder — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.7.12.58 (talk) 09:47, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

It's clearly an advertisement you're adding. "Starhome MACH’s combined strength brings...", "STARHOME MACH continues to address and anticipate the challenges...", "they are designed to meet your challenges head on", etc. First you shouldn't really edit the article based on conflict of interest. If you do, you must adhere to strict neutral point of view. CTF83! 09:56, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Maybe add neutral material backed by disinterested, reliable sources. By contrast, here's an example of what you added but was, rightly, then deleted:

Starhome MACH’s combined strength brings to market a unified set of solutions that provides one place to manage your wholesale and retail business, simplifying the life of the roaming department, whilst driving more business value from the roaming network. The company has a wide range of network and cloud-based solutions wrapped with complete business intelligence and business management.

Even better, don't add any material at all. Instead, make suggestions on the talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 10:03, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

What to do about sockpuppets' edits?

(I couldn't find a really suitable noticeboard or village pump section for this question, so please tell me if I'm in the wrong place.) Is there any consensus about edits made by a sockpuppet of a blocked user? Do you revert them, revert unless they add something very good, or does it vary from case to case? There's a persistent sockmaster, Samima khatun, that uses socks to add low-quality text to some specific articles. I have seen editors remove text for the only reason that it was made by a sock of a banned user, but I'm not sure if that's according to the English Misplaced Pages consensus. Sjö (talk) 10:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Edits of banned users made in contravention of their ban, when discovered, are routinely reverted because banned editors are not allowed to edit by decision of the community. However, there is nothing to stop another editor restoring the material if they consider it good material, but they are then taking responsibility for it themselves and should be prepared to answer any challenge on verifiability etc. Edits made by a banned editor prior to their ban are not reverted merely because the user has been banned, but this may happen if there is a good reason for doing so (edits are disruptive, dubious verifiability, POV etc), it is then for the reverting editor to justify their revert. Blocked editors are in a somewhat different category. Editors are blocked in order to protect the encyclopaedia from some behaviour of that editor. If you discover a sock of a blocked editor you may be justified in reverting their edits if they are continuing with the same behaviour that led to their block. But then, you would probably be justified in reverting the edits even if you did not know it was a sock; it depends on the material. You would probably be better off taking the issue to the blocking admin and letting them deal with it. SpinningSpark 13:33, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Slight question to determine meaning: Are we talking about blocking or a topic or global ban? - Purplewowies (talk) 21:32, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

The user in question is blocked. The user name is not on Misplaced Pages:List of banned users, nor is there anything on the user page or user talk that says that he or she is banned. Sjö (talk) 11:46, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Is there a FAQ project for the WP:RD?

Hello everybody, I noticed the FAQ button on the Help desk. Is there any effort to archive frequently asked Reference desk questions, other than the automatic archives, which collect all questions? (I'm not suggesting to replace the "Search RD archives" button, just to give another means of accessing the topics.)

If not, would it be a WP:BADIDEA, in the sense that it would violate one of the WP:rules? If it's not a bad idea, what would the WP veterans think about it? Should it go into a certain namespace? For example, would User:One.Ouch.Zero/RDFAQ be appropriate for an index, or would it imply too much WP:OWNership? - ¡Ouch! ( / _{more pain}) 10:59, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

It seems Misplaced Pages talk:Reference desk would be a better place to discuss this. You can also search for FAQ there. It shows there are old unmaintained pages at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/FAQ and Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Language/FAQs. WP:FAQ is a general FAQ for Misplaced Pages and not associated with the help desk. {{Help pages header}} is also transcluded on Misplaced Pages:Reference desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

BTFW, I totally forgot about the "Wikipedia_talk" namespace. Bummer. Wow, thanks, that's about what I wanted to start. WP:ICANTBELIEVETHATFAQWASDISCONTINUED5YEARSAGO. - ¡Ouch! ( / _{more pain}) 12:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Cape Elise

On behalf of the managers of the M/V Cape Elise, Empire Bulkers Limited: Reference is made to your section concerning very large bulk carriers (Capes) and the fact that you have published a digital picture with respect to the vessel under our management “Cape Elise” and certain comments concerning necessary repairs carried out, following an unfortunate marine incident. We consider that these actions cause unnecessary, negative publicity and should be avoided.

As Managers of the vessel in question, we kindly ask you to remove the said picture and the comments made completely. Should you wish to upload a different picture of the vessel in question and certain related comments, please send us your proposal for signing it off. For future reference, please avoid uploading any information and/or documentation and/or digital content of any nature related with the vessels under our management without our express written consent.

Please be guided accordingly. Many thanks.

Our rights are reserved. 83.235.22.241 (talk) 11:30, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Presumably relates to the article: Capesize. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:43, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Firstly, from the tone of your question I advise you to read WP:LEGAL. Having pointed that out, my opinion is that the picture adds little of value to the article, as it's not relevant to the article about the size of ships and there are other pictures demonstrating size. I have therefore been bold and removed it with this edit . CaptRik (talk) 12:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't think this is the place to make a decision over that and have restored the picture. SpinningSpark 12:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) Your request has a very legalistic tone. That's not what we do on this help desk. The purpose of Misplaced Pages is to create an encyclopaedia on all topics. Please explain how your proposed edit helps fulfil that goal. Also, we do not require, nor do we seek, your "sign off" for any aspect of our articles. SpinningSpark 12:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

And no, your "rights are not reserved". As per the notifications in the editing frames, when you pressed "submit" you agreed to release your statement under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License. We do not require and will not ask for your consent.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:59, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you may manage the organization, but the image was taken by someone who uploaded the image by themselves. So, first of all it is not a copyright violation, and does not require consent. You have the right to ask for an image to be removed only if someone copies an image you own or have taken, or if someone took your photograph and uploaded it without consent.

Regarding "publicity", there is nothing positive or negative here on Misplaced Pages. Any information is added to contribute to thee overall content of the article. And definitely, no one is going to consider the incident as something "negative", it is just a piece of information. -- Fauzan _{✉ email} 18:01, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

(after ec) I think the IP is more likely reserving their rights to take legal action elsewhere over the matter rather than trying to circumvent the CC licence. Of course, that will not help them here either. Should they explicitly (or even implicitly) make such a statement then they can no longer be allowed to take part in community discussions per the no legal threats policy. SpinningSpark 18:04, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

new started shoe company

The article that I am writing is about a new started shoe company. I wrote the article and sent it for a review and it got declined because of the references. My references were from their website since all of their references are in different magazines and not online. So my question is: How do I add those print articles as references in my article? Is it possible? Miktry (talk) 12:21, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

To demonstrate notability per WP:CORP, references must be from reliable third party sources, see WP:RS. The company's website is only good for confirming basic, non-controversial facts. I should also add that a new company is very unlikely to have received the significant third party coverage required to meet the notability guidelines.--ukexpat (talk) 12:33, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Hugh Mundell

Reference help requested. I went in to correct a referencing error that I introduced but ended up screwing up other things. Can you help with this? Thanks, Ras2thebone (talk) 12:31, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

When you enter a URL in the {{cite web}} template, it has to have an appropriate prefix, like http:// or https://. You'd missed these out which was why the refs were showing oddly. I've also combined the multiple references to the same source into a single citation (see the page's edit history for the coding), although I have my doubts as to whether that source meets the reliability guidelines.probably okay, actually. Yunshui _水 12:51, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Percy Julian

Wiki

Someone has placed inappropriate verbiage into the " early life" section of chemist Percy Julian's bio. Mr. Julian is being honored today with a Google doodle -please correct as soon as possible. The language states Julian ate ass at an early age. 72.76.208.223 (talk) 14:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

The vandal has been blocked and I've filed a request at WP:RPP. Thanks for your help. James12345 14:53, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

And next time you see something like that, revert it by going into the page's history page, finding the revision you want to revert, going to it by clicking "prev", and clicking on "undo" (you can also click "undo" on the history page if you already know which revision it is). Lugia2453 (talk) 14:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Sónia Matias

Dear Misplaced Pages,

In Portugal when you look for the name "Sónia Matias" you only end up to a soccer player, but there is a female much more famous and known in Portugal that you misses out on.

She also is Sónia Matias, but she´s well known because de became the first female becoming professional in are arte of "cavaleira de toureio" wich in Inglish dosen´t exist, but it´s a kind of bull fight between the horse rider and the bull in the arena. Very famous in Spain, the only Country that in fact kills the bull afterwords.

But she is very famous in Portugal, professional artist, and much more well known the the soccer player Sónia Matias, howcame she dosen´t have no article ou Misplaced Pages?

For any information look at facebook "Sónia Matias"

Thank You

Nuno Guedes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.47.200.99 (talk) 15:08, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

She is briefly mentioned in Portuguese-style bullfighting#Main figures. Misplaced Pages is the 💕 that anyone can edit. Articles are written by volunteers and noone has written an article about her yet but you could. This help desk is for the English Misplaced Pages and I don't know Portuguese but it appears you can request an article at pt:Wikipédia:Artigos pedidos, or write a suggested article at pt:Wikipédia:Guia de edição para anónimos. Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) is the requirement for the English Misplaced Pages but Portuguese may be different. Misplaced Pages languages can have different policies and I don't know the Portuguese Misplaced Pages but you are probably also allowed to create an article directly if you make an account. It's free and easy. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:56, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I found we have a photo of her at commons:File:Sonia Matias.jpg, but it's only used in a low resolution gallery in the Dutch article nl:Lusitano. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:21, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

PERCY JULIAN: Not Included in Misplaced Pages Inventor List

PERCY JULIAN: Google Doodle salutes pioneering chemist as a man utterly in his elements' – Not Included in Misplaced Pages Inventor List

It was refreshing to read about Percy Julian, his accomplishments and contributions to the American Science and Medical fields; and to the world.

The unfortunate reminder about your story, is the constant and continuous shroud of obscurity and anonymity that Black inventors are kept under.

How many White, Asian, Latino, European, tec. Children will go to Misplaced Pages List of inventors to search for inventors, and find no Black inventors listed, not even the late Percy Julian will appear on that list, you have to put in “Black Inventor, and how many people who are Not Black are going to do that:

• Benjamin Banneker – Farmer’s Almanac
• Elijah McCoy – The real McCoy
• Charles Drew – Blood Plasma
• Madam C. J. Walker – First Woman self-made millionaire, any race
• George Washington Carver – Everything Peanut & Soybean
• Garret Morgan – Traffic Lights

And many others!

Let’s stop excluding these Great Americans from their place in history with the rest of the Great American Inventors…

Yvette — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.3.212.100 (talk) 17:24, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

WP:SOFIXIT - this is the encyclopedia anyone can edit.--ukexpat (talk) 17:29, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Are you looking for Percy Lavon Julian? At least, that is where Percy Julian redirects to. SpinningSpark 17:30, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

 Done I have added Percy Lavon Julian to list of inventors.--ukexpat (talk) 17:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Tim Green

The page Tim Green does not look like it has been Edited right. Tim Green — Preceding unsigned comment added by PacoDaKing14Sportz (talk • contribs) 19:00, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I think you'll need to be a bit more specific with what you think is wrong. You can make suggestions at Talk:Tim Green. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:23, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

... or are you talking about the problem which another editor cured in this edit? --David Biddulph (talk) 19:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Photo Upload Problems

Hello, I am trying to upload a photo of Joey Moi to his page. I am his business manager and i would like his wikipedia page to contain images. I joined so that i could upload but was told that I cannot upload the photo until i have 10 edits and four days for verification. I don't have a page that i can make 10 edits to so i'm hoping you'd be able to upload the photo to his page for me or somehow help me get this photo on his page. Thanks Cole — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.121.249.5 (talk) 20:00, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

You can upload it to Wikimedia Commons (a central media repository that Misplaced Pages uses) without having to wait for autoconfirmation (the 4 days/10 edits requirement). You can log in with the same username and password you created on Misplaced Pages. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 20:05, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Cannot Log In But

I've been a contributor for over 8 years and been made a Review Editor. Though my user page is there, I cannot log in using Noles1984. There seems to be no way around it. I just need help logging in. This is strange. I maintain several domains and could put up a very temp email address then delete once I get help. Noles1984 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.230.87.100 (talk) 20:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

What message are you getting? Please check your edit history and verify that your account has not been compromised (your last edit listed is on 23 January). If you have forgotten your password and you have not registered an e-mail address (which you don't appear to have done) then there is not a lot that can be done unless you have taken the precaution of embedding a committed identity on your user page, which also seems not to have been done. Sorry. SpinningSpark 21:28, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Is that true

Dear Sir, I have received an email showing that I won a Lottery held on 15 Mar. 2014 by SHELL PETROLEUM in Collarboration with shell Petroleum Development Company(SPDC) and BRITISH AMERICAN TOBACCO COMPANY. Where I found at bottom of the email a photo showing your company name and some of admin staff. I will be greatful to receive your kind confirmation to clarify if that event was true. Great regards . Senior Architect <personal info redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.50.238.67 (talk) 21:44, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

This is English Misplaced Pages, and we're in no way affiliated to BAT or Shell Oil - nor are they affiliated with each other, and as far as I know neither company runs lotteries. In any case - if you don't remember entering a lottery, you haven't won anything in one. The email is almost certainly a hoax, to try to get you to disclose banking information that can be used against you. Delete the email, and certainly don't reply to its reply address or follow any instructions in it. AlexTiefling (talk) 21:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

It's definitely a lottery scam. A Google search showed many examples with those alleged companies. If you reply to the scammers they will try to trick you into paying an advance fee to get your non-existing prize. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:46, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

My post just got delete??

I made a serious post and somebody did just delete it? How do i get all the things back? Becuase it took a long time to make it all. And i really don't understand why it was taking down? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morten Darving Schlüter (talk • contribs) 23:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

No, your (very short) list of contributions shows that what you wrote above was the first edit by Morten Darving Schlüter in English-language Misplaced Pages. -- Hoary (talk) 23:34, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) This was the first saved edit by your account. The account was created 8 minutes before your post. If this is about an edit made with another account or without logging in then we can only comment if you say which edit or page it was. I see you also posted to User talk:Pixi Uno#My post just got delete?? but User:Pixi Uno has not deleted anything non-trivial in the last month so I'm puzzled. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:38, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

The requirements for having an article are that reliably published third party sources have discussed the subject in depth and that the content be presented in a neutral manner. If your work seriously missed meeting those requirements, it could have been quickly cleaned up by deletion from an administrator. In the future it would probably be best to utilize the articles for creation process where an experienced editor can help guide you to creating something that will meet the basic article requirements and not immediately trigger deletion. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:48, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

The account has no deleted edits and I don't know whether the post is about a page creation or something else. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:30, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Problem with Misplaced Pages:Emailing users

Previously it worked fine - last time I'd used it in late March.

I'd discovered a problem after a letter I sent, I do not received a copy to my e-mail

In recent days, I'd made several checks with different wiki-users' help.

Result: my messegase not received, including and a copy to my e-mail.

Their messeges I do receive, so something not working for me.

Restore all default settings (in all sections) did not help, the result - the same .

What else can I do?

Thank you,--Igorp_lj (talk) 23:41, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

It works for me. Do you get a screen saying "Your e-mail message has been sent"? If "Email me a copy of my message" was selected on the mail form then the copy may have been blocked by a spam filter somewhere, possibly by your mail provider or mail program. It's also possible that the users you tested it with got it blocked by spam filters. Try mailing me with a post saying "Just a test" and nothing else. I just tried that on myself without problems. The more content there is, the bigger risk there may be that a spam filter dislikes something. I have always received Misplaced Pages mail within seconds when I tested it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:58, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I get a screen saying "Your e-mail message has been sent" after all my attempt. Both me & my helpers (say me that they) have checked appropriate spam/junk folder as well. As I wrote above I've used this mail channel without problems till ~ end of March, 2014.

I send you "Just a test" message just now. Thanks, --Igorp_lj (talk) 22:24, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

• "Your e-mail message has been sent.
• You can notify users that you have e-mailed them by leaving them a talk page message. The

template is available for this purpose.

• Return to User:PrimeHunter."

--Igorp_lj (talk) 22:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

I have received two mails from you, the first saying "Just a test" from Igor at 22:22, the second saying No.2 eith "Just a test" subject from Igorp_lj at 22:23. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:56, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Good news for e-wiki! (my ru-wiki correspondens haven't received any my mail)

So only question what remains for e-wiki - why I haven't received a copy to my mail?

Thanks, --Igorp_lj (talk) 23:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Can you try another email service, for example at Comparison of webmail providers? ru-wiki works for me. I sent a mail to my secondary account at ru:Special:EmailUser/PrimeHunter2, and asked for a copy. The mail and the copy both arrived within seconds. The accounts have the same email address. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

As I understand, should change email in my profile, to use another mail provider, what I do not really want at the moment (my global wiki account used the same email address).

I'd already sent you message from you ru-wiki page:

• "Ваше электронное сообщение отправлено. Возврат к странице Участник:PrimeHunter2.

--Igorp_lj (talk) 10:29, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I have received "tedt from ru-wiki". My own email program (Windows Mail in Windows Vista) moved it to a spam folder. This doesn't usually happen for my Misplaced Pages mail. I don't know what triggered the filter. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:44, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

April 12

Editing a page

Hi

I was trying to edit Peter Sellers page. There was a movie missing in the filmography table. I added (The Mouse that Roared) but I believe I missed things up. This is my first time, so I apologize. Please help get the page in the right shape, with the movie I added.

Thank you

Faizlo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.78.126.194 (talk) 00:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Your edits have been reverted. Peter Sellers#Filmography and other works is only for works where he received significant awards or nominations. Your edit only said "Nominated". What was it nominated for? Peter Sellers on stage, radio, screen and record is a longer list and includes the film. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:41, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

John Brown (news anchor)

This is actually an entry about me, but it appears to be broken. I have used it on my web sites to direct people to my biography on Misplaced Pages. Anybody know what happened to the lin?

Thanks,

John Brown — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.90.174.94 (talk) 01:05, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

It's been deleted. Mlpearc (open channel) 01:18, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Or in more detail: on 17 February 2014, "GiantSnowman" (talk page) deleted the article "John Brown (news anchor)", stating "Expired PROD, concern was: zero evidence for notability. His book are each in less than 60 libraries." The deletion had been proposed by DGG (talk page). -- Hoary (talk) 01:21, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

To expand further on what others have said, for somebody who may not be familiar with how Misplaced Pages works: Misplaced Pages is an encyclopaedia, not a directory. It does not list every subject (person, company, record etc) that exists, only those which have already been written about in reliable sources (which is what we mean by "notable" in the special Misplaced Pages sense). It is possible that you have been written about in this way and therefore we could have an article about you, but according to the comment above the deleted article did not establish this. --ColinFine (talk) 08:53, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit summaries question

24.3.8.179 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) makes edits with uninformative edit summaries such as "edit" and "improve". Twice I've posted on their talk page asking them to make more informative edit summaries, and referred them to WP:ES, but this seems to have had no effect. Recently I reverted a few of these edits but it occurs to me now that this was not the most appropriate action, since the edits were made in good faith. I'm just not sure how else to get the point across. Any suggestions? MaxBrowne (talk) 02:22, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Ignore it. It's an IP, so you don't even know if the same person is making all the edits. Also, if they haven't listed to your first 2 posts, what good would a third or fourth do? It's really just a minor issue. CTF83! 02:44, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Nissan maxima 1997

what is the little flashing thing under the seet that has a fuse it is not for the power seats — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.233.130.38 (talk) 07:55, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Misplaced Pages itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25--David Biddulph (talk) 08:00, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Linking within an article does not work on iPhone devices

Hi, I've linked to a section within the same article by using the . It was actually a section within a section (so the ===Heading===). I found that this works when I am using a PC. However, when I use my iPhone the link doesn't do anything. So I made the link the beginning of the section (so the ==Heading==). I find that when I do this, the page does go down to the section (but you can't tell which section because all sections are collapsed). If I then go back to the link and click it, it then goes to the section and opens it up. Is there better syntax to use to avoid these issues. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamgerace (talk • contribs) 09:34, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

The difference is that mobile devices use the mobile version of Misplaced Pages (https://en.m.wikipedia.org). You could probably force your mobile to use the standard version but not really recommended. When I tried a section link in sandbox I found that the I had to click the link twice for both the scenarios you give. The first time jumped to the heading and the second time (have to scroll back up if necessary) openened the section. I don't know whether this is considered a bug or a desirable feature, but you could try reporting it at Bugzilla. SpinningSpark 12:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

By the way, I get exactly the same behaviour on a PC as a mobile device when using the mobile version on a PC. That means you can check the mobile page behaviour/look without leaving your PC. SpinningSpark 12:33, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Conflicting references

I have a specific interest in how low level financial scams are operated and supported. One of the common features seems to be to establish a false reputation by getting a low level news organisation to misquote a fact either deliberately, or by not correcting editorial, and then reference the hell out of it to other news organisations until it becomes real. As a example company x is approved by the FSA in the UK, person Y is also the owner of a major foreign organisation, Bank Z is a major backer behind this company. These "facts" then get repeated by the multiple wordress blogs set up to enable these scams and eventually get referenced into a wikipedia article which is the first site that comes up when the person being scammed is searching for the company as they sit in a hotel seminar.

My question is about how do wikipedia editors rate references. Clearly they are not all equal. What if they conflict ? I can contact the UK FSA and ask if company A is approved but Misplaced Pages wont accept that information without a reference. Since most articles are directly or indirectly paid for most papers wont issue corrections. If I put a message on my blog saying that company A is not FSA approved is any editor going to consider that over 16 blogs and two articles that say it is ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stfual (talk • contribs) 11:38, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

We base our content upon reliably published sources, and weighting the content based upon their acceptance levels in mainstream academia. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:29, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

We have a noticeboard for getting advice on the reliabiltiy of specific sources. SpinningSpark 12:37, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Such is the theory, and to some degree it is practiced that way, but our discipline is seldom better than that of the news sources we cite. Perhaps someone should make a concerted effort to check such things with the official websites of the approving authorities. Jim.henderson (talk) 12:50, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Webpage

Can you tell me how to set up a web page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frtwat73 (talk • contribs) 16:32, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

To editor Frtwat73:

Have you tried the Computing section of Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Misplaced Pages. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38

But since we're here, I personally recommend W3Schools to start. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 17:15, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

And if you are talking about a Misplaced Pages article, please look at WP:YFA. Just note that we are an encyclopedia and not a webhost if that was your aim. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:09, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Finding all the news in a particular month and year

I read a post Here about find news in a particular month and year. But I can't decipher the form. Is this possible and how exactly? 76.126.254.251 (talk) 17:54, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Just type it into the search box. For example, to find news from last month, type in March 2014. This leads to an article with major events. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 18:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

'Autobiography'

I want to start a page about myself. This is only because of individuals who have wikipedia pages, that have inaccurate, libelous and unlawful information relative to myself. Editing those pages is one option. Creating my own is an easier, workable alternative. It is easy to understand and then respect wikipedia's rules as clearly stated. My FINDINGS stem from documentary evidence, and I see no point in any claims stemming from anything else.

I am one of the first human beings subjected to the rare cybernetic process, the deliberation of the human body, by another individual's means. In encyclopedic, incidental terms, this includes the need to rectify probably deviant falsehood published on this website. The presentation of the uniqueness of the circumstance elsewhere, is provided for.

My circumstance consists of evidence on a par with the presented. I consider an encyclopedic inclusion inevitable. I am a VICTIM of opinion as fact, and I have not tried to create a page about myself. I would like step-by-step advice on how to proceed.Graeme John Hunter Ford (talk) 17:55, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

To editor Graeme John Hunter Ford: Writing an autobiograpghy is highly discouraged. If you have a concern about information about you in an article, you can raise it on the associated talk page (click the "Talk" tab at the top.) Anon126 (talk - contribs) 18:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Look particularly at the section Problems in an article about you. --ColinFine (talk) 10:44, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit .js page

I want to add a module to my js page: User:Sphilbrick/vector.js

However, when I click edit, I briefly see the contents (with line numbers added) then it disappears.

Am I missing something?--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:12, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Do you use User:Cacycle/wikEd gadget? Ruslik_Zero 19:45, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Do I need to remove it or turn it off?--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:09, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Turning it off helped, thanks.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:12, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Launching Misplaced Pages Page about Someone

How should I start or publish wikipedia page about someone? For instance, I would want to get my own wikipedia page describing details/ biography about me. Whom should I contact?

Thanks for your time and hope to get replied. Regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raaboi (talk • contribs) 20:08, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

See WP:Notability (people). If your accomplishments are not significantly covered by independent, reliable sources, your time will be wasted, and the article deleted. If they are, you needn't contact anyone, though the article wizard will be helpful for your first time. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:47, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Also, we do not recommend writing autobiographies. SpinningSpark 23:34, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd thought about saying that, but there's not much harm in it, unless the autobiographer tries to own the article and flatter themselves. Still yes, there's a conflict of interest page to consider. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:20, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

The guidance, for the benefit of the OP, is at Misplaced Pages:Autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Looking that over, it seems that if one avoids all three fundamental problems while writing an autobiography, it should be fine. Same as drunk driving. It's only bad if you hurt someone. Often not the case, but there is a tendency. Same here, Raaboi. You may not think you're as biased as you are. So be careful, if you insist on driving yourself. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:06, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Are acrostics subject to the same rules as straight text?

For instance, if the first letter of four paragraphs spelled out "evil" in a priest's bio, or "liar" in a politician's, could that be construed as a POV, OR or BLP fail, and would that be valid grounds for rewording, assuming the paragraphs are otherwise better written as is? Or are hidden messages (intentional or not) beyond the scope? InedibleHulk (talk) 20:43, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, absolutely (though I wouldn't use OR in relation as not quite the right fit, but NPOV and BLP are certainly relevant, as might be hidden/sneaky vandalism, and maybe WP:POINT). That hidden message is information made part of the article, a personal opinion inserted and in a sub rosa way. A secondary wag the tail concern is that obviously the text had to be written for the purpose of shoehorning that hidden message, so whatever surrounding text was used to spell out the midden message was not fashioned to be the best text for the topic, but to meet the hidden agenda. Anyway, my advice is to remove with extreme prejudice and inform the user not to engage in such theatrics again.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:06, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. To be clear, there is no user to warn or revert. I'd have linked to the article, otherwise. Just something I was wondering. But yeah, if I come across it, I'll remember this. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:20, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

If I happened to notice such an acrostic, I would not draw attention to it. I would just find some reason to change one of the constituent words, so as to spoil it. Maproom (talk) 11:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Editor using WP to write an essay on an article talk page

While revising the article Barabbas I noticed that there is a long essay on the article talk page, seemingly irrelevant to any attempt to improve the article, and on examination I see that this is the editor's only contribution to WP, he has worked on this essay, and nothing else, revising it almost every day since August 2012. He doesn't make any effort to put any of this information, whatever it is, I haven't read it, into the article and it doesn't seem to be bothering anyone but that isn't what article talk pages are for. I wondered if I should report it to someone, but I wouldn't know who to report it to, and then I wondered if that would be mean because he seems to be happy writing this essay and it doesn't appear to bother anyone, in fact it seems unlikely that anyone pays any attention to it. So I thought I would come here and ask what the help desk thought. Thanks Smeat75 (talk) 21:43, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

To editor Smeat75: I've collapsed the content ({{collapse top}}/{{collapse bottom}}) and left a note. I think that's appropriate for now. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 22:27, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!Smeat75 (talk) 01:11, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

April 13

Where can we get assistance with formatting tables?

Another editor and I are discussing some table formatting at Talk:Names of God in Islam, and I have no idea where to start. We want to add another column but I'm afraid of screwing it up. Is there a noticeboard specific for formatting with Wikimarkup? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:39, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

WP:MOSTABLE and Help:Table. but coding for tables is absolutely non user friendly. the best bet is to create a sandbox page do your testing there. you can always "undo". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:46, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Radical, thank you so much. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:37, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Abandoned Articles

I've done a reasonable search for the answer to this question, but I seem to have either missed it, or one doesn't exist. Upon taking a look at a particular article, it seems to me some work is needed. In general, better organization and more detail could be added to make the article better. It also may contain information that should probably not be included or at least modified to more accurately reflect facts.

I would like to consult with the person who administers the page, but I don't see that contact reflected anywhere.

The article just seems to be abandoned.

Any suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JR Valdes (talk • contribs) 04:03, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

There isn't an individual "person who administers the page"; the editors who have previously contributed to the page are listed on the article's "View history" tab. If you have proposed changes, you can make them yourself, ensuring that you provide a meaningful edit summary and that you support any new material with references to published reliable sources. If you are not confident in doing that, you can make suggestions at the article's talk page, again providing supporting information to justify your suggestions. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:34, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Since David provided links for everything else except to explain what a talk page is, it's at WP:TALKPAGE.  :) And also, if you told us the name of the article, those of us who patrol this help desk could take a quick look at it and make at least some basic edits to clean up the more glaring errors. Dismas| 12:32, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Reproducing a French Misplaced Pages diagram

Anyone know of a way, short of importing fr:Modèle:Encadré (which does not appear to have a direct English equivalent), to reproduce the diagram seen at fr:Sitta przewalskii#Taxinomie? I thought {{Clade}} might be a way but I don't see how to use it to get the same result.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:58, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

{{Clade}} does something like the diagram in the French article. But

1. It has the branches going upwards and downwards, rather than horizontally and downwards (personally, I prefer this).
2. It is annoyingly hard to use – though a cladogram with only four leaves should not be too hard. I once started using it, and gave up a fraction of the way through, my results are here.

Maproom (talk) 06:06, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

To editor Fuhghettaboutit: I think this is right based on the code on the French Misplaced Pages article and a non-expert reading of the abstract of the reference.

Anon126 (talk - contribs) 06:39, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

creating a new page

how to create a new wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avinashdeos (talk • contribs) 05:02, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

You need to read WP:Your first article, and TRPoD had added some other useful links to your user talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

OBJECTION FOR PUTTING US IN SHUDRA VARNA

I just want to notify you about your article regarding kushwaha community In classification part of your wikipedia page you have written that we come under shudra varna.But on the articles present on net and also on govt of india website http://www.ncbc.nic.in/Home.aspx go to CENTRAL LIST OF OBC'S .We are under OTHER BACKWARD CLASSES But the people who come under Shudra varna are schedule tribes and schedule castes refer to govt of india website http://ncsc.nic.in/. Now as it is written that we are shudra in wikipedia now we can use this claim and put a public interest litigation in SUPREME COURT OF INDIA to consider us as SCHEDULE TRIBES and we should get the benefits of reservation in schedule tribes.Thanking you and requesting you to do some HOME WORK while putting things on INTERNET as it is being viewed by billion's of people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.62.97.37 (talk) 07:50, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but errors are to be expected on Misplaced Pages, as a community-maintained encyclopedia. But anyway, you can go ahead and fix the problem yourself. Sorry for the mistake, and thanks for your contribution to Misplaced Pages. Zhaofeng Li 08:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd advise consulting WT:WikiProject India about this, castes can often be a highly contentious topic. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:23, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I doubt very much that you have any hope of succeeding in litigation based on information found in Misplaced Pages. We do not even treat our articles as being reliable sources ourselves. Our articles are not any kind of official document in any country, including India. By the way, I think it is astonishing that people can be classified as "other backward classes" in the modern world. SpinningSpark 12:07, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

"Other Backward Classes" is actually formal government classification. the movement which brought "hadicapable" to the US has not yet gained a foothold in India. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:20, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

wikipedia not finding subject

I am having trouble searching for Allesandro del Piero. The search engine doesn't list him as a result. I managed to find him by accessing the Juventus site however. I thought there may be a glitch. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.28.106.70 (talk) 08:53, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Try Alessandro Del Piero. Cheers. Melbourne3163 (talk) 08:58, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

A redirect from Alessandro del Piero to Alessandro Del Piero has existed since 2005, so I don't understand how the search could have failed. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:20, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

It's just a spelling error; original query spelt Alessandro as Allesandro. Melbourne3163 (talk) 09:27, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Special:Search/Allesandro del Piero starts with big colored letters saying "Did you mean: alessandro del piero". It correctly guessed what the poster wanted and gave a helpful message with a new search link leading directly to the article, but the poster apparently overlooked or ignored it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:32, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

How to get listed on Misplaced Pages?

Hello, My name is Sagar Patil. I am a Freelance Music Composer. I want to inquire about how to get myself listed on wikipedia?

Waiting for the comments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slykesagar (talk • contribs) 13:44, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

No one gets "listed" on Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia of topics that meet our WP:Notability guidelines. If you are notable according to the guidelines then an article can be written about you. You should not write that article because you have a conflict of interest, see WP:Plain and simple conflict of interest for information. You can request an article be written at WP:Requested articles. GB fan 14:22, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

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