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	the history section is laughable, as is the structure of the article only focused on the main 3 religions as if they were sorted out of nowhere. the history section should address the similitude between ancient religions and the abrahamic ones, the way the bible was written as the new testament and the quran. Sorry you don't like the idea it has been written by men, but as far as we know, it has.] (]) 08:36, 16 April 2014 (UTC)		the history section is laughable, as is the structure of the article only focused on the main 3 religions as if they were sorted out of nowhere. the history section should address the similitude between ancient religions and the abrahamic ones, the way the bible was written as the new testament and the quran. Sorry you don't like the idea it has been written by men, but as far as we know, it has.] (]) 08:36, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

			== inconsistent editing ==

			I'ld like to note this edit which is inconsistent with Islam90 trying to introduce Babism as Abrahamic with such edits as where he makes precisely the inverse change - aside from using an unreliable source to try to make the point. A lot of work was done by me to include minority Abrahamic religions but I never saw any reliable source refer to Babism as Abrahamic. --] (]) 23:17, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

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Reversion by Saddhiyama

Please check the[REDACTED] article Jerusalem where this text is used. According to the Biblical tradition, King David established the city as the capital of the united Kingdom of Israel and his son, King Solomon, commissioned the building of the First Temple. This is much more accurate, and I do not understand why it would not be used at Abrahamic religions as well. The correct name is the United Kingdom, not just the word Israel. Israel was only one of the two kingdoms that united. Please discuss before any reversion. 81.159.119.25 (talk) 20:18, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Jerusalem and Judaism

Why is this section relevant? It has been majority Jewish since about 1852 and continues through today. I propose to remove it. Numbers have nothing to do with the city's importance to Jews, or other faiths.81.129.210.209 (talk) 22:01, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Not seeing the issue. Jerusalem is clearly a topic for the article and the content reflects the religions on it, not just one. --Smkolins (talk) 10:27, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Diversity within the major Abrahamic religions

Most of the Abrahamic religions considered here, in addition to differing from each other, are internally quite diverse, including for example non-Trinitarian Christian religions like Mormonism and Christian Science, and the Sunni and Shia in Islam. Differences in theology, dietary customs, etc. within the branches, especially of Christianity and Islam, need to be discussed in greater detail.CharlesHBennett (talk) 13:46, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps - greater detail than what? Is there a limit to the detail? I think the "line" would be where the discussion between the religions falls into too much discussion of diversity within the religions - that is what other articles are for. So for example Mormonism is a hot topic inside Christianity, but from the perspective of an Abrahamic grouping it's clearly not Judaism, not Islam, not the Baha'i Faith, not any of the small religions way at the bottom. Similarly for Sunni and Shia - there is no way to mistake either for Judaism or Christianity or the Baha'i Faith and so on. From a pov of the sources discussing abrahamic grouping I don't see a lot of diversity represented. An acknowledgement of it I can see - but not an extended discussion of individualized practices compared and contrasted, for example. This article should be focused at the levels of issues across the religions. --Smkolins (talk) 10:20, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Agree, plus more so. Well put. To those raised outside of the the West's three dominate Abrahamic religions, they seem like different sects of the same religion, ...like three peas in a pod. Likewise I think that many of us raised within that culture are unaware of how strikingly similar the three Abrahamic religions actually are within a global context. I added a paragraph on "some unusual but similar and unifying characteristics when compared to the major non-Abrahamic religions."
But because I believe more people from the Abrahamic mind set will be reading here, these (invisible!? under-valued?) important similarities need to be expanded. ...Because fish cannot see the water. Indeed "similarities" is inferred in the subject title, but are largely absent, —other than hinting at common (seemingly unimportant!?) origins.
--71.133.254.31 (talk) 02:32, 29 March 2014 (UTC)Doug Bashford

Addendum: quoting myself: "unaware of how strikingly similar the three Abrahamic religions..."
put another way is: unaware of how strikingly different the three Abrahamic religions are from the rest of the religions. Many people (including myself) have erroneously focused on some obvious similarities such as murder prohibition..., to the exclusion of the rest...such as Man's place and relationships in the universe and the related existential relationships: —is Man slave or king or, —noble or sinner or..., —of God or of Nature or of..., —is God... —is Nature... —is Mind & Intellect.... Afterlife? ??
--71.133.254.31 (talk) 14:33, 29 March 2014 (UTC)Doug Bashford

History

the history section is laughable, as is the structure of the article only focused on the main 3 religions as if they were sorted out of nowhere. the history section should address the similitude between ancient religions and the abrahamic ones, the way the bible was written as the new testament and the quran. Sorry you don't like the idea it has been written by men, but as far as we know, it has.Klinfran (talk) 08:36, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

inconsistent editing

I'ld like to note this edit which is inconsistent with Islam90 trying to introduce Babism as Abrahamic with such edits as where he makes precisely the inverse change - aside from using an unreliable source to try to make the point. A lot of work was done by me to include minority Abrahamic religions but I never saw any reliable source refer to Babism as Abrahamic. --Smkolins (talk) 23:17, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

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